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From: Stu Whitney &lt;{{emailaddress|shaw.ca|stuwhitney}}&gt;
Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Whitney DNA Study - Overview, Status, Analysis,and Next Steps
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 23:13:22 -0700
References: &lt;000801c6d853$fc7bba10$5900a8c0@outburst.com&gt;

Hello Tim:
Here is my lineage: Henry  (1), John (2), Nathaniel (3), Eliakim (4), John 
(5), Peter (6), John (7), George (8), Stuart (9) I was also given the name 
Harvey, but I hardly ever use it.

I am aware of Bill Whitney in Ontario Canada as being another Henry, and 
that he and I branched off in (4) he with Eliasaph (4) and me with Eliakim 
(4). Who is the third Henry?

I think there is another Henry here in the area where I live. I have not met 
him yet but it looks like he is (12) and branched off from me with Eliakim 
(6). If I can contact him I may try to persuade him to join the DNA Project. 
However, I must say that I have a bit of difficulty with the notion of 
meeting a total stranger and then suggesting to him that he might like to 
spend a couple of hundred dollars for this project.

I know we cannot expect to have the DNA testing free but I rather suspect 
that there would be a whole lot more people being tested if it was more 
affordable. In this connection has any thought been given to asking people 
to contribute money to a fund to be used for specific tests that the project 
would really benefit from. I see that you have made an overture in this 
direction but I am thinking or a more direct  appeal telling why the fund is 
needed and suggesting contributions in the order of $25.00 or so. We have a 
large number of people in our group , many of whom are interested in the DNA 
Project. If even a small proportion of them donated a small amount we would 
have a sizable pool of money.

I would never have had my DNA tested without some financial help from 
Whitney Keen, and much as I would like to see it upgraded and expanded I 
cannot afford to have that done. I could afford up to $50.00 canadian.  So I 
feel strongly that we should appeal to the whole Whitney 'Family' for 
financial help for this project.

Best wishes with the analyses

H.S. (Stu) Whitney,
Sooke, BC, Canada
<i></i>----- Original Message ----- 
From: &quot;Tim Doyle&quot; &lt;{{emailaddress|greenscourt.com|tim}}&gt;
To: &lt;{{emailaddress|rootsweb.com|WHITNEY-L}}&gt;
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 4:17 PM
Subject: [WHITNEY] Whitney DNA Study - Overview, Status, Analysis,and Next 
Steps

&gt; Whitney DNA Study Overview:
&gt; --------------------------
&gt;
&gt; * The Whitney DNA Study is designed to allow us to use science to do
&gt;  the following:
&gt;  - Determine if the immigrants John, Henry, and Samuel Whitney were
&gt;    related.
&gt;  - Assist those who haven't been able to connect to determine which
&gt;    immigrant they likely descend from.
&gt;  - Perhaps allow us to capture differences within branches of John
&gt;    Whitney's descendants allowing those who haven't been able to
&gt;    connect to determine which branch they likely descend from.
&gt;  - Perhaps allow us to determine which Whitney families in England
&gt;    the immigrants are related to.
&gt;  - Allow study participants to somewhat validate their lineage.
&gt;
&gt; * DNA is collected with a cheek swab - no blood is taken (in case you
&gt;  fear needles like I do).
&gt;
&gt; * The study examines information on the Y Chromosome, so the person
&gt;  being tested must be male, and must be a direct male descendant of
&gt;  a Whitney.
&gt;
&gt; * The study does NOT capture all of your DNA. Only specific areas are
&gt;  examined.
&gt;  - The test basically looks at &quot;junk DNA&quot; areas that researchers have
&gt;    noticed tend to repeat a sequence over and over. The number of
&gt;    repeats can sometimes change, so one person might have 17 repeats
&gt;    at a given site while other people have 16 or 18 repeats. These
&gt;    are the numbers you see in your test results.
&gt;
&gt; * The Whitney DNA Study is being led by Whitney Keen, who is doing an
&gt;  excellent job!  Thank you Whitney!!
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Status:
&gt; ------
&gt;
&gt; * About 35 individuals have taken the DNA test and are participating
&gt;  in the Whitney DNA Study.
&gt;  - Twenty-six descendants of immigrant John Whitney
&gt;  - Three descendants of immigrant Henry Whitney
&gt;  - One descendant of immigrant Samuel Whitney
&gt;  - and five others
&gt;
&gt; * We have identified standard marker sequences for John Whitney, Henry
&gt;  Whitney, and Samuel Whitney.
&gt;  - Having these standard values allows us to determine which line
&gt;    people most likely descend from. If you haven't connected to an
&gt;    immigrant yet, taking the test will allow us to tell you which
&gt;    one you most likely descend from.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Analysis:
&gt; --------
&gt;
&gt; Here's what we've learned so far.....
&gt;
&gt; * John Whitney and Henry Whitney were not related.
&gt;
&gt; * John Whitney and Samuel Whitney were not related.
&gt;
&gt; * Henry Whitney and Samuel Whitney were possibly related. We need
&gt;  Samuel Whitney's descendant to expand their search results to
&gt;  make a more definitive conclusion.
&gt;
&gt; * John, Henry, and Samuel Whitney were all descended from the &quot;R1b
&gt;  Haplogroup&quot;
&gt;  - The R1B Haplogroup is believed to have been widespread in Europe
&gt;    before the last Ice Age, and associated with the Aurignacian
&gt;    culture of the Cro-Magnon people, the first modern humans to enter
&gt;    Europe. As the ice age intensified and the European continent
&gt;    became less inhabitable, this group is believed to have taken
&gt;    refuge in present day southern France and northern Spain. As the
&gt;    ice age receeded about 12,000 years ago, this group migrated north
&gt;    and recolonized Western Europe.
&gt;
&gt; * Several WRG members who have not yet linked themselves back to an
&gt;  immigrant ancestor can be shown to be almost certainly descended
&gt;  from John Whitney.
&gt;
&gt; * One person who descends from a recent English line has results
&gt;  intriguingly similar to John Whitney's line - is this person
&gt;  descended from one of John's brothers, uncles, or cousins?
&gt;
&gt; * Four people in the study appear not to be descended from John,
&gt;  Henry, or Samuel Whitney. This could be the result of descent
&gt;  from a new and less well-known Whitney branch, an unrecorded
&gt;  adoption event in the past, or (how can I be politically correct
&gt;  here...) a less than faithful wife somewhere along the lineage.
&gt;
&gt; * One person in the study appears not to be descended from John
&gt;  or Samuel, but possibly descended from Henry Whitney.
&gt;
&gt; * It appears that Leonard Albert Whitney and Gerald Earl Whitney are
&gt;  closely related. Since Gerald has apparently not traced his line
&gt;  back to John Whitney yet, he could benefit from reviewing Leonard's
&gt;  ancestry.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Next Steps:
&gt; ----------
&gt;
&gt;  * We need more descendants of Henry Whitney to join the study.
&gt;
&gt;  * We need more descendants of Samuel Whitney to join the study.
&gt;
&gt;  * We need the participant who descends from Samuel Whitney to
&gt;    expand his test from 12 markers to as many as possible (37
&gt;    or 67). See below for prices.
&gt;
&gt;  * We need all current participants to consider expanding their test
&gt;    results. See below for prices.
&gt;
&gt;  * We need all current participants to email me your lineage as far
&gt;    back as you have it. This will allow us to expand our data
&gt;    analysis and be better prepared to assist others.
&gt;
&gt;  * We need more people who are from England or whose Whitney ancestors
&gt;    came from England more recently than the 3 big immigrants.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; How to Participate:
&gt; ------------------
&gt;
&gt;  * If you are male and are descended from a Whitney all the way back
&gt;    through the male line, please consider joining the project.
&gt;
&gt;  * If you are female, or if you descend from a daughter of a Whitney,
&gt;    look through your tree to find a male Whitney descendant who can be
&gt;    tested instead.
&gt;
&gt;  * If you would like to help financially, we have a number of tests
&gt;    that we have determined to be high priority for our combined
&gt;    understanding of our Whitney lines. Many people cannot afford to do
&gt;    these tests, so if you can, please consider helping financially.
&gt;    Contact me if you are interested.
&gt;
&gt;  * How much does it cost?
&gt;    - 12 Marker test (bare minimum): $149
&gt;    - 37 Marker test (better): $259
&gt;    - 67 Marker test (best): $349
&gt;    - 12 Marker to 37 Marker upgrade: $109
&gt;    - 12 Marker to 67 Marker upgrade: $199
&gt;    - 37 Marker to 67 Marker upgrade: $109
&gt;
&gt; Please feel free to send any questions or comments to me. If you have
&gt; participated in the study, please send me your name (and the name of the
&gt; person who you had tested, if not you) and send me your lineage as far 
&gt; back
&gt; as you know it, and I will send you a personal description of your results
&gt; and what they mean.
&gt;
&gt; Thank you!
&gt;
&gt; Tim Doyle
&gt; Whitney Research Group Website Co-Host
&gt; <a href="http://wiki.whitneygen.org">http://wiki.whitneygen.org</a>
&gt;
&gt;
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