Mailing List Discussions, October 1997

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From: ALLAGREEN@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 02:31:25 -0400 (EDT) To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Who Are Ancestors of William M. Whitney?

Hi Diana:

Glad you are with us and working on this line. Beautiful query - well organized, clear, provides solid information and shows what and where and when the missing information is possible to be found. Especially liked your provision of the data on father being sourced as the death certificate, which does raise the question - who was the informant for the death certificate?

If it is the widow or a child, the information can be rated as very reliable

- if he was the last of the line in the area and someone not from the immediate family was the informant, then it becomes more questionable.

Hope your posting bears fruit - I'll be delighted if you can carry this line back to the point of connecting to one of the known lines of descent.

Happy Hunting

Allan

Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 18:32:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Barry Whitney <barryw@therock.mcg.edu> To: Cousins <Whitney-L@rootsweb.com>

Subject: Genealogical Research at the National Archives

Perhaps this page may be of interest to some on this list. Enjoy, Barry


http://www.nara.gov/genealogy/genindex.html

Federal government Genealogy Page

From: ALLAGREEN@aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 10:21:02 -0400 (EDT) To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: SUCCESS AT LAST!!!

Dear WRG:

Thanks to the brilliance of Randy Winch the problem with importing into PAF is solved. He logically deduced that, if I was stopping every time after 7028 successful imports, that the problem must lie in the Gedcom record for the 7029th individual. He went to that spot in the umpteen thousand line gedcom and discovered that person #7029 had neither a name or a sex. So, he inserted two lines, giving "him" a sex and a name - haven't even looked to see what yet, had to report to you ASAP - and I have now downloaded Whitney12 with the correct number of individuals and marriages, and with 2021 notes and sources.

Those of you using PAF 3.0 may get this two ways. I'll be glad to send you the straight PAF3 data file for Whitney12, so you won't even have to import the gedcom and convert it, or you can do what I did and go to this site and download Randy's corrected gedcom (which is zipped, so it only takes about 3-4 minutes) and then convert it yourself as you see fit. The "address" to enter in your internet connection software is:

ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/gumby/witpaf3.zip

Jon, please disregard my earlier message about revisions and another attempt.

I got the info that allowed me do to the above in the same session in which

I sent that last message to you. Also, thank you again for your incredible patience and helpfulness with trying to solve this problem. I know I speak for many others when I say how lucky we all are to have you doing what you do for all of us.

Happy Hunting!

Allan GENEALOGICAL TRUTH FOR TODAY: Your mother neglects to mention that, "Oh, yes, we knew they had changed their name..."

Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 08:51:22 -0600 To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com From: Tim Doyle <tdoyle@doit.com> Subject: Re: Ezra Whitney, 1759, VT

At 08:32 PM 9/27/97, "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> wrote:

>This is very interesting. I looked at this database today, and found an error >which I thought I ought to report to the WRG and to the author, Tim Doyle.

Thank you so much for writing. I have for some time been trying to extend my WHITNEY lineage. Your letter has provided the clues and information that I have been searching for.

>The page states, but the pension application does not, that this Ezra WHITNEY >was b. 1759 in Douglas, MA ... his purported father, Ezra WHITNEY, who was born >22 Feb 1729/30, Framingham, MA. This older Ezra WHITNEY was Ezra-5 WHITNEY >[James-4, John-3, Jonathan-2, John-1] ...

Although I knew that I was descended from an Ezra WHITNEY father/son pair, the identification of them as the ones born in 1759 and b. 22 Feb 1729/30 was never more than a remote possibility on my part. I had their information linked in at one point, but the more I looked at this other Ezra/Ezra pair, the more I decided that it was not the correct pair. My local database had the information from this other Ezra pair removed, but I hadn't yet updated the online version.

>There was an Ezra WHITNEY who lived in Rockingham, Windham Co., VT, however! >On a list of residents of Rockingham for 1781 appear Ezra WHITNEY and Ezra >WHITNEY, Jr. (CD #136: Colonial America -- Pre-1790, Census Index, Tax Lists, >etc., by Automated Archives). It is this Ezra WHITNEY, Jr., who is without >doubt the Revolutionary soldier. But who was he? I can find only one father/ >son pair named Ezra who are old enough to be these men: Ezra-6 WHITNEY, b. 29 >Nov 1760, Lunenburg, MA, son of Ezra-5 and Agnes (-----) WHITNEY [John-4, >Isaiah-3, Thomas-2, John-1]. > >What do we know about the family of this last man, Ezra-5 WHITNEY? He was b. >24 Aug 1731, Harvard, MA, son of John-4 and Rebecca-4 (WHITNEY) WHITNEY. He >married firstly a certain Agnes -----. It is alleged, with what authority I >do not know, that her maiden name was ROSSITER. Pierce reports that it was >ROSS. See <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/john/num173.html#690> for him >and his ancestry. They had the following children recorded in Shirley, >Lunenburg, and Montague, MA: > 1. son, b. 17 May 1756, Shirley. > 2. daughter, b. 18 Dec 1757, Shirley. > 3. Ezra, b. 29 Nov 1760, Lunenburg. > 4. Rebekah, b. 2 Jan 1762, Lunenburg. > 5. Agnes, b. 10 Apr 1767, Montague. >See their vital records: > <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/mass/shirley.html> > <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/mass/lunenburg.html> > <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/mass/montague.html> >He is alleged by Pierce to have had a second wife Elizabeth -----. I found a >marriage record of Ezra WHITNEY and Elizabeth MARSHALL, at Brookline, MA, on 5 >Mar 1788, recorded in Boston VR > <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/mass/boston.html> >who may or may not be this man. If it was not this man, I cannot identify who >it might have been. Presumably he moved to New Hampshire shortly after the >birth of Agnes in 1767, and to Whitingham, VT, by 1780. > >What is wrong with this picture? Firstly, the birth of Ezra-6 was not >recorded in New Hampshire, but in Lunenburg, MA. Lunenburg is very close to >the MA-NH state line. It is possible that he was born in NH and the birth >recorded in MA. Apparently either he was already living there, or else he >moved to New Hampshire at age about 8 years. Where is the sister Lucretia? >Apparently she was born after the move to New Hampshire, or the second move to >Vermont. There are two older sisters recorded, and perhaps others unrecorded. >This is a *much* better fit than the other pair of Ezra WHITNEYs mentioned >above.

Perhaps the following will be of use in identifying this family:

Thomas Bellows Peck, "Records of the First Church of Rockingham, Vermont, from its Organization, Oct. 27, 1773 to Sept. 25, 1839," in The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, Volume 54, April 1900 as found on The New England Historical and Genealogical Register CD-ROM set (1996), p. 201:

[1776]

August 4. Propounded Agnis Whitney, having formerly own'd the Covenant.

August 25. Receiv'd Agnis Whitney into the Chh.

Sept. 1. Baptiz'd Moses Agnis & Lucretia Children of Ezra & Agnis Whitney.

Sept. 15. ... Baptiz'd ... Elizabeth Daughter of John & Elizabeth Whitney.


We now know that the earlier Ezra was married to Agnis (-----) and they had children named Moses, Agnis, and Lucretia. Because the later Ezra lived in the same town and his sister Lucretia was listed in his pension application, I think we are safe to assume that he was also the son of Ezra and Agnis, though this will need to be verified by further research.

The John and Elizabeth WHITNEY who baptized daughter Elizabeth 15 Sep 1776 in Rockingham, VT appear to be the earlier Ezra's brother John and his second wife Elizabeth SAWTELL, providing evidence that they too moved to Rockingham.

I will put together additional information on this family in a future letter to this mailing list, including information that states that the city of Canaseraga, New York was once named Whitney Valley, in honor of the younger Ezra WHITNEY who moved there in 1818.

Thank you so much for the information which has enabled me to finally sort out my line.



Tim Doyle tdoyle@doit.com / tdoyle@netcom.com

WWW homepage: http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ ftp directory: doit.com pub/tdoyle

Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 20:57:13 -0600 To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com From: Tim Doyle <tdoyle@doit.com>

Subject: Extracted WHITNEYs from Rockingham Church (VT)

The following is an extract of all WHITNEY records found in:

Thomas Bellows Peck, "Records of the First Church of Rockingham, Vermont, from its Organization, Oct. 27, 1773 to Sept. 25, 1839," in The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, as found on The New England Historical and Genealogical Register CD-ROM set (1996), volume 54, pp. 197-202, 289-300, 435-439; volume 55, pp. 58-65, 425-431; volume 56, pp. 248-260, 384-396.

[vol. 54, p. 201] [1776] August 4. Propounded Agnis Whitney, having formerly own'd the Covenant. [1776] August 25. Receiv'd Agnis Whitney into the Chh. [1776] Sept. 1. Baptiz'd Moses Agnis & Lucretia Children of Ezra & Agnis Whitney. [1776] Sept. 15. ... Baptiz'd ... Elizabeth Daughter of John & Elizabeth Whitney.

[vol. 54, p. 293] [1781] May 31. Married Ebenezer Stoell & Parmela Whitney of Rockingham

[vol. 54, p. 296] [1783] Sept 7 Baptiz'd Abigail Daughter of John & Whitney

[vol. 55, p. 429] Catalogue of Such as were Received into the Chh First Gather'd October 27, 1773

1775 & 1776: Agnis Whitney

[vol. 56, p. 254] [1781] May 31 Married Ebenezer Stoell & Pamela Whitney

[vol. 56, p. 256] [1797] August 3 Married Josiah Johnson & Elisabeth Whitney

[vol. 56, p. 385] (deaths) 1782. Octob 8 John Whitney's 2d child.

[vol. 56, p. 388] Chh Members of Rockingham Chh:

... Agnis Whitney ...

[NOTE: This list appears to list all church member admissions in the same order that they were listed in the other records listed above.]



Tim Doyle tdoyle@doit.com / tdoyle@netcom.com

WWW homepage: http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ ftp directory: doit.com pub/tdoyle

From: KTrouvat@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 09:04:55 -0400 (EDT) To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: SUCCESS AT LAST!!!

Many thanks to all who worked on and corrected the gedcom problem!

Allan, may I ask you to send me the file for PAF3? Sincere thanks from Karen

By the way, has anyone yet come up with information on the parents of Jabez Whitney born 22 Mar 1780 of N. Yarmouth,ME died1839 ,Adams co.,IL


From: ALLAGREEN@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 14:58:24 -0400 (EDT) To: KTrouvat@aol.com cc: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: SUCCESS AT LAST!!!

Dear Karen and WRG:

On behalf of Jon and Randy and the others who contributed - thank you for your thanks. I just made a pest of myself until Randy finally found the answer.

HOWEVER

There still is a problem and Randy is working on it (I hope). He organized his output from his gedcom in the standard manner, and I got it all - boy did I get it all! The file, when it finished loading was 5.75 million bytes big!

It seems that FTW exports some data that PAF doesn't take in, so it created

thousands of lines of notes that all say the same thing

The following GEDCOM lines could not be added to the PAF file:

Line in Record @F0543@ (MRIN 540) from GEDCOM file not recognized: _FREL Natural

Line in Record @F0543@ (MRIN 540) from GEDCOM file not recognized: _MREL Natural

Line in Record @F0543@ (MRIN 540) from GEDCOM file not recognized: _FREL Natural

Line in Record @F0543@ (MRIN 540) from GEDCOM file not recognized: _MREL Natural

Line in Record @F0544@ (MRIN 541) from GEDCOM file not recognized: _FREL Natural

etc.

FTW, however, does have the capacity to tailor the output of its gedcom generation process, and Randy is going to prepare one that is designed for PAF, using settings suggested in one of my calls to Tech Support in SLC, and send it to me. I'll install it and test it and then announce again how and where to get it sent to you. I sent one to Robin Brown and have told him to put it on hold until we get things cleared out. I did just a little "deletion" of all these lines in the various individual record notes and marriage record notes, and it got old in a big hurry. There is actually about 2.5 megabytes of this stuff, as best I can determine.

Be of good cheer. We'll get it yet.

Karen: As far as I know, we've not yet found a father for your Jabez Whitney of North Yarmouth, ME, who married the lady with the fascinating name, Abigail Milk Wheeler. I'm still looking every chance I get to look at ME records. Somehow that name combination keeps itself at the front of my attention (which wanders more and more the older I get!).

Allan GENEALOGICAL TRUTH FOR TODAY: If you find a well-documented, illustrious ancestor, you've probably made a mistake! [like George Washington, maybe - AEG]

Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 15:14:47 -0400 (EDT) To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com From: janwhit@MA.ultranet.com (Janice Whitaker) Subject: Maine Whitney notes

Dear WRG's-- I have come across the following references in my Maine research. Some are brief and you will have to "make the connections", but I will give the sources if you wish to follow up.

CHARLES E. WHITNEY, 37yrs, buried in Greenwood Cemetery, Biddeford, ME. "Crossing into Eternity: a collection of epitaphs, plus epistles on death, dying and eternal life" Merchant, Frank R,;Anundsen Pub. Co., 1992.(Epitaphs-Maine) available at Ipswich MA Library.

"Records of Lower St. Georges & Cushing, Maine 1605-1897. Transcribed and Edited by Ruth J. Aiken; Pub. Cushing, ME:Driftwood Farm, 1987. 1807-ARTEMAS WHITNEY [elected] Selectman. 1823- State Election-HENRY WHITNEY received 18 votes for Senator. 1854-State Election- LEVY WHITNEY received 7 votes for Senator. 1855-WILLIAM E. WHITNEY of Thomaston sues the town. On September 20, at a Special Town Meeting the townspeople "voted to go to court", but requested the selectmen to "attempt an equitable settlement".[out of court settlement accomplished, issue was not spelled out] 1894-Cushing-State elections- ERASTUS F. WHITNEY recived one vote for State Legislator.

Bucksport[ME] Vital Records.Vol.I, 1700-1800. D. Hoffman, Cay-Bel Pub. Co.1982. Page 407:May 20, 1816, NATHAN WHITNEY of Hampden, intention of marriage to Polly Atwood of Buckstown.

"Cumberland Maine in Four Centuries", compiled & edited by Phyllis Sturdivant Sweetser; pub. by the Town of Cumberland, 1976. Casco Printing Co. Portland, ME. Page 228 reprint of "Hutchinson photgraph, 1964"-"Evening Express, Friday May 8, 1964" "ORRIN WHITNEY homestead at 549 Range Road in West Cumberland can be traced back over a century and a half and was probably constructed during the last of the American Revolution. It was later owned by Walter Morrill, who was a veteran of the Civil War. The property comprises 110 acres and extends from the Gray Road to the Cumberland Fairgrounds."

Bangor Historical Magazine. Pub. Joseph W. Porter, Bangor, ME. Vol. II, 1886-1887 Pg.390: "Settlers in the Plantation Jackson", STEPHEN WHITNEY, JABEZ WHITNEY.

       "Settlers in the Plantation Lincoln, now Thorndike", SAMUEL WHITNEY.

PG. 245: Diary of Hon.Francis Car of Bangor, member of Congress 1812-1813. "June 26,1812, sent President's message on the War to --- SAMUEL K. WHITNEY[among other names}. Vol.III Pg.575-576: "Monson, Maine" by John F. Sprague, Esquire. "This year[1819] Amasa Chapin, of Monson, Mass., purchased of the trustees of Monson Academy[Mass.], one mile square of land in the east half of the township, and moved temporarily into No. 7,(now Abbot) where he resided until the spring of 1820, when he then settled on his land in this township. He was followed in the same spring by CAPT. SAMUEL WHITNEY, Justin Colton, Wm.A.Hyde, Calvin Colton, Lucius Hyde, Royal Day, Austin Newell, and Horatio Sherman, all of the same town, and who settled here and became permanent citizens." Vol.IV Pg. 739: 1815 United States Direct Tax on estates valued at over $3000-Lincolnville Maine, SAMUEL A. WHITNEY-estate valued at $6,264. Pg. 819: "Intentions of Marriage, Brunswick, Maine, 1740-1764". 1760, Feb.9, SAMUEL WHITNEY JR. and Mary Aston(Austin). 1761, Sept.30, JONATHAN WHITNEY and Mary Henden ?[their printed question mark].

Pg. 817: 1851, Mar.16, BENJAMIN WHITNEY and Jean Brown of Georgetown, Maine.

"Baptisms and Admission From The Records of First Church in Falmouth, now Portland, Maine." Compiled by Marquis F. King ; Pub. Maine Genealogical Society, Portland, Maine, 1898. Pg. 107; WHITNEY, ZEBULON, of MOSES, Dec.7,1766.

        WHITNEY, MARY, of -----, of Gorham, Dec.14,1766.

"Down East Ancestry", Vol. 5, June 1981. "Some Early Buxton, Maine Marriages, 1764-1786." Pg.143: Gibbons Elden and SUSANNA WHITNEY, 5 July, 1781. Pg. 144: Lemuel Rounds of Buxton and MOLLY WHITNEY of Gorham, 26 July, 1781.

        EBENEZER WHITNEY and Widow Sarah Thompson, 25 Nov.1779.

End of Miscellaneous Notes


Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 21:06:57 -0400 (EDT) To: whitney-L@rootsweb.com From: janwhit@MA.ultranet.com (Janice Whitaker) Subject: Correction-Maine Whitney Notes

Sorry for my error: Under Intentions of Marriage, Brunswick, ME, Benjamin Whitney and Jean Brown of Georgetown should read 1751, Mar. 16.[not 1851].


Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 19:27:47 -0700 From: Paul and Brenda Nichols <pauli007@pacbell.net> To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: JABEZ WHITNEY, FWD

> > Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 09:04:59 -0400 (EDT) > From: KTrouvat@aol.com > Subject: WHITNEY,Jabez ME-1780>IL-1804 > > Would like to hear from anyone researching the line of: > > Jabez WHITNEY > born 22 Mar 1780 (of) N. Yarmouth,ME > died11839 ,Adams co.,IL > Marr: 11 Mar 1804 to Abigail Milk WHEELER > Children: > 1.Joseph I. WHITNEY 1806 > � 2.Lydia WHITNEY 1806 > � 3.Thankful WHITNEY 1809 > 4.Lucinda WHITNEY 1810 > 5.Mary WHITNEY 1811 > 6.Ann WHITNEY 1812 > 7.John WHITNEY 1819 > 8.Ebsey WHITNEY 1820 > 9.Miranda WHITNEY 1821 > > >

From: "Roger, Carolyn or Randy Winch" <gumby@edge.net> To: "Whitney Family discussion list" <Whitney-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Fw: Whitney Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 21:31:06 -0500


Original Message-----

From: Gertty101@aol.com <Gertty101@aol.com>

To: gumby@edge.net <gumby@edge.net> Date: Saturday, October 04, 1997 5:08 PM Subject: Whitney


>I am interested in researching a Whitney branch of my family. Mary Fidella >Whitney, b.1/5/1862, in Darrien, CT. She died 4/3/1936, in Adams, MA. She >was married to my great-grandfather, Paul Strange, in Marysville, KS. Any >help would be appreciated. > > Thought I'd pass this along.

Randy

From: ALLAGREEN@aol.com Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 03:31:42 -0400 (EDT) To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: SUCCESS AT LAST AGAIN!

Dear WRG:

Thanks to Randy, I now have a much cleaner copy of Whitney12, without all the extra lines of notes that were not meaningful. I will compress the PAF3 datafile and send it to anyone who wants it - I'll send it to Robin, Jeanne and Karen as they have asked for it already. I'll let Randy announce whether he will substitute this one for the previous zipped gedcom file that he put on the Rootsweb ftp site.

No more for tonight - it's 3:30 AM and I have just finished watching the taped replay of the Kentucky - Alabama football game. Some of you may remember that I have previously spoken with some pride about the activities of the UK basketball team. I can now make a similar statement about their football team. After getting fairly thoroughly drubbed last week by #1 Florida, the Wildcats eked out a 40 - 34 win over Alabama tonight in overtime. This is the FIRST Ky win over Alabama in 75 years.

More tomorrow.

Allan

From: "Roger, Carolyn or Randy Winch" <gumby@edge.net> To: "Whitney Family discussion list" <Whitney-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Revised witpaf3.zip Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 02:45:04 -0500

Hi All,

I've placed the file that Allen spoke of at ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/gumby/witpaf3.zip

Randy Winch

From: AwhitneyB@aol.com Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 11:22:33 -0400 (EDT) To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Ezra Whitney, VT, 1759

The discussion about the Ezras has been interesting to me. I am always astounded by Mr. Ward's helpfulness and seemingly bottomless well of Whitney source information. I originally posted Tim Doyle's web page address in the hope it might help me to identify another enigmatic Ezra, my g3grandfather. Family tradition has it that his name was Ezra Leonard Whitney, but I have no proof of this. I only know that he died sometime between 1847 and 1850, that he married a woman named Julia who was born in New Hampshire, abt. 1804, and had at least four children in New York state: William Whitney, b. 1840 Juliet Whitney, b. 1842 Leonard Ezra Whitney, b. 7 Feb 1843 m. Sarah Jane Bearrs, 1865. Nancy J. Whitney, b. abt. 1847 In 1850 Julia and these four children were living in Allegan County, MI.

Both sons seved in the Civil War. The census record is my only source for

her data. Because of Julia's age, it seems likely there were earlier children. In the IGI I found a reference to an Ezra Whitney who married in 1823 in New Castle, Rockingham, New Hampshire. Name of spouse not given, but this is a possibility because the time seems about right. Another possibility, because of the Allegan County, MI, connection, is that this was Ezra, son of James, brother of Zerah and the other Whitneys who settled in Allegan County.( see Allan Green's line). I also have about 20 other Ezras who could be this man! If anyone has any suggestions on how I might identify this Ezra, I would be grateful. Thank you. A. Whitney Brown.

Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 18:02:54 To: MManroe@aol.com, WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Witney12 Problem

At 05:22 AM 9/12/97 -0400, you wrote: >In the little that I was able to get to I found that my Alice Whitney, >married to Nathaniel Woods, was not listed as the child of Joshua, the son of >John and Elinor. Is there a problem?

The analysis is an interesting exercise. Joshua-2 WHITNEY named in his will, among others, "my five daughters now living, Mary PEIRCE, Elenor SHEPARD, Sarah JUELL, Martha WILLIAMS, and Elizabeth FARNWORTH"; eldest daughter HUTCHINS's children; and eldest daughter, wife of Thomas WOODS, having received her portion. Alice, wife of Nathaniel WOODS was living at the date of this will, 17 Apr 1713. It seems impossible that she was a daughter of Joshua WHITNEY. No other credible evidence either in favor or against this identification has been found so far, as far as I know. I conclude that Alice (-----) WOODS is very unlikely to be a daughter of Joshua WHITNEY, although Nathaniel's brother Thomas WOODS did marry Hannah WHITNEY, daughter of Joshua.

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 19:21:18 -0400 From: Jeanne Muse <JWMUSE@compuserve.com> Subject: Alice Whitney? Woods Sender: Jeanne Muse <JWMUSE@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com" <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com>,

       Mary Jean Manroe <mmanroe@aol.com>

Robert and all: Joshua Whitney's will may have been dated in 1713, but he didn't die until 1719.

Joshua Whitney's gravestone indicates that he died August 7th, 1719. See an actual photograph of his grave on this web site from Allan Gilbertson (another fellow researcher):

jw_gs.jpg

>>I conclude that Alice (-----) WOODS is very unlikely to be a daughter of Joshua WHITNEY, although Nathaniel's brother Thomas WOODS did marry Hannah WHITNEY, daughter of Joshua.<<

Since we have Alice's death date as 10 Jan 1717/1718, she WAS alive at the time Joshua wrote his will AND when he actually died.

Documents not yet found which might assist: The Will of Nathaniel Woods The Will of Alice (Whitney?) Woods The Will of Sarah (Brown) Woods The Will of Mary (Blanchard) Woods The Will of Jabez Brown (Sarah's father) if it is dated during the time Alice was married to Nathaniel Woods. The Will of John Blanchard (Mary's father) if it is dated during the time Alice was married to Nathaniel Woods.

I say this is not closed until some other documentation is found. Anyone else have ideas?

-) Jeanne



From: ALLAGREEN@aol.com Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 22:10:34 -0400 (EDT) To: akh@molalla.net, Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: SUCCESS AT LAST!!!

Alice: (and WRG)

As frequently happens, I started this as a response to Alice Harris, and about half way through it, realized that it probably needed to be sent to everyone.

I don't wonder at the confusion. The problems we have had have been many, and the efforts at solving them also have multiplied. The story is this.

Jon's first gedcom had an error in it, as far as people who use Personal Ancestral File (PAF) were concerned. One person, #7029 in the gedcom, had no name and no sex attached. Family Tree for Windows (FTW) seems to ignore this problem and so everyone who used that program was able to import the gedcom successfully. However, PAF stopped with an error message when every PAF user got to that record.

I consulted with the Tech Support people at Salt Lake City and they gave me some suggestions, and Jon did several more versions for me, trying to get past the problem. Finally, Randy Winch brilliantly decided to go look at the gedcom at the point of the problem, i.e., record #7028/7029, and found the missing name and sex problem. He then inserted a name and sex lines into the gedcom and posted it to his Rootsweb ftp site, where I downloaded it. It converted successfully and I got all the people and marriages I was supposed to. The problem was, however, that he had (reasonably - he was not involved in the process of trying to tailor things for PAF that Jon and I had undergone) done his in the FTW format - and when I imported the gedcom, I ended up with a huge file full of notes that all said "XXX was not identified in the gedcom". It seems that FTW has a couple of elements in their gedcoms that PAF doesn't use, so EVERY file that had children had a sex tag for each child appearing in my PAF as a 2 line note.

Ultimately, Randy produced another one for me, tailored to PAF, and almost all of that stuff disappeared. The first file was 5.75 Megabytes long, the second just a little over 4.1 Megabytes, so that is what I now have, and it seems like I did get all the notes and sources, which was the reason for all the concern. Those who use FTW or the Master Genealogist or other programs were happy with what Jon put out in the first place, and the dozen or so of us who use PAF can now be happy as well. I have zipped the actual data file for sending out as an attachment to PAF users, so they won't even have to convert a gedcom. Alternatively, Randy has placed the PAF specific version on the Rootsweb ftp site, and so anyone can download it from there, and then convert it to a datafile themselves.

I hope this clears up the confusion. My first preliminary HOORAY was for getting ANY file to work, and then when I found out about the problems with it, Randy and I fixed things, and that led to the second HOORAY AGAIN message.

Happy Hunting to all :-)

Allan GENEALOGICAL TRUTH FOR TODAY: Your ancestors hated all governments and never filled out any forms at all.

From: BBova2332@aol.com Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 01:02:18 -0400 (EDT) To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: My Whitney Lines

Hi! I am new to this list and wanted to post my data - I apologize if this is too long, not sure how long it actually is. I am looking for ancestors, decendants and cousins.

Descendants of Robert Whitney Generation No. 1

1. ROBERT WHITNEY.

More About ROBERT1 WHITNEY:

1553, Knighted by Queen Mary
    Child of ROBERT1 WHITNEY is:

2. i. THOMAS WHITNEY2, d. Apr 1637.

Generation No. 2

2. THOMAS2 WHITNEY (ROBERT1) died Apr 16372. He married MARY BRAY May 12, 1583 in St. Margaret's, London, England, daughter of JOHN BRAY and MARGARET.

More About THOMAS WHITNEY: Occupation: Gentleman

    Children of THOMAS WHITNEY and MARY BRAY are:
    i.   MARGARET3 WHITNEY.
    ii.  THOMAS WHITNEY.
    iii. HENRY WHITNEY.
    iv.  ARNWAYE WHITNEY.

3. v. JOHN WHITNEY, b. Abt. 1589, Isleworth-OnThames, England; d. Jun 01, 1673, Watertown, MA.

    vi.  NOWELL WHITNEY.
    vii. FRANCIS WHITNEY, d. 1643, Westminster, England4.
    viii.     MARY WHITNEY.
    ix.  ROBERT WHITNEY, d. 1662, St. Peter's, Cornhill, London, England.

Generation No. 3

3. JOHN3 WHITNEY (THOMAS2, ROBERT1) was born Abt. 1589 in Isleworth-OnThames, England, and died Jun 01, 1673 in Watertown, MA. He married (1) ELINOR in England. He married (2) JUDITH CLEMENT Sep 29, 1659 in Watertown, MA.

More About JOHN WHITNEY:

Jun 1635, Immigrated from England to Watertown, MA
Jul 20, 1592, Baptized at St. Margaret's, London, England
    Children of JOHN WHITNEY and ELINOR are:
    i.   MARY4 WHITNEY, b. Abt. May 23, 1619, England.

4. ii. JOHN WHITNEY, b. 1620, England.

    iii. RICHARD WHITNEY, b. 1626, England; m. MARTHA COLDAM.
    iv.  NATHANIEL WHITNEY, b. 1627, England.
    v.   THOMAS WHITNEY, b. 1629, England; m. MARY KEDALL.

5. vi. JONATHAN WHITNEY, b. 1634, Isleworth-OnThames, England; d. Jan 01, 1701/02, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA.

    vii. JOSHUA WHITNEY, b. Jul 15, 1635.

Notes for JOSHUA WHITNEY: Jul 05, 1635 is listed as date of birth in "Whitney:The Descendants of John Whitney who Came From London, England to Watertown, Massachusetts in 1635" by Frederick Clifton Pierce

    viii.     CALEB WHITNEY, b. Jul 12, 1640, Watertown, MA.; d. Abt. Aug 12, 1640,

Watertown, MA..

More About CALEB WHITNEY: Burial: Aug 12, 1640

    ix.  BENJAMIN WHITNEY, b. Jun 06, 1643, Watertown, MA; m. (1) JANE; m. (2)

MARY POOR.

Generation No. 4

4. JOHN4 WHITNEY (JOHN3, THOMAS2, ROBERT1) was born 1620 in England. He married RUTH REYNOLDS.

    Children of JOHN WHITNEY and RUTH REYNOLDS are:
    i.   JOHN5 WHITNEY, b. Sep 17, 1643.
    ii.  RUTH WHITNEY, b. Apr 15, 1645.
    iii. NATHANELL WHITNEY, b. Feb 01, 1646/47.
    iv.  SAMUEL WHITNEY, b. Jul 28, 1648.
    v.   MARY WHITNEY, b. Apr 23, 1650.

6. vi. SARAH WHITNEY, b. Mar 17, 1652/53; d. Jun 08, 1720.

5. JONATHAN4 WHITNEY (JOHN3, THOMAS2, ROBERT1) was born 1634 in Isleworth-OnThames, England, and died Jan 01, 1701/02 in Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA. He married LYDIA JONES Oct 30, 1656 in Watertown, MA, daughter of LEWIS JONES and ANNA STONE.

More About JONATHAN WHITNEY: Reside: 1679, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA

    Child of JONATHAN WHITNEY and LYDIA JONES is:

7. i. LYDIA5 WHITNEY, b. Jul 03, 1657, Watertown, Middlesex Co., MA.; d. May 27, 1724, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA..

Generation No. 5

6. SARAH5 WHITNEY (JOHN4, JOHN3, THOMAS2, ROBERT1) was born Mar 17, 1652/53, and died Jun 08, 1720. She married DANIEL HARRINGTON Dec 18, 1681.

    Children of SARAH WHITNEY and DANIEL HARRINGTON are:

8. i. SARAH6 HARRINGTON, b. Oct 28, 1693.

    ii.  DANIEL HARRINGTON, b. Feb 24, 1682/8326.

7. LYDIA5 WHITNEY (JONATHAN4, JOHN3, THOMAS2, ROBERT1) was born Jul 03, 1657 in Watertown, Middlesex Co., MA., and died May 27, 1724 in Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA.. She married MOSES ADAMS Apr 15, 1681 in Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA., son of HENRY ADAMS and ELIZABETH PAINE.


Notes for MOSES ADAMS: Probably inherited his father's land, in Sherborn, situated on Wennekeening Brook, and now in Hol. He seems to have had his house lot of 20

acres assigned him on Chesnut Brook, where he undoubtedly lived. He was tythingman 1696, and selectman 1701, drew land in Douglas 1715.


    Children of LYDIA WHITNEY and MOSES ADAMS are:

9. i. BENONI6 ADAMS, b. Nov 03, 1681, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA.. 10. ii. LYDIA ADAMS, b. Feb 02, 1683/84, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA..

    iii. ELIZABETH ADAMS, b. Sep 18, 1686, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA.; d. Jun

17, 1689, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA.. 11. iv. HANNAH ADAMS, b. Feb 08, 1687/88, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA.; d. Jul 21, 1718.

    v.   ELIZABETH ADAMS, b. Oct 25, 1689, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA.; m.

DANIEL RIDER, May 16, 1711. 12. vi. MOSES ADAMS, b. Nov 26, 1691, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA.; d. Bef. 1730. 13. vii. JAMES ADAMS, b. Jul 07, 1693, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA.. 14. viii. ISAAC ADAMS, b. Mar 04, 1694/95, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA.; d. Jun 05, 1730, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA..

    ix.  ABIGAIL ADAMS, b. Sep 07, 1697, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA.; m.

NATHANIEL PERRY.

Generation No. 6

8. SARAH6 HARRINGTON (SARAH5 WHITNEY, JOHN4, JOHN3, THOMAS2, ROBERT1) was born Oct 28, 1693. She married NATHANIEL LIVERMORE Jan 11, 1710/11 in Watertown, Middlesex Co., MA., son of SAMUEL LIVERMORE and ANNA BRIDGE.


More About NATHANIEL LIVERMORE: Cause of Death: killed by the fall of a tree

    Child of SARAH HARRINGTON and NATHANIEL LIVERMORE is:
    i.   SARAH7 LIVERMORE, b. Oct 22, 1711, Watertown, Middlesex Co., MA.; m.

RICHARD HOBBS, Jun 30, 1732, Boston, MA.

9. BENONI6 ADAMS (LYDIA5 WHITNEY, JONATHAN4, JOHN3, THOMAS2, ROBERT1) was born Nov 03, 1681 in Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA.. He married MARY.


    Children of BENONI ADAMS and MARY are:
    i.   ASA7 ADAMS, b. Mar 15, 1724/25, Holliston, Middlesex Co., MA.; m. RUTH

PARKER, Jun 29, 1740.

    ii.  DANIEL ADAMS, b. Jan 21, 1726/27, Holliston, Middlesex Co., MA..
    iii. DAVID ADAMS, b. Aug 06, 1729, Holliston, Middlesex Co., MA.; d. Sep 17,

1729, Holliston, Middlesex Co., MA..

    iv.  ISAAC ADAMS, b. Dec 15, 1733, Holliston, Middlesex Co., MA..
    v.   SARAH ADAMS, b. Mar 06, 1734/35, Holliston, Middlesex Co., MA..

10. LYDIA6 ADAMS (LYDIA5 WHITNEY, JONATHAN4, JOHN3, THOMAS2, ROBERT1) was born Feb 02, 1683/84 in Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA. She married JOHN FISKE Jul 31, 1706 in Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA., son of NATHANIEL FISKE and MARY WARREN.

    Children of LYDIA ADAMS and JOHN FISKE are:
    i.   NATHANIEL7 FISKE.
    ii.  JOHN FISKE, b. 1709.
    iii. LYDIA FISKE, b. 1712.
    iv.  ISAAC FISKE, b. Aug 24, 1714; m. HANNAH HAVEN, Nov 11, 1736.

More About ISAAC FISKE: Reside: Framingham, MA. Occupation: Weaver

More About HANNAH HAVEN: Occupation: Teacher

    v.   DANIEL FISKE, b. 1716.
    vi.  LYDIA FISKE, b. 1721.
    vii. PETER FISKE, b. Mar 12, 1722/23, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA.; d.

Unknown; m. SARAH PERRY, Nov 15, 1758, Grafton, MA.

More About PETER FISKE: Reside: Grafton and Warwick, MA

    viii.     ABIGAIL FISKE, b. 1727.

11. HANNAH6 ADAMS (LYDIA5 WHITNEY, JONATHAN4, JOHN3, THOMAS2, ROBERT1) was born Feb 08, 1687/88 in Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA., and died Jul 21, 1718.

She married NATHANIEL FISKE Jan 16, 1705/06 in Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA.,

son of NATHANIEL FISKE and MARY WARREN.


    Children of HANNAH ADAMS and NATHANIEL FISKE are:
    i.   ASA7 FISKE, b. Feb 22, 1707/08, Watertown, MA.; d. Bef. Jan 08, 1771; m.

LOIS LELAND.

    ii.  HANNAH FISKE, b. Sep 09, 1710.
    iii. MOSES FISKE.
    iv.  LYDIA FISKE.

12. MOSES6 ADAMS (LYDIA5 WHITNEY, JONATHAN4, JOHN3, THOMAS2, ROBERT1) was born Nov 26, 1691 in Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA., and died Bef. 1730. He married DEBORAH SAWIN Mar 27, 1716.


    Children of MOSES ADAMS and DEBORAH SAWIN are:
    i.   MOSES7 ADAMS, b. Dec 14, 1716, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA.; d. Dec 17,

1716, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA..

    ii.  MOSES ADAMS, b. Feb 27, 1719/20, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA.; d. Sep

04, 1721, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA..

    iii. MOSES ADAMS, b. Abt. 1721, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA.; d. Jul 23,

1756.

13. JAMES6 ADAMS (LYDIA5 WHITNEY, JONATHAN4, JOHN3, THOMAS2, ROBERT1) was born Jul 07, 1693 in Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA.. He married ABIGAIL HILL, daughter of JOHN HILL.


    Children of JAMES ADAMS and ABIGAIL HILL are:
    i.   JAMES7 ADAMS, b. Mar 13, 1714/15, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA.; m.

REBECCA.

    ii.  ABIGAIL ADAMS, b. Mar 03, 1716/17, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA.; m.

SAMUEL WARFIELD, Mar 13, 1732/33, Mendon, Worcester Co., MA..

    iii. ELIZABETH ADAMS, b. Sep 04, 1719, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA.; m.

ELISHA ROCKWOOD.

More About ELISHA ROCKWOOD: Reside: Groton, MA.

    iv.  HANNAH ADAMS, b. Jan 21, 1723/24, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA..
    v.   MOSES ADAMS, b. Apr 27, 1726, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA.; m. (1)

HEPSEBATH DEATH; m. (2) MARY.

    vi.  JOHN ADAMS, b. Sep 08, 1728, Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA.; d. Jun 21,

1744.

14. ISAAC6 ADAMS (LYDIA5 WHITNEY, JONATHAN4, JOHN3, THOMAS2, ROBERT1) was born Mar 04, 1694/95 in Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA., and died Jun 05, 1730 in Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA.. He married MARTHA.


    Children of ISAAC ADAMS and MARTHA are:
    i.   MARTHA7 ADAMS, b. Jul 10, 1723, Holliston, Middlesex Co., MA..
    ii.  ELIZABETH ADAMS, b. Jan 17, 1724/25, Holliston, Middlesex Co., MA..
    iii. ABIGAIL ADAMS, b. Mar 04, 1726/27, Holliston, Middlesex Co., MA..
    iv.  HEPSEBATH ADAMS, b. Jun 08, 1729, Holliston, Middlesex Co., MA..


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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 02:14:43 -0400 From: "Vickie (Elam) White" <102657.1616@compuserve.com> Subject: Alice Whitney? Woods Sender: "Vickie (Elam) White" <102657.1616@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com" <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com>

Jeanne (Whitney) Muse wrote (quoting Robert Ward) --

<<< I conclude that Alice (-----) WOODS is very unlikely to be a daughter of >>>Joshua WHITNEY, although Nathaniel's brother Thomas WOODS did marry Hannah >>>WHITNEY, daughter of Joshua. > >Since we have Alice's death date as 10 Jan 1717/1718, she WAS alive at the >time Joshua wrote his will AND when he actually died.

Joshua WHITNEY's will plainly said he had 5 living daughters in 1713.

The following is quite long, and I apologize. I am attempting to work on the Alice (WHITNEY?) WOODS problem, but also on the other known daughters of Joshua WHITNEY.

If the transcript I have of Joshua's will is correct, it is confusing because he called both Hannah (WHITNEY) WOODS [wife of Thomas WOODS] and Abigail (WHITNEY) HUTCHINS his eldest daughter. I have since found out that Abigail died in 1705/6 and Hannah was not among the named living daughters so must have been dead by 1713.

Torrey and Savage give no birthdates for Abigail and Hannah WHITNEY. It seems to be generally accepted that Hannah was the older of the two, but I don't really know what proof is offered. Hannah was supposedly Joshua's daughter by his first wife, Lydia ____, whom he married by 1666. Joshua was born in 1635, and men were usually in their mid-to-late twenties when they married in those days. So I wouldn't be surprised if he had married about 1662. His son Joshua Jr. was born in 1665, and daughter Sarah was born in 1668. Joshua's second wife Mary died on 17 Mar 1672. Unfortunately we don't know when Joshua and Mary were married, just that it was between 1668 and 1672. So, Hannah could have been born before 1665 or after 1668. Not too precise, huh? <G> We could do a bit of speculation, though. Hannah had married Thomas WOODS by 1697 (based on the birth of their daughter Esther). However, they had a daughter named Abigail whose birthdate is unknown but which was probably about 1693 - 1695 because she got married in 1713. So, if Hannah and Thomas married about 1692 - 1694, a birthdate of 1670 - 1672 for Hannah would not be out of line. I wonder if Joshua's first wife Lydia died while giving birth to Hannah? Or if Hannah was actually Mary's daughter, not Lydia's?

Ah, speculation is fun isn't it? <G>

Supposedly, Joshua's daughter Abigail was born about 1673, probably his first child by third wife Abigail TARBELL. I believe the source for this date was Burke's Prominent Families of the United States of America, pg. 330. But I could be wrong about that. I'd really like to nail down their birthdates a bit, but I don't have access to the Watertown VRs and their births aren't recorded in the Groton VRs. This was a period of tremendous upheaval in the Groton area, with Indian raids necessitating the removal of citizens to cities further east. It's no wonder that some events never made it into the town records. <G>

NEHGR 11 (1857), pp. 116-117, "The Descendants of John and Elinor Whitney, of Watertown, Mass" by H.A.Whitney says:

     JOSHUA WHITNEY, of 1 Groton, 2 Watertown. Wives:--

56. 1. LYDIA, 57. 2. MARY, who died March 17, 1671-2; 58. 3. ABIGAIL TARBALL, Sept. 30, 1672, in Watertown.

His will made April 17, 1713; proved Oct. 6, 1719.

issue:

59. I. Hannah, m. Thos. Woods of Groton. (4 chn.) 60. II. Joshua, b. June 14, 1666, in Goton, by wife Lydia. 61. III. Sarah, b. Oct. 10, 1668, in Groton; m. ___ Juell. 62. IV. Abigail, m. John Hutchins. (5 chn.) 63. V. Mary, b. July 1, 1675, in Groton; m. Ephraim Pierce.

                  (9 chn)

64. VI. William, b. Feb. 28, 1678. 65. VII. Cornelius 66. VIII, David, 67. IX. Martha, m. Isaac Williams, Jr., of Newton. (8 chn.) 68. X. Elizabeth, m. Eben Farnsworth. (8 chn.) 69. XI. Eleanor, m. ____ Shepherd.

Plus, I found a little additional info from some lineages contained in the back of the Littleton MA vital records book. I didn't get a look at the actual Littleton VRs, though. Who knows where the author got his facts for these lineages, but they are certainly worth investigating. I have found, when checking them against other records during my own research, that many of them were quite accurate, so you never know... <G>

According to the Littleton MA book, Sarah WHITNEY married Nathaniel JEWELL in Groton on 11 Jul 1704. However, the Groton VRs don't show this marriage. Now, that would have made her about 36 years old at the time of her first marriage. That is rather unusual for that era. I still wonder if it was actually her second marriage. Anyway, it looks as though they moved to Plainfield CT, near her brother Joshua Jr. Several folks seemed to assume that she remarried to someone named TAYLOR because Joshua Jr.'s 1753 will mentions a Sarah TAYLOR. But I believe there are no relationships stated in the will, so it isn't safe to assume that she was his sister.

And Elenor WHITNEY supposedly married Samuel SHEPARD, who was Nathaniel JEWELL's half-brother. Samuel was born between 1667 (the year his parents married) and 1676 (the year his father died). But I haven't been able to find a record of his birthdate or of his marriage to Elenor. No date for Elenor's birth, either. As mentioned above, it is assumed that Abigail was born ca 1673. According to the Groton VRs, Mary was born in 1675. And William was born in Watertown in 1678. Then the VRs don't record any more births so we need to start guestimating. It looks like most researchers list Cornelius' birthdate as 1680, David's as 1682, Martha's as 1684, and Elizabeth's as 1686. Where would Elenor fit in?

Which brings me to the main reason for my interest in Joshua WHITNEY's daughters. Lots of researchers say that Nathaniel WOODS married an Eleanor, then an Alice WHITNEY (daughter of Joshua), who died on 10 Jan 1717/8 in her 45th year, then two other women. This would mean she was born ca 1673. I have some reason to suspect that Eleanor and Alice were the same person. But was she really a WHITNEY?

I haven't seen any evidence that Joshua WHITNEY had a daughter named Alice, but he obviously did have a daughter named Elenor. Could Samuel SHEPARD have died after 1713 (the date of Joshua WHITNEY's will) and Elenor remarry to Nathaniel WOODS? The two families were acquainted, both because they both lived in Groton and because Elenor's sister Hannah married Nathaniel's brother Thomas WOODS.

Big problem with that, though. And if she did remarry to Nathaniel WOODS sometime after 1713, then she wasn't the mother of his children. I believe there is strong evidence that the same woman was the mother of all of Nathaniel WOODS' children, born between 1694 and 1715. *All* of the Groton civil records say that the mother of Nathaniel WOODS' children was "Alles."

Out of 12 children, the only mentions of an Eleanor as the mother were

four baptismal records in 1707,1708, 1709 and 1711. The children born/baptized before and after these four were listed as the children of Alles. I strongly suspect this is a clerical error. Perhaps further investigation of the original church records for 1707-1711 would show that there was a different person recording names? <G>

Also, there is no death record in Groton for an Eleanor WOODS, wife of Nathaniel. The only one is for Alice. And Savage never mentions a wife Eleanor for Nathaniel WOODS. Surely he examined Bond, so he must have concluded that Bond was wrong.

OK, so why was Alice said to be a WHITNEY? I don't have access to the original Torrey manuscripts, but I suspect that he got the info from Bond's Genealogies of the Families and Descendants of the Early Settlers of Watertown. I haven't seen it personally, but someone sent me an excerpt. On pg. 644 (not sure which volume) it says "dr. Woods, mentioned in her father's Will; perhaps Alice, wife of Nathaniel Woods, of Groton; 12 chil." Well, this was plainly Hannah WHITNEY, wife of Thomas WOODS. Joshua WHITNEY's will calls her "eldest daughter, wife to Thomas WOODS, who had received her portion." It's confusing, and I wish I could find an original copy of the will so I could see the wording myself. According to the Groton VRs, Thomas WOODS was married to Elizabeth ____ until her death in 1688. His next wife was named Hannah. Ergo, Hannah WHITNEY. <G> I'm really not sure why anyone got the idea that Alice (--) WOODS was a WHITNEY.

I think all we can really say is that Nathaniel WOODS married Alice _____ as his first wife, that Alice was the mother of all of his children, and that he was married only 3 times rather than 4. And I personally think she was not a daughter of Joshua WHITNEY, mostly because Joshua didn't name her as one of his 5 living daughters in 1713.

It is tough to review these age-old lineages! They have been in print for so long that they've been included in tons of *other* genealogies. It just goes on and on... <G>

Boy, I really have rambled on here. Sorry! I hope other descendants of the WOODS and WHITNEY families will chime in here. Thanks for listening. <G>


Vickie (Elam) White 102657.1616@compuserve.com

From: "Ann O'Hara" <yannster@ptd.net> To: <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Charity Foote Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:48:06 -0400

I'm new to this list and know little about Whitneys, but my gggrandfather's obituary said he belonged to a branch of the family. His mother was Charity Foote, daughter of Daniel Foote and Sarah Whitney. Charity was born 21 June 1752 and died 23 Nov. 1826. She married first Elias Bristol and second Samuel Sanford. I am descended from Charity and both her husbands (a neat trick) and would love to know more about her family. Has anyone heard of her? Ann O'Hara


Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 21:30:21 To: "Vickie (Elam) White" <102657.1616@compuserve.com> From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Alice Whitney? Woods Cc: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com

Vickie,

At 02:14 AM 10/6/97 -0400, you wrote: >If the transcript I have of Joshua's will is correct, it is confusing >because he called both Hannah (WHITNEY) WOODS [wife of Thomas WOODS] and >Abigail (WHITNEY) HUTCHINS his eldest daughter. I have since found out >that Abigail died in 1705/6 and Hannah was not among the named living >daughters so must have been dead by 1713. [SNIP] > It's confusing, and I wish I could find an original >copy of the will so I could see the wording myself.

I have seen a copy of the will on microfilm. It is available through your local LDS Family History Center: Middlesex County, MA, Probate Records, File #24703, Joshua WHITNEY, Groton, 1719. I abstracted it (not copied, since my ancestry is not through him. My abstract reads:

"Will, Joshua WHITNEY of Grotton, "aged about severy six years"

  Abigail, my now n[   ]ed wife
  son William WHITNEY, all housing & lands in Grotton
     his mother above
  above Abigail and William executors
  son Joshua WHITNEY, L30
  son Cornelous WHITNEY
  son David WHITNEY
  my 5 dau. (now living):  Mary PEIRCE, Elenor SHEPARD, Sarah JUELL, Martha
     WILLIAMS, Elisabeth FARNWORTH
  eldest dau. HUTCHINSes children
     her eldest son John HUTCHINS, under 21
     the rest of her children, under 21
     her three daughters
  eldest dau., wife to Thomas Woods (received her portion)
  Dated:  17 Apr 1713
  Witnesses:  Jonathan BOWEN, Abraham MOORES, Samll. CUMMINGS
Executor's bond posted 6 Oct 1719
  Widow Abigail WHITNEY and William WHITNEY, yeoman, both of Groton"

I'm afraid that's the best I can do. I know it is conflicting information that says Abigail (WHITNEY) HUTCHINS and Hannah (WHITNEY) WOODS were both called "eldest dau." Perhaps I read it wrong, or perhaps it says that. Could they have been twins? Rent the film and read and copy it yourself.

You also wrote: > I'd really like to nail down their >birthdates a bit, but I don't have access to the Watertown VRs and their >births aren't recorded in the Groton VRs.

The WHITNEY items from the Watertown VRs are available online at:

  http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/mass/watertown.html

The only entries of interest to this discussion are:

  vol. 1, p. 35: Mary Whetny, w. Jofhuah Whetny, d. 17 Mar 1671
  vol. 1, p. 43: Willyam Whetny, s. Joshuah & Abigall, b. last of Feb 1677

The WHITNEY items from the Groton VRs are also available online at:

  http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/mass/watertown.html

The only entry germane to this discussion is:

  WHETNEY, Joshua, died Aug. 1, 1719 [a. 83y., G.R.2].

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 14:06:07 -0800 From: Melinda Cornwell <cornwell@alaska.net> To: WHITNEY-L <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: MA/NY Whitney's?

I've been lurking for sometime, hoping that I might discover a clue to two Whitney's within the families I am researching. That has not been the case, so with my meager info I present my info:

I have a Sarah WHITNEY who m. 16 Jan 1782 Hancock, Berkshire Co., MA to a Solomon BAKER (a Rev. War vet and b. 1752 Canterbury, CT). Solomon & Sarah moved to Granville, Washington Co., NY before 1790. They had 7 children, which only 6 are known to me. They are: Psyche (1785-1786); Solomon Jr (1792-1845); Stephen (1789-1843); Isaac W. (1792-1852)a twin to Solomon Jr; Ira (1794-1875) and William Edwin who d. 1828. Sarah either died before 1831 or she was divorced from Solomon before 1831, as he remarried in 1831 Hartford, CT to a Nancy Thorn. I have no further information on Sarah.

I also have a Clarissa WHITNEY who m. Solomon BAKER JR (listed above). She was executor of Solomon Jr.'s will in 1845. Some state census records indicate she was b. ca 1789 Rennsalaer Co., NY(1855 Solon, Cortland Co.,NY); other census records indicate b. 1790 NY. I have no further info on Clarissa.

The Baker family came out of Canterbury, CT, settled in Washington Co.NY where there was the following WHITNEY's who lived near them in the 1790's: Joshua, John, Cornelius, David & Joshua C. Whitney. I have been unable to verify that there is any connection with them & my Sarah. The Baker's eventually settled in Solon, Cortland Co., NY.

Sure would appreciate any help on Sarah Whitney. Do you have knowledge of this family? Melinda Cornwell cornwell@alaska.net

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From: "Alice Harris" <akh@molalla.net> To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 23:41:00 +0000 Subject: Persi at LDS FHCs

I originally sent this to NE Roots, Allan thought it might be useful for some of you Whitneys.

I have been corresponding with Dick Eastman of the ONLINE GENEALOGY NEWSLETTER which is very good. If anyone would like subscription info email me.

He recently had an article on the Updated Persi Files of Allen Co, Indiana Library . Below is an quote from his excellant article explaining it. But I think perhaps some who don't have access to internet, aren't near a private library that hasPersi, and can't afford the printed books might like to know that an older version is also available on microfiche at most of your local LDS Family History Centers. And it can be used for free.

>I had a chance to use the new CD-ROM version of PERSI this week >and am delighted with it. PERSI is an abbreviation for the >Periodical Source Index, which has been a standard high-quality >reference for genealogists for some time now. Until this year, >PERSI has been available only in printed books with a rather high >price tag. As a result, few private individuals could afford to >purchase PERSI, and only a few genealogy libraries were able to >justify the expense. Earlier this summer an online version was >introduced on the World Wide Web (see my August 9 newsletter for a >description of the Web version). The CD-ROM version is now available >at an attractive price.


Dick has a point. His newsletter is to introduce what is new. And the index at the FHCs isn't the newer updated version . It is indexed only up to 1993. But there is a wealth of knowledge lodged in the genealogical periodical articles listed in this index. And the FHCs are another place you can find to use it.

If anyone would like to see the rest of the article I would be happy to forward it to you. Dick also has a webpage where you can view past newsletter articles.

Alice Harris akh@molalla.net

From: ALLAGREEN@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 01:19:08 -0400 (EDT) To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Now, can we get 12 for the Mac

Dear WRG:

Now that we PAF'ers have finally gotten our act together, Jan Whitaker, of MA Vital Record fame. typists cramp and of late, Maine records, has asked if anyone using a Mac with Reunion has successfully downloaded the Witney12 file and gotten the requisite 8467 individuals and 2939 marriages? If so, please contact Jan at

janwhit@MA.ultranet.com

with either advice or a file that can be transferred to her for her Reunion program.

Subject: Re: Now, can we get 12 for the Mac Date: Tue, 7 Oct 97 01:56:37 -0400 From: "Rebecca L. Taccone" <manicmood@netgsi.com> To: "Allan Green" <ALLAGREEN@aol.com>,

       "Whitney-L@rootsweb.com" <Whitney-L@rootsweb.com>

Dear Allan and Jan,

Just wanted you to know that I imported the revised Whitney12, complete "with all the fixin's" without a hitch using Reunion for Mac.

Many thanks for all your perseverence and effort!

Rebecca L. Taccone

Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 18:36:21 To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: WHITNEY Family Genealogy Pages

Dear WRG:

I have reorganized the web pages at my WHITNEY genealogy website, whose URL is:

 http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/index.html

I think your old links will still work, but I have made the index pages much shorter for faster loading, and moved some links to subsidiary pages.

If you haven't yet visited, please do so. The main categories are:

 Whitney Vital Records
 Some Whitney Wills
 Whitney Database
 Descendants of John and Elinor (-----) Whitney, first five generations
 Bibliography of Whitney family references
 Whitney Queries
 Lineages of Whitney Research Group members
 Corrections to Published Sources
 Census Records
 Two articles about the English ancestry of John and Henry WHITNEY
 Report on the DeSalis fraud about Henry WHITNEY's origins
 Famous Whitneys
 Eli Whitney, inventor of the cotton gin
 The U.S.S. Constitution and the Whitney family
 Other Whitney Pages

I warmly welcome additions to the Bibliography, Queriees, Lineages, and Other Pages parts. Check them out, and if you can add something, please drop me an e-mail.

NOTE: Please do not confuse my website with that containing the WHITNEY online database, maintained by Randy WINCH, at this URL:

 http://www.rootsweb.com/~gumby/genweb/Whitney/Whitney.html

created from a GEDCOM file maintained by Jon Aston. There is a link to that website from mine, but I do not own nor maintain that website, nor am I aware of the software that created it.

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 07:38:55 -0400 From: Bert Smith <OmniSmith@compuserve.com> Subject: Whitney12 on MAC Sender: Bert Smith <OmniSmith@compuserve.com> To: Whitney <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com>

Rebecca L. Taccone,

I too am a MAC and Reunion user. From which source did you download Whitney 12 gedcom? I couldn't find it on Randy Web Page.

Bert Smith (OmniSmith@Compuserve.com)

Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:45:28 To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Missing Link

Dear WRG:

The following link on my page no longer works. The URL is

  http://www.cyburban.com/~csmfox/whitney.htm

and the page contained pictures of a WHITNEY house in New York state.

Does anyone know whether this page still exists (and has moved) or if it no longer exists? If it exists, what is the new URL?

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

From: MManroe@aol.com Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:31:05 -0400 (EDT) To: <img src="/robertward.gif"> cc: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Alice Whitney

Robert, I have received several messages from different WRG people stating that Alice WHITNEY was not the daughter of Joshua WHITNEY and that she may not have been a WHITNEY. As this is the only WHITNEY in my line I have about given up this research.

I would like to unsubscribe for awhile in order to regroup and look for more data I can't find my copy of the unsubscribe info so I would appreciate it if you could let me know the proper procedure.

I am sending a copy of this to the group as I would like to thank everyone for the help you have all given me and all the hard work you have done to keep the WHITNEY group going.

Regards, Mary Manroe - MManroe@aol.com

Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 23:49:07 -0400 From: Ron & Marsha Bokleman <ninnie@ime.net> Organization: N/A To: whitney <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Asa Whitney

If anyone is interested in further information on Asa (1791-1874) and his conection to the railroads I will be happy to send what I have. Marsha

From: ALLAGREEN@aol.com Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 00:06:32 -0400 (EDT) To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Can do CD Lookups for a week/10 days

Dear WRG:

My good wife has brought home three new Family Archives CD's from the library for testing, and I'll have them for about a week or so before they have to go back. With the copyright laws, I cannot just copy the material and put it on the Net for all, but if you have an ancestor that you believe might appear in any of these, send me the names and their home states, if possible, and I'll send you back the information on an individual basis, not to the list. They are:

CD 351 Roll of Honor: Civil War Union Soldiers (Deaths) all 27 volumes of the cemetery listings of the burials of Union dead during the Civil War - 191,000 names with lots of Whitneys

CD 350 The Complete Book of Emigrants, 1607 - 1776 and The Complete Book of Emigrants in Bondage, 1614 - 1775 - originally six volumes

CD 162 Virginia Genealogies #1, pre-1600 to 1900's - pedigrees, etc., taken from the Virginia Magazine of History and Biography.

I already own:

CD 113 "273 Genealogy Books

This may be a good opportunity for some of our Southern Whitneys to see if their people are among these sources, especially CD 162. Remember, there were a number of units in the Union Army from that part of Virginia that then became West Virginia, so some of "y'All" may be in there.

Since I quit all the postings about converting Witney12 to PAF, things have quieted down on the list. Did everyone who needed the PAF converted file get it? If not, let me know and I'll send it to you. Remember, those of us eagerly awaiting more Maine stuff from Jan Whitaker, she's taking a couple of (well-deserved) weeks off to recharge batteries at the shore.

Happy Hunting!

Allan GENEALOGICAL TRUTH FOR TODAY: Blank genealogy forms [or software, for that matter] never have exactly the catagories or spaces you need. CORRELARY: All software packages look good, but immediately have a problem with "your" special case.

Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 09:46:42 +0000 From: Michael L Watts <mwatts@gate.net> To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Wheeler info fowarded to Whitney-L

Hi Cousins, I received this post from another newsgroup I sub to and thought someone would find this useful and maybe help the poster of the message. Mike Watts mwatts@gate.net

Subject:

            WHEELER, John b.abt 1750, ME

Date:

            Sat, 11 Oct 1997 06:22:10 -0400 (EDT)

From: KTrouvat@aol.com cc:WHEELER-L@rootsweb.com CCC: AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com

Would any WHEELER family researchers have connections to these folks? (Extracted from information kindly shared by another family researcher...)

John WHEELER born abt 1750 in ME?

      married June 1776

Mary (Mollie) INGRAHAM born 14 May 1755 in ,York,ME

Known child

1. Abigail Milk WHEELER born 12 Aug 1784 in ,York,ME
     married 11 Mar 1804
   Jabez WHITNEY born  22 Mar 1780  of N. Yarmouth,ME

Her children

 1.Joseph I. WHITNEY
 2.Lydia WHITNEY
 3.Thankful WHITNEY
 4.Lucinda WHITNEY
 5.Mary WHITNEY
 6.Ann WHITNEY
 7.John WHITNEY
 8.Ebsey WHITNEY

<< John Wheeler's first appearance in the records seems to be for the marriage banns and then the wedding in June 1776. The Wheelers were living at Chesterville, ME, at the time of their marriage. In December, 1776, he shipped as quartermaster aboard the Continental Ship of War Ranger under

John Paul Jones. At the return of Ranger to New England a year later, John appears to have resumed his occupation as a tailor.

<< Mollie died in 1814. John appears to have remarried, for in his 1818 application for a Rev. War pension, he names his wife as "Betsey" who appears to have had a young (teen) son. John died in 1843, age 93, at the home of his son-in-law, Jesse Hiscock. << John's daughter Abigail and husband Jabez Whitney were in Maine for the 1810 census, but by 1820 they had moved to Meigs County, Ohio, where they lived until about 1836/7. Then a large group of neighbors and relatives

moved from there to Adams County, Illinois. Jabez died in Adams Co., 1839/40. Abigail lived, I'm told, until sometime in the 1870s.>>

Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 16:49:02 To: PJGF35A@prodigy.com, tdoyle@just.doit.com, WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Whitney

<PJGF35A@prodigy.com> (MR JAMES S KASCH) wrote on Sat, 11 Oct 1997: >Robert, > Admittedly I'm writing this before I check out you web page, but >here is what I have in the Whitney line. >1] Ezra Whitney b Feb. 22, 1729/30 d Sept. 24, 1804 wed Agnes >Rositor > 2] Lucretia Whitney b Nov. 4, 1771 Mass. d Feb. 28, 1855 Allegany >co., NY wed > 1792 Providence Co., RI Vial Franklin b Aug. 8, 1774 Mass. d >April 27, 1833 Allegany co., > RI > 2] Moses Whitney > 2] Agnis Whitney

This is a family I discussed recently on the WHITNEY-L mailing list. Much of what was said can be seen on one of my web pages at:

 http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/correct.html#Ezra1785

Your data adds to what we know about the family, and ours adds to yours. Your Ezra was not born 22 Feb 1729/30, [Framingham, MA,] as you state above, but 24 Aug 1731, Harvard, MA.

What is the source of Agnes's maiden name ROSITOR you give above? I find it quite unusual that Lucretia WHITNEY, who lived in the 1780's in Rockingham, VT, should be married in 1792 in Providence, RI.

Whitney Research Group member Tim Doyle is a descendant of Lucretia's older brother, Ezra WHITNEY, Jr., b. 29 Nov 1760, Lunenburg, MA. I have included him my list of addressees above, as well as the Whitney Research Group itself.

Welcome, cousin! If you are interested in joining, send the message SUBSCRIBE to WHITNEY-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com, and sit back and wait for the messages to come rolling in.

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 16:49:02 To: PJGF35A@prodigy.com, tdoyle@just.doit.com, WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Whitney

<PJGF35A@prodigy.com> (MR JAMES S KASCH) wrote on Sat, 11 Oct 1997: >Robert, > Admittedly I'm writing this before I check out you web page, but >here is what I have in the Whitney line. >1] Ezra Whitney b Feb. 22, 1729/30 d Sept. 24, 1804 wed Agnes >Rositor > 2] Lucretia Whitney b Nov. 4, 1771 Mass. d Feb. 28, 1855 Allegany >co., NY wed > 1792 Providence Co., RI Vial Franklin b Aug. 8, 1774 Mass. d >April 27, 1833 Allegany co., > RI > 2] Moses Whitney > 2] Agnis Whitney

This is a family I discussed recently on the WHITNEY-L mailing list. Much of what was said can be seen on one of my web pages at:

 http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/correct.html#Ezra1785

Your data adds to what we know about the family, and ours adds to yours. Your Ezra was not born 22 Feb 1729/30, [Framingham, MA,] as you state above, but 24 Aug 1731, Harvard, MA.

What is the source of Agnes's maiden name ROSITOR you give above? I find it quite unusual that Lucretia WHITNEY, who lived in the 1780's in Rockingham, VT, should be married in 1792 in Providence, RI.

Whitney Research Group member Tim Doyle is a descendant of Lucretia's older brother, Ezra WHITNEY, Jr., b. 29 Nov 1760, Lunenburg, MA. I have included him my list of addressees above, as well as the Whitney Research Group itself.

Welcome, cousin! If you are interested in joining, send the message SUBSCRIBE to WHITNEY-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com, and sit back and wait for the messages to come rolling in.

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

From: mwverde@gmail.com Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 20:31:45 +0000 To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Vermont

Hi, all you Whitneys!!

Mine come from Poultney, Vermont and Deep River, Iowa. Ring any bells??

M. W. Green

Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 00:31:21 +0000 From: stately@MAIL2.LCIA.COM Organization: Stately Mansion Studio To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: hubbardston

Hi, I am doing research on my family line. I found you by typing "Hubbardston, Mass." under www. I hope there is someone on this line who lives in, or around Hubbardston, Mass. If so please contact me. thanks, Judy

PS. I am on the Clough-l list of rootsweb.

From: knights@badger.tds.net Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 20:12:41 -0700 To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: George Harlow Whitney

Does anyone have info on children of George Harlow Whitney?

Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 00:59:01 -0600 To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com From: Tim Doyle <tdoyle@doit.com>

Subject: Descendants of Ezra and Agnis (-----) Whitney Cc: PJGF35A@prodigy.com

At 04:49 PM 10/11/97, Robert L. Ward wrote:

>Whitney Research Group member Tim Doyle is a descendant of Lucretia's older >brother, Ezra WHITNEY, Jr., b. 29 Nov 1760, Lunenburg, MA.

I have been watching the WHITNEY mailing list for about two weeks now and have been busy gathering data on the descendants of Ezra and Agnes (-----) WHITNEY. I currently have 168 of them in my database. As soon as I get caught up, I'll be posting my database online for all to see, and will also contribute this branch to the WITNEY12 (or 13) GEDCOM.

>I find it quite unusual that Lucretia WHITNEY, who lived in the 1780's in >Rockingham, VT, should be married in 1792 in Providence, RI.

It may be unusual, but it may be correct. Ezra WHITNEY's pension application includes a letter written by his sister Lucretia WHITNEY Franklin dated 13 Dec 1845 which states that she remembered her mother and older sisters preparing a rucksack for Ezra to take with him when he served in the Revolution. She states that she resided in Windham County, Vermont until 1806 when she removed with her husband to Middletown, Delaware Co., NY and in 1826 to Allen, Allegany County, NY.

The 1850 census for Allen includes Lucretia Franklin, age 79, born in MA with what appears to be a daughter Harriett, age 44, b. NY. Living next door is perhaps a son Peter Franklin, age 45, b. NY, and his family. On the next census page is a John Franklin, aged 57, b. Rhode Island and his family. If John was a son of Lucretia and Mr. Franklin, then this would indicate that Lucretia had indeed resided in Rhode Island early in her marriage.

There is still a lot of work that needs to be done on this branch, but we have some good leads. If anyone else is interested in working on this line, please let me know!

Regarding the purported surname for Ezra WHITNEY's wife Agnis as being ROSSITER, I have yet to find the origin of this claim, but I do find the following in my files:

 Ezra Whitney
 b. 2-22-1730
 d. 9-24-1804
 m. (1) Agnes Rossiter
    (2) Elizabeth
    (3) Mercy Morse
 Lt. MA Rev.
 Info from DAR Patriot Index

Alas, this scrap of information was one collected by myself over ten years ago - before I got wise to the importance of properly citing sources.



Tim Doyle tdoyle@doit.com / tdoyle@netcom.com

WWW homepage: http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ ftp directory: doit.com pub/tdoyle

Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:49:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Barry Whitney <barryw@therock.mcg.edu> To: Cousins <Whitney-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: Ted Whitney <70732.151@CompuServe.COM>, Ted Whitney <mewhitney@mmm.com> Subject: William Marcellus Whitney


Cousins all,

What do you know about Whitney (or Whitney's) Corner (or Corners), NY?

Does anyone know of any descendants of these folks? Marcellus was my great grandfather's older brother.

Thanks, Barry


William 6-Marcellus Whitney

    b. March 18, 1827 Philadelphia (Jefferson County), NY
    d. July 25, 1905
    + Ida Drought
      Grace Nadine Whitney  May 03, 1887
      + Unknown Rogers  April 22, 1908
        Beatrice Nadine Rogers b. June 14, 1909
      Betsey Whitney  May 27, 1889
      Hazel Dell Whitney   March 23, 1892

(5-Erastus 6-Mason 5-Micah 4-James 3-John 2-Johnathan 1-John)


Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:49:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Barry Whitney <barryw@therock.mcg.edu> To: Cousins <Whitney-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: Ted Whitney <70732.151@CompuServe.COM>, Ted Whitney <mewhitney@mmm.com> Subject: William Marcellus Whitney


Cousins all,

What do you know about Whitney (or Whitney's) Corner (or Corners), NY?

Does anyone know of any descendants of these folks? Marcellus was my great grandfather's older brother.

Thanks, Barry


William 6-Marcellus Whitney

    b. March 18, 1827 Philadelphia (Jefferson County), NY
    d. July 25, 1905
    + Ida Drought
      Grace Nadine Whitney  May 03, 1887
      + Unknown Rogers  April 22, 1908
        Beatrice Nadine Rogers b. June 14, 1909
      Betsey Whitney  May 27, 1889
      Hazel Dell Whitney   March 23, 1892

(5-Erastus 6-Mason 5-Micah 4-James 3-John 2-Johnathan 1-John)


From: ALLAGREEN@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 01:18:29 -0400 (EDT) To: mwatts@gate.net cc: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Wheeler info fowarded to Whitney-L

Dear Michael:

Good thought - keep doing this kind of thing when you can. Karen Trouvat is a long-time member of the Whitney list as well, and a whole lot of us are trying to help her find Jabez' ancestry. Your forwarding does serve as a reminder, and maybe Karen is a bit loath to keep nudging us as often as we might need it.

Happy Hunting.

Allan

From: FDRusch@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 14:53:23 -0400 (EDT) To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Rhoda Whitney

Hi

I am trying to find proof if Rhoda Whitney, dau. of John Whitney and Rebecca Morehouse was married to Sylvanus Keeler or Nehemiah Hubbell. Phoenix claims she was married to Sylvanus Keeler and the Hubbell Genealogy, Additions and Revisions, 1995 claim she was married to Nehemiah Hubbell. I can find no proof of either

Rhoda Whitney was baptised in S. Salem Presbyterian Church, Westchester Co., NY April 30, 1769 and Nehemiah Hubbell was baptised in the same church in 1760.

Nehemiah Hubbell was living in FT. Ann, Washington Co. , NY with wife and 2 sons under 16 and two dau. under 16 in the 1790 census.

One son John named a child Whitney, b. 1820 and he had a son Ezra Whitney Hubbell, b. 1841.

I am a descendent of Nehemiah Hubbell and would like proof one way or another who married Rhoda Whitney .

I tried to get a will for her father John Whitney who died in Henderson, NY in 1831 at age 85. The wills began in 1833 according to the will indexes at the Watertown Public Library and he died in 1831. I also wrote the DAR and no help there either.

If anyone can help me I would be more than grateful. This has been bothering me for years.

Fran Rusch Wauwatosa, WI


From: mwverde@gmail.com Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 11:15:05 +0000 To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: WHITNEY-D Digest V97 #106 References: <199710141116.EAA13543@bl-14.rootsweb.com>

Do you know where Ebbeline was born? If so, try the 1880 census for Zachariah in that place, and you will at least get some more clues......Or do the family in the 1900 census where Ebbeline was when she was 23....

Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 07:16:08 -0400 From: Jeanne Muse <JWMUSE@compuserve.com>

Subject: Whitney Query Sender: Jeanne Muse <JWMUSE@compuserve.com> To: 1ALLWHITNEYS <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com>

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Re: Whitney

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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:08:10 -0400 (EDT) To: jwmuse@compuserve.com Subject: Whitney

Do you have a Zachariah Whitney, born 1851 in Wales, came to U.S.( date-location unkn.) married Loretta Horton(date-location unkn.). First child on record, Ebbeline born October 14, 1877 DB12251@aol.com

From: LPrice1551@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 05:31:47 -0400 (EDT) To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: William Wallace on Gendex

How could a man b 1640 father a child that could live to 1898? Seems a little far fetched!

Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:22:21 -0600 To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com From: Tim Doyle <tdoyle@doit.com> Subject: WHITNEY Twins: A Curious Case

In researching my Whitney line through various records, I believe I have made an interesting discovery - a multiplicity of twin births. Although we have no way of knowing if any of following sets were identical, we know for sure that at least four of the seven sets of twins were fraternal (different sex). Fraternal twins are known to run in families, but I am not sure if this is really the case here or if it is all just a coincidence. If there is anyone out there with a knowledge of the hereditary nature of twins, I would be interested in your thoughts.

Ezra 5 (John 4, Isaiah 3, Thomas 2, John 1) = Agnes (-----)

 Ezra 6
   Esau 7, b. 21 Aug 1796 Rockingham, Windham Co, VT
     Esau 8, b. ca. 1830, NY
     Esther 8, b. ca. 1830, NY
   Jacob 7, b. 21 Aug 1796 Rockingham, Windham Co, VT
     Edwin 8, b. ca. 1843, NY
     Jane, b. ca. 1843, NY
   Royal 7
     Samuel 8, b. ca. 1844, NY
     Ezra 8, b. ca. 1844, NY
 Lucretia 6
   John 7 (descent from Lucretia not yet proven)
     Julia 8, b. ca. 1833, NY
     Julius 8, b. ca. 1833, NY
     Gideon 8, b. ca. 1836, NY
     Girtrude 8, b. ca. 1836, NY
   Peter 7 (descent from Lucretia not yet proven)
     Walter 8, b. ca. 1845 NY
     William 8, b. ca. 1845, NY

In looking at what records I have, I do not see any other twins in Ezra (5) Whitney's siblings' families. If this twinning trait was indeed inherited, could it have originated in Agnes (-----)'s family?



Tim Doyle tdoyle@doit.com / tdoyle@netcom.com

WWW homepage: http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ ftp directory: doit.com pub/tdoyle

Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:42:33 -0400 From: Dean Jackson <103303.503@compuserve.com> Subject: Michigan Whitney Sender: Dean Jackson <103303.503@compuserve.com> To: WRG <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com>

 Dear Folks

While tramping around a cemetery in Michigan I ran across a stone marker for Whitney. Bessie 1889-1952 with Harry 1879-1961. If anyone is interested I'd be glad to send the snap I made of the site.

Dean Jackson

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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 18:17:23 -0400 (EDT) To: tdoyle@doit.com, WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: WHITNEY Twins: A Curious Case

DEar Tim,

    While I know of no twins in my Whitney line, thought you might be interested

in my wife's story of twins. Her mother's family were Kaufman's and we just returned last week from a visit to London and Lafayette, Ohio, where that family came from and is buried.

    My wife is an identical twin and her sister lives in Springfield, Mo.  Their

mother was a twin, fraternal, but the boy died at birth; her grandmother was a twin, fraternal, and the boy died at birth. In the cemetery in Lafayette, Ohio, we found graves of two other sets of twins. One set both died at birth and the other set one lived and one died.

    Twins did not crop up again in my wife's or her sisters families, but my

wife's maternal aunt had three boys, and two out of the three boys have living twin grandchildren, one set identical and the other fraternal. From this it is easy to see that they apparently do run in families. Wouldn't be surprised that if they might crop up again in our Grandchildren's families, if and when they have children.

    I am stuck on finding my Whitney family line beyond my Great Grandfather,

Daniel James Whitney, born in New York in 1834. If you have anything on him or his ancestors, would be happy to hear about it from you. Thanks. Ray Whitney, Topeka, Kansas. RayWhit79@AOL.com

From: RayWhit79@aol.com Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 18:17:23 -0400 (EDT) To: tdoyle@doit.com, WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: WHITNEY Twins: A Curious Case

DEar Tim,

    While I know of no twins in my Whitney line, thought you might be interested

in my wife's story of twins. Her mother's family were Kaufman's and we just returned last week from a visit to London and Lafayette, Ohio, where that family came from and is buried.

    My wife is an identical twin and her sister lives in Springfield, Mo.  Their

mother was a twin, fraternal, but the boy died at birth; her grandmother was a twin, fraternal, and the boy died at birth. In the cemetery in Lafayette, Ohio, we found graves of two other sets of twins. One set both died at birth and the other set one lived and one died.

    Twins did not crop up again in my wife's or her sisters families, but my

wife's maternal aunt had three boys, and two out of the three boys have living twin grandchildren, one set identical and the other fraternal. From this it is easy to see that they apparently do run in families. Wouldn't be surprised that if they might crop up again in our Grandchildren's families, if and when they have children.

    I am stuck on finding my Whitney family line beyond my Great Grandfather,

Daniel James Whitney, born in New York in 1834. If you have anything on him or his ancestors, would be happy to hear about it from you. Thanks. Ray Whitney, Topeka, Kansas. RayWhit79@AOL.com

Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 18:36:44 -0400 From: Dean Jackson <103303.503@compuserve.com> Subject: Canada Sender: Dean Jackson <103303.503@compuserve.com> To: WRG <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com>

Dear WRG

Still seeking any info on William Whitney, born in London, England and settled in York/Etobicoke (Toronto), Canada around 1800.

Dean Jackson

From: knights@badger.tds.net Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 21:53:58 -0700 To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Joshua B. Whitney - Granville, NY

Joshua B. Whitney had a registered "ear mark" for his cattle in Granville, NY in 1793 (per Washington Co. genweb project). Can anyone provide info on decendants/ancestry of this Joshua B. Whitney?

Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 18:55:17 -0500 From: David Whitney <dw34551@navix.net> Organization: The Titus Corporation To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: George Whitney

I am looking for George Whitney, I beleive he was born in Canada, I would guess that his date of birth is roughly 1823. His family was listed in the 1860 census for Stephenson Co., IL. It listed his wife Marie (Rowe) Whitney, children, Martha, Henry, Susan and Crosby. Crosby and Henry show up in the 1870 census for Marshall Co., IA. Crosby then moved to Seward Co., NE until 1885 when he moved to Republic Co., KS, he stayed there until 1905 when he moved to Laton, CA until he died. His son Herman stayed in Republic Co., KS, then came is son Earl, his son Gerald and then me David Whitney. My e-mai is dw34551@navix.net any help would be greatly appreciated

From: Babseeb@aol.com Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 20:48:09 -0400 (EDT) To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Michigan Whitney

    Do you remember the County of Michigan that your were in?   I am still

looking for my Daniel Whitney's parents. I do not know the given name. there were a number of children and Daniel was one of the younger ones.

    Thank you for telling us about your find.

Barbara Crowder Black in Sacramento

Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 09:07:44 -0700 To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com From: sherrill madden <mssherrill@fishnet.net> Subject: WHITNEY : NY

Looking for WHITNEY, Royal from Ossining, NY b. abt 1800 may have had brother Russel. I believe they were originally from MA or VT.

Or any other ROYAL Whitney's ..

Sherrill Madden

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Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 01:24:24 -0600 To: sherrill madden <mssherrill@fishnet.net> From: Tim Doyle <tdoyle@doit.com> Subject: Re: WHITNEY : NY Cc: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com

At 09:07 AM 10/18/97 -0700, sherrill madden <mssherrill@fishnet.net> wrote: >Looking for WHITNEY, Royal from Ossining, NY b. abt 1800 may have had >brother Russel. I believe they were originally from MA or VT. > >Or any other ROYAL Whitney's ..

Here are three:

1. Royal Whitney (Ezra, Ezra, John, Isaiah, Thomas, John); b. 11 Apr 1801 in Rockingham Township, Windham Co, VT; m. Mary E. (-----) before 1830.

He appeared on the census of 1810 in Rockingham, Windham Co, VT, with Ezra Whitney. He was engaged in agriculture in 1820. He appeared on the census of 1820 in Orcean (Ossian) Township, Allegany Co (now Livingston Co), NY, with Ezra Whitney. He appeared on the census of 1830 in Burns Township, Allegany Co, NY, (the family consisted of 1 male 15-20 [Royal-age understated?] , 1 female 15-20 [wife - name unknown] , and 1 female 0-5 [unknown daughter] ). He appeared on the census of 1840 in Burns Township, Allegany Co, NY, (the family consisted of 1 male 30-40 [Royal] , 1 male 10-15 [unknown] , 1 female 20-30 [wife-name unknown] , 2 females 5-10, and 2 females 0-5. One person was engaged in manufacturing/trade). He appeared on the census of 1850 in Ossian Township, Allegany Co (now Livingston Co), NY, (owned $17,216 in property).

He

appeared on the census of 1860 in Ossian, Livingston Co, NY, (owned $23,200 in real estate and $1,200 in personal estate). He was a farmer in 1860. He appeared on the census of 1870 in Ossian Township, Livingston Co, NY, (owned $21,320 in real estate and $3,191 in personal estate). He was a farmer in 1870.

Mary E. (-----) was born circa 1811 in NY.

Known children of Royal Whitney and Mary E. (-----) were as follows:

   i. unknown; b. between 1825 and 1830.
  ii. unknown; b. between 1825 and 1830.
 iii. Ann; b. circa 1833 in NY.
  iv. Emma; b. circa 1834 in NY.
   v. Angelica; b. 2 Aug 1835 in NY.
  vi. Sarah; b. circa 1838 in NY.
 vii. Seva; b. circa 1841 in NY.
viii. Samuel; b. circa 1844 in NY.
  ix. Ezra; b. circa 1843 or 1844 in NY.
   x. Royal; b. circa 1846 or 1847 in NY.
  xi. Winfield S; b. circa 1851 in NY.
 xii. Charles S; b. circa 1855 or 1856 in NY.

1. Uriel Whitney (John, Isaiah, Thomas, John) was also listed in records with the name Royal Whitney; b. 11 Sep 1757 in Shirley, Middlesex Co, MA; m. an unknown person 16 Dec 1787 in Gorham, ME; m. an unknown person 7 Aug 1819; d. 10 Nov 1835 in North Yarmouth, ME, at age 78; bur. in Congregational Cemetery, North Yarmouth, ME.

He enlisted at beginning of the Revolution (April 19, 1775), in Col. Prescott's regimentar 17 Years old. At the Battle of Lexington and Concord, then marched to Cambridge and helped to build fortifications on Breed's Hill. was at the battle at White Plains in 1776, served until some time in 1777. Settled on a farm on the north end of Pleasant Pond in Otisfield, ME in 1778. Served in the Bagaduce Expedition against the English at Ft George, ME. Moved to Gorham, ME and married in 1787, and then bought land in North Yarmouth, ME and moved there about 1798. Owned one farm, of 67 acres, on Humphrey's Road, and part of lot no. 12 in the 120 acre division, on the east side of Royall's River, with the buildings, thereon. He was a noted schoolteacher in that community. Granted a pension.

No known children.



Tim Doyle tdoyle@doit.com / tdoyle@netcom.com

WWW homepage: http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ ftp directory: doit.com pub/tdoyle

From: KTrouvat@aol.com Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 06:45:08 -0400 (EDT) To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: WHITNEY : NY

In a message dated 97-10-18 13:28:33 EDT, you write:

<< Looking for WHITNEY, Royal from Ossining, NY b. abt 1800 may have had

brother Russel. I believe they were originally from MA or VT.
Or any other ROYAL Whitney's .. Sherrill Madden >>

I don't have a Royal Whitney, but I have a 'Ryal' or 'Rial' Castle, son of Lydia Whitney (b. 1806 in Maine) and Phylander Castle (b. 1799 Litchfield CT or Rutland VT). Best regards to all, Karen in France


Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 09:25:29 -0500 From: Al <pucci@vbe.com> To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: beginning search-whitney geneology

I am Allen Whitney, Oshkosh, Wisconsin. I am inaugurating a search into my family's lineage premised on information that a triple marriage between three Whitney brothers and three Dow sisters took place near Houlton Maine between 1865 and 1867. The father of the brothers may have been Moses. Two of the sons were John and Daniel. All three couples made it to Wisconsin where John and his brother settled. Daniel moved on to Missouri. John's son Henry would have been my grandfather. I am seeking to flush out this information and to link to earlier ancestors in Maine. Any help would be appreciated.

Please reply pucci@vbe.com



From: AwhitneyB@aol.com Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 13:35:19 -0400 (EDT) To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Michigan Whitney

Dear Babseeb, I have some info on Michigan Whitneys, but your post was somewhat cryptic. What are looking for and what do you know again?

From: AwhitneyB@aol.com Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 13:41:05 -0400 (EDT) To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Michigan Whitney

By the way, are you related to Phil Crowder? My name is A. Whitney Brown.

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:29:55 -0400 From: Ty Alexander <tyalex@ix.netcom.com> To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: WHITNEY, Neil>b. abt. 1815, Ontario, Canada

Looking for info on Neil WHITNEY who married Mary KILE (b. abt 1818) on August 9, 1833, at Markham, York, Ontario, Canada.

At some point they moved to 40-Mile-Creek, Canada (now Grimsby, Ontario, Canada) where their children were born (listed below). While the children were young, the WHITNEY's moved to Port Huron, Michigan, and later to Saginaw, Michigan.

Neal Lamont WHITNEY m. Mary KILE in 1833.

    Alfrida (or Alfreda) WHITNEY, b. abt 1843
    Elizabeth WHITNEY, b. abt 1846
    Samuel C. WHITNEY, b. about 1848
    Fares Lamont WHITNEY, b. Oct. 23, 1850
    John G. WHITNEY, b. abt 1854
    Mary I. WHITNEY, b. abt 1856
    Neal C. WHITNEY, b. abt 1859

I'm looking for info on the original Neil WHITNEY. Who were his parents; was he REALLY born in Canada? and etc.

Also, would appreciate hearing from anyone who might be connected to this line in any way. I have additional information that I'm willing to share.

Well, thanks a lot gang.

Ty Alexander Sarasota, Florida tyalex@ix.netcom.com

From: Jroots@aol.com Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 00:54:41 -0400 (EDT) To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Gratia Frances WHITNEY

Hi, does anyone recognize the above name? She was born in or of Fitchburg, Worcester, MA. She m. Edward Cutter LOCKE 31 Dec. 1848. He was b. 25 Feb 1818 in Lancaster, Worcester, MA. I'm trying to identify her parents and descendants (if any).

Thanks in advance for any help.

Jerry Harrison jroots@aol.com Albuquerque, NM

Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:58:08 -0400 From: Earl Woodford <woodhome@erols.com> To: ALLAGREEN@aol.com CC: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Can do CD Lookups for a week/10 days References: <971011000355_-1127291497@emout01.mail.aol.com>

ALLAGREEN@aol.com wrote: > > Dear WRG: > > My good wife has brought home three new Family Archives CD's from the library > for testing, and I'll have them for about a week or so before they have to go > back. With the copyright laws, I cannot just copy the material and put it on > the Net for all, but if you have an ancestor that you believe might appear in > any of these, send me the names and their home states, if possible, and I'll > send you back the information on an individual basis, not to the list. They > are: > > CD 351 Roll of Honor: Civil War Union Soldiers (Deaths) all 27 volumes of the > cemetery listings of the burials of Union dead during the Civil War - 191,000 > names with lots of Whitneys > > CD 350 The Complete Book of Emigrants, 1607 - 1776 and The Complete Book of > Emigrants in Bondage, 1614 - 1775 - originally six volumes > > CD 162 Virginia Genealogies #1, pre-1600 to 1900's - pedigrees, etc., taken > from the Virginia Magazine of History and Biography. > > I already own: > > CD 113 "273 Genealogy Books > > This may be a good opportunity for some of our Southern Whitneys to see if > their people are among these sources, especially CD 162. Remember, there > were a number of units in the Union Army from that part of Virginia that then > became West Virginia, so some of "y'All" may be in there. > > Since I quit all the postings about converting Witney12 to PAF, things have > quieted down on the list. Did everyone who needed the PAF converted file get > it? If not, let me know and I'll send it to you. Remember, those of us > eagerly awaiting more Maine stuff from Jan Whitaker, she's taking a couple of > (well-deserved) weeks off to recharge batteries at the shore. > > Happy Hunting! > > Allan > GENEALOGICAL TRUTH FOR TODAY: Blank genealogy forms [or software, for that > matter] never have exactly the catagories or spaces you need. > CORRELARY: All software packages look good, but immediately have a problem > with "your" special case.


Dear Allen,

    Thanks for trying to help us Southern Whitneys.  My main problem

is that I don't know the first name of my Whitney who was the father of Lovet P. Whitney who I first found in Butler Co, KY. I know Lovet was born in SC, but it's tough when Dad died before Lovet even married (his mother Sarah signed his permission). Anyway, would you please look at CD 351, Union War Deaths and look for Hezikiah (or Kur as he as known) Whitney? I was told he died during The War.

    thanks a lot.   Penny Woodford nee Whitney

Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:39:08 -0400 From: Jeanne Muse <JWMUSE@compuserve.com>

Subject: WHITNEY : NY Sender: Jeanne Muse <JWMUSE@compuserve.com> To: BlindCopyReceiver:;

>>Or any other ROYAL Whitney's<<

The Henry Whitney of Long Island & Connecticut line has one Royal Whitney...Royal Corbin Whitney, son of William Whitney and Sally Batterson, b. 10 Jun 1801. His parents were both born in Norwalk, Connecticut. I do not have places of birth for their children. No brother named Russell is listed.

-) Jeanne

Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 22:29:54 -0500 From: James C Roberts <jcrfhr@worldnet.att.net> Organization: Self Service To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Samuel m 1735 Elizabetb Hastings

daughter Lucy Whitney b 27 Aug 1744 p111 Shrewsbury Vital Records to 1850.

fhr

From: Macosg@aol.com Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 03:51:59 -0400 (EDT) To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: witney12.ged

Hi too all you Whitneys out there,

Imagine my surprise! I would just like to report that I was one of the Whitneys that had so much trouble downloading the Whitney Gedcom.

My problem was that I had downloaded it but couldn't find it afterwards and I knew it was floating somewhere in my computer. Well, I just found it - it was dated August and today is October 20. I just imported it into my Reunion Program without a hitch and am now thrilled with the information and the fact that I have finally learned how to use my computer in a new procedure. Thanks to all those who wrote to tell me that I wasn't crazy.

Now, for the very kind person that wrote it in the first place, my line goes to Martin Whitney, b. June 7, 1787 - d. in 1850. I can update "him and his" to modern times. Do you want that information?

Thanks to all again and again.

Mary Anne Carter Cosgrove in Los Angeles.

Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:02:02 To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Correction: John WHITNEY, Jr.

Dear WRG:

The database CTWHIT2.GED contains the following information under John-3 WHITNEY [John-2, Henry-1]:

"*HISTORY: 'The Great Migration Begins', Robert Charles Anderson, Boston 1995, Vol I, p633: Speaking of John ELLET 'By the time of the Composite Inventory he had disposed of his grant in the Beaverbrook Plowlands, at that date held by John WHITNEY, Jr. [Lands, Grants, Divisions, Allotments, Possessions and Proprietors' Book,' Section Two in Watertown Records Comprising the First and Second Books of Town Proceedings.. Watertown 1894. p 139]."

A close reading of _The Great Migration Begins_ reveals that this land lay in Watertown, MA, and was in the possession of John WHITNEY, Jr., before 1646. In fact it was in his possession in 1643-1644, when the Composite Inventory was compiled by Simon EIRE. As a result, this item must not apply to the above John-3 WHITNEY, Jr., who wasn't born until 12 Mar 1676, and apparently always lived in Norwalk, CT. Instead, it must apply to John-2 WHITNEY, Jr. [John-1] of Watertown. He was the only John WHITNEY, Jr., old enough to have owned this land, and furthermore, he resided in Watertown, MA, where it was located.

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:43:41 -0400 From: Dean Jackson <103303.503@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Michigan Whitney Sender: Dean Jackson <103303.503@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com" <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com>

Hi Barbara

I was in St. Clair County.

Dean L.A.

Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:45:53 -0400 From: Ty Alexander <tyalex@ix.netcom.com>

To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: WHITNEY Gedcom

Hi everyone... What is the "Whitney Gedcom" and what's the download site? (OK, I admit, I'm new...*G*)..

I also see a reference to CTWHIT2.GED... what is that database and where is it located?

Thanks for the help, gang... *guidance needed*.. *smile*

Ty Alexander Sarasota, Florida tyalex@ix.netcom.com

From: ALLAGREEN@aol.com Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:59:17 -0400 (EDT) To: LittelA@aol.com, Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Southern Whitneys & Isle of Wight Co, VA

Dear Alicia and other Southern Whitneys:

Alicia, when you mentioned Isle of Wight Co., VA, and the area of NC just across the border, you inadvertently struck gold. My wife is from Smithfield, VA, which is the biggest town in IoW, and we just happen to have a number of references here at home that have proved to be interesting in this light. There are no Whitneys in Chapman's book on the Marriages of Isle of Wight, but they are interestingly present in the Wills and Administrations of both Isle of Wight and Southampton (formed from IoW in 1749) Counties.

Here then are the entries (bare bones extracts - you need to consult the

originals for further clues) for Whitneys in Isle of Wight:

1) RIGGIN, Ann: Appraised by Robert Richards, Joshua Whitney, Christopher Reynolds. Signed William Noyall. R. November 25, 1728 p. 134

 (earliest date that locates him here - AEG)   IoW, W&A p. 104

2) GILES, Eleanor: Leg. son Robert Smelly; grandson John Smelly; to my son Robert Smelly's wife; to Grandsons Robert and Thomas, the sons of Robert Smelly; to Elizabeth Smelly, the wife of my son Lewis Smelly; to Joshua Whitney Jr., the son of my granddaughter; to Lewis, the son of William Joyner. Ex. my grandson, John Smelly. D. February 17, 1732. R. November 25, 1734. Wit: Thomas Uzzell, H. Lightfoot. p. 29 IoW, W&A p. 120 [We should probably remember here that, in this time, Jr was sometimes used to denote the younger of two men in the community with the same name, and may or may not mean father and son, as in Joshua Whitney the younger rather than Joshua Whitney Jr., son of Joshua Whitney (Sr.) - tracing the granddaughter to determine her name and marriage might clear up the matter. AEG]

3) WHITNEY, Joshua: Leg. wife Mathon; son David; son Jeremiah; son Samuel; daughter Kolzing; son Joseph; daughter Ruth; son Francis; daughter Ketring.

Exs. sons David and Jeremiah Whitney.  D. December 26, 1735.  R. April 26,

1736. Wit: John Bentley, Jeremiah Bentley, James Blair. (Will also proved in North Carolina) p. 104 IoW, W&A p. 124 [Never ever before having seen names like Kolzing and Ketring in the Whitney family, I would wonder if it were possible that the two were actually wives of sons Samuel and Francis, respectively - they sound Germanic to me. Really must see the original for a better idea on this - AEG]

4) WHITNEY, Joshua: Appraised by Richard West, Thomas Summerell, Timothy Tynes, R. August 23, 1736.

                                                                       p.

134 IoW, W&A p. 126

It's supper time and other things need to be done. I'll try to get back to the Southampton Co. Wills and Administrations later tonight - if not, tomorrow.

Happy Hunting:-)

Allan


Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 21:52:38 -0400 From: Jeanne Muse <JWMUSE@compuserve.com> Subject: Correction: John WHITNEY, Jr. Sender: Jeanne Muse <JWMUSE@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:WHITNEY-L@rootsw" <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com>

Robert Ward wrote today:

>>A close reading of _The Great Migration Begins_ reveals that this land lay in Watertown, MA, and was in the possession of John WHITNEY, Jr., before 1646.<<

Thank you, Robert, for actually viewing the above publication. Those notes will be deleted from my database file in the future revision.

-) Jeanne Muse

Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 20:01:46 -0700 From: Jennifer Whitney <whitneyj@gte.net>

To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Fwd: Whitney's on the WA RSL]

Thought someone with more access to information might be able to help this person out.........


perrault wrote: > > Hi Jennifer, > I just found your name on the RSL looking for Whitneys. I'm researching > the Whitneys who were in Mt Vernon and then headed for California. > Charles Percival Whitney came to Mt Vernon from Marion, KS in 1891. He > brought his wife, Anna and kids; Inez and Edith, Leo, George and Lois. > Inez' daughter, Josephine was the only one of the direct family to > remain in Mt Vernon. Quite a few of the family also settled in Columbia > and Washington counties in OR. Are these any relation to your Whitneys? > It would be nice. I think I'm the only one in the Whitney Research > Group doing northwest research. > If we do connect in any way, I have information I'd be willing to share > and compare. > Sue Perrault > Sumner

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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:42:11 -0700 From: perrault <perrault@blarg.net> To: whitneyj@gte.net Subject: Whitney's on the WA RSL

Hi Jennifer, I just found your name on the RSL looking for Whitneys. I'm researching the Whitneys who were in Mt Vernon and then headed for California. Charles Percival Whitney came to Mt Vernon from Marion, KS in 1891. He brought his wife, Anna and kids; Inez and Edith, Leo, George and Lois. Inez' daughter, Josephine was the only one of the direct family to remain in Mt Vernon. Quite a few of the family also settled in Columbia and Washington counties in OR. Are these any relation to your Whitneys? It would be nice. I think I'm the only one in the Whitney Research Group doing northwest research. If we do connect in any way, I have information I'd be willing to share and compare. Sue Perrault Sumner From: JR541@aol.com Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 02:28:16 -0400 (EDT) To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Whitney Family ( Susan Resseguie Cousin)

Hello,

          My name is Jim Resseque and I am a distant cousin of Susan

Resseguie, wife of Jeremiah Whitney born Fishkill NY June 17 1787. Thier children are also my cousins. I am interested in learning more about My cousins. Were they soldiers in the Civil War? Also i would share any Resseguie info you might like too know

                                                              Thanks, Jim

Resseque

From: Rsfahrn@aol.com Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:43:21 -0400 (EDT) To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Claude Bell Whitney

I am looking for info about my great uncle Claude Bell Whitney, born 16 Oct 1889, probably in Delaware Co., IN. Family lore has it that he died in 1906 while a student in San Francisco, leading to the assumption that he died during THE earthquake and fire. Does anyone have any info and/or sources? Thanks Sandy rsfahrn@aol.com

From: AwhitneyB@aol.com Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 23:14:23 -0400 (EDT) To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Royal Whitney

I noticed a few posts about Royal Whitney last week, and my archives were off, so I can't find them now, but in looking through the Surrogate Records Index of Livingston County, NY, I happened upon the following entries, among many other Whitneys: Royal Whitney: lettr. of admin.-Book 4 page 175 -decree Book30 p. 104 -Civil disp. Book3 p. 356. The date would be, from surrounding entries, Dec 1883-Jan 1884 Also Royal Whitney, 1924, will- book 33 p. 29, So there you have the Surrogate records of most likely a father and son Royal Whitney, in Livingstone County, NY. Hope it helps someone. There were many other Whitneys in there, some notable names, Chauncy F. 1865, Elkanah, 1848, Cemantha, 1878, Simeon L., 1875, Chauncy P., 1890 Chauncy E. (aft. 1900), Oscar H. 1895 George W. 1887, George S. 1900, Julia A. 1892, Charles S. 1899, and a few Sarahs, Johns, and names too common to be of use in this limited context. Yours, A. Whitney Brown

From: ALLAGREEN@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:39:30 -0400 (EDT) To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Southern Whitneys - Southampton Co., VA

Dear WRG:

Here is the promised further data from the Southampton Co., VA, book of Wills and Administrations.

1) SMELLY, Giles: Leg: Joseph son of Joshua Joyner; Giles son of William Joyner; John son of Joseph Joyner; Robert Durdan; Moses son of William Joyner; Lewis son of William Joyner and Joshua Whitney. Ex. Joshua Whitney.

D. Nov. 25, 1755.  R. Dec. 11, 1755.  Wit. William Haynes, John Lawrence,

Elenor Joyner. page 187, W.B. I [Sthmptn Co. W&A book page 11]

2) SMELLY, Giles: Inventory signed by Joshua Whitney. R. Aug. 12, 1756, page 206, W. B. I [Sthmptn Co., W&A book page 12]

3) JOYNER, Joseph: Leg. - son Joseph; son John land purchased of Mary Clother(?) [? was in the Chapman So. Co., W&A transcriptions - whether in the original W&A book not known - AEG]; daughter Margaret Whitney; daughter Mary Mackey; grandson Joseph Mackey; daughter Elizabeth; daughter Ann; daughter Amey Joyner. Exs., sons Joseph and John Joyner. D. Oct 25, 1760. R. April 8, 1762. Wit. William Haynes, Giles Joyner, Charles Lawrence. Page 450, W. B. I. [Sthmptn Co., W&A book page 23]

4) WHITNEY, Joshua of Nottaway Parish. Leg. - son Joshua land adjoining George Lawrence, Charles Lawrence, Elisha Ballard & Bennett Hilsman; son Elisha land bought in Isle of Wight of George Brewer and land in Southampton adjoining Giles Joyner; son Giles; wife Margery; daughter Amy Whitney.

Executors to acknowledge deed in Isle of Wight to Thomas Lankford for land

adjoining John Lankford and William Bulls. Exs. wife Margery and friend John Joyner. D. May 18, 1762. R. Oct. 14, 1762. Wit. Charles Lawrence, Joshua Miniard, Mary Bland. Page 3, W. B. II. [Sthmptn Co. W&A, p. 28]

5) NORMAN, William of Nottaway Parish. Whole estate to friend Joshua Whitney, my children having proven to be undutiful and disobedient. Ex. Joshua Whitney. D. Dec. 11, 1761. R. Jan. 12, 1763. Wit. Lewis Joyner, George Lawrence, Charles Lawrence. P. 18, W. B. II [Sthmptn Co. W&A, p. 29]

6) WHITNEY, Joshua: Estate appraised by William Joyner, Giles Joyner and Christopher Wade. R. May 16, 1763. P. 34, W. B. II [Sthmptn Co. W&A, p. 30]

TO BE CONTINUED.

Happy Hunting:-)

Allan

From: AwhitneyB@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:12:39 -0400 (EDT) To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Chauncey F. Whitney

Barry asked about a Chauncey Whitney that I had mentioned in a search of the Livingston County Surrogate Court Records index. Yes, there was a Chauncey F, a Chauncey P, and a Chauncey E. This Index is available on microfilm through the LDS Family History Center. Using the index, you can then try to obtain the actual wills and letters of administration, etc. A simpler way to find out about this guy might be to send for the Livingston County Death Records Index up to 1900. I'm pretty sure the records are good for the time.

As far as the proximity of the counties you refer to, a genealogical expert at my local library tells me that this information can often be deduced from studying a "road map" of New York State, which can be obtained from the National Archives under the Freedom of Information Act of 1972. [Library of Congress Cat. # 16334664BNY9]. Or at a gas station. Alternatively, if you are on-line, you can ask someone else who is on-line to do a Yahoo search under Maps, NY. A. Whitney Brown

From: Jroots@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:47:54 -0400 (EDT) To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Thanks and and Announcement

Hi, I'd like to thank everyone on the Whitney list who have helped me with connections with the LOCKE family. Please accept my thanks as some of the help has resulted in the publication of "The Descendants of Ebenezer Locke (1674-1723), Son of William Locke of Woburn, Massachusetts." It is available now from Heritage Books. In the near future, I hope to have an update of the classic "Book of the Lockes" in which there are even more WHITNEY family members.

Again, thank you for the wonderful help.

Regards,

Jerry Harrison jroots@aol.com Albuquerque, NM

Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 18:24:36 -0400 From: Jeanne Muse <JWMUSE@compuserve.com>

Subject: Error? - Sarah Whitney & Benjamin Wilson Sender: Jeanne Muse <JWMUSE@compuserve.com> To: 1ALLWHITNEYS <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com>

I believe there is an error in our database (per Whitney #12). Review our current entry for:

Sarah Whitney (dau. of John Whitney & Rebeckah Whitney), b. 5 Feb 1726/1727, Harvard, MA, d. 17 May 1771 in Townsend, Mass; m. Benjamin Wilson 26 Nov 1747 in Groton.

I do not believe this Sarah married Benjamin Wilson.

My records show that Sarah Whitney (dau. of CORNELIUS Whitney and Sarah Shepperd) b. 8 Jan 1731/32; d. 17 May 1771; m. 26 Nov 1747 Benjamin Wilson (son of John Wilson & Elizabeth Foster) b. 18 Sep 1715 in Billerica, Mass; d. 1 Jun 1774 in Townsend, Mass. 1 child of this union in my database: Oliver Wilson b. 27 Mar 1749 Townsend, Mass; d. 27 Nov 1812; m. Sarah Heywood (they had 11 children)

Documentation I have recorded is: Birth - NEHG Register Vol 11 p225; Bond p644 Birth & Marriage - NEHG Register Vol 103 p297

I quote here from Vol 103 p297 under the heading "Baptisms and Funeral Services by Rev. Obed Wilson"

"Obed was the grandson of Benjamin Wilson and Sarah Whitney. Benjamin, born in Billerica, Mass., 18 Sept. 1715, died in Townsend, Mass., 1 Jun 1774. Sarah was born 8 Jan. 1731, died 17 May 1771, daughter of Cornelius Whitney and Sarah Shepperd of Groton, Mass., descendant of the first Whitney child born in America."

The "first Whitney child born in America" was Joshua, son of John & Elinor of Watertown.

Of course, it is possible that 2 separate Sarah Whitney women married 2 separate Benjamin Wilson men -- but it is unlikely that they were married on the very same day in the same town. It is also very unlikely that the two women died on the exact same date in the same town -- so her death date is incorrect.

I suggest that our database be changed ... unless, of course, someone else has other documentation to prove otherwise.

-) Jeanne (Whitney) Muse

Sent on: 10/23/97


Always looking for information on the surnames: WHITNEY, GOLDSMITH, MUSE, REED

See my Roots Home Page at this URL: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwmuse/roots.htm




Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 19:24:35 -0400 From: Ty Alexander <tyalex@ix.netcom.com> To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: WHITNEY, Neil>Canada>Michigan

Hello everyone... and thanks to everyone who has already written to me. My name is Ty Alexander and I live in Sarasota, Florida; I'm new to the list.

Thanks especially to Allan Green and Barry Whitney who both suggested that I start by introducing myself and submitting an outline of my ancestors. Sounds like a good place to start... so... here goes..

(My line is marked with an askerisk*)...

1. *Neil Lamont WHITNEY, b. abt 1815 in Canada, m. Mary Kile

    Their children were:
    2.  Alfrida WHITNEY, b. abt 1843 in Canada
    2.  Elizabeth WHITNEY, b. abt 1846 in Canada
    2.  Samuel C. WHITNEY, b. abt 1848 in Canada
    2.  *Fares Lamont WHITNEY, b. Oct. 23, 1850, at 40-mile Creek              Canada

(now Grimsby), Ontario, Canada

    2.  John G. WHITNEY, b. abt 1854 in Canada
    2.  Mary I. WHITNEY, b. abt 1856 in Canada
    2.  Neal C. WHITNEY, b. abt 1859, St. Clair Co., Michigan
    Fares Lamont WHITNEY m. Sarah Parelee FLOWERS on Apr. 16, 1871,  at

Medley's Landing, Missouri. Their kids were:

         3.  *Alfrieda Lydia WHITNEY, b. May 10, 1872, Hickman            
    Co., KY
         3.  Elizabeth A. WHITNEY, b. Nov. 30, 1876
         3.  Mary Ellen WHITNEY, b. Jan. 28, 1879
         3.  Sarah E. WHITNEY, b. Oct. 23, 1881
         3.  Florence S. WHITNEY, b. Oct. 6, 1887
         3.  James Clarence WHITNEY, b. March 17, 1890,              Dyersburg,

Dyer Co., TN

         3.  Leonora S. WHITNEY, b.Setp. 21, 1892, Dyer Co. TN
         Alfrieda L. WHITNEY m. William Thomas COOPER on Oct. 17,         1897,

Dyer Co., TN. Their kids were:

              4.  Ferris Green COOPER, b. Oct. 11, 1898
              4.  *Eunice Eugene COOPER, b. Mar. 30, 1901
              4.  Hattie Estelle COOPER, b. Aug. 14, 1903
              4.  Leslie Rawls COOPER, b. Apr. 7, 1906
              4.  Reed Thomas COOPER, b. Dec. 13, 1908
              4.  Archie Roy COOPER, b. Mar. 5, 1911
              Eunice Eugene COOPER married Will J. Rogers.
                   5.  *Alfreda Ruth ROGERS, b. Dec. 13,             
         1925  (my mother)

Well, I hope this gives everyone an idea where I'm at in my searching. I have some information about WHITNEY's who are buried at a church in Grimsby, Ontario, Canada, and who I believe are certainly connected to my line (probably Neil's father, etc.). Will share if anyone is interested.

My goal is to discover where my Whitney's were prior to Canada and, of course, to continue to line back. I also like to gather collateral family information, so if anyone sees anything that looks familiar, please email me!

I'm looking forward to a great time of sharing on the Whitney list.

May all your WHITNEY's be related *G* Ty Alexander tyalex@ix.netcom.com

From: ALLAGREEN@aol.com Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 02:23:28 -0400 (EDT) To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Also Re Chauncy Whitney

Dear Barry and Whitney et. al.:

I might also recommend the Livingston County, MI, web-site on GenWeb - it is absolutely fantastic - one of the best in the whole project, especially the maps that they have available.

Allan

Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 11:16:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Barry Whitney <barryw@therock.mcg.edu> To: Cousins <Whitney-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Wills

Subject: State List

http://www.wasatch.com/~dsam/sampubco/states.htm

Check out this site that offers to make you copies of wills and associated materials for $5.00 each. NY, PA, Ohio, and about half a dozen other states are available. The indexes are not too hard to navigate, and if you know a person's name and place of residence, you can find him/her and order the copy. I found Erastus Whitney and Betsey (Chadwick) Whitney in Jefferson County, NY, in 1850's-1870's. Has anyone on our list actually ordered wills from sampubco? Tell us about it.

Ever, Barry

Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:29:12 -0400 (EDT) To: Jeanne Muse <JWMUSE@compuserve.com>

From: janwhit@MA.ultranet.com (Janice Whitaker) Subject: Re: Error? - Sarah Whitney & Benjamin Wilson Cc: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com

>I believe there is an error in our database (per Whitney #12). Review our >current entry for: > >Sarah Whitney (dau. of John Whitney & Rebeckah Whitney), b. 5 Feb >1726/1727, Harvard, MA, d. 17 May 1771 in Townsend, Mass; m. Benjamin >Wilson 26 Nov 1747 in Groton. > >I do not believe this Sarah married Benjamin Wilson. > >My records show that Sarah Whitney (dau. of CORNELIUS Whitney and Sarah >Shepperd) b. 8 Jan 1731/32; d. 17 May 1771; m. 26 Nov 1747 Benjamin Wilson >(son of John Wilson & Elizabeth Foster) b. 18 Sep 1715 in Billerica, Mass; >d. 1 Jun 1774 in Townsend, Mass. >1 child of this union in my database: Oliver Wilson b. 27 Mar 1749 >Townsend, Mass; d. 27 Nov 1812; m. Sarah Heywood (they had 11 children) > >Documentation I have recorded is: >Birth - NEHG Register Vol 11 p225; Bond p644 >Birth & Marriage - NEHG Register Vol 103 p297 > >I quote here from Vol 103 p297 under the heading "Baptisms and Funeral >Services by Rev. Obed Wilson" > >"Obed was the grandson of Benjamin Wilson and Sarah Whitney. Benjamin, >born in Billerica, Mass., 18 Sept. 1715, died in Townsend, Mass., 1 Jun >1774. Sarah was born 8 Jan. 1731, died 17 May 1771, daughter of Cornelius >Whitney and Sarah Shepperd of Groton, Mass., descendant of the first >Whitney child born in America." > >The "first Whitney child born in America" was Joshua, son of John & Elinor >of Watertown. > >Of course, it is possible that 2 separate Sarah Whitney women married 2 >separate Benjamin Wilson men -- but it is unlikely that they were married >on the very same day in the same town. It is also very unlikely that the >two women died on the exact same date in the same town -- so her death date >is incorrect. > >I suggest that our database be changed ... unless, of course, someone else >has other documentation to prove otherwise. > >:-) Jeanne (Whitney) Muse >Sent on: 10/23/97 >----------------------------------------------- >Always looking for information on the surnames: >WHITNEY, GOLDSMITH, MUSE, REED > >See my Roots Home Page at this URL: >http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwmuse/roots.htm >----------------------------------------------- Dear Jeanne and WRG's, Congratulations for finding that entry, as one that is questionable. When I connected these two people,Sarah dau of John and Rebeckah Whitney of Shirley, and Benjamin Wilson of Townsend, I did so with these factors in mind. Location:

    John and Rebeckah lived in a house one mile or more from the Townsend

line on the north, and the Groton line on the east. Shirley became a district of Groton on 29 Nov.1752. In 1747, Groton would have been the home parish of John and Rebeckah's daughter Sarah, and she could have been a near neighbor to the Wilson's in Townsend. Onomastics:

    The children of Sarah Whitney and Benjamin Wilson as recorded in the

Vital Records of Townsend, Massachusetts,(pub. by NEHGS,1992) Pge 212: BEULAH, b.24 Feb.1753; REBECAH b. 31 Mar.1757; JOSEPH b. 22 Sep.1759; JOHN b.16 Oct.1761; SARAH b. 23 Sep.1764; MARY b. 11 Oct.1766; RUBIN b. 4 June 1769. I did not find an OLIVER in the Townsend VR's.

Page 227: LUCY, daughter of Beniaman(sic) and Sarah Wilson, deceased 12 Oct.1752. Her birth is not recorded in Townsend, so I surmised that she was born at Sarah's family home,in Shirley, with her mother in attendance, or she died at birth. Her birth is not recorded in Shirley, either.

BEULAH is the name of John and Rebeckah's other daughter(only sister of Sarah) who died in 1763. I haven't come across any other Beulah in my transcribing Whitneys, in that era in Mass.,that I can recall. Perhaps Peg Sanborn could help there, as she was sorting the Mass. Whitneys, by names, I believe. Rebecah and John are obvious connections. John's wife Rebeckah Whitney is recorded almost without exception with the "ah" ending. Does Rev. Obed Wilson give the same list of children as above? Benjamin Wilson married second, Bathsheba Patts(both of Townsend)on 20 Aug. 1772. Bathsheba appears to be the same Bathsheba Wood of Townsend who married John Patts of Townsend, 7 Nov.1761 and apparently widowed. Does that appear in Rev. Obed's records?

    I live next to Groton and would like to go and view the record there,

in Townsend and Billerica. I probably can do that someday next week, just to satisfy my mind that this Rev. Obed got it right (being the wife of a minister, and sister to two, I know they are fallible!). One would suppose that a grandson's word was reliable but "to err is human", and I would want to know if he had "family Bible records" or he was relying on his memory (especially at an old age). I also give alot of weight to anything NEHGS publishes, but I have seen them return to correct material later, when proven to be in error. So I hope you will hesitate to change this entry until I or someone else has an opportunity to investigate further. Would appreciate all comments on this issue. Thanks, Cheers! Jan Whitaker


From: "Michael L Watts" <mwatts@gate.net> To: <Whitney-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Old letter from Joel Whitney Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 17:40:48 -0400

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researching my Whitney connections in Maine . I thought you might be interested in it.A 1770 Letter from Joseph and Hannah . From the Downeast Ancestry magazine it is

copied as it was written so the spelling is not to good
 
In this letter Joel and Mary (Weston) Whitney

who first settled in Gorham Me. where there oldest child was born. A year after moving to what is now Jonesboro, Joseph and Hannah speak of their wondering about thier move.They also ask Joel to send a record of his brother Daniel’s birth. This was a request from Joels mother through the Westons.

 
     Dear Children 

thes Lins corn with our Harty Love & Respect to you & your Children hoping thay will find you all in helth & prosprity & may inform you that throu the Goodnes & marcy of God on us we ar att this tim in a prity Good measour of health But it is a vari Malonkoli tim with me for it pleased God to Tak away my Son Joseph Weston By Death which was a vari heavi Strok of Devin Providence& which added to the affliction his oldest Son Josiah Died in about Seven weeks after his father & his wife in a week Lo Condition 

our other afars have Bean with a Sor frown of providence for in July the worms prevailed graitly among both grass & Corn & a vari Sor Drouth followed whar By hay is Skars & peopel ar obliged to kil of a great many of thar CattaIl: as for your afar att Gorham  I Did not lick that you war so Disappointed But Did not know what to Say when you was hear But took pains to Inquam  after ward & find the tnou reasion of your Disappointment to Ly with Issac Whitney for in our talk he freely told me that the Doctor cam to Look upon it he went Round the farm with the Doctor & told him the Land was poor & the times war poor & that it was not worth above five or six hundred hound att the most & that he knew you wold not tak So that I believe you will not Sell that Land tal you Do Remove that man of: I was then att harvest a I have him Look about to See how he (?) I should Bee glad if you wood taek Sum pains to go about with him: I Seam to have a mind for him to Look on the west Sid of pleasant River: I should Be Glad for you to give him the Best advice you can --- after the writing of the above I heard that it wod not Do for Josiah to Corn Down for ho could not Bee Entrtained if he should how ever I porpus him to come in the Spring:   for I am Loath to have my Right lost: I was In Som hops that you wood Do Som thing about it for & if he Should not corn you might have it  I had no letter from you But what I heard was from your mother: it was a grait Disapiontment for Josiah not to corn for he was all Redi  I should have wrett Befor nowe but had not oportunity  your Brother Daniel wood have you Send me the Record of his age: So Comending you to God & to the word of Grace Remain your Loveing father & mother
 


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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 22:53:13 To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif">

Subject: Henry-1 WHITNEY Genealogy Online

Dear WRG,

With the help of Jeanne Muse, I have imported the Henry-1 WHITNEY GEDCOM file ctwhit2.ged into TMG v3.0. Then I printed out to a file an HTML-format genealogy report consisting of the first five generations, with mention of the sixth, of the descendants of Henry-1 and (1)----- (-----) WHITNEY of Southold, NY, and Norwalk, CT. This report also includes indexes of names and places. There are 226 family groups, and 635 direct descendants.

This report has now been posted to my website. The main URL is:

  http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/henry/index.html

The files are fairly large (245K for the genealogy, 115K and 81K for the indexes).

Please check it out, and feel free to offer suggestions for improvements. I am aware that parts of it are not grammatical, but the effort to edit this to make it better exceeds the time I have to devote to such a project. If anyone would like to take a copy of these files and improve them, I would be happy to replace what is there with something better.

Anyone wanting a copy of the ctwhit2.ged GEDCOM file, contact Jeanne Muse at JWMUSE@compuserve.com and ask her for it.

I hope this proves useful to the descendants of Henry WHITNEY.

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

From: "Ann O'Hara" <yannster@ptd.net> To: "Barry Whitney" <barryw@therock.mcg.edu>,

       "Cousins" <Whitney-L@rootsweb.com>

Subject: Re: Wills Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 20:35:50 -0400

Yes, I ordered a will from Kansas and it was delivered as promised for $5. I would definitely use the service again.


Original Message-----

From: Barry Whitney <barryw@therock.mcg.edu> To: Cousins <Whitney-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, October 24, 1997 11:23 AM Subject: Wills


>Subject: State List > >http://www.wasatch.com/~dsam/sampubco/states.htm > >Check out this site that offers to make you copies of wills and associated >materials for $5.00 each. NY, PA, Ohio, and about half a dozen other >states are available. The indexes are not too hard to navigate, and if >you know a person's name and place of residence, you can find him/her and >order the copy. I found Erastus Whitney and Betsey (Chadwick) Whitney in >Jefferson County, NY, in 1850's-1870's. Has anyone on our list actually >ordered wills from sampubco? Tell us about it. > >Ever, Barry > >

From: ALLAGREEN@aol.com Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 03:01:44 -0400 (EDT) To: barryw@therock.mcg.edu, Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Wills

Dear Barry and WRG:

I've not ordered wills from David Samuelson, but have corresponded with him about entries in his indexes. I have heard nothing but good things about his services on the other maillists - he is a very regular contributor to NE-Roots. I would not hesitate to recommend him.

Allan

From: ALLAGREEN@aol.com Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 03:01:47 -0400 (EDT) To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Error? - Sarah Whitney & Benjamin Wilson

Dear Jeanne and Jan (and WRG):

Good for you both!! I have to say right out that the discussion and study of this problem that you two have going is exactly what I think this Group is and should be about. I will watch and cheer from the sidelines on this one, however, so have at it. I'm trying to find ways to help some of our newer members get started making connections, but it is often difficult, at least initially.

Hey, Y'all from Dixie: I will get back to the rest of the Southampton W&A entries either tomorrow or Sunday (kids are coming home tomorrow with grandchildren to go to grandma's Mystery Night dinner theatre show - so may be late tomorrow night or Sunday afternoon). Hope that what I've sent through so far has been helpful - I did find Samuel's Joshua, didn't I?

Happy Hunting to all.

Allan

Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 08:27:54 -0400 (EDT) To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com From: janwhit@MA.ultranet.com (Janice Whitaker) Subject: New members and Southerners

Dear Allan and WRG's, I am so delighted that you could help some southerners make connections. I always feel apologetic for living here in the midst of the territory where many Whitneys began there life in this country. I live so close to the earliest towns in MA where they settled first, than moved outward. I am also one town away from southern NH, and a frequent visitor to my home state of ME. It is so easy for me to do research compared with the trouble others across the country must go through. I plan to continue to collect ME VR's, which is a side project while I try to solve other ancestral family puzzles in that state. I would welcome any help in this area from anyone in ME! Also would like to get more data on NH, as well. Incidentally, in looking up Townsend info for my reply to Jeanne, I may have stumbled across the answer to the origin of Evelyn Brown's Aaron Whitney. Will send this info soon, as I don't see this in the database. It may be in the Gedcom 12 which I have yet to successfully obtain. Cheers! Jan


To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Southern Whitneys - Southampton Co., VA Date: Sat, 25 Oct 97 20:56:12 GMT From: jcurbo@llano.net (Jo Ann Curbo)

I've been off the Whitney list for a while and I don't know what's been going on with the Southern lines. But this is really good Southern Whitney data. Thanks, -- Jo Ann Curbo P.O. Box 584 Lorenzo, TX 79343 jcurbo@llano.net

From: "Max R. Colgrove" <ces@futureone.com>

To: <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Whitney of VT & MA Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 18:49:22 -0600

Thomas Whitney, the son of Benjamin Whitney, was born at Peperell, MA. He married Betsy Wallis at Tunbridge, Orange, VT. Betsy in 1826. Thomas remarried. He links will be appreciated.

Max ces@futureone.com

From: Hogle1@aol.com Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 21:25:17 -0400 (EDT) To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Minnesota Whitneys

Hello WRG

As I was sorting through some of my notes on my own Whitneys, I came across the following notes I had made of other, unrelated Whitneys, that settled in Minnesota.

These were all taken from the issues of the Minnesota Genealogical Journal - with volumes noted.

Volume #1

Pages 95 and 96 reference marriages "performed by Joseph C WHITNEY M.O.G." February,1853 and October 1850 in Washington County, MN. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Volume #2

Page 139 reference to marriage performed by E.H. WHITNEY 4/1870 Page 168 reference to marriage witnessed by Eliza B WHITNEY 4/1870 Page 168 reference to marriage performed by Joseph C WHITNEY - witnessed by

       Eliza B WHITNEY

Page 172 reference to marriage performed by Joseph C WHITNEY Page 170 reference to marriage performed by Lyman WHITNEY 1/22/1857

Page 106 quoting from The Minnesota Pioneer (1852) - Vol III No 49 Thursday 25 March 1852

"At a meeting of the Excelsior Club, No.1, of Temperance Watchman,.....remove from our midst by death, brother Joel WHITNEY,..." (and) "Died, at St Paul, on Monday the 22nd instant Mr Joel WHITNEY, late of Maine, aged about 65 years."

[note - might this be Joel Whitney b 7 May 1787 Gorham, Maine - son of Micah and Hannah (Cobb) Whitney?]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Volume #3

Page 266 - Hennepin County Marriage Records (1858) Vol I page 148A WHITNEY, John of St Anthony m 26 July 1856 NUVE(?), Penelope

Page 266 - Hennepin County Marriage Records (1858) Vol I page 148C ALLEN, Jesse of state of Pennsylvania m 11 May 1858 WHITNEY, Sarah of Minneapolis

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Volume #4

page 305 Letters held at St Paul Post Office 2/12/1852 WHITNEY, Solomon

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Volume #5 No Whitney references

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Volume #6

Page 550 Extracts from records of Old Settlers Assoc of Dakota County "George Haskell WHITNEY born Brooklyn, Minnesota 16Nov1855 son of Ephraim B and Elizabeth Noyes (Wakefield) WHITNEY. Settled in Farmington, Spring 1872."

Page 551 Extracts from records of Old Settlers Assoc of Dakota County "Mrs Phoebe Anna Bradbury, born Crystal Lake, Minn 22Jan1858, daughter of Joseph and Susan Walton WHITNEY. Married 2Apr1873, Chas Henry Bradbury, who was born Denmark, Maine 2Aug1854. Arrived in Minn 22Jan1858 and settled in Farmington, 1872."

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Volume #7 No Whitney references

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Volume #8

Page 768

JC (Joseph C) WHITNEY, Presbyterian Minister, performed marriage 5Nov1859 Eliza B WHITNEY witness marriages also performed 1/1/1860; 8/8/1860; 10/10/1060; 9/27/1860

Augusta E WHITNEY of Meeker Co married 17Oct1867 Jannette Deputy witness: Winfield WHITNEY

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Hope this information may be helpful to someone in the group.

Jo Hogle HOGLE1@aol.com

From: FernElaine@aol.com Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 00:21:09 -0400 (EDT) To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Whitney-Twitchell

Has anyone done any research on the TWITCHELL family?

We have Sylvia Twitchell b. ca. 1790 to --------Twitchell and Sally --------

.Sally m. 2nd.

Stafford and d. ca. 1841 Washington twp., Erie Co., PA. Besides

Sylvia she had Gardner Twitchell and Harlstone Twitchell (not sure of spelling of this first name).

Sylvia Twitchell m. 15 July 1810 Abel Whitney at Athol, MA. They both d. at Edinboro, Erie Co., PA. Abel Whitney was b. 21 May 1790 at Orange, MA.

We found quite a few Twitchells at Salt Lake City, but have not been able to connect to any of them.

Thanks in advance for any hints. Fern & Ralph Whiteley.


Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 09:40:06 To: <ces@futureone.com>, WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Whitney of VT & MA

At 06:49 PM 10/25/97 -0600, you wrote: >Thomas Whitney, the son of Benjamin Whitney, was born at Peperell, MA. He >married Betsy Wallis at Tunbridge, Orange, VT. Betsy in 1826. Thomas >remarried. He links will be appreciated. > >Max >ces@futureone.com

Max,

I find record of Thomas-6 WHITNEY, b. 15 Jul 1780, Pepperell, MA, son of Lt. Benjmain-5 and (2)Rebecca (FITCH) WHITNEY [Joseph-4, Joseph-3, Jonathan-2, John-1], who seems virtually certain to be yours. I have no further data on Thomas-6, but I can supply full family information about Benjamin-5. See also the following web page:

  http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/john/num197.html#772

There you will find information about Benjamin-5 and his ancestors.

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

Date: Sun, 26 Oct 97 16:39:29 0000 From: Christine Baker <baker@datasys.net> To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Myron O Whitney

Myron O Whitney also married a Anna Cullen and they had several children one of which was my Grandmother Ruth Priscilla Whitney. If you would like my information to add to your database I will be happy to send it to you. I just have never sent information over the internet and what do you need as verification? THankyou Christine Baker



Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 11:54:27 -0500 (EST) To: Hogle1@aol.com From: janwhit@MA.ultranet.com (Janice Whitaker) Subject: Minnesota Whitneys Cc: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com

Dear Jo Hogle,

    On 10/26, you forwarded notes on Whitneys from th Minnesota

Genealogical Journal and can identify some entries as follows: Vol.#2 page 139 reference to marriage performed by E.H.Whitney 4/1870.

This is Rev. Ephraim Hildreth Whitney,(Pierce #4796) a Methodist minister, oldest son of Olive (Parlin) and William Whitney(Samuel, Abner, John, Isaiah, Thomas, John) b. 30 Dec. 1813, Freeman,ME. He m. 25 July, 1844, Jane H.Hunt at East Branch, ME. After the death of his father he went to Meeker County MN with his mother,bothers Orrin, Albion P., Benjamin P. and sister Julia Averil(Joseph). When the others went on to Sonoma Co. CA, he, Orrin and Julia remained in or near Kingston,MN. I have further notes on this family if anyone is interested. [I would be interested if you have any info on brother Eleazer P. who went to Colorado, was married and had two daughter.]

Vol.#2 page 106 Minnesota Pioneer Vol III No 49, Thurs 25 March,1852: "Died, at St Paul, on Monday the 22nd instant Mr. Joel Whitney, late of Maine,aged about 65Yrs.

Yes this is Joel E. Whitney b. 7 May,1787, Gorham, ME s/o Micah and Hannah

(Cobb)Whitney. He had several children (by two wives),some of whom went to St Paul MN. There is a Bio of him in "A Genealogical History of Freeman, Maine 1796-1938 by George A.and F.Janet Thompson, Heritage Books, Inc. Volume three.

Volume #8 page 768. Augusta E. Whitney of Meeker Co married 17 Oct.1867 Jannette Deputy, Witness:Winfield Whitney.

Refer to Whitneys above mentioned, these are the two sons of Orrin and Hannah (Fairbanks) Whitney. Pierce spells the name Augustus and his wife as Nettie Depity, but we know that he made errors.

Interested in any and all data you have on any Whitneys in MN. Thanks.Cheers! Jan


Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:57:10 -0500 (EST) To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com From: janwhit@MA.ultranet.com (Janice Whitaker) Subject: Publication "Whitney Families of Maine"

Dear WRG's,

    I have purchased a copy of "Whitney Families of Maine", compiled by

Rev.Chas.N. Sinnett of Fertile MN, which may interest some of you. It was reprinted in 1986, the publisher believes there aren't any copyrights on it. She found it probably in the Maine State Library. The author produced many family genealogies from the southern Maine area and is considered not very accurate or reliable. This publication has only the following Whitney men and their descendants: JOHN WHITNEY of New Meadow, Brunswick, ME (brief facts) lived at York,ME; children recorded in York;moved to New Meadows in 1739;m. Lettis Ford.

JOSEPH WHITNEY of Gorham & Lubec ME b. Gorham 18 Oct.1784; d.Lubec 28 Oct.1841; m. Nancy Hunter of Topsham 15 Jan.1819(I believe he was son of Joseph and 2nd wife Betty Phinney).

ABIZER WHITNEY of Lisbon, Maine. b. Lisbon 21 Mar.1794;d.at New Orleans, LA 1864;no ancestry given;m. Betsy White of Bowdoin, ME, 1794,who d. Augusta 1840.

Index contains these Whitney names:ABBIE LOUISE,ABIZER ALBERT,ALICE MARY,ANN JULIA,BENJAMIN,CARRIE,CHARLES,DAVID W.,EDWARD L.,EDWIN,ELIZABETH,ELLA CHARITY, ETHEL IRENE,FLORA,FRANCES,FRANKLIN PATTEN,FREDERICK MONTSELOW,GEORGE,GRACE, HANNAH, HAVILLAH, HEPZIBAH,HERBERT ISAAC, HORACE JERE, ISREAL WASHBURN, JAMES HENRY, JANE HUNTER,JEREMIAH FOWLER,JOHN,JONATHAN,JOSEPH,JULIA,LETTIS,LYDIA, MARGARET MARY, MARTHA, MARY, MEHITABLE,MERCY, NELLIE L,PETER BRADSTREET, ROBERT PATTEN, RUTH S.,SADIE HAMILTON, SAMUEL, SARAH W., SUSANNAH,VILLA DUTTON, WALTER ERNEST, WILLIAM SPRAGUE, WILLIS S.

Copies of this booklet may be obtained for $3.78(includes postage), send check or m.o. to EXCEPTIONAL ENTERPRIZES, 9 KEYES ST. FAIRFIELD, ME 04937. Inexpensive and just may help someone solve a puzzle. Cheers! Jan


Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 11:02:19 -0800 From: knights <knights@badger.tds.net> To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com CC: GWLQ21A@prodigy.com Subject: Edward Whitney VT & NY

A month or so ago my sister posted a message re: Edward Whitney looking for ancestors and other info. No luck with that but we have gotten more info re:decendants. Maybe this will ring a bell with someone out there.

This info comes from a recent letter from Arthur Whitney, living resident of Granville, NY and copies of newspaper articles send from James and Carolyn Gibbs Whitney of Granville. Carolyn is Nancy Johnson's grandniece, now married to James Whitney. Our great grandmother, Nancy Johnson Whitney,per an undated newspaper article, unknown paper, recorded her family back to 1660 with the registrar of Wells,VT or possibly Wells, NY, as both exist, but Wells, VT more likely as it is closer to family's residences. I've requested a copy.

Here's our Whitney info

Edward Whitney & Adelaide Balch Whitney their son William Whitney b. 1857 Sandgate VT d. Middle Granville, NY 10 Feb 1931 m. April 1880 Rutland? VT Nancy Jewett Johnson b. 9 Jun 1861 Granville, NY (dau. of M/m T. Dwight Johnson of Middle Granville, NY) d. 10 Nov. 1939.

Family lived in Pawlet, Rutland Co, VT 1900, per census; vol 10, Ed 199 sheet 2, line 29, Nat'l Archives Waltham, MA

What we've learned about William & Nancy's children and their families:

Fred b. Oct 1881 NY m. Elmina Brown, Lived in Slyboro (VT?NY?)

    1939,Children
    Leonard m. Easter? Esther,
         son Arthur of Granville, NY
         grandson Peter
    Nancy, m Fred Johnson
    Paul, m. Jessie Bounds
    Raymond m. Mary Hyde.
         son Louis,
         grandson James of Granville
    Beatrice, m. Maurice Palmer
    George, m. Marion Brayton
    Walter m. Alice Smith
    Guy, M. Annette? Frolley

Maude b. Aug 1883 NY m. Fred Collins, lived in Worester, MA

    children
    George Collins
    Fred Collins
    Doris ?

Marion b. Apr. 1885, NY m. William Gleason, lived in Hartford CT.

    Marion not mentioned in Nancy's obit (1939) as survivor,
    assume d. before 1939? Arthur did not know her.

Dwight b. Mar 1887 NY lived in Granville 1939

    Children
    Kenneth
    Liclia Springer
    Harold

Gertrude b. June 1891, NY

    Not mentioned as survivor in either obit. William 1931, or
    Nancy 1939.    Arthur did not know much about her either.

Ione b. Nov 1893, d. 1983 Dorset Vt. m. Phillip Chaplin Hoyt, 11 Nov 1933, Springfield MA (of Old Orchard Beach and Bridgton, ME) Lived in Wrentham, MA

    Children
    Norma b. 1927 VT. (presumably out of wedlock). Ione named as Miss
    Ione Whitney in William's obit 1931.  Norma does not know of her

father.

    Marvis, b. Mar 1935

William b. Jul 1895 m. Leana or Jeana Jones, lived in Rutland and Poultney VT

    children
    Clara
    Alice
    Elaine
    Marjorie
    Elton

Anna b. Nov. 1899 VT m. George Henry, lived in St. George, Nova Scotia in

    1931 and Milton, Ontario in 1939
    Children
    Helen
    James
    Evelyn
    Anna
    Robert

Roy b. ~1901 m. Irene ? lived in Raceville (NY or VT?) in 1939

    Children
    Thelma
    Donald
    Roger

If anyone can contribute further info we'd be delighted to hear from you.

Colleen Knights & Diana Frazer

Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 17:07:52 -0500 From: POWDER1 <KCLAR@csrlink.net>

To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: nathan whitney/ rosetta whitney

I am trying to solve a link in family; have a rose whitney b. 1859 d. 1922 in PA, father was a Rev Nathan Whitney. Please email with any help

Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 20:52:29 -0500 (EST) To: JWMUSE@compuserve.com From: janwhit@MA.ultranet.com (Janice Whitaker) Subject: Sarah Whitney and Benjamin Wilson Cc: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com

Dear Jeanne and WRG's,

     Here's some family confusion, and another Whitney connection to this

issue! I found this surfing Gendex last night and consulted my VR's, as well. Cornelius' sister Alice Whitney married Nathaniel Woods of Groton. They had a daughter Bathsheba Woods b. in Oxford, MA 1702. Bathsheba Woods married Collins Moore from Sudbury, and they produced Bathsheba Moore,b.10 Feb.1731/32 in Oxford, MA. Bathsheba Moore married first, Ephraim Woods, 1750/51 in Oxford, MA; married second, John Petts(Patts in Townsend VR's) 7 Nov.1761 in Townsend, MA; married third, Benjamin Wilson 20 Aug.1772, Townsend, MA. So, if I am reading this correctly,(and Cornelius'daughter Sarah married Benjamin Wilson) then when Sarah died, her husband married her first cousin once removed.

    Another gem I found was that there was another Beulah Whitney,

daughter of Joshua(Nathaniel, Nathaniel, John, John) Whitney and Mehitable Wilson, b. 1745 and married John Ball. Does anyone know if this Beulah is possibly related to either Sarah daughter of Cornelius or Benjamin Wilson?

    Your reference to Rev. Obed Wilson's life suddenly rang a bell, and I

realized that I have a copy of "Marriages by Rev.Obed Wilson of Bingham, Maine" published in the "Down East Ancestry" vol.I, No. I, June 1977! I had been seeking the correct birthplace for Olive Parlin wife of William Whitney(Samuel, Abner, John, Isaiah, Thomas, John).[my ggggrandparents] Parlins were early settlers in that "neck of the woods". Olive's uncles were among the first settlers in Norridgewock, and her parents died and are buried in nearby Starks. So, Oliver Wilson and his wife Sarah were contemporaries in Concord,MA, and the northern Kennebec River area of Maine. Interesting, to me anyhow. Cheers! Jan


From: Hogle1@aol.com Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 21:15:32 -0500 (EST) To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Publication "Whitney Families of Maine"

In a message dated 97-10-26 18:49:03 EST, you write:

<< The author produced

many family genealogies from the southern Maine area and is considered not
very accurate or reliable. >>

I have to ask. Is this a typo? If not, and his information is not accurate or reliable, why would we want to use it? I am just confused. And I do confuse easily.

Jo Hogle HOGLE1@aol.com

From: "Doneva Shepard" <Doneva@wcn.net> To: "Janice Whitaker" <janwhit@MA.ultranet.com> Cc: <Whitney-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: Sarah Whitney and Benjamin Wilson Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 19:08:24 -0800

And, don't forget "my" Benjamin wilson . . .

John Whitney and Elizabeth Smith's daughter, Elizabeth Whitney, b 1763 Ridgefield, CT

       m. Joseph Keeler

their son, Joseph Keeler, b. 8 Apr 1713

       m. Jane Wilson, dau. Benjamin Wilson and
                                         wife Jane Olmsted

Does this make sense to anybody or am I furthering the confusion?

Cheerio, Doneva shepard Doneva@wcn.net




Original Message-----

From: Janice Whitaker <janwhit@MA.ultranet.com> To: JWMUSE@compuserve.com <JWMUSE@compuserve.com> Cc: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, October 26, 1997 6:05 PM Subject: Sarah Whitney and Benjamin Wilson


>Dear Jeanne and WRG's, > Here's some family confusion, and another Whitney connection to this >issue! I found this surfing Gendex last night and consulted my VR's, as >well. >Cornelius' sister Alice Whitney married Nathaniel Woods of Groton. They had >a daughter Bathsheba Woods b. in Oxford, MA 1702. >Bathsheba Woods married Collins Moore from Sudbury, and they produced >Bathsheba Moore,b.10 Feb.1731/32 in Oxford, MA. >Bathsheba Moore married first, Ephraim Woods, 1750/51 in Oxford, MA; >married second, John Petts(Patts in Townsend VR's) 7 Nov.1761 in Townsend, MA; >married third, Benjamin Wilson 20 Aug.1772, Townsend, MA. >So, if I am reading this correctly,(and Cornelius'daughter Sarah married >Benjamin Wilson) then when Sarah died, her husband married her first cousin >once removed. > Another gem I found was that there was another Beulah Whitney, >daughter of Joshua(Nathaniel, Nathaniel, John, John) Whitney and Mehitable >Wilson, b. 1745 and married John Ball. Does anyone know if this Beulah is >possibly related to either Sarah daughter of Cornelius or Benjamin Wilson? > Your reference to Rev. Obed Wilson's life suddenly rang a bell, and I >realized that I have a copy of "Marriages by Rev.Obed Wilson of Bingham, >Maine" published in the "Down East Ancestry" vol.I, No. I, June 1977! I >had been seeking the correct birthplace for Olive Parlin wife of William >Whitney(Samuel, Abner, John, Isaiah, Thomas, John).[my ggggrandparents] >Parlins were early settlers in that "neck of the woods". Olive's uncles >were among the first settlers in Norridgewock, and her parents died and are >buried in nearby Starks. So, Oliver Wilson and his wife Sarah were >contemporaries in Concord,MA, and the northern Kennebec River area of >Maine. Interesting, to me anyhow. Cheers! Jan > >

From: ALLAGREEN@aol.com Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 01:32:40 -0500 (EST) To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: More Southampton Co., VA Wills & Admin.

Dear WRG:

Here are the remainder of the wills and other documents for Whitneys extracted from the W & A book by Chapman for Southampton Co., VA.

7) BULLS, William: Leg. - wife Marthan; son Jesse; son William; son Benjamin; son John; daughter Patty; grandson Thomas Gwin. Exs. friend Joshua Whitney and Jessee Bulls. D. Dec. 23, 1760. R. Marchy 12, 1767. Wit. John Joyner, Hardy Pope, Joshua Miniard. Page 189, WB II. [Sthmptn Co. W&A, p. 39]

8) WHITNEY, Joshua: Exs. Margery Whitney and John Joyner. Paid the levy for Semour Sweny, who lived a year with the said Whitney; paid William Joyner Jr. in the right of his wife, her part of her father's estate for whom the said Whitney was administrator; paid Jesse Miniard his part as above; paid legacies to Joshua, Elisha and Giles Whitney. Examined by Lemuel Jones and Henry Joyner. R. Oct. 8, 1772, Page 5, WB III. [Sthmptn Co. W&A, p. 56]

9) JONES, Nathan: Leg. - brother Thomas Jones; wife Mary with reversion to cousin Mary, daughter of Blyth Williiams; if without heirs to Ann now wife of Joshua Whitney. Ex., friend Lemuel Jones. D. Sept. 20, 1777. R. Dec. 11, 1777. Wit., Martha Johnson, Ann Johnson, Mary and William Doyle. Lemuel Jones refused to act as Ex., Mary Jones qualified. Page 182, WB III.

[Sthmptn Co. W&A, p. 70]

10) WHITNEY, Giles: April 1783. Inventory. R. Nov. 13, 1783. Page 43, WB IV [Sthmptn Co. W&A, p. 99]

11) BRADSHAW, Martha: Leg. - daughter Penelipa Griffin; daughter Rody; to Joseph Bradshaw. Ex., Edward Griffin. D. Oct. 8, 1786. R. Feb. 11, 1791.

Wit. Arthur Turner, Joshua Whitney, Chasey Bradshaw.  P. 411, WB IV.
[Sthmptn Co. W&A, p. 124]

12) JONES, Mary: Parish of Nottoway. Leg. - cousin Mary Williams. Ex., Elisha Whitney. D. June 1, 1783. R. April 10, 1794. Wit., Joshua Whitney, Jemima Hatfield, Ann Whitney. Page 623, WB IV. [Sthmptn Co. W&A, p. 137]

13) JONES, Mary: Estate appraised by Joseph Denson, Henry Jones, and Toomer Joyner. Signed, Elisha Whitney. D. April 1794. R. Oct. 9, 1794. Page 645, WB IV. [Sthmptn Co. W&A, p. 139]

14) WILLIAMS, Henry. Account Current. Signed, Arthur Bowen, Adm. D. 1788.

Paid William Boykin, guardian of Sally and Elizabeth Williams; paid Shadrack

Corbett for his wife; paid Elisha Whitney for his wife. Audited by Sam. Kello and Saml. Kello, Jr. R. Aug 20, 1798. Page 74, WB V. [Sthmptn Co. W&A, p. 160]

This book stops with 1800, so any further Whitney documents from Southampton County must be from another source, including, of course, the Court House in Courtland, VA.

This is all I have at home on Isle of Wight and Southampton Counties. I hope it has been helpful to some of the Southern Whitneys.

I have just heard about someone running Reunion on a Mac that has had a problem taking in Whitney12 via the gedcom circulated. Is there anyone in the WRG who has successfully imported Witney12.ged into Reunion on a Mac? If so, you have at least one compatriot out there who has not yet been able to do so, and would probably appreciate hearing about your success so as to find out how to duplicate it.

Happy Hunting:-)

Allan

To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: More Southampton Co., VA Wills & Admin. Date: Mon, 27 Oct 97 14:25:40 GMT From: jcurbo@llano.net (Jo Ann Curbo) References: <"HiFsrC.A.bcD.eQDV0"@bl-14.rootsweb.com>

I only got the last two emails on Southampton Co., VA Wills & Admin. Have the Whitney exchanges been archived some where? How do I get copies of the previous entries for Southhampton Co., VA? -- Jo Ann Curbo P.O. Box 584 Lorenzo, TX 79343 jcurbo@llano.net

Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 06:39:17 -0800 From: Paul and Brenda Nichols <pauli007@pacbell.net>

To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Fwd: DURHAM WHITNEYS]

Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 18:39:55 -0800 From: Paul and Brenda Nichols <pauli007@pacbell.net> To: ALLAGREEN@aol.com Subject: DURHAM WHITNEYS

Good evening, Allan.

 I'm doing some transcribing of cemetery records for Durham, Me, and

The following are in there. Thought you'd like them just in case you didn't have them.

Whitney
    Abram          1798 - 1850    Sawyer Cem.
    Ann Conant     1800 - 1888    Sawyer Cem.
    Joshua K.      1818 - 1893    Jones  Cem.
    Orilla C. 1807 - 1891    Jones  Cem.
 Thats it.
 Paul of San Diego


Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:09:37 -0500 From: Tree@OasisTech.com (Richard Welch) To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: "The Whitneys" by Edwin P. Hoyt References: <3454A795.4304@pacbell.net>

As time permits: I will do look-ups of indexed names.

The more info, the better.

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From: jcurbo@llano.net To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: "The Whitneys" by Edwin P. Hoyt Date: Mon, 27 Oct 97 22:49:15 GMT References: <3454A795.4304@pacbell.net>

<"RlHE8.A.ZZG.w9QV0"@bl-14.rootsweb.com>

Could you please look for Mary Whitney b ca 1750 probably NC. Granddaughter of Joshua Whitney of Isles of Wight, VA married an Elkins. Thanks JoAnn jcurbo@llano.net


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> As time permits: I will do look-ups of indexed names. > > The more info, the better. > > -- > \\\|/// > \\ ~ ~ // > ( @ @ ) > +------------------oOOo- (_) --oOOo-----------------+ > |W*elch,W*ittwer,M*auchly,Z*immerman,S*tone,Z*eigler | > |R*yf,A*mstutz,L*ewis,H*ardee,T*yson,S*chochli,W*eber| > |Z*urfluh,S*pychiger,M*osser,A*mstutz,N*euenschwander| > |N*ussbaum,S*hitz,H*enry,M*osteller,A*bel,M*ay,F*ish | > |M*allory,M*etzger,M*organ,T*immons,B*rooks,L*eichti | > |F*ields,C*herry,M*oore,R*ouse,McG*owan,M*oye,C*orey | > +-----------------------------Oooo.------------------+ > I'm ( ) > Richard Welch .oooO ) / tree@oasistech.com > TAMPA ( ) (_/ > \ ( Searchin' > \_) >


Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 19:59:02 -0500 From: Jeanne Muse <JWMUSE@compuserve.com> Subject: Joseph & Mary Hastings & Anna Palmer Sender: Jeanne Muse <JWMUSE@compuserve.com> To: 1ALLWHITNEYS <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com>

Hello all! Have found a little information for Whitney 13, plus some tidbits for a recent question about

Joseph-5 WHITNEY (Timothy-4, John-3, John-2, John-1) who married Mary HASTINGS and (Mrs.) Anna PALMER.

A contributor to the CD "Kindred Konnections" lists this about them:

Husband: Cpl. Joseph Whitney Born: 21 Feb 1715/16, Watertown, MA (place is wrong; should be Roxbury per VRs) Married: 26 Oct 1749, Newton, MA (confirmed in Newton VRs) Father: Timothy Whitney Mother: Margaret Bacon

Wife: Mary Hastings Born: 16 Dec 1725 Father: Samuel Hastings Mother: Bethia Holloway

Child: Pvt. Samuel Whitney Born: 5 Aug 1758, Warwick, MA Died: 1 Jun 1831 Married: 24 Jun 1778, Worcester, MA (confirmed in Worcester VRs)

Spouse: Mary Whitney Born: 19 Jun 1761, Worcester, MA (confirmed in Worcester VRs) Died: 27 Apr 1835, Gilsum, NH Father: Capt. Joshua Whitney Mother: Mary Clarke

This makes the above Mary-6 WHITNEY (Joshua-5, Daniel-4, Benjamin-3, John-2, John-1)

Children of Samuel Whitney & Mary Whitney: 1) Lydia Whitney b. 6 Sep 1793 Gilsum, NH d. 25 Jan 1887 Wellsboro, PA marr. 18 May 1873 in Gilsum, NH James Locke

2) Daniel Whitney

Unfortunately no mention of a marriage to Anna Palmer anywhere on the CD. I'm still digging for more info on her. I'll keep you posted!

BTW, there are numerous children listed in the Worcester MA vital records for both Joshua-5 Whitney (& Mary Clarke) as well as for Samuel-6 Whitney (& Mary Whitney)

-) Jeanne (Whitney) Muse

jwmuse@compuserve.com 10/27/97

From: AwhitneyB@aol.com Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 23:44:05 -0500 (EST) To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Ebenezer Whitney

This is from a pamphlet I found at the Norwalk public library, dated 1946.

The pamplet introduces it's subject first:

"A deed recorded at Pomfret, Conn. dated Nov. 18, 1728, a copy of which is appended to this article, affords the link by which a numerous group of Whitney and related families are joined to the parent stem of John and Elinor Whitney's already much-branched and fruitful tree whose roots, according to Henry Melville in his "Ancestry of John Whitney', go back to the year 1066 to Turstin the Fleming, son of Rolf, one of the followers of William the Conqueror"...etc, etc.( he continues for a while about the illustrious Whitney background) then- "In the deed mentioned, Ezekiel Whitney pays his respects to his mother, Anna Whitney, relict of Ebenezer Whitney, deceased, and quit claims certain rights to his brothers and sisters, sons and daughter of Ebenezer Whitney, whom he names as follows: Zachariah, Enoch, Israel, Ebenezer and Anna. Pierce, in his genealogy, lists Ebenezer3 Whitney, (Richard2, John1) and records that he married Anna ____ and had Zachariah and Esther, who married Wm. Biggenton and died Oct. 19 1727. This death record of Esther is found at Pomfret, CT, accompanied by the statement that her death and the fact that she was daughter of Ebenezer Whitney were recorded at the request of both Zachariah Whitney and William Biggenton. It is shown, therefore, that Ezekiel, Enoch, Israel, Ebenezer, and Anna may now be added to Pierce's record of Zachariah and Esther as the children of Ebenezer and Anna." The author, Edward Raymond Sandiford, then names the descendants of Enoch Whitney, from which he is descended. I will post them in a separate message, as this one is getting long. Please stop me if everyone knows all this already. By the way, the deed is appended as stated if anyone would like me to post it. A. Whitney Brown.

From: AwhitneyB@aol.com Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 00:46:22 -0500 (EST) To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Hezekiah Whitney, b. 1748, Preston, CT

>From the pamphlet, "Some more desendants of John and Elinore Whitney" by Edward Raymond Sandiford.

After listing the children of Ebenezer3 (Richard2, John1) Mr. Sandiford list

the children of Enoch4 (Ebenezer3, Richard 2, John1), one of whom was Hezekiah. "Hezekiah Whitney- note- Hezekiah's pension papers at Washington, D.C., give the information that after his marriage he removed from Plainfield to that part of the Society of New Preston that in 1779 became Washington, CT; that he served two terms in the Revolution, a total of 6 years, that he was at the surrender of Burgoyne at Saratoga, and at West Point when Major Andre was captured. In their later years both hea and his wife were badly cripple with rheumatism. In 1818 he applied for and got a pension. Joseph Whitney of Warren, CT, by affidavit attested to his brother's service and thereby identified himself as a son of Enoch Whitney. Hezekiah Whitney b. Dec 26, 1748, Preston, CT

 d. Dec 20, 1827, Washington, CT
 m. Olive Knight, d. of John and Eleanor (Wood) Knight "in Fall of 1774" by

Rev. Alexander Miller. she d. Dec 7, 1849, Washington, CT. Children: 1. Elisha, b. ca. 1775, Washington, CT. (In 1800 census he was under 26 yrs. but at death in 1862 his age was given as 89) {his descendants are listed later, I will transcribe in another post-AWB} m. Rachel Frost, d. of Samuel and Sarah (Cooper) Frost. 2. Squire, b. Sept 3, 1778, Washington, CT

               d. June 27, New Preston, CT (church record)
              m. _______(wife's name not known but death of his child is

rec. at church

                  in New Preston.)Note-He enlisted from New Milford and

served in The

                 War of 1812.

3. Thomas b. Apr. 19, 1779, Washington, CT (was living at New Preston Oct 1815) 4. Betsey b. Nov 4, 1782, Washington 5. Abial b. _______

                  d. 1877 at New Milford, CT
                  m. June 21, 1842, at Warren CT, Fanny M. Gary of Fishkill,

NY. (Had at least one child, Emily, m. ______Fredenburg. (Probate rec. of New Milford) 6. David b.______, Washington, CT

               d. Apr. 23, 1858, Washington (age 65)  (was living at  New

Preston when his child died, 1828) 7. Diadama b. ___________(living with her parents in 1818 as mentioned in her father's pension affidavit)

The author then goes on to detail the children of Elisha Whitney: Marshall Frost b. Nov 9 1802, and Laura Marilla, born Mar 9, 1805, and the children of Marshal Frost Whitney and Esther Betsey Warner. For another post.

From: AwhitneyB@aol.com Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 03:04:51 -0500 (EST) To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Enoch Whitney of Plainfield, Preston, Kent, CT

>From a pamphlet titled "Some more Descendants of John and Elinore Whitney" by Edward Raymond Sandiford, 1946. (Earlier Post) The author gives as his sources 1. vital records of town named, 2. pension papers of Hezekiah Whitney, 3. Record written in 1874 by Jason Frost Whitney in possession of writer, 4. Family records in possession of writer. I'll post them one generation at a time. First:

Enoch4 Whitney (Ebenezer3, Richard2, John1)

b. ca. 1708 (He deeded certain rights April 30, 1730, so must have been of

age then)

d._____
m. Dec 21, 1732, at Plainfield, CT, Thankful Parke, d. of William and Jane

(Bordwyn) Parke of Plainfield, CT. She b. June 27, 1717 at Plainfield.

 Children:

1. Samuel, b. May 24, 1734, Plainfield, CT

                d. Sept 30, 1812, Woodbury, CT.
                 m. ______, Sarah_______, (d. Sept. 14, 1796, Woodbury.)
                  Children: Samuel, b. 1772 d. 1776, Woodbury
                                 Reuben, b. 1777, d. 1796, Woodbury

2.Susanna b. Mar. 13, 1739, Plainfield 3. Rosanna b. Aug. 29, 1740, Plainfield 4. Asa b. July 10, 1742, at Preston, CT 5. Thankful b. Apr. 8, 1747, Preston 6. Hezekiah b. Dec. 26, 1748 (his descendants are listed, will post another time)

                   d. Dec. 20, 1827, Washington, CT, m. Olive Knight in fall

of 1774 7. Joseph b. June 18, 1753, Kent, CT 8. Sarah b. June 18, 1756, Kent, CT

The children of Hezekiah were, Elisha, Squire, Thomas, Betsey, Abial, David, Diadama. I noticed a query about a Diadama once, typically weird and unusual Whitney name. I'll put them in another post under Hezekiah. A. Whitney Brown

Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:16:25 -0700 (MST) From: Pamela Wojahn <pwojahn@carbon.cudenver.edu>

To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Whitney, Nichols

Eleanor Nichols was born oct. 24, 1822 in Collins, Erie, NY. Her father was Jonathan Nichols and mother was Mary Whitney of NY.

Eleanor married a Squire Cogswell born on Dec. 14, 1820 inMardon, Monroe, NY. They were married Dec. 15, 1843. Their daughter was Ann Elizabeth Cogswell born Oct. 15, 1844 in Mount Morris, Livingston, NY.

If any one has any info on my Mary Whitney I would appreciate it. Even if they are leads to her parents.

Thank you.


From: ALLAGREEN@aol.com Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 13:39:27 -0500 (EST) To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Fwd: Halberts under Cease & Desist Order -National Genealogical Society

Dear WRG:

We had some discussion about this a year ago, so I thought this update would be valuable to our members.

Allan


Forwarded message: From: EEVS@AOL.COM (Ed Van Schaick) Sender: NORTHEAST-ROOTS-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU (Genealogy and history in the New England area.) To: NORTHEAST-ROOTS-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU Date: 97-10-29 11:33:58 EST

Annette, and all others who are concerned with suspicious offers, please read this post.

If you are aware of a company that you believe is practicing deception, please let the Consumer Protection Committee of the National Genealogical Society know about it so that the offer or practice can be investigated.

Ed Van Schaick Member Consumer Protection Committee National Genealogical Society

Halbert's Under Cease and Desist Order

Halbert's, Inc., of Bath, Ohio, a mail order firm that markets surname products, has agreed to the provisions of a cease and desist order issued by the United States Postal Service (USPS) in November 1995. "Halbert's " "Family Book Offer," and "Historic Book Offer" are trade names used by Numa Corporation of Akron, Ohio.

On 23 March 1995, the National Genealogical (NGS), with the support of the Federation of Genealogical Societies (FGS), submitted to the United States Postal Service's Chief Counsel, Consumer Protection, a 120-page report on Halbert's marketing practices with the request that these practices be investigated.

NGS and FGS also launched a "grass roots" campaign to encourage the participation and cooperation of genealogists nationwide. A brochure and companion flyer entitled "PSSST! Wanna Buy Your Name?" were mailed to genealogical societies and libraries. Societies were asked to reprint the cartoon and brochure text in their newsletters. Librarians were asked to post the flyer on their bulletin boards. As a result, many people wrote to NGS and its Ethics Committee about the solicitation materials they had received from Halbert's, and others wrote directly to the U.S. Postal Inspection Service.

On 21 November 1995, the Postal Service issued a supplemental cease and desist order prohibiting Halbert's from further use of certain misleading marketing practices, which included a consent agreement signed by Halbert's. Previous cease and desist orders issued against Halbert's in 1985 and 1988 remain in effect.

- The supplemental order issued in November 1995 includes the following provisions: Halbert's was ordered to desist from falsely representing ". .. .that (1) a solicitation for a surname-related product was sent by a relative of the solicitee; (2) a relative of a solicitee was involved in preparing a surname-related publication; or that (3) a relative of a solicitee endorses a surname-related product." The Postal Service contended that the company's solicitations, which advertised books such as The World Book of [surname] and The [surname] Since the Civil War, violated the 1988 consent agreement, because they appeared to be letters from relatives of the addressees urging them to purchase a recently completed book on their family.

- Halbert's was ordered to begin displaying prominently the following disclaimer on any advertising for sumame related publications: "No direct genealogical connection to your family or ancestry is implied or intended."

- Halbert's was ordered to cease and desist from "...representing, directly or indirectly, that advertising has been approved by the United States Postal Service."

The consent agreement entered into by Halbert's in November 1995 contains several other provisions. Halbert's may submit proposed advertising to the USPS General Counsel not more than three times per calendar year to obtain an opinion on whether the advertising violates cease and desist orders. Halbert's must pay $2,000 for each submission to defray investigative, administrative, and legal costs incurred by the Postal Service.

For a period of one year from the date of execution of the consent agreement, Halbert's must, ". . . within ten (10) days after written request therefor, pay full and unconditional double cash refunds, including postage, handling, and deposits, to all consumers who have previously requested in writing to [Halbert's], and not received within thirty (30) days after the receipt of the written request therefor, refunds in connection with any and all surname-related solicitations in use prior to the date of [the consent agreement]." Halbert's must also accept and honor refund requests from the Better Business Bureau, the Postal Inspection Service, the Ohio Attorney General's Office, and any other duly constituted governmental entity which has received complaints from consumers about its promotions.

Under the 1988 cease and desist order, the following conduct by Halbert's is prohibited:

- Representing that a book is principally about a particular family name and

 the history of this family name

- Representing that a book contains information about someone's forebears

 and their emigration from Europe

- Representing that a book contains information about the heraldry and

 family crest of a particular family

- Representing that a book explains how a particular family got its surname

- Representing that a book explains why someone's forebears immigrated to

 the New World (the United States, Canada, and Australia)

- Representing that a book explains why persons with a particular surname

 immigrated to the New World

- Representing that a book is the result of research through numerous

 sources by themselves, or someone acting in their behalf, to compile
 information on persons with the addressee's surname who immigrated to the
 New World

The Postal Service has advised NGS that Halbert's is a member of the Direct Marketing Association and participates in the Mail Preference Service. Anyone who does not wish to receive future mailings from Halbert's can have their name deleted from the company's mailing lists by writing to: Direct Marketing Association, Mail Preference Service, PO. Box 9008, Farmingdale, NY 11735-9008.

The NGS Consumer Protection Committee (formerly the Ethics Committee) is chaired by Helen Hinchliff.

[This article from the March/April 1996 issue of the NGS Newsletter may be reprinted in other publications. This copy was from the NGS' Internet web site.]

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From: Mrj79@msn.com Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 05:30:13 -0500 (EST) To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Joseph & Mary Hastings & Anna Palmer

Hello Jeanne;

Thanks, I'll add them, did you ever have any luck with Witney12.GED?

Keep in touch

Jon Aston

From: Mrj79@msn.com Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 05:32:16 -0500 (EST) To: whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Unsubscribe

Hello All

I'm off on a cruise for a few weeks, please hold mailings to me until I return and sign back on.

Keep in touch

Jon Aston

Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 09:26:35 -0600 To: whitney-L@rootsweb.com From: Tim Doyle <tdoyle@doit.com> Subject: Pierce's The Descendants of John Whitney

For those of you who are wondering what to ask for for Christmas, perhaps you might want to consider your very own copy of F.C. Pierce's The Descendants of John Whitney, 1895, 692pp.

I noticed that it is listed for sale (as a bound photocopy) in the New England Historic Genealogical Society's Fall 1997 Sales Catalog for $107.00 (Item #P3-60000). I have purchased their bound photocopies of other books before and have been very happy with the quality. I'll be calling to place my own order today.

NEHGS can be reached at: 1-888-296-3447 (toll-free) 1-617-624-0341



Tim Doyle tdoyle@doit.com / tdoyle@netcom.com

WWW homepage: http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ ftp directory: doit.com pub/tdoyle

Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:56:37 -0800 From: perrault <perrault@blarg.net> To: whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Fwd: Halbert's alert!]

Hi All, Just received this thrilling announcement from Puget Sound Roots this morning and thought I'd pass it along. These guys never give up, do they? Sue Perrault

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From: Patjorgen@aol.com Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:42:46 -0500 (EST) To: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Halbert's alert!


Halbert’s, the infamous "authentic personalized family histories" place is back in a new reincarnation - "Dozier T. xxxxx" in Bath, Ohio. The letter starts out "Dear xxxxx, I have exciting news for you! Though we are probably not related, I want to tell you about extensive work done relating to the distinguished xxxxx name." The book is now called "A Celebration of American xxxxx’s" (Put any name in the xxxxx space)

The reason I am mentioning this is because some people think these are great gifts for the genealogists in the family, and buy the book as a holiday gifts.The ad mentions it as "an absolute must for you and your family, and makes a most appreciated gift!" (barf) Time to spread the word, before we receive a well-meaning copy under the Christmas tree. My parents have bought a couple of books through the various Halbert "reincarnations" and they definitely are not worth the $35.00 or more plus shipping.

Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 23:51:27 -0600 To: whitney-L@rootsweb.com From: Tim Doyle <tdoyle@doit.com> Subject: WHITNEY listings: Apprentices of CT

I copied the following WHITNEY entries from:

 Kathy A. Ritter, Apprentices of Connecticut 1637-1900 (Salt Lake City;
 Ancestry Publishing, 1986).

p. 62: GRIDLEY, SELOMA, of Farmington, child of Cloe Whitney, bound to Samuel Langdon until age 18, which will be 12 May 1813, to learn the trade of housewifery.

IND. DATE: 22 Jun. 1809 CSL-007 [CSL-007 = Connecticut State Library, Hartford, CT - Archives/History/

Genealogy; RG 62, Farmington; Box 7]

p. 93: MIX, THOMAS, ran away from Asa Whitney of Salisbury. Thomas is age 16. Reward six pence.

NEWSPAPER DATED: 22 Aug. 1785 CTC-001 [CTC-001 = Newspaper, Connecticut Courant, located both at Connecticut

Historical Society and Connecticut State Library]

p. 108: RECO(R), ELZA, inmate of almshouse in Farmington, child of Lucinda Hart dec., bound to Levi Whitney of Canton until age 21, which will be on 21 May 1860, to learn the trade of housewifery.

IND. DATE 20 Sep. 1848 CSL-007 [CSL-007 = Connecticut State Library, Hartford, CT - Archives/History/

Genealogy; RG 62, Farmington; Box 7]



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WWW homepage: http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ ftp directory: doit.com pub/tdoyle

From: ALLAGREEN@aol.com Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 00:55:38 -0500 (EST) To: Whitney-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Samuel and Mary's Children

Dear Jeanne and WRG:

I am a little confused about the Children of Samuel and Mary Whitney Whitney.

The VR's of Worcester, MA, show that they were married June 24, 1778.  There

are, however, in the Worcester Co., births there are five children born to a Samuel and Mary Whitney in 1763, 1764, 1765 (and 1765) and 1769. This is made even more confusing by the birth of two children to couples named Samuel and Mary Whitney in the winter of 1765, one Martha born Nov. 18th and the other Patty born Dec. 29th. This suggests that there were two couples in Worcester named Samuel and Mary Whitney in the years between 1763 and 1769, and that their origin and distribution of the five children above among the two couples is yet to be determined.

I am prepared to accept the probability that the ones born later are children of the above marriage between Samuel-6 Whitney and Mary-6 Whitney, i.e., Bartholomew, b. Apr 18, 1779, and Samuel, b. Jan. 27, 1782.

I would be grateful for any enlightenment on this matter, which came up as I was entering the material that Jeanne posted yesterday and checking it with the VR's that I had on hand.

Allan GENEALOGICAL TRUTH FOR TODAY: It's infinitely easy to get sidetracked doing genealogy.

Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 08:57:19 -0600 To: Whitney Discussion Group <Whitney-L@rootsweb.com> From: Tim Doyle <tdoyle@doit.com> Subject: WHITNEY: Case & Allen genealogy entries

The following WHITNEY entry was copied from:

 Ruth Cost Duncan, John Case and his Descendants (Decorah, Iowa: The
 Anundsen Publishing Co., 1991)

pp. 61 & 62:

128. ASHBEL CASE (Reuben) was born 17 June 1752 in Simsbury(VR), baptized 21 June 1752 in the Wintonbury Church and died in New York. He married AZUBAH FOOTE, daughter of Joseph and Azubah (Griswold) Foote. She was born 13 April 1760 in Simsbury and died in New York.

Children born in Bloomfield and baptized in the Wintonbury Church except last two:

      i. CHLOE b 8 Jan. 1775; bp 17 Sept. 1775; m Mr. ENOS

258. ii. ASHBEL

    iii. TIMOTHY b 21 Jan. 1781; bp 19 Feb. 1781
     iv. LEVI b 17 Aug. 1783; bp 31 Aug. 1783
      v. JAMES b 8 Oct. 1789
     vi. JOSEPH GAYLORD b 24 Oct. 1793; d 21 Feb. 1882 Chicago, Ill.; m
         4 July 1816 N.Y. MARY WHITNEY, dau Joseph F. & Azubah (Griswold)

[When I typed in this data, I first suspected a potential problem with the

two Azubah Griswolds listed. I then realized that at least the first was
associated with Simsbury, CT, a town in which I have quite a few ancestors.
In my work with my Simsbury families, I have time and time again noted
intermarriages between families. Because of this, I no longer have a problem
believing that both names are correctly identified.]


The following WHITNEY entry was copied from:

 Mrs. Frances M. Stoddard, Genealogical History of the Allen Family and some
 of their Connections (Boston: privately printed, 1891) photoduplication by
 the New England Historic Genealogical Society.

p. 115:

Sarah Amelia, eldest daughter of George and Sarah (Burch) Allen, was born in East St. Louis, Ill., February 27, 1838. She was educated at Jacksonville Academy, Illinois. She was married at Annapolis, Md., April 23, 1864, by the Rev. C.H. Henries, Chaplain in the United States Navy, to Eben Whitney, son of Bennett and Susan (Curtis) Whitney, who were natives of Suffield, Conn. Eben Whitney was born October 22, 1837, in Bridgeport, Conn. He was Captain in the 30th S.C.T., from February, 1864, to December, 1865. He is at present a postal clerk in the railway service, from New York to Philadelphia, on the Pennsylvania Railroad. They have only one child, Bessie Winifred, who was born at Astoria, Long Island, N.Y., January 1, 1875.


Tim Doyle tdoyle@doit.com / tdoyle@netcom.com

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From: ALLAGREEN@aol.com Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 16:48:24 -0500 (EST) To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: WHITNEY listings: Apprentices of CT

In a message dated 97-10-31 11:39:30 EST, you write:

>p. 108: >RECO(R), ELZA, inmate of almshouse in Farmington, child of Lucinda Hart >dec., bound to Levi Whitney of Canton until age 21, which will be on 21 >May 1860, to learn the trade of housewifery.

I wonder if this includes all of the obligations of "houswifery" - if so, Levi was a dirty old man!!

Allan



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