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== Origin ==
The Whitney family originated with a man named Turstin who came to England with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_I_of_England William the Conqueror] in 1066 and who probably fought in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hastings Battle of Hastings]. He was called 'Turstin Flandrensis' (Turstin of Flanders, Turstin the Fleming) probably because he came from the area known as [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_of_Flanders Flanders]. At some point he was given land near [[Wigmore]] Castle and was thereafter known as 'Turstin de Wigemore'. Turstin and his wife Agnes had a son Eustace, and Eustace inherited the manor of Pencombe from his mother. Note that the nearby region called Whitney was still at this time ungranted wild land. Sometime in the several unknown generations between Eustace of Pencombe and his descendant Robert de Whitney, probably about 1190, a man was granted the region called Whitney and a castle was built. The family then became known as 'de Whitney' (of Whitney), and the Whitney surname was born.{{ref|1}}

== Primary Male Lineage ==
Note: The generations of this family prior to James Whitney are currently being analyzed. For more information, see [[The Ancestry of James Whitney of Whitney]].

* [[Family:Turstin (s1045-a1086)|Turstin (s1045-a1086)]] "the Fleming", "de Wigemore", of Wigmore and Pencombe, m. Agnes, daughter of [[Family:Alfred of Marlborough (s1020-?)|Alfred of Marlborough (s1020-?)]]
* [[Family:Eustace (s1075-a1100)|Eustace (s1075-a1100)]] of Pencombe
* four to six generations, names have not survived.{{ref|2}} Due to the fact that later Whitney coats of arms contain a cross, it is thought probable that members in these generations may have participated in the 1st Crusade (1095-99), the 2nd Crusade (1145-48), or the 3rd Crusade (1189-1192).
* [[Family:Whitney, Robert de (b1210-a1242)|Sir Robert de Whitney (b1224-a1242)]] of Whitney
* [[Family:Whitney, Eustace de (b1256-a1301)|Sir Eustace de Whitney (b1256-a1301)]] of Whitney
* [[Family:Whitney, Eustace de (c1287-c1352)|Sir Eustace de Whitney (c1287-c1352)]] of Whitney, m. (1) Elizabeth de Freville, prob. m. (2) Isabella Gryseley
* [[Family:Whitney, Robert de (1318-c1380)|Sir Robert de Whitney (1318-c1380)]] of Whitney
* [[Family:Whitney, Robert (1348-1402)|Sir Robert Whitney (1348-1402)]] of Whitney, m. Janet Trussell & Maud Cromwell
* [[Family:Whitney, Robert (c1379-1441)|Sir Robert Whitney (c1379-1441)]] of Whitney & Clifford, m. Wenllian Oldcastle
* [[Family:Whitney, Eustace (c1411-c1468)|Sir Eustace Whitney (1410-c1468)]] of Whitney & Clifford, m. Jennet Russell & Jane Clifford
* [[Family:Whitney, Robert (c1436-1494)|Robert Whitney (c1436-a1492)]] of Whitney, m. Constance Touchet & Alice Vaughn
* [[Family:Whitney, James (s1466-1500)|James Whitney (s1466-1500)]] of Whitney & Icombe, m. Blanche Milbourne
* [[Family:Whitney, Robert (s1491-1541)|Robert Whitney (s1491-1541)]] of Icombe, m. Margaret Wye
* [[Family:Whitney, Robert (s1525-1567)|Sir Robert Whitney (s1517-1567)]] of Icombe & Whitney, m. (1) Sybil Baskerville, m. (2) Mary (Berkeley) (Perrot) Jones
* [[Family:Whitney, Eustace (s1545-1608)|Eustace Whitney (s1545-1608)]] of Whitney, m. Margaret Vaughan
* [[Family:Whitney, Robert (1592-1653)|Sir Robert Whitney (1592-1653)]] of Whitney, m. Anne Lucy
* [[Family:Whitney, Thomas (1622-1670)|Sir Thomas Whitney (1622-1670)]], the last Whitney of Whitney, m. Elizabeth Cope

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== Related Branches ==
* [[Whitneys of Clifford]] - This branch originated with [[Family:Whitney, John (b1450-?)|John Whitney (s1475-?)]], probably the second son of [[Family:Whitney, Robert (c1436-1494)|Robert Whitney of Whitney (c1436-a1473)]].
* [[Whitneys of Castleton]] - This branch originated with [[Family:Whitney, Robert (s1470-?)|Robert Whitney (s1470-?)]], perhaps the son of [[Family:Whitney, Robert (c1436-1494)|Robert Whitney of Whitney (c1436-a1473)]].
* Whitneys of Clyro - This branch probably originated with [[Family:Whitney, Watkin (s1495-?)|Watkin Whitney (s1495-?)]] who married the daughter and heiress of Jenkin Reese of Clyro.

== Primary Holdings ==
* Early holdings of the ancestors of the Whitneys can be found in the [[Archive:Domesday Book|Domesday Book]].
* [[Wigmore]] - Turstin held land at Wigmore, but not the castle.
* Lingen - Turstin held the Manor at Lingen.
* Cowarne & Pencomb - Agnes, wife of [[Family:Turstin (s1045-a1086)|Turstinus Flandrensis]] was listed as holding "Cuure" (Cowarne) in the Domesday Book in 1086. Pencombe was most likely included.
* [[Whitney Castle|Whitney]], presumably granted to the family sometime perhaps about 1190.
* [[Clifford Castle|Clifford]]
:* Granted to [[Family:Whitney, Robert (c1379-1441)|Robert Whitney]] in 1404.
:* Inherited by [[Family:Whitney, Eustace (s1497-?)|Eustace Whitney]], of Gorsington, Esq., and his heirs from his wife -----, the daughter and heir of William Vaughan, the tyrant of Clifford.
* Icomb, came into the family when [[Family:Whitney, James (s1466-1500)|James Whitney]] married co-heiress Blanche Milbourne say 1490.
** [http://www.glos.ac.uk/bgas/tbgas/v007/bg007172.pdf Icomb Place]
** [http://viewfinder.english-heritage.org.uk/search/easy_results.asp?index=10165&main_query=&theme=&period=&county=&district=&place_name= Photographs of Icomb]

== Resources ==
* [[Archive:Whitney and Clifford Manuscript Index|Index of records of the manors of Whitney and Clifford, Herefordshire]]
* [[Parish Church, Whitney-on-the-Wye, Herefordshire, England|Photograph of the parish church of Whitney]]

== References ==
1.{{note|1}} [[Archive:The Ancestry of John Whitney, Chapter I|Melville, Henry, A.M., LL.B., ''The Ancestry of John Whitney: Who, with His Wife Elinor, and Sons John, Richard, Nathaniel, Thomas, and Jonathan, Emigrated from London, England, in the Year 1635, and Settled in Watertown, Massachusetts; the First of the Name in America, and the One from Whom a Great Majority of the Whitneys Now Living in the United States Are Descended'' (New York, NY: The De Vinne Press, 1896)]], pp. 13-30.

2.{{note|2}} "There is a pedigree of the early Lords of Whitney, tracing their descent for five or six generations through a line of Welshmen with unpronounceable names, one of whom, Sir Piedge Exrog, was a 'Knight of ye Round Table. To King Arthyrs time he lived att his Castle at Coedmore in Cardiganshire.' This is to be found in a manuscript book of pedigrees called [[Archive:Golden Grove|''The Golden Grove'']], belonging to the Earl of Cawdor and now (1875) in the custody of the Public Record office, Chancery Lane. It was compiled, about 1703, by Owen Thomas, Deputy Assistant to Garter King-at-Arms, from papers and correspondence furnished by living representatives. This pedigree is obviously mythical for many generations." [[Archive:The First Known Use of Whitney as a Surname|Henry Austin Whitney, ''The First Known Use of Whitney as a Surname: Its Probable Signification, and Other Data'' (Boston, MA: Henry Austin Whitney, 1875)]], p. viii. The first 22 generations of that pedigree have been incorporated by Stephen Whitney Phoenix into the purported ancestry of [[Family:Whitney, Henry (s1615-1673)|Henry<sup>1</sup> Whitney]]. See [[Archive:The Whitney Family of Connecticut, page xxiii|''The Whitney Family of Connecticut, and its affiliations; being an attempt to trace the descendants, as well in the female as the male lines, of Henry Whitney, from 1649 to 1878; to which is prefixed some account of the Whitneys of England'']], p. xxiii. Since some of the generations on that chart are mythical, and others were fabricated, just which parts of that pedigree have historical basis is arguable.

    An alternative pedigree may be found in the visitations of Herefordshire taken in 1569 and 1586. See [[Archive:The Ancestry of John Whitney, Appendixes|Melville, ''op. cit.'']], pp. 264, 268, 270. Once again, which parts of that pedigree have historical basis is arguable.

[[Category: Medieval]]
[[Category: England]]
[[Category: Herefordshire, England]]
[[Category: Whitney, Herefordshire, England]]
[[Category: Whitneys of Whitney]]

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Whitneys of Whitney

2008-07-13T00:52:28Z

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== Origin ==
The Whitney family originated with a man named Turstin who came to England with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_I_of_England William the Conqueror] in 1066 and who probably fought in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hastings Battle of Hastings]. He was called 'Turstin Flandrensis' (Turstin of Flanders, Turstin the Fleming) probably because he came from the area known as [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_of_Flanders Flanders]. At some point he was given land near [[Wigmore]] Castle and was thereafter known as 'Turstin de Wigemore'. Turstin and his wife Agnes had a son Eustace, and Eustace inherited the manor of Pencombe from his mother. Note that the nearby region called Whitney was still at this time ungranted wild land. Sometime in the several unknown generations between Eustace of Pencombe and his descendant Robert de Whitney, probably about 1190, a man was granted the region called Whitney and a castle was built. The family then became known as 'de Whitney' (of Whitney), and the Whitney surname was born.{{ref|1}}

== Primary Male Lineage ==
Note: The generations of this family prior to James Whitney are currently being analyzed. For more information, see [[The Ancestry of James Whitney of Whitney]].

* [[Family:Turstin (s1045-a1086)|Turstin (s1045-a1086)]] "the Fleming", "de Wigemore", of Wigmore and Pencombe, m. Agnes, daughter of [[Family:Alfred of Marlborough (s1020-?)|Alfred of Marlborough (s1020-?)]]
* [[Family:Eustace (s1075-a1100)|Eustace (s1075-a1100)]] of Pencombe
* four to six generations, names have not survived.{{ref|2}} Due to the fact that later Whitney coats of arms contain a cross, it is thought probable that members in these generations may have participated in the 1st Crusade (1095-99), the 2nd Crusade (1145-48), or the 3rd Crusade (1189-1192).
* [[Family:Whitney, Robert de (b1210-a1242)|Sir Robert de Whitney (b1224-a1242)]] of Whitney
* [[Family:Whitney, Eustace de (b1256-a1301)|Sir Eustace de Whitney (b1256-a1301)]] of Whitney
* [[Family:Whitney, Eustace de (c1287-c1352)|Sir Eustace de Whitney (c1287-c1352)]] of Whitney, m. (1) Elizabeth de Freville, prob. m. (2) Isabella Gryseley
* [[Family:Whitney, Robert de (1318-c1380)|Sir Robert de Whitney (1318-c1380)]] of Whitney
* [[Family:Whitney, Robert (1348-1402)|Sir Robert Whitney (1348-1402)]] of Whitney, m. Janet Trussell & Maud Cromwell
* [[Family:Whitney, Robert (c1379-1441)|Sir Robert Whitney (c1379-1441)]] of Whitney & Clifford, m. Wenllian Oldcastle
* [[Family:Whitney, Eustace (c1411-c1468)|Sir Eustace Whitney (1410-c1468)]] of Whitney & Clifford, m. Jennet Russell & Jane Clifford
* [[Family:Whitney, Robert (c1436-1494)|Robert Whitney (c1436-a1492)]] of Whitney, m. Constance Touchet & Alice Vaughn
* [[Family:Whitney, James (s1466-1500)|James Whitney (s1466-1500)]] of Whitney & Icombe, m. Blanche Milbourne
* [[Family:Whitney, Robert (s1491-1541)|Robert Whitney (s1491-1541)]] of Icombe, m. Margaret Wye
* [[Family:Whitney, Robert (s1525-1567)|Sir Robert Whitney (s1517-1567)]] of Icombe & Whitney, m. (1) Sybil Baskerville, m. (2) Mary (Berkeley) (Perrot) Jones
* [[Family:Whitney, Eustace (s1545-1608)|Eustace Whitney (s1545-1608)]] of Whitney, m. Margaret Vaughan
* [[Family:Whitney, Robert (1592-1653)|Sir Robert Whitney (1592-1653)]] of Whitney, m. Anne Lucy
* [[Family:Whitney, Thomas (1622-1670)|Sir Thomas Whitney (1622-1670)]], the last Whitney of Whitney, m. Elizabeth Cope

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== Related Branches ==
* [[Whitneys of Clifford]] - This branch originated with [[Family:Whitney, John (b1450-?)|John Whitney (s1475-?)]], probably the second son of [[Family:Whitney, Robert (c1436-1494)|Robert Whitney of Whitney (c1436-a1473)]].
* [[Whitneys of Castleton]] - This branch originated with [[Family:Whitney, Robert (s1470-?)|Robert Whitney (s1470-?)]], perhaps the son of [[Family:Whitney, Robert (c1436-1494)|Robert Whitney of Whitney (c1436-a1473)]].
* Whitneys of Clyro - This branch probably originated with [[Family:Whitney, Watkin (s1495-?)|Watkin Whitney (s1495-?)]] who married the daughter and heiress of Jenkin Reese of Clyro.

== Primary Holdings ==
* Early holdings of the ancestors of the Whitneys can be found in the [[Archive:Domesday Book|Domesday Book]].
* [[Wigmore]] - Turstin held land at Wigmore, but not the castle.
* Lingen - Turstin held the Manor at Lingen.
* Cowarne & Pencomb - Agnes, wife of [[Family:Turstin (s1045-a1086)|Turstinus Flandrensis]] was listed as holding "Cuure" (Cowarne) in the Domesday Book in 1086. Pencombe was most likely included.
* [[Whitney Castle|Whitney]], presumably granted to the family sometime perhaps about 1190.
* [[Clifford Castle|Clifford]]
:* Granted to [[Family:Whitney, Robert (c1379-1441)|Robert Whitney]] in 1404.
:* Inherited by [[Family:Whitney, Eustace (s1497-?)|Eustace Whitney]], of Gorsington, Esq., and his heirs from his wife -----, the daughter and heir of William Vaughan, the tyrant of Clifford.
* Icomb, came into the family when [[Family:Whitney, James (s1466-1500)|James Whitney]] married co-heiress Blanche Milbourne say 1490.
** [http://www.glos.ac.uk/bgas/tbgas/v007/bg007172.pdf Icomb Place]
** [http://viewfinder.english-heritage.org.uk/search/easy_results.asp?index=10165&main_query=&theme=&period=&county=&district=&place_name= Photographs of Icomb]

== Resources ==
* [[Archive:Whitney and Clifford Manuscript Index|Index of records of the manors of Whitney and Clifford, Herefordshire]]
* [[Parish Church, Whitney-on-the-Wye, Herefordshire, England|Photograph of the parish church of Whitney]]

== References ==
1.{{note|1}} [[Archive:The Ancestry of John Whitney, Chapter I|Melville, Henry, A.M., LL.B., ''The Ancestry of John Whitney: Who, with His Wife Elinor, and Sons John, Richard, Nathaniel, Thomas, and Jonathan, Emigrated from London, England, in the Year 1635, and Settled in Watertown, Massachusetts; the First of the Name in America, and the One from Whom a Great Majority of the Whitneys Now Living in the United States Are Descended'' (New York, NY: The De Vinne Press, 1896)]], pp. 13-30.

2.{{note|2}} "There is a pedigree of the early Lords of Whitney, tracing their descent for five or six generations through a line of Welshmen with unpronounceable names, one of whom, Sir Piedge Exrog, was a 'Knight of ye Round Table. To King Arthyrs time he lived att his Castle at Coedmore in Cardiganshire.' This is to be found in a manuscript book of pedigrees called [[Archive:Golden Grove|''The Golden Grove'']], belonging to the Earl of Cawdor and now (1875) in the custody of the Public Record office, Chancery Lane. It was compiled, about 1703, by Owen Thomas, Deputy Assistant to Garter King-at-Arms, from papers and correspondence furnished by living representatives. This pedigree is obviously mythical for many generations." [[Archive:The First Known Use of Whitney as a Surname|Henry Austin Whitney, ''The First Known Use of Whitney as a Surname: Its Probable Signification, and Other Data'' (Boston, MA: Henry Austin Whitney, 1875)]], p. viii. The first 22 generations of that pedigree have been incorporated by Stephen Whitney Phoenix into the purported ancestry of [[Family:Whitney, Henry (s1615-1673)|Henry<sup>1</sup> Whitney]]. See [[Archive:The Whitney Family of Connecticut, page xxiii|''The Whitney Family of Connecticut, and its affiliations; being an attempt to trace the descendants, as well in the female as the male lines, of Henry Whitney, from 1649 to 1878; to which is prefixed some account of the Whitneys of England'']], p. xxiii. Since some of the generations on that chart are mythical, and others were fabricated, just which parts of that pedigree have historical basis is arguable.

    An alternative pedigree may be found in the visitations of Herefordshire taken in 1569 and 1586. See [[Archive:The Ancestry of John Whitney, Appendixes|Melville, ''op. cit.'']], pp. 264, 268, 270. Once again, which parts of that pedigree have historical basis is arguable.

[[Category: Medieval]]
[[Category: England]]
[[Category: Herefordshire, England]]
[[Category: Whitney, Herefordshire, England]]
[[Category: Whitneys of Whitney]]

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