Mailing List Discussions, May 1997
From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 06:31:36 -0400 (EDT) To: [email protected] cc: <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Jabez Whitney descendants
Hello All,
I looked at the Whitney database just recently and realized that we could add some information - the descendants of Jabez Whitney, whose parents are still unknown. Note that much of this information was graciously given me by Mike Poston.
1-- Jabez WHITNEY (1780-1839)
sp-Abigail Milk WHEELER (1784-1870)
2-- Joseph I. WHITNEY (1806)
2-- Lydia WHITNEY (1806-1860)
sp-Philander CASTLE (1799-1886)
3-- Giles CASTLE (1828)
3-- George W. CASTLE (1830)
3-- Lucinda CASTLE (1832)
sp-Richard POSTON
3-- Rial CASTLE (1834)
3-- Prudence CASTLE (1836-1930)
sp-Charles A. EASUM
3-- Whitney CASTLE (1839-1862)
3-- Anson M. CASTLE (1841)
sp-Elizabeth MEATHERINGHAM
sp-Jennie P. BEAM
3-- William Henry CASTLE (1843-1924)
sp-Mary Elizabeth ADAMS (1851-1877)
3-- Rankin W. CASTLE (1846)
sp-Bell TROGDEN
sp-Abigail HARPER (1804)
2-- Thankful WHITNEY (1809)
sp-John CARTWRIGHT ( -1849)
3-- Mary CARTWRIGHT
sp-Jeremiah POSTON
2-- Lucinda WHITNEY (1810)
2-- Mary WHITNEY (1811)
2-- Ann WHITNEY (1812)
2-- John WHITNEY (1819)
2-- Ebsey WHITNEY (1820)
2-- Miranda WHITNEY (1821)
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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]>
Subject: Jabez Whitney descendants Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 06:31:36 -0400 (EDT) Sender: [email protected]
Hello All,
I looked at the Whitney database just recently and realized that we could add some information - the descendants of Jabez Whitney, whose parents are still unknown. Note that much of this information was graciously given me by Mike Poston.
1-- Jabez WHITNEY (1780-1839)
sp-Abigail Milk WHEELER (1784-1870)
2-- Joseph I. WHITNEY (1806)
2-- Lydia WHITNEY (1806-1860)
sp-Philander CASTLE (1799-1886)
3-- Giles CASTLE (1828)
3-- George W. CASTLE (1830)
3-- Lucinda CASTLE (1832)
sp-Richard POSTON
3-- Rial CASTLE (1834)
3-- Prudence CASTLE (1836-1930)
sp-Charles A. EASUM
3-- Whitney CASTLE (1839-1862)
3-- Anson M. CASTLE (1841)
sp-Elizabeth MEATHERINGHAM
sp-Jennie P. BEAM
3-- William Henry CASTLE (1843-1924)
sp-Mary Elizabeth ADAMS (1851-1877)
3-- Rankin W. CASTLE (1846)
sp-Bell TROGDEN
sp-Abigail HARPER (1804)
2-- Thankful WHITNEY (1809)
sp-John CARTWRIGHT ( -1849)
3-- Mary CARTWRIGHT
sp-Jeremiah POSTON
2-- Lucinda WHITNEY (1810)
2-- Mary WHITNEY (1811)
2-- Ann WHITNEY (1812)
2-- John WHITNEY (1819)
2-- Ebsey WHITNEY (1820)
2-- Miranda WHITNEY (1821)
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From: "J. Michael Poston" <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Jabez Whitney descendants Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 14:14:35 -0400 (EDT) Sender: [email protected]
K. Trouvat provided some of Jabez's descendants. I notice one error:
Philander Castle's first wife was Abigail Harper, born 1804, married in Meigs County, Ohio 18 March 1824. I do not have a death date for Abigail, but Philander married a second time in Meigs County to Lydia Whitney 10 March 1827. The original message showed Abigail as the second spouse of Rankin W. Castle.
In addition, the children of Thankful Whitney and John M. Cartwright were:
i. William (ca 1828), sp. Martha Ann Russell ii. Mary (1832-1886), sp. Jeremiah Poston (1819-1876) iii. Lucy (ca 1834), sp. Lithicum iv. Francis (ca 1837), sp. Mary Long v. Emeline (ca 1840), sp. prob. Abraham Taylor vi. Elsey Ann (ca 1842-1923), sp. William Nelson Carey
Mike Poston Rockville, MD [email protected]
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From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: WHITNEY Lineages of Subscribers to Mailing List Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 09:28:56 -0400 Sender: [email protected]
Dear friends and relatives,
I have updated my web page all the lineages of subscribers to the mailing list [email protected] which I could find in my e-mail. See the following URL:
http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/lineages.html
I hereby solicit additions and corrections. I also would like to get the actual name of [email protected], which I don't have. New lineages would likely best be posted to the mailing list, but send corrections to me personally.
This is a follow-up to an earlier discussion of "Databases".
Regards,
Robert
Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659
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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: ELY WHITNEY Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 15:57:04 -0400 (EDT) Sender: [email protected]
Hi I would like to know if there is anyone on that is a direct or close line to ELY WHITNEY, the inventor???
Thanks Karen
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From: Charles and Carol Marston <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Whitney Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 19:56:38 -0400 Sender: [email protected]
Greetings fellow Whitney researchers.
I have just found some wonderful information on my gggg great
grandfather Xavier Abbott. He was born in or near Danbury, Conn, the son of Ezra Abbott a Rev. War soldier born in Ridgebury, Conn.
The connection to Whitney is that Xavier married Elizabeth Van Ness,
born in Milton Nov. 3, 1784 to John and Marth (Whitney) Van Ness.
This information was reprinted in an article of the Fenton Historical
Society in Chautauqua County New York. The Abbotts lived there, in Busti.
It starts by saying, " Quoting from the Whitney Family of Connecticutt
by S. Whitney Phoenix, 1873, Vol. I, page 324...". I would like to know if any of you are related to this Whitney family and if anyone has a copy of this book. My library cannot find one to interloan.
I would like to know who Martha Whitney Van Ness's parents are. If you
can help me out, please do. I would be more than glad to reciprocate any info from Martha to me. That is 5 or 6 generations.
Xavier and Elizabeth had a son named Whitney Abbott I really need to
find more info about him. He ended up moving to Battle Creek Michigan and left a 15 year old daughter there to marry Rolyn Shepard. However, Since the daughter Rozella lived with her grandparent's in the 1855 census, I have no proof of Whitney being her real father. This is my main focus. I feel that some Whitney researcher has the story somewhere.
Thank you so much for your patience, Carol Marston
Abbott, Ball, Banning, Curl(e), Edgerly, Frazer, Hinkson, Jacobson, Kirby, Marston, Moore, Mulholland, Nowlin, Page, Reavis, Schell, Shafer, Shepard, Shimer, Steele, Swisher, and more, more, more, more, more!
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From: Robert Schadewald <[email protected]> (Robert Schadewald) To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Whitney Date: Thu, 8 May 97 17:33:02 -0500 Sender: [email protected]
Carol Marston posted the appended message regarding *The Whitney Family of Connecticut*. I found a copy of this work advertised on Bibliofind, as follows:
Phoenix,S Whitney: The Whitney Family of Connecticut ; 3 Volumes NY 1878 Privately Printed 3/4 Leather Teg 9x12 Quarto Limited 500c 2000+p total Very Good+ Set US$450.00 Dick Brani.
Contact information for Dick Brani is as follows:
Dick Brani, P O Box 1764, , Culpeper, VA 22701 Tel: 540 825 7413 Email Address: [email protected]
I've bought books from Brani by email, and he seems to be a friendly sort. I recommended that Carol call him and ask him to photocopy the relevant pages. Unless someone from the group would like to buy it for her for Mother's Day...
Bob Schadewald
>Greetings fellow Whitney researchers. > > I have just found some wonderful information on my gggg great >grandfather Xavier Abbott. He was born in or near Danbury, Conn, the son >of Ezra Abbott a Rev. War soldier born in Ridgebury, Conn. > > The connection to Whitney is that Xavier married Elizabeth Van Ness, >born in Milton Nov. 3, 1784 to John and Marth (Whitney) Van Ness. > This information was reprinted in an article of the Fenton Historical >Society in Chautauqua County New York. The Abbotts lived there, in >Busti. > > It starts by saying, " Quoting from the Whitney Family of Connecticutt >by S. Whitney Phoenix, 1873, Vol. I, page 324...". >I would like to know if any of you are related to this Whitney family >and if anyone has a copy of this book. My library cannot find one to >interloan. > I would like to know who Martha Whitney Van Ness's parents are. If you >can help me out, please do. I would be more than glad to reciprocate >any info from Martha to me. That is 5 or 6 generations. > > Xavier and Elizabeth had a son named Whitney Abbott I really need to >find more info about him. He ended up moving to Battle Creek Michigan >and left a 15 year old daughter there to marry Rolyn Shepard. >However, Since the daughter Rozella lived with her grandparent's in the >1855 census, I have no proof of Whitney being her real father. This is >my main focus. I feel that some Whitney researcher has the story >somewhere. > > Thank you so much for your patience, Carol Marston >[email protected] > >Abbott, Ball, Banning, Curl(e), Edgerly, Frazer, Hinkson, Jacobson, >Kirby, Marston, Moore, Mulholland, Nowlin, Page, Reavis, Schell, Shafer, >Shepard, Shimer, Steele, Swisher, and more, more, more, more, more! > >
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From: "david M. Abbey" <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Mail digest Date: 08 May 97 20:27:30 EDT Sender: [email protected]
Does anyone have information on Julia Ann Whitney ( my great-great
grandmother) b oct. 8, 1817 in Seneca Castle, N. Y. , d Mar. 20, 1895, in Watkins, N. Y. and married Tyler Hover Abbey May 12, 1841? She was daughter of Otis and Betsy (Hawley) Whitney.
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
David Abbey
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From: [email protected] (Daniel H. Burrows) To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Whitney Family of CT Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 23:02:58 EDT Sender: [email protected]
Will Carol Marston needing information from the above book contact me directly -- I might be able to help you out. I'll copy 10 cents page + postage.
Reprints were available at one time for $99.00 plus $12.00 P&H at (I
forget who did the reprint) and I bought a the 3 Volume set. Best bargain of the century.
Dan Burrows
[email protected]
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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Phoenix Book Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 03:07:31 -0400 (EDT) Sender: [email protected]
Dear WRG:
With reference to Stephen (sp?) Whitney Phoenix book on the CT Whitney descendants of Henry Whitney, let's not forget that he got gulled by the fraudulent Mrs. De Salis before the printing of this book. He discovered the fraud later, and there have been numerous articles and other exposes written about her fraud. NOTHING prior to Henry is credible, and his birth attribution to Birkhamstead is also not supportable by any documentation - I looked for three days last summer, trying to find his ancestry at the Library of the British Society of Genealogists.
The last I remember, Joan Hicks was the keeper of the database for the CT Whitneys. Perhaps she can assist Ms. Marston in her inquiry beyond what I have included below.
All I can provide is the data from the last distribution of the descendants of Henry.
Martha Whitney Van Ness was the daughter of Jeremiah Whitney, b. 18 Sep 1731, in Ridgefield, CT(?), d. 28 Jul 1855 in Providence, NY; and Eva Youngs (no information)
Jeremiah Whitney was the son (9th child of 11) of Nathan Whitney, born ca 1695, Norwalk CT, d. after 1739, possibly in Ridgefield; and his wife Sarah _____, m. ca 1715.
Nathan Whitney was the son (also 9th child of 11) of John Whitney, b. ca 1642 either in England just prior to his father's departure for America, or soon thereafter, probably in Southold, Long Island. John Whitney d. in 1720 in Norwalk, CT; and his wife was an Elizabeth Smith, b. ca 1650, probably in CT, and died after 1741, again probably in Norwalk, CT. Their marriage took place 17 Mar 1674/5 in Norwalk, CT.
John Whitney was the son of the immigrant ancestor of this line, Henry Whitney (who does NOT appear in the parish register of Berkhampstead St Marys, Hertfordshire, England), b. ca 1620 and his unknown first wife.
This data is taken (I understand but do not know personally) from the Phoenix book, but one or more of the WRG who are from this line should confirm that for you. If you (Carol Marston) need further information about the De Salis fraud, please contact me directly, as it does not need to be aired again on the whole list.
Happy Hunting! Hope AOL and Compuserve both get straightened out so ALL our members get ALL of the postings ALL of the time.
Allan E. Green <[email protected]>
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From: Norm & Geri Smith <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]>
Subject: Tirzah Whitney Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 12:02:04 -0700 Sender: [email protected]
is my (4)Greats Grandmother following Orville, Benjamin Chancey (B.C.), Lee Winslow, Letha, Wanda and me: Norman Smith, 10958 Wildwood, Shelbyville, Michigan, 49344 616 672-7653.
B.C. moved to Allegan County, Watson Twp, Michigan before 1878 as a farmer and was a founder of the Watson Grange and the Watson IOOF.
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From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 18:15:20 -0400 (EDT) To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], <img src="/robertward.gif">, [email protected]
Subject: Re: Maiser Problems and List Functioning
Michael, Jon, Barry, Robert, Peg, Jeanne, Jan, Jerry and all my other old friends:
Maiser was virtually swamped/destroyed by mass mailings from a spammer or spammers that overloaded the system. I got a message on another list, forwarded by the listowner, before the system went down completely, that said that Larry Stephens was shutting it down and didn't know when it would be back up, if ever. I have copied the message below. Since Larry provides the service as a private contribution to the genealogical community, and the University allows him to run it through their interface, the University bears no responsibility to provide the means to protect his system from the spammers other than whatever way they may find to protect all the users of <...indiana.edu>.
If Larry is not able to find a way to protect the Maiser system from spammers, then we may have lost this invaluable service, and have to reconstitute our lists and go back to the way we used to work, with each member trying to keep up with a maillist in his/her own address book, or maybe one of us could manage to operate as a remailer for a short time until it reappears
So, until that service is reinstituted, we cannot send anything out to the whole list, and must address all our WRG communications to known addresses, as I have done above. Here is the copy of the message I received from the listowner of the SWITZERLAND list.
<copied and inserted To all my list subscribers of Switzerland list
Please read below. If you think you have solution, please send it to me so I can forward it to Larry Stephens at his private address. Until then please do NOT attempt to post any message to the Maiser-based lists. Some of you will get repeated message because some of you are on several of my lists. I tried to send a single message to everybody on my lists before the Maiser shut down but apparently didn't make so I am sending to you directly based on review list I have as of April 2, 1997. If you have any subscriber review list that is dated later than April 2, I would appreciate having it so that the missed subscribers get the message. Until you receive message that Maiser is back up running after the spammer is busted and stopped, please do not attempt to post to any Maiser list.
W. David Samuelsen, Listowner
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1st message VERY BAD NEWS FOLKS.
BECAUSE OF A SPAMMER RUNNING REPEATED SPAMS THROUGH HERE I AM FORCED TO SHUT OFF THE MERCURY MAIL SERVER. I DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW IF THIS IS TEMPORARY OR PERMANENT.
IF I CAN I'LL UPDATE YOU. PLEASE HOLD ON FOR A FEW DAYS WHILE I LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS.
2nd message I couldn't tell if this went out or not and I didn't want to leave you all hanging.
The SPAM that has been sent through here has had devastating consequences. I've had to shut off all incoming mail. This may pe PERMANENT!
I'm trying to catch my breath on this before looking at other options. If anyone has suggestions, I'm glad to listen. It may well mean moving everything from here. Even if I can keep regional lists going, I don't think it will be possible to keep individually owned lists on other IU machines.
I'm truly sorry. This place in Georgia has run thousands of spammed messages through here and created enormous problems for us, and that's what has caused this.
My mail has been coming to one of my Mercury servers and they are both shut off. I'm getting it rerouted but that won't take effect for at least a day.
If I can't find a reasonable solution then your only choice will be to move your lists to other places. If it comes to this, I will send you your subscription lists and archived files as fast as I can, but it may take a little time. For now, as I've said, I'm looking at options.
Larry Stephens Indiana University Office of Risk Management Bloomington IN
end copied material>
WRG: Hope this helps you understand what the problem is. At the moment I have no solutions, but lets "we hardy few" who are a lot (but not all) of the core of the WRG try to keep something like communication going by the old method until we get a resolution from Larry and Michael (our own listowner).
Allan
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Date: 11 May 97 19:06:08 EDT From: "david M. Abbey" <[email protected]> To: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Cc: "Jeanne Muse" <[email protected]>, "(unknown)" <[email protected]>,
"Jon Aston" <[email protected]>, "Mary Ann Lindsay" <[email protected]>, "(unknown)" <[email protected]>, "Mike Poston" <[email protected]>, "(unknown)" <[email protected]>, "Michael Whitney" <[email protected]>, "(unknown)" <[email protected]>, "Arvy Whitney" <[email protected]>, "(unknown)" <[email protected]>, "Jan Whitaker" <[email protected]>
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Date: 10 May 97 00:03:11 EDT From: "david M. Abbey" <[email protected]> To: whitney <[email protected]> Subject: whitney
My grandfather listed our Whitney geneology as:
I John and Eleanor Whitney II Benjamin and Jane Whitney III Jonathan and Susan Whitney IV Jonathan and -ydia (Jones) Whitney V Jonathan and Ester (Parkhurst) Whitney VI Nathan and O. Whitney VII Otis and Betsy (Hawley) Whitney VIII Julia Ann Whitney(b Oct. 8, 1817 in Seneca Castle N.Y.;; d. Mar. 20
1895 in Watkins, N.Y.) and Tyler Hovey Abbey mMay 12 1841
Do you know of anyone who would have evidence of this line?
Thank you,
David Abbey
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From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 22:10:53 -0400 (EDT) To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], <img src="/robertward.gif">, [email protected]
Subject: Re: Maiser Problems and List Functioning
Dear Whitneys,
I feel I have been cut off from family and today is Mother's Day.
If there is anything that we as individuals can do to keep the list alive,
please let me know.
Barbara Crowder Black in Sacramento, Ca.
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Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 06:48:50 -0700 From: The Lindsays <[email protected]> To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected]
CC: <img src="/robertward.gif">, [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected]
Subject: [Fwd: [Fwd: Whitney Genealogy]]
The Lindsays wrote: > > Matt Toledo wrote: > > > > Hi Mal- You sound like you have a very nice family! I am just starting > > a genealogy chart for my family. My grandmother's name is Jean Marie > > Whitney. Born: July 20 ???? > > Place: Cincinatti, Oh? > > Died: between 1980-1986? > > Place: Ontario, Ca > > San Bernadino County > > Married:Lewis Francis Barton > > Place: Portland, Or? > > > > This is all the information I have on my grandmother. Do you have any > > suggestions for my search? How do you know if there is a bloodline > > connection? I am really new at this I have no idea where to start. > > Thanks for your help!! > > > > God Bless, > > > > Lisa Toledo > Here's another new one, hope someone can help her out, I will look at my > files also. Thanks, MAL
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From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 17:44:48 -0400 (EDT) To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], <img src="/robertward.gif">, [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Whitney Maillist (i.e., the WRG)
Dear WRG:
This is a copy of a message that I sent to about a dozen people yesterday, and I have since been sent an April 7th listing of the subscribers to the Whitney maillist from one of those folks. Michael Whitney (our listowner) has not yet gotten back to me (he has to do mundane things like working, while my school year is over and I have available time to deal with this stuff), so I made up "lists of addresses" for my AOL address book to send this message to everyone I can reach. If Michael approves, I am volunteering to "remail" any items that any listmember will send me to the rest of the list, at least for a short while (see comments below). I think what we are doing together is so important that I would never want to see it die.
Here, then, is yesterdays message for everyone (the dozen for whom it is a duplication will, I hope, forgive me)
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From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 21:52:11 -0400 (EDT) To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
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Subject: Whitneylist - 2nd try
> Dear WRG: > > This is a copy of a message that I sent to about a dozen people yesterday, > and I have since been sent an April 7th listing of the subscribers to the > Whitney maillist from one of those folks. Michael Whitney (our listowner) > has not yet gotten back to me (he has to do mundane things like working, > while my school year is over and I have available time to deal with this > stuff), so I made up "lists of addresses" for my AOL address book to send > this message to everyone I can reach. If Michael approves, I am volunteering > to "remail" any items that any listmember will send me to the rest of the > list, at least for a short while (see comments below). I think what we are > doing together is so important that I would never want to see it die. > > Here, then, is yesterdays message for everyone (the dozen for whom it is a > duplication will, I hope, forgive me) >
LET ME TRY AGAIN. I've gotten out of the habit of doing this stuff, but the teacher in me say do it over until you get it right, dummy.
> > Maiser was virtually swamped/destroyed by mass mailings from a spammer or > > spammers that overloaded the system. I got a message on another list, > > forwarded by the listowner, before the system went down completely, that said > > that Larry Stephens was shutting it down and didn't know when it would be > > back up, if ever. I have copied the message below. Since Larry provides the > > service as a private contribution to the genealogical community, and the > > University allows him to run it through their interface, the University bears > > no responsibility to provide the means to protect his system from the > > spammers other than whatever way they may find to protect all the users of > > <...indiana.edu>. > > > > If Larry is not able to find a way to protect the Maiser system from > > spammers, then we may have lost this invaluable service, and have to > > reconstitute our lists and go back to the way we used to work, with each > > member trying to keep up with a maillist in his/her own address book, or > > maybe one of us could manage to operate as a remailer for a short time until > > it reappears > > > > So, until that service is reinstituted, we cannot send anything out to the > > whole list, and must address all our WRG communications to known addresses, > > as I have done above. > > Here is the copy of the message I received from the listowner of the > > SWITZERLAND list. > > > > <copied and inserted > > To all my list subscribers of Switzerland list > > > > Please read below. If you think you have solution, please send it to me > > so I can forward it to Larry Stephens at his private address. Until then > > please do NOT attempt to post any message to the Maiser-based lists. > > Some of you will get repeated message because some of you are on several > > of my lists. I tried to send a single message to everybody on my lists > > before the Maiser shut down but apparently didn't make so I am sending > > to you directly based on review list I have as of April 2, 1997. If you > > have any subscriber review list that is dated later than April 2, I > > would appreciate having it so that the missed subscribers get the message. > > Until you receive message that Maiser is back up running after the > > spammer is busted and stopped, please do not attempt to post to any > > Maiser list. > > > > W. David Samuelsen, Listowner > > ================================================= > > 1st message > > VERY BAD NEWS FOLKS. > > > > BECAUSE OF A SPAMMER RUNNING REPEATED SPAMS THROUGH > > HERE I AM FORCED TO SHUT OFF THE MERCURY MAIL SERVER. > > I DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW IF THIS IS TEMPORARY OR PERMANENT. > > > > IF I CAN I'LL UPDATE YOU. PLEASE HOLD ON FOR A FEW DAYS WHILE I > > LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS. > > > > 2nd message [from Larry Stephens] > > I couldn't tell if this went out or not and I didn't want to leave you all hanging. > > > > The SPAM that has been sent through here has had devastating consequences. > > I've had to shut off all incoming mail. This may pe PERMANENT! > > > > I'm trying to catch my breath on this before looking at other options.
If
> > anyone has suggestions, I'm glad to listen. It may well mean moving > > everything from here. Even if I can keep regional lists going, I don't think > > it will be possible to keep individually owned lists on other IU machines. > > > > I'm truly sorry. This place in Georgia has run thousands of spammed messages > > through here and created enormous problems for us, and that's what has caused > > this. > > > > My mail has been coming to one of my Mercury servers and they are both shut > > off. I'm getting it rerouted but that won't take effect for at least a day. > > > > If I can't find a reasonable solution then your only choice will be to move > > your lists to other places. If it comes to this, I will send you your > > subscription lists and archived files as fast as I can, but it may take a > > little time. For now, as I've said, I'm looking at options. > > > > Larry Stephens > > Indiana University Office of Risk Management > > Bloomington IN > > > > end copied material> > > > > WRG: > > Hope this helps you understand what the problem is. At the moment I have no > > solutions, but lets "we hardy few" who are a lot (but not all) of the core of > > the WRG try to keep something like communication going by the old method > > until we get a resolution from Larry and Michael (our own listowner). > > > > Allan
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From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 17:45:26 -0400 (EDT) To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
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Subject: Maillist news
Dear WRG:
I got this from the listowner of the Switzerland list (which has moved to rootsweb). I still think we should wait a bit and see what happens with Maiser. Anyone who wants to send a message to all on the Whitney list, send it to me temporarily, with *For the Whitney List* as a Subject heading, and I will forward it to everyone. Here is the further information that I just received - to let you know what is going on.
This is a news article from the Atlanta Journal Consitution newspaper May 13, 1997.
E-MAIL MISHAP HALTS GENEALOGY SERVICE, Researchers, buffs lose a valuable tool
By Art Kramar STAFF WRITER
A Dunwoody retailer said he unwittingly started a chain of junk Email that undermined one of the most popular exchanges of genealogy information on the Internet. The shutdown is depriving tens of thousands of genealogy buffs of their most effective online research tool, said John Rigdon, national coordinator of The USGenWeb Project, a genealogy clearinghouse on the World Wide Web.
The exchange, called Maiser, is a collection of mailing lists for those trading research about their ancestors. Many genealogy buffs subscribe to several lists, keyed to cities, towns, regions or family surnames. It's not unusual for a genealogy hobbyist to sift through several hundred list-sent messages daily, in search of a clue that points to a distant ancestor.
Maiser, the largest collection of detailed lists with 40,000 subscribers,
was forced off the Net last week after being used as a fake return address to hide the identity of a junk e-mailer.
The disaster began when Sam Khuri, general manager of Benchmark Print Supply, sent a $100 money order to the post office box of a company that promised to advertise his service to 50,000 potential customers. "If I knew what they were going to do, I never would have sent the money," said Khuri, whose company recycles toner cartridges for copiers.
The contractor, whose identity Khuri said he lost in a computer crash of his own, e-mailed thousands of ads touting Khuri's service last week. The junk e-mail was routed through Indiana University computers, making it appear the ads bad come from the same computers that are home to the genealogy lists.
The tactic of forging return addresses, making an uninvolved third party
appear to be the sender of junk e-mail, is a common one. Such practices prompted several online services, including CompuServe and Prodigy, to get federal courts to help them bar junk e-mailers from their services. Larry Stephens, an Indiana University official who organized the groups as a hobby over the past three years, was forced to shut them down Friday rather than let them appear to be the source of the junk e-mail. Stephens said he couldn't risk furthering the perception that the junk e-mail was somehow connected to the university.
"The loss of these mailing lists is devastating," Rigdon said. "We've lost approximately one third of our backbone for genealogy research. About 20,000 daily users of the Internet have been effectively left with no communication."
Stephens may reopen some of the regional lists this week if he can find software that can't be commandeered by junk e-mailers, but with the added security burden, he said it's unlikely he will revive the surname lists.
Robert Turner, 52, a postal clerk in Huntsville, Ala., and a descendant of traveling blacksmith David Turner, bemoaned the demise of the surname lists.
Turner and his wife, Winona Turner, added 4,000 ancestors to their family
tree in the 30 years before they computerized their search, but 20,000 more in just 16 months online. Without the surname lists, said Turner, looking for his ancestors "will be akin to driving down a dark country road with no head-lights."
And you might want to help financially or physicially (if you live in Georgia) John C. Rigdon in his legal case against the junk emailer guy under Georgia law.
John C. Rigdon ([email protected]) is the chief person to contact. Ask him what you can do to help.
>END ARTICLE
Now you know a little more. Let's keep in touch (to quote Jon Aston).
Allan
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From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 00:16:33 -0400 (EDT) To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
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Subject: Fwd: For the Whitney List
Our first forwarded message - AEG
Forwarded message: Subj: For the Whitney List Date: 97-05-14 21:55:06 EDT From: MAJEMEN To: ALLAGREEN
Hello Allan,
Thank you for the information on the Junk E-mail. I was perplexed when all the material that didn't pertain to Whitney was coming to me.
I will be willing to help financially with a new "List" I have found this Whitney data to be so helpful to my family and still need questions concerning Elinor answered as well as a definitive result of the linkage to Sir Robert. I am happy to have all the linkage to John and Elinor, which I have obtained through WRG.
Keep in touch. Perhaps we all need more principled persons and more with a sense of responsibility to all mankind. There are always those who take delight in making life miserable for others.
Jean
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From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 17:43:31 -0400 (EDT) To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
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Subject: Fwd: For the Whitney list
Nice to hear from Karen, as we slowly come to life again. Allan
Forwarded message: Subj: For the Whitney list Date: 97-05-18 07:04:02 EDT From: KTrouvat To: ALLAGREEN
Dear WRG,
First, my respects to you who are making it possible for the group to keep going during these difficult days...
As a 'library deprived' person my research possibilities are pretty limited, but I've been able to come up with a few things that may be of interest.
For those of us whos lines currently end with Jabez Whitney b.1780 (a) m. Abigail Milk Wheeler, On the GENDEX pages I found another Jabez -
<Jabez WHITNEY (b)
BIRTH: 8 Jan 1749/50, Medway, Norfolk, MA Father: Joshua WHITNEY Mother: PHEBE Family 1: Experience FAIRBANKS MARRIAGE: 20 Oct 1771, Medway, Norfolk, MA 1.Moses WHITNEY
Joshua WHITNEY
BIRTH: 21 Sep 1687 DEATH: BEF 1754 Father: Benjamin WHITNEY Family 1: PHEBE 1.Joshua WHITNEY 2.John WHITNEY 3.Jabez WHITNEY
Family 2: Hannah ROCKWOOD
MARRIAGE: 26 Nov 1709, Medfield, Norfolk, MA
[PHEBE Family 1: Joshua WHITNEY
1.Joshua WHITNEY 2.John WHITNEY 3.Jabez WHITNEY
Family 2: Caleb PARTRIDGE
MARRIAGE: 16 Jul 1751, Medway, MA
Family 3: Joseph ANKERS
MARRIAGE: 7 Jul 1755, Medway, Norfolk, MA 1.Molly ANKERS]
John WHITNEY Family 1:
1.Benjamin WHITNEY
N.B. Mike Poston - The dates for the following don’t exactly fit your data , but this is interesting as John Wheeler’s second wife is said to have been « Betsy ». This is also from GENDEX: Abigail WHEELER
BIRTH: 12 Nov 1774, Medway, Norfolk, MA
DEATH: 8 Apr 1778
Father: John WHEELER Mother: Elizabeth PARTRIDGE P.S. - Concerning the Ingraham family details you kindly offered to send me via snail mail, might it not be easier for you to just attach a GEDCOM to a message? If not, my address is 12 rue Seailles, 77630 Barbizon, France. I can send some international postal coupons to cover the cost.
This was in the Whitney newsletter of 9/14/96 from Jeanne Muse:
<<-->TO ALL: Does anyone have more information on JABEZ WHITNEY>> (c) << b. 30 Nov. 1767 - son of Jacob Whitney-5 (Jonas-4, Eleazer-3, Thomas-2, John-1) & his wife Rachel Whiting? I found some births in the Orange, Mass., vital records -- children born 1790 thru 1804 to a Jabez Whitney & Elizabeth ?.
Could these be the children of Jabez b. 1767?
-->TO ALL: The only reference to JABEZ WHITNEY in the NEHG Register appears in Vol 141 p337. The family of a Jabez Whitney with his wife Experience and son Moses moved from Medway, Mass to Wrentham, Mass in 1773.>> (This appears to be Jabez (b) above. - Karen)
Also, to the "southern" Whitneys (N.B. Michael Ray Whitney) -
Samuel Whitney (-1568) b. abt 1720 m. Agnes Bynum, father James. Here is some information: James BYNUM b. abt 1690/1700 ,Surry?,VA wife - Agnes NICHOLSON
--CHILDREN-- 1-William BYNUM 2-Nicholson BYNUM 3-Mony BYNUM 4-Agnes BYNUM
James BYNUM b. abt 1666 ,,VA (My ancestor) wife - Elizabeth MIZELL? b. abt 670 ,,VA?
--CHILDREN-- 1�William BYNUM 2�James BYNUM 3-John BYNUM
John BYNUM b. abt 1616 ,,England? wife - Rosamond b. abt 1620/1640 ,,VA?
--CHILDREN-- 1�John BYNUM 2�James BYNUM
Source: Bynum and Baynham Families of America 1616-1850, Robert William Baird, Gateway Press 1983, Lib. of Congress Card Number 83-82272.
Lastly, for Smoot tie-ins (N.B. LouBrad) GENDEX has 39 html pages for the Smoot family.
I'm looking forward to seeing Jabez (a) and descendants on our Whitney pages!
Best regards to all, Karen in France
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From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 12:58:46 -0400 (EDT) To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
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Subject: Fwd: For the Whitney list
WRG - Follow up on the Jabez Whitney question from yesterday (May 18) - AEG
Forwarded message: Subj: Re: For the Whitney list Date: 97-05-19 05:59:42 EDT From: KTrouvat To: ALLAGREEN
To Jeanne Muse - Concerning my post of yesterday in which I quoted your
Whitney newsletter of 9/14/96 as follows:
<<-->TO ALL: Does anyone have more information on JABEZ WHITNEY>> (c) << b. 30 Nov. 1767 - son of Jacob Whitney-5 (Jonas-4, Eleazer-3, Thomas-2, John-1) & his wife Rachel Whiting? I found some births in the Orange, Mass., vital records -- children born 1790 thru 1804 to a Jabez Whitney & Elizabeth ?.
Could these be the children of Jabez b. 1767?>>
Might I ask you kindly to post the information on those Orange, MA births? Many thanks, Karen in France
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From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 12:59:19 -0400 (EDT) To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
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Subject: Re: Lists of Whitney VR's available
Dear WRG:
A question that came to me today leads me to realize that the last message I sent out to the WRG about the available list of VR lists came out at a time that Maiser was just beginning to have problems. Indeed, today I got more than a dozen messages from Northeast-Roots, a Maiser list, that were originally mailed on March 31, April 1st & 2nd. They had been floating around on Larry Stephens' hard disk, I guess. So, I decided to repeat below the message that I sent out on March 31, with the contents of the eleven collections of Whitney Vital Record extracts that are available from me as an ASCII file. Even though it says MA VR's, notice that the last list includes Gorham, ME and Keene, NH.
Keep hunting! Allan E. Green <[email protected]>
Dear WRG: [message of March 31, reprinted]
I think (!) that I have finally caught up with all the VR's that were sent to the list and to me by Peg Sanborn & Jan Whitaker and a host of other volunteers including Jon Aston, Karen Grubaugh, Marion Leska, Jeannie Muse, Brenda and Paul Nichols, Bert Smith, Carolyn Vosburg, Robert Ward, Vickie White and Jerry Whitney, and if I somehow missed somebody, I am terribly sorry and apologize profusely.
For some of the newer list members, this is a project that began quite some time ago, and is available in several forms - on Robert Ward's WebSite at
http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/
and from me in the eleven lists of towns shown below, as an ASCII file that is quite easy to load into a word processor and print out for quick reference. For many of those who have been collecting along the way, I have deleted a few instances of duplication, especially Concord and Groton which were first published in an incomplete form and later corrected (the earlier ones are no longer in the lists), and I have also combined the Stow and Templeton/Harvard lists, which had been offered separately, with some others to cut down on the number of "collected lists" all told.
Here, then, is what I hope is the last of the offerings of collected Whitney VR's
EXTRACTED WHITNEY VITAL RECORDS
A list of lists
VITAL RECORDS FOR ASSORTED MASSACHUSETTS TOWNS, PART I Bedford, Chelmsford, Gloucester, Holliston, Hopkinton, Leicester, Medway, Mendon, Milford, Rutland, Sudbury, Westford
VITAL RECORDS FOR ASSORTED MASSACHUSETTS TOWNS, PART II Athol, Bellingham, Bolton, Boxborough, Brookfield, Brookline, Natick, Sherborn, Waltham
VITAL RECORDS FOR ASSORTED MASSACHUSETTS TOWNS, PART III Acton, Cambridge, Conway, Dracut, Dudley, Dunstable, Gardner, Grafton, Newton,
VITAL RECORDS FOR ASSORTED MASSACHUSETTS TOWNS, PART IV Abington, Amesbury, Andover, Arlington, Ashburnham, Ashfield, Attleborough, Barre, Becket, Beverly, Billerica, Boxford, Bradford, Bridgewater,
Brimfield,
Burlington, Charlemont, Charlestown, Chelsea, Chester, Concord, Dana, Danvers, Dartmouth, Dedham, Deerfield, Douglas, Dover, Duxbury, East Bridgewater, Foxborough, Framingham,
VITAL RECORDS FOR ASSORTED MASSACHUSETTS TOWNS, PART V Boylston, Buckland, Colrain, Cummington, Granville, Greenfield, Hardwick, Hinsdale, Holden, Hubbardston, Ipswich, Lancaster, Lawrence, Lee,
Leominster,
Lexington, Lowell, Lynn, Malden, Manchester, Marblehead, Marborough, Medfield,
VITAL RECORDS FOR ASSORTED MASSACHUSETTS TOWNS, PART VI
Eastham, Fitchburg, Groton, Hanover, Harwich, Littleton, Lunenburg, Marshfield, Medford, Methuen, Millbury, Montague, Newburyport, New Bedford, Northbridge, Otis, Oxford, Watertown
VITAL RECORDS FOR ASSORTED MASSACHUSETTS TOWNS, PART VII Nantucket, New Salem, Newbury, Pelham, Pembroke, Pepperell, Phillipston, Princeton, Reading, Rochester, Salem, Salisbury, Sandisfield, Scituate, Sharon, Shirley, Shrewsbury, Southborough, Spencer, Stoneham, Tewksbury, Tisbury,
VITAL RECORDS FOR ASSORTED MASSACHUSETTS TOWNS, PART VIII
Petersham, Sterling, Sutton, Townsend, Tyngsborough, Upton, Uxbridge, Walpole, Wakefield, Warren, Washington, Wayland, West Boylston, West Springfield, Webster, Weston, Westport, Windsor, Winchendon,
VITAL RECORDS FOR ASSORTED MASSACHUSETTS TOWNS, PART IX Templeton, Harvard, Woburn, Waltham
VITAL RECORDS FOR ASSORTED MASSACHUSETTS TOWNS, PART X Stow, Westminster, Weymouth, Williamstown, Worthington, Wrentham, Yarmouth
VITAL RECORDS FOR ASSORTED MASSACHUSETTS (ME, NH) TOWNS, PART XI Berlin, Boston, Braintree, Canton, Charleton, Dorchester, Lincoln, Minton, Palmer, Peru, Royalston, Shelburne, Stoughton, Worcester, Gorham, ME, Keene, NH
As always, those who would like copies of any of the above eleven ASCII files sent to them as attachments, please write me a note directly, indicating which of these you would like sent to you.
I am still bouncing around ideas about an overall index to all the Whitney data that has been appearing - starting with these records and including all the different kinds of data that has been showing up through the generosity of the group, taken from town records, obituaries, cemeteries, newspapers, family genealogies like the Pierce, etc. and family tree submissions. The problem is to figure out a way to build a relational database that will not only allow but also encourage the creation of links among the various entries.
I will be seeking assistance from the computer science department at my school, and will try to keep you posted about developments.
This is something that I just cannot see being done by any of the current genealogy packages, but I can't lay claim to much experience with a lot of them. I do have some idea of structure and structural analysis from my profession as a Music Theorist, and will be trying to apply that type of analysis to the problem of creating such a database. I know Peg has made a start with an index of these VR's, and I would hope to incorporate that with anything that I try to do. More on all this as it develops.
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From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 00:59:59 -0400 (EDT) To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
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Subject: Forward for Whitney List
Dear WRG:
This is a forward for Jerry Harrison ([email protected]). Hope someone can help him.
Allan - Could you forward a message on to the WHITNEY list? I lost my address book containing the addresses in some computer glitch (most likely of my own making!)
Anyway, Gratia Francis WHITNEY, of Fitchburg, Worcester, MA, m. 12/31/1848 Edward Cutter LOCKE of Lancaster, Worcester, MA. This is basically all of the information I have about them. I'm interested in vital dates and whether they had children. I have done a fair amount of research on Lancaster and suspect that they may have moved elsewhere.
Thanks for passing this to the list.
Jerry
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From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 13:30:14 -0400 (EDT) To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
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Subject: Fwd: Allan - please forward to List - JGW
For all, but Henry searchers pay particular attention. No connection yet, but this is basic stuff you need to save. AEG
Forwarded message: From: [email protected] To: [email protected] CC: [email protected] Date: 97-05-20 09:13:14 EDT
Folks,
Just in from Mike Spathaky who is Secretary of the (UK) Guild of One Name Studies (GOONS) - an index of Cheshire Wills 1492-1857. I have extracted the WHITNEY entries for those consummate Henry hunters et al. There were no entries under obvious name variants (WITN..., WYT..., WHYTN...).
Not much info, I'm afraid - just enough to whet the appetite. Someone needs to go to Cheshire R/O to look through the microfilm copies of these Wills to extract details. I would love to volunteer but it's 150 miles from Oxford and I don't have the time just now.
If anyone sees a name or names that hold particular interest, I may be able to get the R/O do the lookup, or I could order a copy through the mail.
Other details below for those interested in other names.
Regards
John Whitney
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From: Mike Spathaky <[email protected]> To: "All," <[email protected]> Subject: Cheshire Will Index on the Web
All,
I received this e-mail fronm the genuki maintainers mailing list and thought it might be of interest. There are several county surnames interest lists on the various genuki county pages.
Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 13:57:05 +0100 From: Brett Langston <[email protected]> Subject: Cheshire Will Index on the Web
Hello All,
For the last five years, the Cheshire Record Office has been compiling a computerised database of its Cheshire wills. Work has just been completed, and the index covers over 70,000 records of probate from the period 1492-1857, showing the name, abode and occupation of the testator, and the type of documents concerned (i.e., wills, inventories, admons, or other).
In collaboration with the Family History Society of Cheshire, the CRO has now made this index available on the net. The main index page is at:
http://sentinel.mcc.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/CHS/wills/index.htm
The whole thing occupies 6.5 Mb, and 100 separate pages, and I'm extremely grateful to Phil Stringer for making the space available on Sentinel. I hope that having an average file size of 65 kB will deter people from attempting to download the whole thing, while at the same time not discouraging people from looking up their own specific interests.
The CRO maintains the copyright on the original data, although they are happy to make it freely available, and have no plans to sell their printed versions.
This project may be of interest to maintainers of other counties, who may be considering similar ventures at some point in the future.
Brett Langston The Family History Society of Cheshire http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/blangston/fhsc/
WILLS AT THE CHESHIRE RECORD OFFICE
This index includes all the wills 1492-1857 proved at the Chester diocesan consistory court and now held at the Record Office. It brings together the supra wills (for estates of 40 pounds and over), the infra wills (less than 40 pounds), the disputed wills and the registered wills, most of which were previously listed separately. These wills cover roughly the old county of Cheshire as it existed prior to 1974.
The index supplies name, abode and occupaton. It also indicates the type of record which survives for the testator.
Type of record:
1 = will 2 = 'admon' or administration bond (normally where there is no will) 3 = inventory of personal property 4 = codocil or other probate documents
Most wills are supra (WS). Where they are not, eg. infra (WI), contested (WC) or registered (EDA 2), this will be entitled in the column headed 'notes'. Other relevant details will be noted here also.
These pages have been prepared by the Cheshire Record Office in collaboration with The Family History Society of Cheshire.
NAME ABODE OCCUPATION DATE TYPE
WHITNEY, ELIZABETH COOLE, NEWHALL SPINSTER 1696 1 WHITNEY, ELIZABETH MALPAS WIFE OF THOMAS 1742 2 WHITNEY, HARRIET MACCLESFIELD WIDOW 1854 1 WHITNEY, HUGH COOLE GENTLEMAN 1611 3 WHITNEY, HUGH COOLE GENTLEMAN 1697 1 WHITNEY, JAMES WISTASTON LABOURER 1820 1 WHITNEY, JULIAN BARTHOMLEY WIDOW 1694 3 1 WHITNEY, MARY WRENBURY GENTLEMAN 1616 3 1 WHITNEY, MARY COOLE, WRENBURY 1617 3 WHITNEY, MATTHEW
WORTHINGTON MACCLESFIELD YEOMAN 1841 1
WHITNEY, MICHAEL NEWHALL HUSBANDMAN 1617 3 WHITNEY, RACHAEL WRENBURY,
COOLE HALL GENTLEMAN 1685 3 1
WHITNEY, RALPH BARTHOMLEY HUSBANDMAN 1668 3 1 WHITNEY, RICHARD PICTON GENTLEMAN 1612 3 1 WHITNEY, ROBERT KERMINCHAM HUSBANDMAN 1733 3 2 * WHITNEY, ROBERT COOL 1749 1 2 WHITNEY, SILAS BUGLAWTON YEOMAN 1801 1 WHITNEY, THOMAS CREWE, FARNDON YEOMAN 1720 2 WHITNEY, WILLIAM HASLINGTON GENTLEMAN 1845 1
* INFRA
Copyright (c) 1997 Cheshire Record Office
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Subject: Fwd: For the Whitney list
WRG:
Jeanne's response to Karen - and we need help here - MA residents, please note! It looks like we will be going elsewhere, but there seems to be a home soon to be forthcoming, as soon as the Rootsweb people get their new server up and running and the procedure for taking over Larry's lists worked out. Will keep you posted. For those suffering withdrawal pangs, Northeast-Roots has been reconstituted as Northeast-Roots-L, but still at Larry's shop, under a new listserver. If you are interested, drop me a note and I will post directions on how to subscribe (for those of you who were not on the list previously - those who were clearly know how to do it already) AEG
Forwarded message: From: [email protected] (Jeanne Muse) To: [email protected] (INTERNET:[email protected]), [email protected] (Karen Trouvat) Date: 97-05-21 07:13:59 EDT
>>Might I ask you kindly to post the information on those Orange, MA births? Many thanks, Karen in France<<
Unfortunately, all that I have are handwritten notes from viewing a film at our local LDS library. Thus, they are not accurate and I dare not post then as "official". Does anyone have access to the ORANGE, MASSACHUSETTS VITALS RECORDS? I notice that this city was not among the "Extracted" ones that we have done so far.
- -) Jeanne (Whitney) Muse
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Subject: Fwd: For the Whitney Group
Forwarded message: From: [email protected] (Jeanne Muse) To: [email protected] (Allan E. Green) Date: 97-05-22 06:56:20 EDT
Concerning our previous postings regarding the Orange, Massachusetts, vital records, Rob Roy wrote to me today:
"I have Fisks Cemetery listing for Orange, Mass. The Orange VR have never been published."
Pity! In case anyone needs Rob's address to ask him about the cemetery records, reach him via e-mail at [email protected]
- -) Jeanne (Whitney) Muse
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Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 09:32:25 -0700 From: The Lindsays <[email protected]> To: [email protected] CC: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
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Subject: How are you?
Hi, Cousins, Have not had any mail for ages! Have not heard from the Whitneys or any one but my brother, son, and cousin Barb. I miss all the activity. What is happening with the group? By the way, do any of you know who this "Pratt and Whitney" is that the Lady Finch attributes her successful round the world flight? She just landed here at Oakland airport. Why don't you give me a write and let me know how things are! Miss you all, MAL
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Subject: Fwd: Pre-1790 Whitneys
Forwarded message: (I've got the Torrey New England Marriages prior to 1700, and the Bailey Early Connecticut Marriages until next Tuesday - if you have a query about an missing marriage that might be in either of these, send it to me before Monday night)
Allan
Forwarded message: From: [email protected] (Barry GeneDoctor Whitney) To: [email protected] Date: 97-05-29 09:44:27 EDT
If this didn't reach the list because of the recent unpleasantries, maybe you would pass it around. Thanks, Barry
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Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 12:49:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Barry GeneDoctor Whitney <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] Subject: Pre-1790 Whitneys
The following information regarding early American Whitneys (mostly 1770's
and 1780's) in New England and the Carolinas (one OH listing) was found on
a CD called Colonial America -- Pre-1790, Census Index, Tax Lists, etc.,
from CD#136 - Automated Archives, GRS, MicroQuix; SNDX W350
I thought some of you on this list might find helpful leads here. I think these are all the Whitney listings they have. Are there other names people would like me to look up?
NAME---- TOWNSHIP/EVENT PAGE TYPE NOTES
CT PRE-1790, CONN. AREA, CT 1780 WHITNEY, Joshua NO TWP LISTED # PT
CT PRE-1790, FAIRFIELD CO., CT 1673 WHITNEY, Henry NORWALK #
CT PRE-1790, FAIRFIELD CO., CT 1762 WHITNEY, Samuel FAIRFIELD #
CT PRE-1790, FAIRFIELD CO., CT 1777 WHITNEY, Henrey Jr. RIDGEFIELD PATRIOT #
CT PRE-1790, TOLLAND CO., CT 1759 WHITNEY, Benjamin WILLINGTON # WHITNEY, Josiah WILLINGTON # WHITNEY, Josiah Jr. WILLINGTON #
CT PRE-1790, WINDHAM CO., CT 1702 WHITNEY, Joshua PLAINFIELD #
CT PRE-1790, WINDHAM CO., CT 1781 GRAVES, Whitney KILLINGLY # PT WHITNEY, Asa KILLINGLY # PT WHITNEY, Cornelius KILLINGLY # PT
CT PRE-1790, WINDHAM CO., CT 1781 WHITNEY, Curnelious KILLINGLY # PT WHITNEY, David KILLINGLY # PT WHITNEY, John KILLINGLY # PT WHITNEY, Joshua KILLINGLY # PT
MA PRE-1790, MASS. COLONY, MA 1636 WHITNEY, John FREEMAN 3 MARCH #
MA PRE-1790, MASS. COLONY, MA 1651 WHITNEY, Richard FREEMAN 7 MAY #
MA PRE-1790, MASS. COLONY, MA 1668 WHITNEY, Jonathan FREEMAN 29 APR #
MA PRE-1790, MASS. COLONY, MA 1684 WHITNEY, John FREEMAN 7 MAY #
MA PRE-1790, MIDDLESEX CO., MA 1652 WHITNEY, Jonathan OATH OF FIDELITY # 187
MA PRE-1790, MIDDLESEX CO., MA 1653 WHITNEY, Jonathan WATERTON # 281
MA PRE-1790, MIDDLESEX CO., MA 1664 WHITNEY, Jonathan MARLBOROUGH # 401
MA PRE-1790, MIDDLESEX CO., MA 1734 WHITNEY, Daniel CONCORD # 021 WHITNEY, Jonathan CONCORD # 021
MA PRE-1790, PLYMOUTH CO., MA 1643 WHITNEY, Jeremiah ARM BEARERS # 256 WHITNEY, Thomas ARM BEARERS # 256
ME PRE-1790, CUMBERLAND CO., ME 1763 WHITNEY, Abel GORBAM # 307 (Gorham?) WHITNEY, Amos GORBAM # 307 WHITNEY, David GORBAM # 307 WHITNEY, Moses GORBAM # 307 WHITNEY, Moses Jr. GORBAM # 307 WHITNEY, Nathan GORBAM # 307 WHITNEY, Nathaniel Jr.GORBAM # 307
ME PRE-1790, HANCOCK CO., ME 1761 WHITNEY, Matthisa MOUNT DESERT # 232
ME PRE-1790, YORK CO., ME 1752 WHITNEY, Benjamin NO TWP LISTED # 197
ME PRE-1790, YORK CO., ME 1787 WHITNEY, Jonathan TOPSHAM # 023 WHITNEY, Jonathan Jr. TOPSHAM # 023
NC PRE-1790, RANDOLPH CO., NC 1779 WHITNEY, Ebenezer NO TWP LISTED # WHITNEY, Ebenezer TAX LIST #
NC PRE-1790, SAMPSON CO., NC 1784 WHITNEY, Josiah #
NC PRE-1790, WAYNE CO., NC 1786 WHITNEY, Ebenezer #
NH PRE-1790, CHESHIRE CO., NH 1776 WHITNEY, Ephraim CHESTERFIELD # WHITNEY, Ephraim Lt. CHESTERFIELD # WHITNEY, James WINCHESTER # WHITNEY, Joel CHESTERFIELD # WHITNEY, Joseph SURRY # WHITNEY, Solomon RINDGE #
NH PRE-1790, HILLSBORO CO., NH 1742 WHITNEY, James HOLLIS # 148
NH PRE-1790, HILLSBOROUTH CO., NH 1776 WHITNEY, Richard WILTON #
NH PRE-1790, MERRIMACK CO., NH 1776 WHITNEY, Alexander HENNIKER #
OH PRE-1790, NORTHWEST TERR., OH 1788 WHITNEY, Elisha RESIDENTS # 228
RI PRE-1790, KENT CO., RI 1782 WHITNEY, James WARWICK # WHITNEY, Mary WARWICK # WHITNEY, Wate EAST GREENWICH #
RI PRE-1790, WARWICK, RI 1774 WHITNEY, James # 67 1 2 1 1 0 0 WHITNEY, Joseph # 67 1 1 1 1 0 0
SC PRE-1790, CHARLESTON CO., SC 1778 WHITNEY, Lebbeus NO TOWNSHIP LISTED #
SC PRE-1790, CHARLESTON CO., SC 1780 WHITNEY, Lebbeus NO TOWNSHIP LISTED #
SC PRE-1790, EDGEFIELD CO., SC 1787 WHITNEY, Frances NO TOWNSHIP LISTED #
VT PRE-1790, ADDISON CO., VT 1778 WHITNEY, James STARKSBOROUGH # 031
VT PRE-1790, BENNINGTON CO., VT 1786 WHITNEY, Ebenezer WINDHALL # 200 WHITNEY, Ephraim WINDHALL # 200 WHITNEY, Ephriam WINDHALL # 200
VT PRE-1790, BENNINGTON CO., VT 1787 WHITNEY, Ebenezer WINHALL # 283 WHITNEY, Elisha WINHALL # 283 WHITNEY, Ephraim WINHALL # 283 WHITNEY, Isaac LANDGROVE # 361 WHITNEY, Soloman LANDGROVE # 361
VT PRE-1790, CHITTENDEN CO., VT 1788 WHITNEY, Silas Jr. PETITIONERS # 030
VT PRE-1790, RUTLAND CO., VT 1781 WHITNEY, Cornelius PETITIONERS # 228 WHITNEY, David PETITIONERS # 228
VT PRE-1790, RUTLAND CO., VT 1784 WHITNEY, Silas PETITIONERS # 098
VT PRE-1790, RUTLAND CO., VT 1787 WHITNEY, Micah RUTLAND # 294 WHITNEY, Oliver CLARENDON # 312
VT PRE-1790, WINDHAM CO., VT 1778-3
CUMINGS, Whitney ATHENS # 035
WHITNEY, Richard ATHENS # 036
VT PRE-1790, WINDHAM CO., VT 1780 WHITNEY, John ROCKINGHAM # 189
VT PRE-1790, WINDHAM CO., VT 1781 WHITNEY, Ezra ROCKINGHAM # 039 WHITNEY, Ezra Jr. ROCKINGHAM # 039 WHITNEY, John ROCKINGHAM # 039
VT PRE-1790, WINDHAM CO., VT 1785 WHITNEY, Hachaliah PETITIONERS # 117
VT PRE-1790, WINDHAM CO., VT 1787 WHITNEY, Ephraim GUILFORD # 376
VT PRE-1790, WINDHAM CO., VT 1787 WHITNEY, Ephraim Jr. GUILFORD # 376
VT PRE-1790, WINDSOR CO., VT 1779 WHITNEY, Ezra CHESTER # 060 WHITNEY, John CHESTER # 060
VT PRE-1790, WINDSOR CO., VT 1788 CUMMINS, Israil Whitney WOODSTOCK # 115
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Subject: Fwd: Whitney
Dear WRG:
This is to introduce Sandra Elrod, who has just joined us. As you can see from Jon's connection for her ancestor from the Pierce book, she has already a slew of ready made "cousins" in the line from John to Richard to Moses. I have written to Michael about the transfer of the WRG to another listserver and hope to hear from him soon about whatever I and other volunteers can do to facilitate the transfer. One by one the other lists are coming back, the regional lists through Larry at Indiana and the single surname lists on RootsWeb.
>Dear Allan:
>NO PROBLEM IN FORWARDING MY LINEAGE. I am really hoping to find someone >that knows something about the George Hilliard family. George had my great >granfather Ernest Eliphalet Whitney with his first wife Winnifred Dunbar.
Also, I know >that there was more than one child (Fannie Pauline) with his
second wife Addie May >Ellis.
>Sandra Elrod
Happy Hunting:-)
Allan
Forwarded message: Subj: Re: Whitney Date: 97-05-29 20:46:54 EDT From: MRJ79 To: SElrod393 CC: ALLAGREEN
Hello Sandra
I found your Simon in Pierce's genealogy and he is connected to John Whitney, who imigrated to America in 1635, and Elinor as follows:
John Whitney and Elinor Richard Whitney and Martha Coldam Moses Whitney and Sarah Knight Jonas Whitney and Margaret Stratton Timothy Whitney and Alice Whitney Simon Whitney, b. Harvard, June 28, 1756; m. in Petersham, Mar. 20, 1783, Lucy Hammond, of Newton, dau of Enoch, b. Dec. 24, 1766; d. 1846 Simon Whitney, b. Nov. 25, 1795; m. Sarah Holmes George Reddington Whitney, b. May 27, 1829; m. Pauline B. Hilliard George Hilliard Whitney, b. July 4, 1853; m. Addie May Ellis Fannie Pauline Whitney, b. Apr. 25, 1892 end of info, book was published in 1895
If you want more info please let me know.
I am the compiler of the Whitney database and I'd like to add your line if
you want. The database will likely be put on a Web page and you info will be available on the internet. If you agree please send me the balance of your line.
Keep in Touch
Jon Aston
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