Mailing List:2003-06-18 01, Re: WRG 2004 Data Gathering - QuickBase Invitation, by Timothy F. Whitney
Mailing List Archives > 2003-06-18 01, Re: WRG 2004 Data Gathering - QuickBase Invitation, by Timothy F. Whitney
From: "Timothy F. Whitney" <tfwhitney.data-brain -at- erols.com> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] WRG 2004 Data Gathering - QuickBase Invitation Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:41:50 -0400 References: <[email protected]> Tim, Thanks for the un-official input on Quickbase - should help clarify any questions/concerns. The current stats from Quickbase on the 2004 WRG Reunion with 21 Respondents are as follows : Attendees: Season: Location: Hotel Rooms: Transportation: 38 Adults 9 Early Summer 14 DC 18 Booked by WRG 12 Auto 5 Children 7 Late Spring 4 VA 2 Own Reservations 8 Air 4 Early Spring 3 MD 1 Not Needed 1 Train 1 Late Fall Totals: 43 21 21 21 21 Not sure how many folks have not provided input. Per my earlier email...I am planning to keep it open until July 12 (30 days) unless folks tell me they need it open longer. After I close it, I will generate an Excel worksheet and email same to WRG so everyone can have the completed tally. Best Regards, Tim Whitney Tim Doyle wrote: >QuickBase, along with all other Intuit websites, provides a full online >disclosure of its privacy policies. For the QuickBase website, you can >find that information by going to <a href="http://www.quickbase.com">http://www.quickbase.com</a> and selecting >the Privacy Statement link at the bottom. Being that I work for Intuit, I >use QuickBase every day. I have never had any popups or spam whatsoever, >nor have I heard of anything like this whatsoever. Being that Intuit deals >with financial and tax-related information, it is very careful about how >it deals with information such as this so as not to affect the confidence >of its customers. Note that I am speaking on my own behalf, and not as a >representative of Intuit here. I hope this helps. > >Tim Doyle > > >On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Timothy F. Whitney wrote: > > > >>Hi, >> >>I am the manager/owner/administrator of the database I created on >>Quickbase and I also generated the invitation. >> >>1st, I pay out of my own pocket for this service as I also use it for my >>Class Reunion databases. I don't believe $15/month or $180/year is a >>giveaway or subsidized price. I don't get popup banners and I have not >>seen any SPAM associated with my use of Quickbase. >> >>2nd, I have used this Intuit service for over 2 years and have not heard >>of anyone having the type of problems/issues you mentioned. The only >>concern I have currently with the new database I created is that I had >>to open it to the Public - as I do not have specific email addresses for >>individual invitations. >> >>3rd, I have not intentions of selling this data or keeping it after it >>has been collected and provided to the three volunteers trying to plan >>the 2004 Reunion. >> >>4th, I believe two invitations were sent, one more general or automated >> by the Quickbase site and the other with more specific text that I >>added. Yes, Quickbase does invite folks to create a Username. However >>I have not seen any other "selling" tactic used by them. >> >>Last, I have no idea how large the WRG is and only wanted to help get >>the 2004 Reunion in the DC area going as I was not able to attend last >>year's Reunion. >> >>Anything one does on the WWW is subject to the issues you raised - >>including simple email. If you believe Quickbase is guilty of any of >>the issues you mentioned - please perform some research and provide me >>with facts and I will get them addressed by Intuit - ASAP. >> >>In closing, I am not nor do I ever intend to be a "commercial >>interloper" attempting to facilitate communications between WRG >>members. I am simply using a tool to help WRG members voice their >>preferences in a way that will help us all have a wonderful Reunion in >>2004. In advance, if my attempt to help get the 2004 Reunion off the >>ground has offended you - I apologize - as this was certainly not my >>intention. >> >>Regards, >> >>Tim Whitney >>540-349-1027 >> >> >> >>White Dove wrote: >> >> >> >>>Personally, I would not go anywhere near that 'database', and least of >>>all visit the website hosting it. I have been involved with computers for >>>over 20 years and know that a website does not have to overtly ask >>>for information from an internet visitor in order to collect information >>>that >>>can be of great value to telemarketers. >>> >>>Seeing as we are all genealogists here, and ply our avocation with the use >>>of computers; it is reasonable to suppose that we keep data valuable to >>>genealogy publishing houses on our machines as well. No security program >>>that I know of will prevent all prying by websites that we visit; rather >>>they >>>are more concerned with unsolicited digital material. If we go anywhere, >>>we are asking for not only whatever that site can give to us, but also for >>>whatever that site can take away; with windows the playing field is not >>>level, and we have neither the skill nor the means to prevent it. >>> >>>A database site is in the business of collecting data. They sell this data. >>>If >>>one gives a 'free' or 'very cheap' service that is obviousely below cost, >>>then >>>someone somewhere is paying. There is no free lunch, and data mined by >>>an XML program or 'Flash 6' or HTML or a '.cgi' routine could be resold to >>>anywhere with no guarantees. We will not have our personal web address >>>book, personal checking or credit accounts and numbers and PIN numbers >>>as well as our GEDcom files and '.FTW' files mined out serrepititiousely by >>>such a site. We have personally seen some of our data wind up on commercial >>>copyrighted CD's from 'for profit' companies that we had not given them. >>>They literally stole our data from third parties and then copyrighted our >>>own families! >>> >>>We are not such a large group that we would need commercial interlopers to >>>facilitate talking to each other. The first reunion had no need of such. >>>The only >>>reason that one would even want such a 'service' in the first place would >>>logically be if there were an extremely small group of organizers, maybe >>>only >>>one person. This reunion has to be about more than one. >>> >>>Notice the letter is also a solicitation for business for this company and >>>was >>>generated by the company. For that reason we are not signing this letter, >>>and 'white dove' is in the public domain. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>################################################################# >>################################################################# >>################################################################# >>##### >>##### >>##### >>################################################################# >>################################################################# >>################################################################# >> >> >> > > > >
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