Mailing List:2003-06-12 07, Re: WRG 2004 Data Gathering - QuickBase Invitation, by Timothy F. Whitney

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From: "Timothy F. Whitney" <tfwhitney.data-brain -at- erols.com> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] WRG 2004 Data Gathering - QuickBase Invitation Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 10:40:41 -0400 References: <VPOP31.4.3.20030611062928.898.d627.1.986e992e@quickbase.intuit.com> <003901c330ea$cb2cd7a0$661fe943@stegosaur> Hi, I am the manager/owner/administrator of the database I created on Quickbase and I also generated the invitation. 1st, I pay out of my own pocket for this service as I also use it for my Class Reunion databases. I don't believe $15/month or $180/year is a giveaway or subsidized price. I don't get popup banners and I have not seen any SPAM associated with my use of Quickbase. 2nd, I have used this Intuit service for over 2 years and have not heard of anyone having the type of problems/issues you mentioned. The only concern I have currently with the new database I created is that I had to open it to the Public - as I do not have specific email addresses for individual invitations. 3rd, I have not intentions of selling this data or keeping it after it has been collected and provided to the three volunteers trying to plan the 2004 Reunion. 4th, I believe two invitations were sent, one more general or automated by the Quickbase site and the other with more specific text that I added. Yes, Quickbase does invite folks to create a Username. However I have not seen any other "selling" tactic used by them. Last, I have no idea how large the WRG is and only wanted to help get the 2004 Reunion in the DC area going as I was not able to attend last year's Reunion. Anything one does on the WWW is subject to the issues you raised - including simple email. If you believe Quickbase is guilty of any of the issues you mentioned - please perform some research and provide me with facts and I will get them addressed by Intuit - ASAP. In closing, I am not nor do I ever intend to be a "commercial interloper" attempting to facilitate communications between WRG members. I am simply using a tool to help WRG members voice their preferences in a way that will help us all have a wonderful Reunion in 2004. In advance, if my attempt to help get the 2004 Reunion off the ground has offended you - I apologize - as this was certainly not my intention. Regards, Tim Whitney 540-349-1027 White Dove wrote: >Personally, I would not go anywhere near that 'database', and least of >all visit the website hosting it. I have been involved with computers for >over 20 years and know that a website does not have to overtly ask >for information from an internet visitor in order to collect information >that >can be of great value to telemarketers. > >Seeing as we are all genealogists here, and ply our avocation with the use >of computers; it is reasonable to suppose that we keep data valuable to >genealogy publishing houses on our machines as well. No security program >that I know of will prevent all prying by websites that we visit; rather >they >are more concerned with unsolicited digital material. If we go anywhere, >we are asking for not only whatever that site can give to us, but also for >whatever that site can take away; with windows the playing field is not >level, and we have neither the skill nor the means to prevent it. > >A database site is in the business of collecting data. They sell this data. >If >one gives a 'free' or 'very cheap' service that is obviousely below cost, >then >someone somewhere is paying. There is no free lunch, and data mined by >an XML program or 'Flash 6' or HTML or a '.cgi' routine could be resold to >anywhere with no guarantees. We will not have our personal web address >book, personal checking or credit accounts and numbers and PIN numbers >as well as our GEDcom files and '.FTW' files mined out serrepititiousely by >such a site. We have personally seen some of our data wind up on commercial >copyrighted CD's from 'for profit' companies that we had not given them. >They literally stole our data from third parties and then copyrighted our >own families! > >We are not such a large group that we would need commercial interlopers to >facilitate talking to each other. The first reunion had no need of such. >The only >reason that one would even want such a 'service' in the first place would >logically be if there were an extremely small group of organizers, maybe >only >one person. This reunion has to be about more than one. > >Notice the letter is also a solicitation for business for this company and >was >generated by the company. For that reason we are not signing this letter, >and 'white dove' is in the public domain. > > > > > > > ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ##### ##### ##### ################################################################# ################################################################# #################################################################


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