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Old Messages through 30 Sep 2011

Re: Another Path

Thanks for the additional info Robert. I'm lazy and just saved it as a Favorite.

What do we do with the Unknowns when we've completed a year? I suspect many are children without pages and some are immigrants. I've noticed a number of family pages are flagged for sons that need their own family page. Do we create family pages for them and then start searching the immigration records?

Brad - my talk

Whitney Cemetery

I learned of this cemetery last fall when I found this article online while researching Clark Whitney. The cemetery is located in Watertown, Jefferson Co., WI. Clark's first wife is possibly buried there as well as an aunt and possibly a newphew (non Whitney's). I plan to visit the site this June to do a thorough search. Do we want to list this anywhere in the mean time?

Brad - my talk

Potential Heads of Households - 1820

Robert,

I have completed my review of the remaining unidentified census entries and idenified additional possible family links. When you have time, would you please review those possibilites I noted and indicate if you Agree or Disagree by adding these words after my note? I will then take the appropriate action of linking the census record or creating a family page. A 3rd option would be Save; in which case we'll leave my note for future reference.

In reviewing the 1820 unidentified individuals, I made some off line notes to myself about potential links to a number of 1810 unidentified census entries. When we complete 1830, I'll develop a spreadsheet to see if I can't further develop ties between the unidentified individuals 1790-1830. I'm also going to review the 1810 unidentifed census entries. Perhaps a fresh set of eyes might find some potential matches.

Also, my e-mail had an error. We had reduced the number of unidentified from 174 to 159, not 169. I found a census record last night in the census extract that only had a 1 way link to a family page and corrected it. We now stand at 158 unidentifed individuals.

As you've noted before, a lot of work remains. The way to eat an elephant is one bite at a time.

Brad - my talk

Joseph Whitney of Belchertown, MA

Hi Robert, You present a very convincing hypothesis that Joseph is the one in Otsego Co., NY. If his birthdate is Jan 10, 1795, then his Probate Record in Norwich, VT for assigning a guardian (Jan 9, 1813) was executed the day before he turned 18 (is 18 the age of maturity at that time?). Plus he joined the military late Dec, 1812 when he was only 17. I would assume the court papers for guardianship would have been filed prior to his joining the military. Perhaps he needed that to help with his enlistment as a minor?? Hopefully some day soon I can review the actual probate packet in Windsor county to see if there are additional letters or documents concerning his case. I'll dig back through my records for the Whitneys near Sharon - there were several. Also I will see if I have any land records regarding Joseph in Windsor county, VT. I'm not sure if I brought all of those with us to Naples, FL - this sure beats the weather back in Michigan! :) Thanks, Doug Wood

Joshua and Joseph

Robert, I think you are correct on the connections you have made so far - quite intriguing. I compared the 1800 Norwich, VT census records with the 1810 records for William Wade (guardian for Joseph) and his household picked up 3 males beteen 10 and 44 years old in 1810. I think two of them are Joshua (~ 21) and Joseph (~14). Not sure who the third male is. Since Joshua doesnt show up in NY until about 1813 - 1814 , its possible that Joshua was in Norwich with Joseph for a period of time. Is there a record of Joshua enlisting in the 1812 War? Thanks, Doug

Re: Question on Deletion

In the census extract, that individual is linked to Joseph Whitney. Did I make an error?

Brad - my talk

Potential Heads of Households - 1800

Robert,

I've completed my review of the remaining unidentified individuals from 1800. I think we have a few matches if you could review when you have time.

Thank you!

Brad - my talk

Photo

Thanks. Apparently, the photo was saved in the photo archive as #177, yet it still did not appear on the list. Therefore, I attempted to add it by using an available number, #180, uploaded accoring to directions, and it did not instantly appear. Hoping it will be uploaded and appear soon.

Ldiazstudio

New Cemetery Records

Robert,

When you have a chance, would you please add cemetery record pages for the following cemeteries in Herkimer Co., NY or explain the process for adding?

• Salisbury
• Fairfield
• Middleville

Thank you!

Brad - my talk

Potential Heads of Households - 1850

Robert,

You asked a while back if I thought we should expand the list of unknowns to individual younger than 50. Having now worked with the 1840 data a bit, I think we should lower the age to 40 given the following break down of unidentified individuals by year born for 1840:

• 1770 & before - 4%
• 1770-1780 - 3%
• 1780-1790 - 9%
• 1790-1800 - 23%
• 1800-1810 - 37%
• 1810-1820 - 24%

I think we are excluding a large population of individuals that need to be reviewed in my spreadsheet mapping exercise.

There is still much work to be done on the 1840 data so there is no rush to expand.

Your thoughts?

Brad - my talk

Whitney's In Pueblo, CO

Robert,

I've been researching the Whitney's buried in Pueblo and I'm in the process of added cemetery records. I'll also be updating/creating family pages based upon my research.

Brad - my talk

Re: Continuing the 1840's

Robert,

I will go through and scrub the remaining 420 unknowns as I have in the past with the earlier lists. Prior to starting that, I have some family pages to update when I return Tuesday from vacation based upon research I have done on some of the individuals buried in Pueblo.

Thank you for reviewing N-Z, 1840 was a long list.

You're very welcome, I enjoy helping.

Brad - my talk

Arthur C. Whitney 1854-1951

Hi Robert, I found this Whitney in Munroe Cemetery in Lexington, MA. His marriage record shows that his parents were John S. Whitney and Lydia [Hoar] Whitney. Her name is very hard to read though. Arthur was born in Boxborough, MA. I can't find Arthur in "Whitneys by given name" so I want to add him to the correct family page, but I can't find John either. Can you help?

Thanks, Crystal

Arthur Whitney

Wow! No wonder I had trouble finding him, thanks! I am going to add this information to my Find A Grave memorial, crediting the source of course :)

1810 NY Census Index

Robert,

In the 1810 census index for New York, there is a Josh Whitney listed for Franklin Co., but no link or extract. Do you know what that is about? I haven't found an 1810 census record for the Joshua Whitney family that I am currently developing.

Brad - my talk

Re: 1810 Census Index, II

Robert,

Thank you for checking into those records. It is very probable that this is the Joshua that I am developing the family page for. The family profile is a very close match to what I had with the exception of a 10-15 female who may have been married and moved out by the 1820 census. It also confirms the unknown son I have listed. The youngest son William was born in Jan 1810 and consistently listed NY as his birth state. I had reviewed all of the other Joshua's in NY state in 1810 and they all have credible links to known families.

Thanks again and thank you for adding the requested cemeteries.

Brad - my talk

New User! New Family!

Well Hello Mr. Robert Ward!

I was quite excited to find your Group and to find it being thoroughly thoughtout and communitively interactive!

I was also thrilled to get such a speedy reply and to find (after peeping your page)that we are in the same line, therefore, family!

Wonderful to "meet" you, virtually!

I have taken your advice and deleted the personal info to "livings". And Thank You so much for adding the links to our Ancestors, directly. <3

I would like to upload some photos of my Father (as he was a Bronze Medallion Winner of the Olympic Games 1974 in Munich, Germany. Discipline- "Running Boar"- International Rifle Team. As well as one of the "President´s 100").

As well as, that my line is related to Presidents- John Adams and John Quincy Adams And of course, John Adams Cousin Samuel Adams, Jr.. And I´ve downloaded a bit to that line, as well... for any who might be interested in the line being added within their own trees... even if it should not happen to be IN their direct branch.

And lastly, does my "default user page" become a "user page" eventually?

Thanking you for your effort, dedication and drive!

Highest regards, Another driven family member

Is this Your WIKI Page on Thomas Whitney and Mary Bray?

Just wondering, what you know... about what is listed here and if it coincides with "factual" events.

http://www.washburngenealogy.org/index.php?title=Family:Whitney,_Thomas_(1560-1637)

Thank You!

Theresa Renée Eléna Tossas

Awesome!

Thank You, Robert!

I did see the credit to your page, just making sure, that you had seen that page, as well. And making sure the info´s are propoer, before hacking them into my own GEDCOM Tree.

Thank You again, soooooo much!!!! YOU (and all that make this site what it is!) TOTALLY ROCK!!!!

xoxoxo Theresa Renée

Is this connected to our line? I´m a bit confused. lol!

http://thepeerage.com/p33410.htm#i334091

And are these connected to them and to us, as well?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_family_tree

and these?

1984. John Whitney II, born September 14, 1621 in Islesworth, Middlesex, England; died October 12, 1692. He was the son of 3968. John Whitney and 3969. Elinor Bray. He married 1985. Ruth Reynolds 1641 in Watertown, MA. 

     1985. Ruth Reynolds, born 1622 in Aylesford, Kent, England; died Unknown. She was the daughter of 3970. Robert Reynolds and 3971. Mary Pulleyne. 
     

Children of John Whitney and Ruth Reynolds are:

  i.   Ruth Whitney, born April 15, 1645 in Watertown, MA; died Unknown in Groton, MA; married (1) John Shattuck; born February 11, 1646/47 in Watertown, MA; died September 14, 1675 in Charlestown Ferry, MA (Drowned); married (2) Enoch Lawrence March 06, 1675/76; born May 01, 1648 in Watertown, MA; died September 28, 1744 in Groton, MA. 
  ii.   Nathaniel Whitney, born February 01, 1645/46 in Watertown, MA; died January 07, 1729/30 in Weston, MA; married Sarah Hagar; born September 03, 1651 in Watertown, MA; died Unknown. 
 992 iii.   Benjamin Whitney, born June 06, 1643 in Watertown, MA; died March 26, 1723 in Sherbourne, MA; married (1) Susan Wells 1667; married (2) Jane Poor 1668 in York, ME; married (3) Mary Poore April 11, 1695 in Marlborough, MA. 

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/o/l/​Peter-S-Bolster/​GENE6-0022.html

List Benjamin as the son of John Whitney II who married Ruth Reynolds and lists Ruth as his mother and not Elinore UKNOWN

And these are ours > http://wiki.whitneygen.org/wrg/index.php/Family:Whitney,_John_(c1678-a1739)

so who is related to who... and how? Thank you for your time and efforts, Theresa Renée

email contact. I believe, Grosvenor Family is possibly, intertwined

Hello again! I´ve been analysing the names in my Grosvenor line from Elizabeth Ann Whitney Grosvenor m. William Harrison Cromer.

It would seem these families were often somewhere a part of the LDS movement and also, intertwined spread out over seemingly, hundreds of years.

They also, seemed to migrate, to some areas together... From say, Boston, Vermont, Connecticut, New York, Maine towards Ohio, Ill., Michigan and farther out west...many to Utah, some farther. Some stayed put, some were in then, to be found migrated to Canada.

There are in this line of Grosvenor, the surnames as in the Whitney lines, here... Adams, Dutton, Boylston, Clarke/Clark, Davies, Baskerville, Waldo, Weld

and

first names as, Ebenezer, Lettice,Rebecca, Esther, William, Joseph, Robert, John, Thomas, Ira, Elijah, Nathaniel, Mary, Margaret, Susanna, Lucy, Elizabeth, Ann, Hiram ect.

If I could get a GEDCOM to you, I believe, it might possibly, assist in making some, yet unrealized, connections.

They also, BOTH have ties to earlier England and the "claims" to be descendants, from Normandy migrated to England sometime between- 1100 and 1200, with William "the Conqueror" also, known as William "the Great", registered in England and at the Hall of Arms, in London. Their descendant claim was to John the Hunter - Gros Venir Gros Venor ect.. see Scrope vs. Grosvenor case.

You have my email, with my registration. I hereby, give you my personal and explicit permission to contact me at this address, so I may provide you with a download of this GEDCOM.

Best regards, Theresa Renée