User talk:Theresareneetossas
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Contents
- 1 "Need their own pages"
- 2 Default User Page
- 3 Thomas Whitney Wiki Page
- 4 Other Web Sites
- 5 Grosvenor
- 6 Ford
- 7 Another Grosvenor/Whitney Marriage. And Baldwin is also mentioned... these families are long related... and intertwined.
- 8 Ford/Ayer/Whitney connection
- 9 All US Presidents are related- here´s the proof! If I am related to John Adams and George H. W. Bush THEN,
"Need their own pages"
Theresa,
Thanks for registering and joining the Whitney Research Group (WRG). Thanks also for posting your lineage. I have taken the liberty of adding further generations and supplying links from the lineage page to family group pages, where they have been created, for your Whitney ancestors.
As to why the note about the sons who need their own pages, it is a note to us who maintain the website that we have enough information about these men to make pages for which they are the heads of households. On those pages we will put that further data, including lists of their children, references to them in census records, references, and so on. There will be links from Francis Tufts Whitney's page to each of their own pages, and vice versa.
The rest of the information you have put on the Family_Talk: page, I have moved to your User: page. I suggest you delete detailed information about living people, for reasons of privacy and identity theft prevention.
If there is anything I can do to help further, please feel free to contact me.
- Robert Ward - Talk to me 17:35, 18 June 2012 (CDT)
Default User Page
Theresa,
Your default user page always was a user page. When you registered and it was created, certain information was put on it in order to provide instructions on how to customize it with your own information. That is the "default" part. Now your information is there, which I moved from Francis Tufts Whitney's Family_Talk page, and that replaces those instructions.
- Robert Ward - Talk to me 05:23, 19 June 2012 (CDT)
Thomas Whitney Wiki Page
Theresa,
If you look at the bottom of that page, you'll see that what is there was taken from our Whitney Research Group page for Thomas Whitney three years ago. (At least they gave us credit, instead of just stealing it!) Instead of using that, use our page at Family:Whitney, Thomas (s1550-1637). That is the current, approved, and authoritative version.
- Robert Ward - Talk to me 05:26, 19 June 2012 (CDT)
Other Web Sites
Theresa,
You asked about
http://thepeerage.com/p33410.htm#i334091
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_family_tree
I can't see any connection between this Ford family and our Whitney family. Letty Ford who married John3 Whitney is not known to be related. Henry Ford's family came from England in the 1800's, but Letty's family were in Maine by the 1600's.
John2 Whitney did marry Ruth Reynolds. It was his father John1 Whitney who married Elinor -----. Benjamin2 Whitney was son of the latter couple, not the former. See their pages for details.
There is a lot of false information on-line. Please be careful. Use information which is sourced, and which uses reliable sources. If there is no source information, treat it as clue material only (at best). For Whitney families, we believe that the Whitney Research Group site is authoritative, and anything which contradicts it should be questioned, if not dismissed.
- Robert Ward - Talk to me 03:41, 20 June 2012 (CDT)
Grosvenor
Theresa,
Sorry, but I'm too busy with other projects to spend any time on your Grosvenor information. The names you cite are rather common, both given names and surnames, so it is not surprising to find them in any two families.
- Robert Ward - Talk to me 03:43, 20 June 2012 (CDT)
Ford
Theresa,
Gerald Rudolph Ford, Sr., was son of George Rufus Ford and his wife Zana Frances Pixley, grandson of Henry Thomas Ford and his wife Margaret Ann Stewart, and great-grandson of William Ford and his wife Harriet. William Ford was born 1801 in England and died 1854 in Ohio. If there are connections between these Ford families, they must be in England, and not recent.
This is another side issue to which I cannot afford to devote attention at this time. Ask me a Whitney question, and I would be more willing to look into that.
- Robert Ward - Talk to me 12:32, 20 June 2012 (CDT)
A Note for Future Reference-
A Bookmark of sorts, from this WRG site, for my own memory and anyone elses.
http://wiki.whitneygen.org/wrg/index.php/Family:Whitney,_Andrew_(1754-1818)
18.^ "Sally [Whitney], d, Andrew and Lucy, [born] June 4, 1803," according to Princeton Vital Records.
19.^ "Sally [Whitney] of Worcester, and Rev. David A. Grovesnor, int. Apr. 5, 1835," according to Thomas W. Baldwin, ed., Vital Records of Uxbridge, Massachusetts, to the Year 1850 (Boston, MA: 1916).
20.^ "Sally [Whitney], and Rev. David-A. Grosvenor of Uxbridge, [married] May 5, 1835," according to Franklin P. Rice, ed., Worcester Births, Marriages and Deaths. (Births 1714-1848; Marriages 1747-1848; Deaths, 1826-1848), Collections of the Worcester Society of Antiquity, vol. 12 (1894).
Ford/Ayer/Whitney connection
here for my own future reference >
http://wiki.whitneygen.org/wrg/index.php/Family:Whitney,_Joseph_(1770-1858) married 2nd- Sarah Ayer.
Also, Families Davis, Whitney, John II, Poore, Andrews ect.
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/o/l/Peter-S-Bolster/GENE6-0022.html
well, THEN... we are related to ALL of the Presidents in some manner AND to the Monarchs of England and France.
I am so gut feeling certain, that here in their ancestry, is where we will find our Thomas Whitney´s parentage.
As continually noted, these families are intertwined, from England to the Americas and beyond... for hundreds of years... and on more than one occasion, multiple Whitney´s married into multiple Adams, Ford, Kennedy, Waldo, Smith, Grosvenor families... as well as, the other way around... reoccuring... over hundreds of years through and with diverse branches. Somewhere, there is a sister of Thomas or a cousin of Thomas in here, with a connection we can make... to clear our Thomas Whitney´s parentage and more...
Here´s some information, that EVEN the MOST PROFESSIONAL GENEALOGISTS have "overlooked" in previous years... it took a 12 year old GIRL, named BridgeAnne d´Avingnion...from California, to figure it out. lol!
We (I and my Whitney/Grosvenor line) are descendants of Henry Adams- Great Uncle of John Adams, Samuel Adams Jr. and John Quincy Adams. Through the marriage of Rebecca Waldo (dau. of Susanna Adams and Daniel Waldo) and Capt. Leicester Grosvenor Sr.. As well as through the Whitney Family and Adams marriages. So, on BOTH sides.
John Quincy Adams (descendant of Edward III of England)[citation needed] (Chart 2 alongside) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_III_of_England
And therefore, I believe, I´ve got it!
Here one can follow our line, though the Presidents of the United States.
There is also, George H. W. Bush & James Garfield, through our "Whitney" line.
And as mentioned in my comments ABOVE this entry... FORD, is in question as well as Kennedy and Roosevelt.
Seeing as all of these Presidents are descendants of King John "Lackland" Plantagenet (a really, not very nice guy...), who is the Ancestor of Kind Henry III as well as Edward the I, II and III and therefore, RELATED...
And The Bush Family is also related to all of the British Monarchs as well as 20 of it´s Dukes.
"Bush is closely related to the king of Albania and has kinship with every member of the British royal family and the House of Windsor. He is related to 20 British Dukes, the 13th cousin of Britain’s Queen Mother, and of her daughter Queen Elizabeth. He is 13th cousin once removed from Prince Charles and has direct descent from King Henry III, Charles II, and Edward I of England. Through the House of Windsor and King Henry III, the Bush’s and Bill Clinton are genetically related as well."
That should pretty much, clear up and solidify... any questions to our relation to his Highness the 6th Duke of Westminster.(Grosvenor)
(our Whitneys most likely migrated from Whitney to Westminster, as well.)
p.s. it is now, also known, that ALL of the Presidents of the United States of America, are related to one another, as well as to the House of England.
Just my thoughts... for me, myself and I and anyone else, who may be interested.
Here is a GRAND LINK!!! With ALL of the Family Trees of the US Presidents, under their individual names. Total overview! All connected. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nplunkett/pres.html
