Mailing List:2006-09-20 05, Re: Whitney DNA Study - Overview, Status, Analysis,and Next Steps, by William G. Whitney

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From: Bill Whitney <w.whitney -at- sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Whitney DNA Study - Overview, Status, Analysis,and Next Steps Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 14:33:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: <003501c6dae9$8b55d0d0$0200a8c0@whitney> Hello; I am the Bill Whitney in Ontario mentioned in Stu Whitney's DNA message. My line is Henry 1, John 2, Nathan 3, Eliasaph 4, Sylvanus 5, Henry Platt 6, Sivanus 7, George Washington 8, Sylvanus Victor 9, Irving Forsythe 10, William George 10. I am William George and took the DNA test some time ago. The third Henry line Whitney is Joe Whitney who resides in Toronto. Sylvanus 5 was a Loyalist that left Connecticut in 1783 and settled in what is now Saint John, New Brunswick. All the above Whitneys were/are Canadians. I have just returned from New Brunswick and believe I have convinced a Whitney line in Miramichi to take the DNA test in hopes of settling the ancestry of Ebenezer Whitney, one of the original settlers of that area. Bill Whitney in Woodbridge, Ontario On 9/18/06 2:13 AM, "Stu Whitney" <stuwhitney -at- shaw.ca> wrote: > Hello Tim: > Here is my lineage: Henry (1), John (2), Nathaniel (3), Eliakim (4), John > (5), Peter (6), John (7), George (8), Stuart (9) I was also given the name > Harvey, but I hardly ever use it. > > I am aware of Bill Whitney in Ontario Canada as being another Henry, and > that he and I branched off in (4) he with Eliasaph (4) and me with Eliakim > (4). Who is the third Henry? > > I think there is another Henry here in the area where I live. I have not met > him yet but it looks like he is (12) and branched off from me with Eliakim > (6). If I can contact him I may try to persuade him to join the DNA Project. > However, I must say that I have a bit of difficulty with the notion of > meeting a total stranger and then suggesting to him that he might like to > spend a couple of hundred dollars for this project. > > I know we cannot expect to have the DNA testing free but I rather suspect > that there would be a whole lot more people being tested if it was more > affordable. In this connection has any thought been given to asking people > to contribute money to a fund to be used for specific tests that the project > would really benefit from. I see that you have made an overture in this > direction but I am thinking or a more direct appeal telling why the fund is > needed and suggesting contributions in the order of $25.00 or so. We have a > large number of people in our group , many of whom are interested in the DNA > Project. If even a small proportion of them donated a small amount we would > have a sizable pool of money. > > I would never have had my DNA tested without some financial help from > Whitney Keen, and much as I would like to see it upgraded and expanded I > cannot afford to have that done. I could afford up to $50.00 canadian. So I > feel strongly that we should appeal to the whole Whitney 'Family' for > financial help for this project. > > Best wishes with the analyses > > H.S. (Stu) Whitney, > Sooke, BC, Canada > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Doyle" <tim -at- greenscourt.com> > To: <WHITNEY-L -at- rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 4:17 PM > Subject: [WHITNEY] Whitney DNA Study - Overview, Status, Analysis,and Next > Steps > > >> Whitney DNA Study Overview: >> -------------------------- >> >> * The Whitney DNA Study is designed to allow us to use science to do >> the following: >> - Determine if the immigrants John, Henry, and Samuel Whitney were >> related. >> - Assist those who haven't been able to connect to determine which >> immigrant they likely descend from. >> - Perhaps allow us to capture differences within branches of John >> Whitney's descendants allowing those who haven't been able to >> connect to determine which branch they likely descend from. >> - Perhaps allow us to determine which Whitney families in England >> the immigrants are related to. >> - Allow study participants to somewhat validate their lineage. >> >> * DNA is collected with a cheek swab - no blood is taken (in case you >> fear needles like I do). >> >> * The study examines information on the Y Chromosome, so the person >> being tested must be male, and must be a direct male descendant of >> a Whitney. >> >> * The study does NOT capture all of your DNA. Only specific areas are >> examined. >> - The test basically looks at "junk DNA" areas that researchers have >> noticed tend to repeat a sequence over and over. The number of >> repeats can sometimes change, so one person might have 17 repeats >> at a given site while other people have 16 or 18 repeats. These >> are the numbers you see in your test results. >> >> * The Whitney DNA Study is being led by Whitney Keen, who is doing an >> excellent job! Thank you Whitney!! >> >> >> Status: >> ------ >> >> * About 35 individuals have taken the DNA test and are participating >> in the Whitney DNA Study. >> - Twenty-six descendants of immigrant John Whitney >> - Three descendants of immigrant Henry Whitney >> - One descendant of immigrant Samuel Whitney >> - and five others >> >> * We have identified standard marker sequences for John Whitney, Henry >> Whitney, and Samuel Whitney. >> - Having these standard values allows us to determine which line >> people most likely descend from. If you haven't connected to an >> immigrant yet, taking the test will allow us to tell you which >> one you most likely descend from. >> >> >> Analysis: >> -------- >> >> Here's what we've learned so far..... >> >> * John Whitney and Henry Whitney were not related. >> >> * John Whitney and Samuel Whitney were not related. >> >> * Henry Whitney and Samuel Whitney were possibly related. We need >> Samuel Whitney's descendant to expand their search results to >> make a more definitive conclusion. >> >> * John, Henry, and Samuel Whitney were all descended from the "R1b >> Haplogroup" >> - The R1B Haplogroup is believed to have been widespread in Europe >> before the last Ice Age, and associated with the Aurignacian >> culture of the Cro-Magnon people, the first modern humans to enter >> Europe. As the ice age intensified and the European continent >> became less inhabitable, this group is believed to have taken >> refuge in present day southern France and northern Spain. As the >> ice age receeded about 12,000 years ago, this group migrated north >> and recolonized Western Europe. >> >> * Several WRG members who have not yet linked themselves back to an >> immigrant ancestor can be shown to be almost certainly descended >> from John Whitney. >> >> * One person who descends from a recent English line has results >> intriguingly similar to John Whitney's line - is this person >> descended from one of John's brothers, uncles, or cousins? >> >> * Four people in the study appear not to be descended from John, >> Henry, or Samuel Whitney. This could be the result of descent >> from a new and less well-known Whitney branch, an unrecorded >> adoption event in the past, or (how can I be politically correct >> here...) a less than faithful wife somewhere along the lineage. >> >> * One person in the study appears not to be descended from John >> or Samuel, but possibly descended from Henry Whitney. >> >> * It appears that Leonard Albert Whitney and Gerald Earl Whitney are >> closely related. Since Gerald has apparently not traced his line >> back to John Whitney yet, he could benefit from reviewing Leonard's >> ancestry. >> >> >> Next Steps: >> ---------- >> >> * We need more descendants of Henry Whitney to join the study. >> >> * We need more descendants of Samuel Whitney to join the study. >> >> * We need the participant who descends from Samuel Whitney to >> expand his test from 12 markers to as many as possible (37 >> or 67). See below for prices. >> >> * We need all current participants to consider expanding their test >> results. See below for prices. >> >> * We need all current participants to email me your lineage as far >> back as you have it. This will allow us to expand our data >> analysis and be better prepared to assist others. >> >> * We need more people who are from England or whose Whitney ancestors >> came from England more recently than the 3 big immigrants. >> >> >> How to Participate: >> ------------------ >> >> * If you are male and are descended from a Whitney all the way back >> through the male line, please consider joining the project. >> >> * If you are female, or if you descend from a daughter of a Whitney, >> look through your tree to find a male Whitney descendant who can be >> tested instead. >> >> * If you would like to help financially, we have a number of tests >> that we have determined to be high priority for our combined >> understanding of our Whitney lines. Many people cannot afford to do >> these tests, so if you can, please consider helping financially. >> Contact me if you are interested. >> >> * How much does it cost? >> - 12 Marker test (bare minimum): $149 >> - 37 Marker test (better): $259 >> - 67 Marker test (best): $349 >> - 12 Marker to 37 Marker upgrade: $109 >> - 12 Marker to 67 Marker upgrade: $199 >> - 37 Marker to 67 Marker upgrade: $109 >> >> Please feel free to send any questions or comments to me. If you have >> participated in the study, please send me your name (and the name of the >> person who you had tested, if not you) and send me your lineage as far >> back >> as you know it, and I will send you a personal description of your results >> and what they mean. >> >> Thank you! >> >> Tim Doyle >> Whitney Research Group Website Co-Host >> <a href="http://wiki.whitneygen.org">http://wiki.whitneygen.org</a> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WHITNEY-request -at- rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request -at- rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message


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