Mailing List Discussions, February 1999
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 01:01:16 -0600 From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Transcribing Pierce To: [email protected]
Less than one week ago, Shawn Whitney suggested that we undertake the project of converting the Pierce book to digital format. Since that time, I have broken up the book into 5-page sets and have tried to organize volunteers. Out of the 134 sets available, 5 have now been completed, 21 more have been adopted and are under way, and 1 has been scanned and is ready to be adopted. This means that we are now 3.7% complete and 20% adopted/complete. I think that this is fantastic progress in one week! We're still working out some standards by which we can all follow so we'll end up with something that looks fairly uniform, but we have a small list compiled now so if you've been waiting to volunteer, just let me know.
You are free to pick which 5 pages you'd like to transcribe. Want to do your great-grandfather's family? Just let me know and I'll look up the set he falls in. Are 5 pages too much for you? Just let me know and I'll break up some of the sets into smaller chunks.
I'd like to thank everyone who has volunteered so far and encourage others to pitch in too. Imagine having all 664 pages of Pierce's book available online! This will make it possible to search the entire text for any word or name that you'd like to find. If you'd like to see what we have so far, take a look at http://outburst.com/whitney/pierce/home.html
Thanks everyone!
Tim Doyle http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ [email protected] ftp://ftp.doit.com/pub/tdoyle/
From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 03:45:18 EST Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Pierce and More.. To: [email protected]
I just spent a few pleasant hours transcribing Pierce and highly recommend it to anyone who wants to truly appreciate the magnitude and value of his accomplishment. Having a digital version will be very useful as a step to what this group seems to be heading toward, a 20th century Whitney Book, just in time for the 21st! On another note, after Robert Ward posted the 1850 Michigan Census of Whitneys, I realized that from my research in Michigan and New York libraries, I could identify about a third of them. A while ago I started making notes, from Pierce, Phoenix, and Michigan and county histories and census records on each one listed. As soon as I figure out the proper look and format, I will post what I have on the web, with sources, and solicit additional contributions. This might be useful to researchers, also. A. Whitney Brown
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:34:08 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Whitney <[email protected]>
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Subject: [WHITNEY-L] The Dash To: [email protected]
Maybe you as a genealogist will find this meaningful.....
Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:01:29 -0500 From: [email protected] ...
THE DASH
I read of a man who stood to speak at the funeral of his friend. He referred to the dates on her tombstone from the beginning...to the end. He noted that first came the date of her birth and spoke of the second with tears, but he said that what mattered most of all was the dash between those years. For that dash represents all the time that she spent alive on earth, and now only those who loved her know what that little line is worth.
For it matters not, how much we own: the cars, the house, the cash. What matters is how we live and love and how we spend our dash. So think about this long and hard, "Are there things you'd like to change?" For you never know how much time is left. (You could be at "dash mid-range.") If we could slow down enough to consider what's true and what is real, and always try to understand the way other people feel.
And...be less quick to anger, and show appreciation more, and love the people in our lives like we've never loved before.
If we treat each other with respect, and more often wear a smile, remembering that this special dash might only last a little while.
So, when your eulogy is being read with your life's actions to rehash... Would you be pleased with the things they say about how you spent your dash?
Sent to me via E-mail, author unknown.
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 12:28:32 -0800 From: The Fergusons <[email protected]> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Lida WHITNEY, 1878-1949 To: [email protected]
I have just begun research into my WHITNEY's. Well...my WHITNEY (singular!). Here is what I have. I hope it looks familiar to someone out there.
Lida WHITNEY (b. 1878, d. 1949) m. James Morley ZANDER (b. 1884, d. 1949). I only know of one child so far, James Morley ZANDER II (b. 10 Dec 1904 in St Charles, MI, m. 30 Dec 1925 in Saginaw, MI, to Ola Damon MORDEN, d. 3 Jan 1963 in Saginaw, MI).
I don't have parents for Lida yet, or anything else for that matter! I'm awaiting a death certificate from MI.
Any information on this family would be greatly appreciated.
Sheri
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 17:03:53 -0800 From: Shawn Whitney <[email protected]> Subject: [Fwd: [WHITNEY-L] Pierce Transcription Process]
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Here is a response that I received this morning that I wanted to share with the group.. I realize that we are "in process" on the Pierce book but perhaps if we get hung up or run out of volunteers this could become an option. I live in Seattle about 15 minutes from the University of WA. I will check out what they may have. Shawn
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From: "Roger O. Young" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Pierce Transcription Process To: [email protected] (Shawn Whitney) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:44:16 -0500 (EST)
There is such a device. Or, at least, a similar device. I have seen it working at the Alden Library at Ohio University in AThens, OH. Actually, it is a scanner-type device that attaches to the microfilm reader screen, and scans the image into a computer. What I saw was for enhancing the printed image, but it could also be used to capture the file, I believe. It doesn't scan the film directly into the computer, but it will digitize the image for further manipulation. Anyone near a large University library might want to ask if they have something similar.
>
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> WRG,
> Does anyone know if a microfilm reader exists that will download onto a
> computer? Just to bypass the scanning process? Perhaps Allan's copy has better
> type than the books the rest of us have and an OCR would better tackle it. I
> guess there would still be the problem of the indentations etc.
> Just an idea.
> Shawn Whitney
>
>
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > Dear Tim and others involved:
> >
> > A thought occurred to me. The IIGS (International Internet Genealogical
> > Society?) is trying to keep a record of all ongoing document and record
> > transcription projects to help avoid duplication and promote efficiency and
> > common standards. Could they A) help us with format and procedure questions,
> > and B) allow us to make known our intentions to avoid overlap?
> > Is this something we want to connect with?
> >
> > BTW, remember, I can't help, but did offer the loan of my very good microfilm
> > copy of the Pierce to anyone who can use it at home. It is a copy of the
> > original publication done by University Microfilms in Ann Arbor.
> >
> > Allan E. Green
>
>
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:00:45 -0700 (MST) From: Pamela Wojahn <[email protected]> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Whitney To: [email protected]
I have Henry Whitney from Norwalk, 1681 who married Elizabeth Olmstead. His father was John Whitney who married Elizabeth Smith. John's father came from England.
All this info comes from the Phoenix books on the Whitneys. Is there a web site for this family history and does it include the English Whitneys?
I understand there is an R.L.Ward website with a lot of info as well. Does anyone have that website address as well.
Thank you for the info.
Sincerely Pam
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:21:33 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Whitney <[email protected]> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] The Dash--Copyright information To: [email protected]
It has been pointed out that "The Dash" recently sent is the copyrighted
work of Linda Ellis <[email protected]>. You can see it online in its
original form at <http://www.lindaslyrics.com/poem2.htm> and obtain other
works by this author from <http://www.lindaslyrics.com/>.
From: [email protected]
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:35:13 EST
Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Microfilm Scanners
To: [email protected]
Machines do exist that scan microfilm as .tiff files. I saw one at the National Postmark Museum in some little town in Ohio when I was doing a news story about the Postmark Museum. Also, if anyone has ever visited the BLM website, they have 3 million land patents from 1830 on down available for download as .tiff files, and they must have done it with a machine from microfilm. They probably even have a machine to load that machine! (BTW it's a great site for research.) However, I think transcribing by hand is probably just as fast, because of the tiny type and poor quality of Pierce. But that machine would be perfect, combined with OCR, for Phoenix, which is printed with much larger and more legible type, if we ever decide to do that book.
From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:44:50 EST Subject: [WHITNEY-L] HARRIS/WHITNEY To: [email protected]
i have a Ann Mercy HARRIS married to Benjamin WHITNEY in Oswego, New York. Her body was interred in "Fish Neighborhood" near Deacon Lum's. Ann was born 1761 died 21 August 1835 in Ellisburg, New York age 74... where/what is "Fish Neighborhood" near Deacon Lum's? Does anyone have Ann's birth date? This is on the Henry WHITNEY line... thank you Liz Elmhurst, Illinois
From: "Ronald Weaver" <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 15:59:29 -0500 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Re: Albertus Whitney, PA Census 1870 To: [email protected]
>From a visit to the local LDS-FHC. PA CENSUS
Bedford Borough, Bedford County, Pennsylvania, 9th day of June 1870, Page
376. Whitney Albertus or Albertis 51 W M Illusinist B. New York Annie 33 F W keeping House B. New York Albertus or Albertis 15 MW B. Michigan Lincoln 7 M W B. New York Grant 1 M W B. Pennsylvania Hope this helps some Whitney searcher. Ron [email protected]
From: "Ronald Weaver" <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 16:10:45 -0500 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Re: Walter Whitney Pa census 1870 To: [email protected]
Pennsylvania Census 1870. Bedford Township, Bedford County, Pennsylvania, 8th day of June 1870, page 342.
Whitney Walter N. 30 M W Minister M E B. Penna.
Eliza 24 F W Keeping House B. Penna.
Henry Howard M W 3 B. Penna.
Mary Luella F W 1 B. Penna.
Hope this helps some Whitney searcher. Ron [email protected] .
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:51:33 -0400
From: [email protected] (Jan Whitaker)
Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Special Maine 1837 Census
To: [email protected]
Dear WRG's,
All Maine researchers might like to look at this site that has:
Lorenzo, Pellatiah and Salmon Whitney in Letter E, Franklin Co. (near Rangeley, Madrid & Sandy River) Samuel in Bridgewater, Aroostook Co. Thomas and Ebenezer in Burnham,an annexed part of Clinton Gore in Waldo Co. Simeon in West Forks, (west side of the Kennebec River) Somerset Co. the URL <http://www.rootsweb.com/~meandrhs/history/usdebt/census/Maine/1837.html> Happy Hunting, Jan
From: [email protected]
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:55:37 EST
Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Canadian Whitneys
To: [email protected]
Dear WRG Canadian sub-group:
Now that we know you are getting together, I ran across this marriage entry tonight in the Vital Records of Littleton, Worcester, MA.
Joshua (Whitney) of Quebec and Miss Harriet Tuttle of Littleton, Sept. 27, 1810, by Rev. E. Foster [p, 247]
Hope it helps someone.
Allan E. Green
From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:55:44 EST Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Weston VR transcription problem To: [email protected]
Dear WRG:
I would like to ask someone with access to the printed book of Weston Vital Records to check what seems to be a small discrepancy in our transcriptions of the Whitney entries. The matter concerns the two sons of Joseph-5 (John-4, Joseph-3, John-2, John-1) and Mary (Child) Whitney who were named Abijah.
According to the Waltham, MA, Vital Records, this Joseph Whitney and Mary Child were married 3 Nov 1743 in Waltham. In (our transcription of) the Weston VR's the first child named Abijah is assigned a birthdate of 6 Sep 1741, over two years before the marriage. Immediately after that entry is a baptism for an Abijah Whitney dated 9 Sep 1744, with a further note that says "b. last Thurs.", and I have always thought the first was simply a transcription error and that the boy was born on Thursday, September 6th, and baptised the following Sunday, September 9, 1744.
A few minutes ago I ran that through my calendar utility and found out that it doesn't work. The ninth of September occurs on a Wednesday in 1744, the sixth would have been the previous Sunday, and the previous Thursday would have been the third! (Unless, of course, my calendar utility is making the mistake.)
The entry for the death of this first Abijah supports the theory that the initial entry dated 1741 was a mistranscription, because the record of his death on 4 Oct 1756 gives his age as 12 years. I am really curious to know if the entries in the book itself shed any light on this question.
Too much curiosity is sometimes a dangerous thing <G>
Allan E. Green
From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:13:03 EST Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Michigan Whitneys, 1850 To: [email protected]
I have created a page to identify the Whitneys in the 1850 Michigan census, which I have a lot of info on, but before I start adding data, it would be very helpful to have some feedback on how easy the page is to use, whether the format is sound, etc. I'm not very good at HTML, and it may be a bit sub standard. If anyone would look at it and send me a note, I would be very grateful. Thanks, A. Whitney Brown It's found here:
<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/idiotmron/Whit1850Cen/1850id.html">
Identification of Whitneys in the 1850 Michigan census</A> That is: http://members.aol.com/idiotmron/Whit1850Cen/1850id.html
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 21:22:33 -0500 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Whitney
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At 09:00 AM 2/2/99 -0700, you wrote: >I have Henry Whitney from Norwalk, 1681 who married Elizabeth >Olmstead. His father was John Whitney who married Elizabeth >Smith. John's father came from England. > >All this info comes from the Phoenix books on the Whitneys. Is there a >web site for this family history and does it include the English Whitneys? > >I understand there is an R.L.Ward website with a lot of info as well. >Does anyone have that website address as well. > >Thank you for the info. > >Sincerely Pam
Pam,
This is R. L. Ward himself. See the following URL:
<http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/index.html>
For the Henry-1 WHITNEY family of Long Island and Connecticut, see this address:
<http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/henry/index.html>
If you send me your lineage I will post it along with all the other WHITNEY descendants', at <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/lineages.html>
Regards,
Robert
Robert L. Ward 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/index.html
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 01:54:27 -0600 From: Jerry McClure <[email protected]> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] MASON WHITNEY - 1765-1854 NY To: [email protected]
I came across the following on the Jefferson Co. NY GenWeb site and thought maybe it may be a help to someone:
Mason Whitney was born in 1765. He married Dolly Ransom and they had five children. Erastus Whitney, son of Mason, was born in Herkimer County, NY, in 1797. At the age of 18 years he bought his time from his father and came to this county, and engaged in clearing land in Theresa and Philadelphia, Jefferson Co., NY. He married Mary, daughter of Moses Chadwick, of Philadelphia, Jefferson Co., NY, in 1826, who died in 1872. He died in 1854, on the farm which he had settled. He had five sons and three daughters, namely; William M., Seymour M., Marion H. (deceased), Mason (deceased), Harriet M., Ann E. (Mrs. Aldrich), George E., and Duane L. (deceased).
Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne Muse" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Fwd: {not a subscriber} Whitney & Lamphere Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:20:19 -0500 To: [email protected]
Hello everyone! On 1/19, Michael advised that a non-subscriber had tried to post a message to the Whitney Group. The message from Doris Livingstone [email protected] read:
>Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Fwd: {not a subscriber} Whitney & Lamphere
>I have that Hannah b: 6 Sept 1754 m 1st. Roswell Chidsey of East Haven, >Ct. She m:2nd John Whitney of Branford, Ct. on 26 Jun 1810 .They are >both buried in the Old Graveyard in Branford, not one fourth mile east >of their house.He d: 8 Sept 1835, age 82. She d: 15 Jul 1844 of fits at >age 90. Have information on her parents if you would like it. >Doris
This gives us new information for our Henry Whitney of Connecticut database.This John Whitney is: JOHN WHITNEY-5 (John-4, Richard-3, John-2, Henry-1).
Corrected information should now be:
John Whitney (son of John Whitney and Deborah Smith) b. 13 Apr 1754 Branford, New Haven, Connecticut d. 8 Sep 1835 Branford, New Haven, Connecticut Burial place: Old Graveyard, Branford, Conn.
D.A.R. Records: "John Whitney (1754-1835) served as privateer and commanded the sloop "Wooster", 1777, for which service he received a pension. He was born and died in Branford, Conn."
John Whitney married 1st on 18 Dec 1776 in Branford, Conn.: Amy Howd b. ? d. 24 Oct 1809, Branford, New Haven, Conn. Seven children from this marriage: Mary (1777), Joseph (1778), Betsy (1781), Grace (1783), John (1785), Startira (1791), Samuel (1793).
John Whitney married 2nd on 26 Jun 1810 in Branford, Conn: Hannah LAMPHERE (previously spelled Lamphier) - widow of Roswell Chidsey of East Haven, Conn. b. 6 Sep 1754 d. 15 Jul 1844 Branford, New Haven, Conn. age 90 Burial place: Old Graveyard, Branford, Conn. No known children from this marriage.
- -) Jeanne (Whitney) Muse
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwmuse [email protected] -
Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne Muse" <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:53:57 -0500 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Re: WHITNEY-GLAZIER CONNECTION To: [email protected]
Dear Bob: I am sending a copy of this to our Whitney Research Group on Rootsweb, since many others there might be interested in the information you gave me on these lines. As reference, this message involves ABNER-6 WHITNEY (Samuel-5, William-4, Nathanial-3, John-2, John-1) and his two wives ELIZABETH GLAZIER and LEVINA GLAZIER.
Thank you for pointing out my error -- that these two women were COUSINS, not sisters. I will make sure my personal database reflects this fact. Jon Aston, keeper of the "official" John Whitney database, should make note of these changes for the group.
My data for Abner's children comes mainly from the Vital Records of Westminster, Mass. and Ashburnham, Mass. for the surname Whitney; Heywood's History of Westminster and the Whitney Genealogy by Franklin Pierce.
ABNER WHITNEY and ELIZABETH GLAZIER (daughter of John Glazier and Esther ? ) had 3 children: 1) Oliver Whitney b. 8 Dec 1770 Westminster; d. 24 Jun 1794 Westminster "Died Unmarried" 2) John Whitney b. 28 Jul 1772 Westminster; died **see below** - married Susannah Smith on 4 Feb 1796. 1 known child: Benjamin Whitney b. 17 Sep 1796 Westminster; d. 19 Jan 1873 Fitchburg, Mass. (this is my line) 3) Levi Whitney b. 1 Jan 1777 Westminster; married Rebecca (or Phebe?) Warren on 15 Oct 1799 in Westminster.
- John Whitney's date of death ~could~ be 1802, as shown in the Westminster
Vital Records, but this has not been proven. If true, I would be interested to know if his widow, Susannah (Smith) Whitney, remarried and to whom. Also interested in learning Susannah Smith's parentage.**
ABNER WHITNEY and LEVINAH GLAZIER (daughter of Joseph Glazier and Eunice Newton) had 7 children, as shown in my database: 1) Jonas Ward Whitney b. 22 Apr 1780, Westminster; d. 8 Jun 1826 Westminster - married Phebee Rand on 27 May 1800 in Westminster - 9 children 2) Joseph Glazier Whitney b. 22 Jun 1783 Westminster; d. 31 Jul 1868 Ashburnham - married Levina Dunn on 14 Sep 1805 - 7 children 3) Elizabeth Whitney b. 2 Aug 1785 Westminster; married Lorey Barnes 4) Dolley Whitney b. 26 Oct 1791 Westminster; married Vinal Dunn 5) Abel Whitney b. 14 May 1793 Westminster; d. 18 Apr 1852 "d. unm" 6) Emily S. Whitney b. abt 1794; d. 11 Jan 1832 Ashburnham 7) Levinah Whitney b. abt. 1796; d. 21 Aug 1837 Ashburnham
Again, thank you for your assistance with this line and for any further information you might have.
- -) Jeanne (Whitney) Muse
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwmuse [email protected] -
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From: glasier <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 3:02 PM Subject: WHITNEY-GLAZIER CONNECTION
>With reference to Abner and Elizabeth, research of the Glasier-Glazier
>family by Prentss C. Glazier and myself, states she was the daughter of
John
>3 Glazier and Esther ? of Lancaster, MA. I do not have a list of their
>children.
>Elizabeth must have died about 1778-79 because Abner remarried Elizabeth's
>cousin, Levina Glazier, b. May 9, 1752 at Shrewsbury, d. April 3, 1787 at
>Westminster, MA. Levina was the daughter of Joseph 3 Glazier and Eunice
>Newton of Lancaster. Levina had been previously married to Jonas Ward, Jr.
>Abner and Levina had children. I think they were Jonas Ward Whitnery and
>Joseph Glazier Whitnery. Perhaps you could complete the names and dates of
>the offspring of these two marriages.
>The progenitor of the Glaziers in America dates to about 1656 when John
>Glasher was on record as an indentured servant in Woburn at age about 19.
>My sources are the VR's of Westminster, Lancaster and Shrewsbury.
>Look forward tohearing from you. Regards, Bob Glasier
>
>
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:01:21 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Whitney <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] MASON WHITNEY - 1765-1854 NY To: [email protected]
On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Jerry McClure wrote:
> I came across the following on the Jefferson Co. NY GenWeb site and thought > maybe it may be a help to someone: > > Mason Whitney was born in 1765. He married Dolly Ransom and they had five > children. Erastus Whitney, son of Mason, was born in Herkimer County, NY, ... > Jefferson Co., NY. He married Mary, daughter of Moses Chadwick, of
This Mason is in Pierce as # 1315, the son of one of the three Micah Whitneys. (John & Elinor line) Mason is listed in the Herkimer County, NY, US Census 1800, 1820, 1830.
The Jefferson County, NY, Genweb site is wonderful! However, there are a few typos (in the original) in this info. His wife was Dolly Rawson (not Ransom). And Erastus's wife was known as Betsey, at least in family records and her own will. I have some more info on this Whitney line if anyone wants to compare notes on Herkimer County or Philadelphia (Jefferson County), New York (NOT Pennsylvania).
Mason was born in Massachusetts. Does anyone know the details of his move to Herkimer County, NY? Does anyone know of living descendants of Mason's children other than Erastus? Does anyone know anything of descendants of Erastus other than Seymour Murray Whitney who moved to Georgia?
Thanks for posting this info on the Jefferson County web site to the list. While we're focused on Whitneys, I'll repeat below a question we got about another Herkimer County Whitney a while back.
Thanks, Barry John Barry Whitney III
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Name: Cliff Whitney E-mail: [email protected] From: Charlotte,NC. Referred By: Other genealogy page Comments: My G-grandfather, Percy WHITNEY and my grandfather, Frank Douglas Whitney, lived at Kast Bridge north of the town of Herkimer in 1880. I'm trying to find Percy's father's name.
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 22:28:37 -0600 From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Pierce page 37 help To: [email protected]
The transcriber for pages 35-40 has brought it to my attention that my copy of Pierce has a portion of page 37 missing. Could someone out there who also has a copy of Pierce look at page 37 and fill in the missing parts of the last 3 sentences on the page?
Thanks!
Here's what we can read with what we can't replaced with [???]:
In 1721 Jonathan Whitney's name is found among the list of those taxed for the [??]inister's rate in Sherborn. He paid one of the largest taxes. In 1723 his name was [????] on a petition to be set off as a separate town. This was afterward called Hol- [??????]n. In 1727 he was chosen committee in Holliston in relation to land for minis-
Tim Doyle http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ [email protected] ftp://ftp.doit.com/pub/tdoyle/
From: "jetjock" <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:25:28 -0800 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Errors in Pierce. To: [email protected]
I am a recent subscriber to this group and was pleased to see that there is some movement towards transcribing the Pierce book to a data base. However, there are already some files on R. Ward's site that show some of the errors in the book, and I have some others to list. If you are going to copy the book as printed, I would like to suggest that you precede any available search with a required visit to the error files. No sense in copying known errors for a faulty genealogy.
The errors I have listed here were handwritten in the book I researched. The person cited the NEHGR of Jan., 1984 as the source.
Pg. 36, # 176, Joshua is actually the man # 189 on page 37. That will change him on page 58 so that his #176 father is not William, but is David, # 56. That then makes the Joshua, # 189 on page 59 a son of this same William, # 54. This of course messes up all the following generations of these two men. So the rest of the pages that need correcting, and there may be more, begin with page 111, # 540 who is a son of #176, needs to have his grandfather changed to David. On the same page, # 542, the line becomes Benjamin/Joshua, David, not William. On page 114, # 583, the father is Joshua and his father is William. On page 116, # 585, Josiah/Joshua/WILLIAM, not David. On page 116 again, # 586, same lineage as the above # 583. Page 214, # 1411 & # 1413 need to be corrected.
Other errors in the book needing review are on page 61, # 198 should be # 203. Page 71, # 276, David m Mehitable Dewing, d/o Henry & Mehitable on 7 Dec., 1716 in Nedham, MA, per the NEHGS & page 213 of Nedham Vital Records. She was born in Nedham on 6 Nov., 1720. The marriage year date was not scratched out so I am assuming the person meant the year was still 1743.
On pages 113 & 114 the numbers 1490, 1491 & 1492 are duplicated and the persons are not the same.
On page 261, # 1106 1/2 is really # 1886.
On page 367, # 2884, has a hand written note above his name, "of Parker, Calif."
Hope you can use the information, Ben Whitney.
From: "jetjock" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:42:41 -0800 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] MA/NJ/OH Whitney's To: [email protected]
Has any one out there ever heard of a Glassford Whitney? I have been searching for this man for over 25 years. He was my G-Great grandfather and his son is as far back as I can trace. The son, Milton Whitney says he was born in Licking Co., OH about 1817, his mother evidently died of childbirth, his father left Milton in the care of a Spencer family and was never heard from again. An old letter done about 1926 states that Milton's father was from Mass. and married near Philadelphia, a woman whose name is thought to have been Black. I am aware of the Whitney's that had the glass factory across the river in Glassboro, NJ and a reading of the Glassboro Story, which was recently provided on this site by Kathy Whitney Conlin, provided no clue. I had thought the name Glassford might have become corrupted from Glassboro. The old letter read that the father "was a Glassford Whitney". After twenty five years you'll jump at any conclusion. I also have searched the surname Glassford (Glasford) and have found two marriages of a Whitney to a Glassford, both in Canada but the time frame does not seem to work out. One of those marriages is found on page 112, # 560, David Whitney married second to Mary Glassford, date unknown. The dates of the children are unknown to me except for Calvin who was born 14 Jan., 1816 (date not in Pierce).
Any help very much appreciated, Ben Whitney
From: "jetjock" <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:52:27 -0800 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Correction to "Errors in Pierce" To: [email protected]
I just submitted the errors list and see that I too made a mistake in transcribing!
Page 71, # 276. The marriage date should read 7 Dec., 1743, her birth date should be 6 Nov.., 1720.
Ben Whitney
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 07:26:28 -0600 From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Errors in Pierce. To: [email protected]
Ben:
Our plan is to transcribe the Pierce book word-for-word, including all errors. After we finish, we will setup a procedure whereby people can bring foreward errors. If the group agrees that there is indeed an error, a notation or hot-link will be added directing researchers to a site or addendum that fully describes the error and the reason for believing it to be one. In this way we will end up with both an accurate digital version of the book as well as a way to make sure researchers do not miss problems that others have identified.
Thank you for the list of errors you sent. I will keep them here for when we get to that stage of this process.
At 09:25 PM 2/3/99 -0800, you wrote:
>I am a recent subscriber to this group and was pleased to see that there is
>some movement towards transcribing the Pierce book to a data base. However,
>there are already some files on R. Ward's site that show some of the errors
>in the book, and I have some others to list. If you are going to copy the
>book as printed, I would like to suggest that you precede any available
>search with a required visit to the error files. No sense in copying known
>errors for a faulty genealogy.
Tim Doyle http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ [email protected] ftp://ftp.doit.com/pub/tdoyle/
From: [email protected] Date: 4 Feb 1999 21:29:44 CST/CDT Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Maine Whitneys in census To: [email protected]
Dear WRG:
This was just sent to me by my very kind and helpful cousin in Bangor, ME:
"At the library, I checked Census records for Northport (ME) and found:
1820 Richard Whitney Males: 1 under 10; 1 age 10-16; 1 age 26-45 Females: 3 under 10; 1 age 10-16; 1 age 26-45.
In 1830, still Northport Richard Whitney Males: 1 age 5-10; 2 age 10-15; 1 age 20-30; 1 age 40-50 Females: 1 under 5; 1 age 5-10; 1 age 10-15; 1 age 15-20; 1 age 20-30; 1 age 40-50.
In 1840, Richard was not listed. I think he was in Sebec by then."
Greg Cote
From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:48:52 EST Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Pierce page 37 help To: [email protected]
In a message dated 2/3/99 11:33:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
<< [email protected] >>
The paragraph reads:
In 1721 Jonathan Whitney's name is found among the list of those taxed for the minister's rate in Sherborn. He paid one of the largest taxes. In 1723 his name was first on a petition to be set off as a seperate town. This was afterward called Holliston . In 1727 he was chosen committee in Holliston in relation to land for minister. ...
Jon Aston
From: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:21:24 EST
Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Michigan Whitneys
To: [email protected]
After some good feedback, I have put up a page to identify the Whitneys in the 1850 census of Michigan. I'm putting them up as I have time. My main problem right now is, that I'm pretty sure I know who many of them are, but without the age or wife on the census transcript, I can't be absolutely sure, which John, or George, or Benjamin we're talking about. So visit the page if you have an interest in Michigan Whitneys, and if anyone has information from transcripts; age and wife, especially, please e-mail and I can get positively identify them...Thanks, A. 'Whitney Brown It's here: <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/idiotmron/Whit1850Cen/1850id.html">Whitneys of Michigan, 1850</A>
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:44:49 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Whitney <[email protected]> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Land Deeds Research (fwd) To: [email protected]
Perhaps this could be helpful to someone..........BW
Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:30:24 EST From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Land Deeds Research
Here is an interesting bookmark:
<A HREF="http://www.ultranet.com/~deeds/research.htm">Land Record Research
Directory</A>
Steve Dahlstrom Listowner
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:16:28 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Whitney <[email protected]>
Subject: [WHITNEY-L] The DAR library is now on line (fwd) To: [email protected]
Could be useful.......
Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:45:48 -0700 From: Vonne Bricker <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: The DAR library is now on line
...
Vonne
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 15:30:55 -0500
From: Michael Roman <[email protected]>
Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Pierce transcriptions
To: [email protected]
I'm willing to do my share from the pages I have copied. They are: 10-29, 41-44, 67-70, 133-134
I don't know what's already taken, so let me know where I can fit in. This is a GREAT idea, btw!
For the corrections file:
- 78 m. Mercy Robinson whose birth date is mixed up. She was b. 7 Aug 1676.
Pierce has 6 Sep and probably mixed up the month and day when
converting from Julian date of 7th of 6th month or some such.
- 732 m. Abigail Joslin (see NEHGR article Apr 1983)
- 1830 m. Elijah Bruce
Michael http://pw2.netcom.com/~mj_roman/index.htm
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 15:18:57 -0600 From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Pierce transcriptions To: [email protected]
At 03:30 PM 2/5/99 -0500, Michael Roman <[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm willing to do my share from the pages I have copied. They are: >10-29, 41-44, 67-70, 133-134
Unfortunately (or fortunately) all of the pages that you mention have been adopted by other volunteers. Overall, we're currently 7% complete and 27% adopted, but when looking at just the first 100 pages, we're 30% complete and 90% adopted.
The up-to-date status of the Pierce Project can be seen at
http://outburst.com/whitney/pierce/home.html
For those of you waiting to here back from me, I'm running a bit behind as I am just getting over the flu.
Thanks again to everyone who has volunteered!
Tim
Tim Doyle http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ [email protected] ftp://ftp.doit.com/pub/tdoyle/
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 15:50:43 -0600 From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Pierce Transcriptions To: [email protected]
While we have had many people volunteer to transcribe, I seem to be the only person currently scanning and photocopying pages.
Do you have a copy of Pierce?
Do you have a scanner?
Do you have access to a photocopier?
Would you be willing to scan and e-mail or photocopy and snail mail? If so, please e-mail me and I'll coordinate everything.
Thank you!
P.S.: I cringed when I saw the mistake in my previous posting, "For those of you waiting to HERE back from me..." Argh!
Tim Doyle http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ [email protected] ftp://ftp.doit.com/pub/tdoyle/
From: "Eleanore Dilello" <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 21:47:02 -0500 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Re: Samuel Whitney & Lawrenceville To: [email protected]
this is to all the whitneyites who are descended from Samuel
Whitney (John &Elinor line) b. 1758 Newton, Mass. son of Joseph Whitney. According to Pierce, Samuel went to Lawrenceville, NY where he died. However, upon inquiring there are 4 Lawrenceville, NY's. Does anyone know for sure which Lawrenceville NY Samuel went to?
Tks Eleanore Dilello
From: [email protected]
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 13:44:21 EST
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Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Fwd: [NORTHEAST] Subject: Marriage Date Eben. Whitney & Rachel.. To: [email protected]
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Dear MainFlor:
You didn't sign your message to me that you copied to NE-Roots, and I wasn't careful enough to realize that you were not Karen Montgomery, whose response to me (CC: NE-Roots) you copied in your note and with whom I had earlier discussed this problem. I beg your pardon for the mistake. I have taken the liberty of copying over my message to you and readdressing it to you and including copies to Karen and NE-Roots, for their information as well. I do thank you again for taking the time to interest yourself in this problem and offer assistance.
Allan E. Green
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From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORTHEAST] Subject: Marriage Date Eben. Whitney & Rachel.. Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 13:32:38 EST
Dear Karen:
This is one of the marriage dates that stands in question in my original posting. I do tend to think, however, for geographical reasons, that the Ebenezer Whitney who is the son of Amos and Sarah Payne Whitney is not the one involved in the marriage we are interested in. That Ebenezer was born 30 Dec 1749 in York, Maine, and is shown in my database as marrying a Mrs. Sarah Thompson (widow) in Buxton, York, ME in 1779.
Does the FTM CD (is that Family Tree Maker?) give any sources for their data? The transcription of the Whitney entries in the Uxbridge Vital Records shows that same marriage information, but also says that Ebenezer is "of Montague"! Was the source of the data at the Mormon Church's FHC the CD series known as Ancestral File? If so, those contain a lot of good information and pointers for places to search, but cannot be taken as gospel because they are based on submissions from thousands of people, whose genealogies are accepted uncritically and whose research and documentation technique are unknown.
The problem I'm trying to resolve here is the conflict between the data printed in the Vital Records of Uxbridge, which provides the Dec 28, 1776 date, and the Vital Records of Montague, which provide the Dec 28, 1786 date. The Vital Records from which I take this data are, however, NOT the original books of the MA Vital Records series, but transcriptions of the Whitney entries in these books that have been collected by members of the Whitney Research Group. Since humans are involved, the possibility of transcription error enters the picture. That is why I asked for someone to check the actual Uxbridge Vital Records book itself, to see if there was a mistranscription.
Did your sources come up with a better or more certain birth date for Rachael Paine Rawson? Since my transcriptions are of the Whitney entries only, I cannot look for such a birthdate. That is another reason why I was hoping for someone to actually look in the Uxbridge book at a library somewhere.
I guess the question is still open. I'll try again with another query on the Whitney list in hopes of finding some friend that has a town library with a good collection of the MA VR series and who will do the lookups for us.
Keep in Touch.
Allan
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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 20:18:47 -0500 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif">
Subject: [WHITNEY-L] WHITNEYs in Henry Bond's _Watertown_ To: [email protected]
Dear WRG,
I have just uploaded to my website my transcription of the sections on the WHITNEY family from:
Bond, Henry, _Genealogies of the Families and Descendants of the Early Settlers of Watertown, Massachusetts, Including Waltham and Weston; to Which is Appended the Early History of the Town. With Illustrations, Maps, and Notes_.
I have attempted to make it verbatim et literatim. If anyone detects errors in transcription, please let me know so that I can correct them.
Go to the following URL to find this data:
<http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/sources/bond.html>
Enjoy!
Regards,
Robert
Robert L. Ward 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/index.html
From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 07:58:22 EST Subject: [WHITNEY-L] For Canadian Whitneys To: [email protected]
In searching through my notes this morning, I ran across this entry. I pass it on on the chance that it might be helpful to someone.
Birth of Susan Whitney, 20 Aug 1823, possibly in Three Rivers (Trois Riviere), Quebec; daughter of Newhall and Elizabeth Whitehead Whitney, the latter also of Three Rivers. Susan later married a Charles M. Hanks.
Allan E. Green
From: [email protected] (Norris) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:20:00 GMT Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Henry Whitney - Looking for Turpentine To: [email protected]
Hi:
Found this today searching for material on my ancestors Thomas Osman and William Purrier:
http://www.gendex.com/users/rtwgen/mwheeler/d0028/g0000068.html#NI24391
"Thomas Osman gave a deposition in 1658 in which he told the story of he, William Purrier,Thomas Reeve, James Reeve, Thomas Terill, William Salmon, Thomas Benedict, Henry Whitney and others exploring for "sperrits resin" (turpentine) in "ye Chowan country" (North Carolina) in 1636/37. Upon failure of this adventure, these men in the following winter or spring settled on Hashamomuck Neck in the present town of Southold, Long Island. A copy of this deposition appears in the Southold Commemorative Book, 1636-1939. ("Genealogy up to 1800 of the Reeve Family of Southold, Long Island, NY," Wesley L. Baker, 1970, page 340)."
____________
Norris
-- Silver Bullet <[email protected]> Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 19:41:26 -0500 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Henry Whitney - Looking for Turpentine To: [email protected]
At 11:20 PM 2/7/99 GMT, Norris wrote: >Found this today searching for material on my ancestors Thomas Osman >and William Purrier: > >http://www.gendex.com/users/rtwgen/mwheeler/d0028/g0000068.html#NI24391 > >"Thomas Osman gave a deposition in 1658 in which he told the story of >he, William Purrier,Thomas Reeve, James Reeve, Thomas Terill, William >Salmon, Thomas Benedict, Henry Whitney and others exploring for >"sperrits resin" (turpentine) in "ye Chowan country" (North Carolina) >in 1636/37. Upon failure of this adventure, these men in the following >winter or spring settled on Hashamomuck Neck in the present town of >Southold, Long Island. A copy of this deposition appears in the >Southold Commemorative Book, 1636-1939. ("Genealogy up to 1800 of the >Reeve Family of Southold, Long Island, NY," Wesley L. Baker, 1970, >page 340)."
This is the first mention of Henry-1 WHITNEY in America that I have seen. Very interesting! It also pretty well settles that his son John-2 must have been born in America, probably at Southold. Possibly his first wife belonged to one of the early families of Southold.
Regards,
Robert
Robert L. Ward 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/index.html
From: "sheila peel" <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 20:34:21 -0500 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Pierce Publication To: [email protected]
Could anyone please send me the information for page 615 and 617 of the Pierce book? A relative sent me a portion of the book and they left off these pages. I beleive that they have the information that I need on my line of Whitneys. I already have some information but I would love to see what they say about James Lewis Whitney-(James L., Abraham J., James, Samuel, Samuel, Nathaniel, John, John.) Listings 7402 and 7403 are his brothers and I am sure that the following pages would have some information about this James Lewis Whitney.
Thanks so much for the help. Sheila Stratton-Peel [email protected]
From: "Kenneth Whitney" <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 14:11:00 PST
Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Josiah Whitney Puzzle
To: [email protected]
Josiah Whitney of Gorham, Maine
On 31 Oct 1998, Ellen M. Collins of Portland, OR sent a message
concerning the puzzle of Josiah Whitney, #618 in F.C. Pierce's genealogy. I was previously acquainted with the puzzle when sorting through the early family of York and Gorham, Me. Her message contained new Canadian information, and tweaked my interest, which turned into an obsession. Although the puzzle is far from completely solved, I believe I can now provide a new framework in order to stimulate thought, discussion, and future research and contribution.
Secondary Source Material:
1. F.C. Pierce's Whitney Genealogy
Page 62, #207, Elder Nathaniel Whitney (Nathaniel, Benjamin, John), m.
Molly Day
ch. i. Moses, b. 1739, m. Molly Page & Abigail _______
ii. Nathan, b.________
#618, iii. Josiah, b._________, m. Hannah Barstow
iv. Aaron, b. __________
v. Asa, b. Dec. 1754, m. Flora _______ and Phebe Hopkins
vi. Abel, b._______;m. Thankful Morton
pg. 120, #618, Josiah Whitney (Nathaniel, Nathaniel, Benjamin, John),
b. Cape Cod, m. Cape Cod, Hannah Barstow, b. Cambridge, Mass., 1732; d. 1807, at Cape Breton. He d. Queens Co., Salmon River, N.B., 1810; res. Gasby, Ca. and Salmon River, N.B.
#1587, ch. i. Josiah, b.___________, m. Elizabeth Harding
ii. Seth, b.___________
iii. John, b. 1781, m. __________
iv. Noals, b.___________
v. Eliab T., b. 17 Dec 1789; m. Lydia Butterworth & Lydia
Williams.
vi. Hannah, b.__________
vii. Margaret, b. __________
viii. Sally. b._____________
ix. Martha, b.___________
pg. 229, #1587, Josiah Whitney (Nathaniel, Nathaniel, Benjamin, John),
b. Cape Cod, Mass., m. at Gorham, Me., Elizabeth Harding; b. Gorham, Me. 1749. D. at Alfred in 1841. He died in Alfred, ae. 80. Res. in Gorham and Alfred.
Ch. i. Silas, b. 23 Jun 1779; m. Elvira J. Lane
ii. Ebenezer
iii. Eunice
iv. Seth
v. Abigail
All never married and all resided with the Shakers and were members
of that colony at Alfred, Me.
Pg. 229, #1589, John Whitney (Josiah, Nathaniel, Nathaniel, Benjamin,
John), b. Toronto, Canada, in 1781; He d. 1864, res. Sherbrook & Chipman, N.S.
Pg. 229, #1591, Eliab T. Whitney (Josiah, Nathaniel, Nathaniel,
Benjamin, John), b. Gaspy, Lower Can. , Dec. 17, 1789; d. 2 Apr 1865; res. New Castle and Edgecomb, Me.
2. The History of Gorham, Maine, Hugh D.McLellan
pg. 828, Nathaniel Whitney, lived in Biddeford, where most of his
children's births were recorded.
Josiah, b. 1752, m. Hannah Barstow; 2d, Elizabeth Harding, Sept. 16,
1775; joined the shakers; d. at Alfred, Feb 24, 1837, aged 86.
3. NEHGR, 1925, Vol. LXXIX, pg. 381, The Knowles Family of Eastham, Mass.
6. Col. Samuel Knowles (Samuel2, Richard1)
Children, Born at Eastham:
v. Jerusha, b. 9 Mar 1719/20; d. Prior to 13 Jan 1750/1; m. at
Eastham, 20 Sept 1739, Dr. John Whitney of Harwich, afterwards of Eastham.
Children (surname Whitney):
1. John, b. 2 Sept 1740
2. Josiah, b. 7 Nov 1741
3. Seth, b. 5 Feb 1742/3
4. Nathaniel, apparently the youngest child. On May 9, 1751 Josiah
Sears was appointed guardian of John and Nathaniel, minor sons of John Whitney of Eastham, physician. On 16 Apr 1759 a wood lot in Harwich, south of Cleft Pond, was divided, a half being assigned to Nathaniel Bacon, a third to Enos Knowles, and a sixth to the Whitneys, grandchildren of Samuel Knowles, Esq.
Primary Source Material
1. Vital Records of Gorham, Maine; Marquis King, second edition
pg. 69, Marriage Intentions
Whitney, Josiah, with Elizabeth Harding, Sept. 16, 1775
2. Vital Records of Biddeford, Maine Prior to 1856, John Beatty, Maine Genealogical Society
pg. 67; June 7, 1752, baptised Josiah Son of Nathaniel and Hannah
Whitney
3. Vital Records of the Towns of Eastham and Orleans. An authorized facsimile reproduction of records published serially 1901-1935 in The Mayflower Descendant.
Pg. 103; September 20th, 1739 then John Whitney of Harwich & Jerusha
Knowls of Eastham ware married in Eastham by Mr. Joseph crocker an ordained Minester in Eastham.
Pg. 107; John Whitnee Son of Doctor John Whitnee was born the Second
day of September 1740.
Josiah Whitnee Son of Doctor John Whitnee was born the 7th of November
1741.
Seth Whitnee Son of Doctor John Whitnee was born the 5th day of
February 1742/3. 4. Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA Vital Records
John Whitney, s. of Nathaniel and Sarah Whitney b. 27 Nov 1716
5. Vital Records of York, Maine, edited by Bragdon and Frost
pg. 75; Doct. John Whitney his Children born of his Wife Margaret the
Daughter of Josiah Coffin Esqr. of Sherbourn on the Island of Nantucket
1. Sarah Whitney was born at Sherbourn aforesd Apr 22, 1747
2. Margaret Whitney born in York July 22, 1749
3. John Coffin Whitney born in York Nov 6, 1751
6. Registry Dept. Of the City of Boston, A Volume of Records Relating to the Early History of Boston, Containing Boston Marriages from 1752 to 1809, Boston, MA: Rockwell and Churchill, 1903.
Josiaah and Hannah Turner, Jan. 24, 1771. In Brookline (pg. 349)
Discussion
Hugh D. McLellan, in The History of Gorham, Maine, tells us that Josiah
Whitney, son of Nathaniel and Hannah (Day) Whitney was born in Biddeford, Me and married both Hannah Barstow and Elizabeth Harding. Marriage intentions are recorded, as shown, with Elizabeth Harding in the Gorham Vital Records. However, F.C. Pierce gives a different account of Josiah.
On page 120 of his Whitney genealogy, Pierce claims that #618 Josiah,
son of Nathaniel and Hannah (Molly), was born on Cape Cod instead of in Biddeford, Me, and he married Hannah Barstow. Pierce tells us on pages 120 and 229 that #618 Josiah, Sr. emigrated to Canada, had children
- 1589 John and 1591 Eliab T. in Canada, along with other children, and
died in Salmon River, N.B. in 1810. He then claims, on pg 229, that Josiah and Hannah's son, #1587 Josiah, Jr., was also born on Cape Cod and married Elizabeth Harding. On page 229, #1587, he says Josiah, Jr. and Elizabeth had six children and resided in Gorham and Alfred, Me. However, Pierce left Josiah, Sr. out of the stated lineage. Or did he? I don't think so.
On page 37 of Pierce's work is the accounting of the children of #66
Nathaniel3 (Benjamin2, John1) and his wife, Sarah Ford Whitney. This accounting does not include John, son of Nathaniel and Sarah Whitney, who was born in Sherborn, Middlesex, Mass., 27 Nov 1716, and who became Dr. John Whitney of Eastham on Cape Cod, Nantucket Island, and York, Me. In fact, I can find no mention of this individual in Pierce's work. I believe that this omission gave Pierce the opportunity to confuse the Josiah born on Cape Cod to Dr. John Whitney and Jerusha Knowles with the Josiah born in Biddeford, Me. to Nathaniel and Hannah Whitney (see Biddeford VR above). This confusion led Pierce to list two families of Josiah, son of Nathaniel. One was on page 120 (#618), the family of Josiah and Hannah Barstow, and one on page 229 (#1587), the family of Josiah and Elizabeth Harding. This was even further confused because he first lised, on page 120, Elizabeth Harding as the wife of Josiah's son, Josiah, Jr., then on page 229, she was the wife of Josiah, Sr. This confusion is also reported in Hugh D. McLellan's History of Gorham, Maine..
I believe that the listing of the family of Josiah Whitney and Hannah
Barstow on page 120 is really a combination of the two families of Dr. John Whitney by his first two wives, Jerusha Knowles and Margaret Coffin, along with the children of Dr. John's son Josiah. Dr. John's children by Jerusha Knowles, recorded at Eastham, were Josiah, Seth and John. His children by Margaret Coffin were Sarah (Sally), Margaret, and John Coffin. These account for five of the nine children listed to Josiah and Hannah Barstow. Noals was probably named after Jerusha Knowles' family, and could be either Dr. John's or Josiah's son. I believe that Eliab T., and possibly John (b. in Canada in 1781) and Martha are the children of Josiah and Hannah Barstow.
In addition, I believe that the listing on page 229 of the family of
Josiah and Elizabeth Harding is the family of Josiah, son of Nathaniel and Hannah Day Whitney of Biddeford, Me., not Cape Cod.
To summarize my proposal for a new framework for looking at this
puzzle,
1. Create an new ancestor line and descendants:
Dr. John Whitney (Nathaniel3, Benjamin2, John1), b. Sherborn, MA 27 Nov
1716; m. first, at Eastham, MA 20 Sept 1739, Jersuha Knowles, d. of Samuel and Bethia Knowles, b. in Eastham 9 Mar 1719/20.
Children, all b. in Eastham:
1. John, b. 2 Sept 1740
2. Josiah, b. 7 Nov 1741
3. Seth, b. 5 Feb 1742/3
4. Nathaniel (Is he Noals? KLW)
m. 2nd, Margaret Coffin, d. of Josiah and Elizabeth Coffin of Nantucket
Island, MA
Children:
1. Sarah, b. 22 Apr 1747 at Sherbourne, Nantucket Island, MA
2. Margaret, b. 22 July 1749 at York, ME
3. John Coffin, b. 6 Nov 1751 at York, ME
m. 3rd, Mrs. Hephzibah Adams Adams, d. of Hezekiah and Mary (Ware)
Adams of York, ME, and the widow of Richard Adams.
Children:
1. Hephzibah, b. 30 June 1755 at York, ME
2. Miriam Adams, b. 6 May 1757 at York, ME
2, Page 120, #618, change the ancestor line and descendants to:
Josiah (Dr. John4, Nathaniel3, Benjamin2, John1), b. in Eastham, MA 7
Nov 1741;, m. Hannah Barstow (or Hannah Turner? KLW)
Children:
1. John, b. 1781 in Toronto, Canada (#1589, Pierce)
2. Eliab Turner, b. 17 Dec 1789 in Gaspe, Canada (#1591, Pierce)
3. Martha (?)
4. Noals (?)
3. Page 229, #1587, change the ancestor line and place of birth to:
Josiah (Nathaniel4, Nathaniel3, Benjamin2, John1). Bap. in Biddeford,
ME, 7 June 1752
Some Missing Puzzle Pieces
1. Who is Hannah Barstow? I can't find any record for her. As you can see, there is a record of a Josiah Whitney marrying a Hannah Turner in Brookline, MA on 24 Jan 1771. This is interesting because Eliab's middle name is Turner.(By the way, there are records for him in the Edgecomb, Maine records if anyone is interested.) It has occurred to me that Josiah of Biddeford may have indeed married Hannah Barstow before he married Elizabeth Harding, leaving Josiah of Eastham to marry Hannah Turner only. It seems that Hannah Barstow is a major missing puzzle piece.
2. Is the John Whitney born in Toronto really the son of Josiah? Are there any records?
3. Where did Pierce get the names Noals (Knowles?) and Martha as children of Josiah?
4. If Josiah Sears was appointed guardian of Dr. John's sons John and Nathaniel in 1751, then what happened to Josiah and Seth? Were they apprenticed to someone, or were they with their father, or what? By 1751, Dr. John had two more children by Margaret Coffin, and at third was due shortly in York. If they were with Dr. John, why are they not mentioned in the York vital records, as Sarah was?
If this puzzle generates as much e-mail as the Pierce genealogy copying
project, it should be solved in no-time! Just think, it even has food for thought for our Canadian cousins!
Ken Whitney
Silver Spring, MD
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From: "Kenneth Whitney" <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 14:14:25 PST Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Joseph Whitney of Gorham, Maine To: [email protected]
Joseph Whitney of Gorham, Maine
I am searching for some help in interpreting an apparent conflict
between the Vital Records of Gorham, Maine, Marquis King; second edition and Hugh D. McLellan's The History of Gorham, Maine. The help of anyone with insight on this matter will be appreciated.
The following is taken from the Records of Gorham, Maine, Marquis F. King, second edition, 1991:
Page 100, Marriages:
Whitney, Joseph, Jr. with Mary Freeman, May 16, 1801
Page 172, Births:
Whitney, of Joseph and Betty (Phinney), his second wife,
Joseph, Oct. 18, 1784
Whitney, of Joseph, Jr. and Mary
Vrania, May 7, 1802
One would think that the Joseph, Jr. here is Joseph6 (Joseph5, Abel4, Nathaniel3, Benjamin2, John1), and that he is the son of Joseph and Betty (Phinney) Whitney. Also, from the same source:
Page 171, Births:
Whitney, of Isaac and Mary
Joseph, August 26, 1776
This particular Joseph Whitney would be Joseph6 (Isaac5, Isaac4, Nathaniel3, Benjamin2, John1). Thus, the two Josephs in question are of the same generation, and both were born and and one was married in Gorham, Maine.
The following are taken from the Vital Records of Topsham, Maine To The
Year 1892, Volume II, Mary Pelham Hill; published for the Maine Historical Society in 1930:
Page 279, Marriages:
Joseph Whitney of Lubec, Maine and Nancy Hunter of Topsham intentions
published 6 December 1818.
Page 18, Births:
Mary, daughter of Arthur Hunter and Sarah (Winehill) _________ (P.R.)
In The History of Gorham, Maine, Hugh D. McLellan, 1992, Picton Press,
we find the following:
Page 833: Mr. (Joseph) Whitney married, in 1781, Betty, daughter of
Col. Edmund Phinney. Children:
Joseph, b. Oct 18, 1784, m. Mary Hunter of Topsham.
This marriage of Joseph to Mary Hunter is in contradiction to the vital
records as mentioned above, which say that Joseph Whitney, Jr. married Mary Freeman.
Page 834: Isaac Whitney, son of Isaac married Mary Crockett. Children:
Joseph, b. Aug 26, 1776, m. Mary Freeman, Aug. 2, 1801
If Joseph Whitney, Jr. married Mary Freeman, then this marriage is
incorrect, because this is Joseph, son of Isaac, not Joseph, Jr.
So, at first glance it would appear that McLellan reported the marriage
of Mary Freeman to the wrong Joseph Whitney. Confounding the picture, however, is the ages of the Joseph Whitneys. If Joseph, Jr. did marry Mary Freeman, as the vital records indicate, rather than Mary Hunter, as McLellan reports, then he would have been only sixteen years old at the time. One would think it more probable that Joseph, son of Isaac, married Mary Freeman, as McLellan reports, because he would have been twenty-six years old at the time.
Is it possible that Joseph, son of Isaac, could have been known as
Joseph, Jr.? I can find no will in the Maine Probate Extracts to help with this puzzle. Can anyone contribute incite to the problem?
Ken Whitney
Silver Spring, MD
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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 19:08:49 -0500 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Joseph Whitney of Gorham, Maine To: [email protected]
At 02:14 PM 2/8/99 PST, Kenneth Whitney wrote: >Joseph Whitney of Gorham, Maine > > I am searching for some help in interpreting an apparent conflict >between the Vital Records of Gorham, Maine, Marquis King; second edition >and Hugh D. McLellan's The History of Gorham, Maine. The help of anyone >with insight on this matter will be appreciated. > [SNIP] > So, at first glance it would appear that McLellan reported the marriage >of Mary Freeman to the wrong Joseph Whitney. Confounding the picture, >however, is the ages of the Joseph Whitneys. If Joseph, Jr. did marry >Mary Freeman, as the vital records indicate, rather than Mary Hunter, as >McLellan reports, then he would have been only sixteen years old at the >time. One would think it more probable that Joseph, son of Isaac, >married Mary Freeman, as McLellan reports, because he would have been >twenty-six years old at the time. > > Is it possible that Joseph, son of Isaac, could have been known as >Joseph, Jr.? I can find no will in the Maine Probate Extracts to help >with this puzzle. Can anyone contribute incite to the problem? > > Ken Whitney > Silver Spring, MD
It should be noted that in colonial times, two men or the same name living in the same town at the same time, even if unrelated, were often called "Sr." and "Jr." to differentiate them. Of course senior means, literally, older, and junior means younger, so this is a more literal usage than is common today. Probably Joseph, son of Joseph, would be called Joseph, 3rd, since he was the third oldest of the trio. I have experience with two cases where the numbers got up as high as "5th"!
My guess is that McLellan was right, and Joseph, Jr., was son of Isaac.
Regards,
Robert
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:12:03 -0500 (EST) From: [email protected] (W. WHITNEY) Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Canadian Whitneys To: [email protected]
I have been trying to make a link on some Whitneys found in Nova Scotia prior to the arrival of the Loyalists in 1783 after the Revolution.
John Whitney whose wife was Desire and a son John were in Horton (now Kentville) Nova Scotia in 1761.
John Whitney was a Planter who came from New England to Nova Scotia to fill the vacuum left by the departure of the Acadians. (Maybe the same John.)
Elisha Whitney whose wife was Lydia Boys lived at Hanley Mountain, Nova Scotia and had a daughter Elizabeth who married William Worthylake. Elizabeth was born 4 Dec 1795. Elisha also had a daughter Amy.
Can anyone make the link from these few details ??
Bill Whitney
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 06:57:52 -0600
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From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:24:15 EST Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Whitney of NY and CA To: [email protected]
Hi list: This is what I have to date...
Kim Schildwachter
Generation No. 1
1. EDWIN F. WHITNEY1 He married UNKNOWN.
Children of EDWIN and UNKNOWN are: 2. i. ANITA GROVE2 WHITNEY, b. June 1865, New York.
ii. WILLIAM W. WHITNEY
Generation No. 2
2. ANITA GROVE2 WHITNEY (EDWIN F. WHITNEY1) was born June 1865 in New York. She married JUSTUS HERBERT WILLIAMS June 20, 1885 in Oakland, California, son of ADOLPH WILLIAMS and MARY BALL.
More About ANITA GROVE WHITNEY: Census: 1900, Compton Township, Los Angeles, California Age 34
Notes for JUSTUS HERBERT WILLIAMS: NEWSPAPER: Williams July 27, 1922
Justus H. Williams Husband of Nettie Williams & Father of: Anita W. Mayo Herbert C. Williams Ethel W. Schildwachter Howard E. Williams Funeral will be held July 29, 1922.
More About JUSTUS HERBERT WILLIAMS: Census: 1900, Compton Township, Los Angeles, California Age 35 Funeral: July 29, 1922 Occupation: Farmer
Marriage Notes for ANITA WHITNEY and JUSTUS WILLIAMS: NEWSPAPER: June 20 1885
Justus Herbert Williams A native of Michigan aged 21 - resident of Los Angeles & Anita Grove Whitney A Native of New York Aged 19 Rev. John Rea
NEWSPAPER:
J. H. Williams to Marry Nettie G. Williams By Rev. John Rea At the residence of E. F Whitney Of East Oakland, California
Children of ANITA WHITNEY and JUSTUS WILLIAMS are:
3. i. ETHEL3 WILLIAMS, b. June 4, 1889, Pasadena, California; d. August 11,
1984, Compton, Los Angeles, California.
4. ii. ANITA L. WILLIAMS, b. July 8, 1886, California; d. December 1967,
Compton, Los Angeles, California.
5. iii. HOWARD E. WILLIAMS, b. January 1894, California.
6. iv. HERBERT C. WILLIAMS, b. May 1888, California.
Generation No. 3
3. ETHEL3 WILLIAMS (ANITA GROVE2 WHITNEY, EDWIN F. WHITNEY1) was born June 4, 1889 in Pasadena, California, and died August 11, 1984 in Compton, Los Angeles, California. She married HARRY BENJAMIN SCHILDWACHTER, son of HENRY SCHILDWACHTER and ROSA GYSLER.
More About ETHEL WILLIAMS: Burial: August 15, 1984, Inglewood Park Cemetery - California Census: 1900, Compton Township, Los Angeles, California Age 10
More About HARRY BENJAMIN SCHILDWACHTER: Census: 1900, Compton Township, Los Angeles, California Age 15 Occupation: Dentist / Small Business Owner
Children of ETHEL WILLIAMS and HARRY SCHILDWACHTER are: 7. i. ROBERT LOUIS4 SCHILDWACHTER, b. October 6, 1926, Compton, Los Angeles County, California. 8. ii. HARRY WILLIAMS SCHILDWACHTER, b. May 2, 1924, Compton, Los Angeles, California.
4. ANITA L.3 WILLIAMS (ANITA GROVE2 WHITNEY, EDWIN F. WHITNEY1) was born July 8, 1886 in California, and died December 1967 in Compton, Los Angeles, California. She married MONROE JAMES MAYO, son of AUGUST.
More About ANITA L. WILLIAMS: Census: 1900, Compton Township, Los Angeles, California Age 13
More About MONROE JAMES MAYO: Occupation: Dairy Farmer
Children of ANITA WILLIAMS and MONROE MAYO are:
i. RUTH4 MAYO.
ii. CLARE MAYO.
5. HOWARD E.3 WILLIAMS (ANITA GROVE2 WHITNEY, EDWIN F. WHITNEY1) was born January 1894 in California.
More About HOWARD E. WILLIAMS: Census: 1900, Compton Township, Los Angeles, California Age 6
Children of HOWARD E. WILLIAMS are:
i. DORIS4 WILLIAMS.
ii. BARBARA WILLIAMS.
6. HERBERT C.3 WILLIAMS (ANITA GROVE2 WHITNEY, EDWIN F. WHITNEY1) was born May 1888 in California. He married DELLA.
More About HERBERT C. WILLIAMS: Census: 1900, Compton Township, Los Angeles, California Age 12
Children of HERBERT WILLIAMS and DELLA are:
i. JEAN4 WILLIAMS.
ii. VIRGINIA WILLIAMS.
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 05:37:28 -0600
From: Margie and George Parker <[email protected]>
Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Weston MA VR
To: [email protected]
Allan:
I just received today as a birthday present the CD with the Middlesex County MA VR. I only got a brief chance to look at it for your Abijah Whitney question, but I am pleased to report that it lists the birth of Abijah to Joseph and Mary Whitney on Sep 6 1744.
There are numerous references to the name Abijah Whitney in the Weston VR and I do not have this time right now to check them all. I don't know if the baptism records are included, but the book had more than the standard B,D&M.
Are you aware of these CD's? Some are available from NEHGS, which is where my Essex and Middlesex Cty ones are from. They include scanned copies of the printed VR published ca 1850 and a searchable index. These two CDs are $100 each. Some smaller counties are cheaper. Check the NEHGS web page.
George Parker
From: "Kenneth Whitney" <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 05:24:27 PST Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Joseph Whitney To: [email protected]
Hello Robert,
Thanks for your reply to my inquiry abouth Joseph of Gorham.
It was a big help. Others who replied seem to share your opinion. Much obliged.
Ken
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From: "Ronald Weaver" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:05:33 -0500 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Fw: NUCMC To: [email protected]
This is a great site. AT NUCMCZ 39.5 GATEWAY TO THE RLINANC File click on the first or second item and enter family you want to search for example Whitney family.
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From: Ronald Weaver <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 6:10 PM Subject: NUCMC
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>http://lcweb.loc.gov/coll/nucmc/nucmc.html
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From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:23:52 EST Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Great LOC research source site To: [email protected]
Great LOC research source site! Go to http://lcweb.loc.gov/coll/nucmc/nucmc.html When there go to and click NUCMC Z39.5 Gateway to the RLIN AMC file RLIN AMC File Easy Search Form
At the search form Type in family name such as "Taylor" Click "AND" Type in "genealogy"
also click "subject" in boxes to the right of the entries. Click search or submit search and be prepared for wonderful results.
There is also a super article in The Family Tree, a free Genealogy Newsletter (paper) that is mainly for those of Scottish descent but has lots more in it. The article is entitled Using Manuscripts in Genealogical Research by Merle M. Baker (a history professor at Abraham Baldwin College). She explains a great deal about this above referenced site. To receive The Family Tree free (although modest donations of $6 minimum are requested) write to them at P O Box 2828 Moultrie GA 31776-2828
Karen
From: "Marion Leska" <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:00:13 -0800 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Parentage Question To: [email protected]
Dear All, I received a letter from Charles Gerrish concerning the parentage of his gg grandmother Rachel (Whitney) Gerrish. He enclosed a copy of her death certificate from Berlin, New Hampshire which shows her father as one William Whitney and mother as Ann Conant. Rachel died 17 May 1915 at 94 yrs, 7 months, 2 days. Mr. Gerrish said that the database lists Rachel's father as Abram, married to Ann Conant. He is searching for a marriage record of Ann Conant to ascertain the proper father's name. Rachel was born 15 Oct 1802. Can anyone help? Marion Whitney Leska
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:24:16 -0500 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Parentage Question To: [email protected]
At 11:00 AM 2/11/99 -0800, Marion Leska wrote: >Dear All, >I received a letter from Charles Gerrish concerning the parentage of his gg >grandmother Rachel (Whitney) Gerrish. He enclosed a copy of her death >certificate from Berlin, New Hampshire which shows her father as one William >Whitney and mother as Ann Conant. Rachel died 17 May 1915 at 94 yrs, 7 >months, 2 days. Mr. Gerrish said that the database lists Rachel's father as >Abram, married to Ann Conant. >He is searching for a marriage record of Ann Conant to ascertain the proper >father's name. Rachel was born 15 Oct 1802. Can anyone help? >Marion Whitney Leska
We have Abraham-6 WHITNEY [Abraham-5, Benjamin-4, John-3, Benjamin-2, John-1], b. 4 Jul 1798, Lisbon, ME, d. 7 Mar 1850, bur. Durham, ME, who m. Ann Conant (no date), b. 1800, Topsham, ME, d. 1888, bur. Durham, ME. See <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/john/john66.html#i158> for him and his ancestry. I know nothing of his children. There is no Abraham WHITNEY in the New Hampshire census indexes for 1820, 1830, 1840, or 1850. Abraham WHITNEY, II, appears in Lisbon in 1820 (p. 228) and 1830 (p. 200), Abra. WHITNEY is there in 1840 (p. 342), and Ann WHITNEY there in 1850 (p. 427).
By the way, surely 15 Oct 1820 was meant as Rachel's birth date, rather than 1802.
Regards,
Robert
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From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:12:01 EST Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Database, web sites, etc. To: [email protected]
To all the Whitney list folks who have participated in collecting gedcom data, setting up websites, etc.
This list has wonderful resources! I am proud of being a Whitney when I tell
other surname lists about this one. This list has lived up to what has often been printed about our ancestors and individuals of integrity well educated and committed to excellence.
The Owen list would like to accumulate the various lines and keep them in
some fashion that would make them available to future Owen researchers. I sent those interested to Robert Ward's site as an example of what can be done. All who have visited it have come back quite impressed.
Would any and all of you that had anything to do with the accumulation and
Internet publishing of research material and the gathering of and discriminating of gedcoms please email me with comments, instructions, technical information and advice. I need to know everything you have time to share. No one with computer expertise has come forward to assist except one individual who wants to be paid.
Is there a way to have a free web site large enough for this purpose? Or do
we need to pay for a web site? If so, what would be the approximate cost?
Those of you with the master gedcom databases - what kind of computer and how
much disk space (any other needs, too?) is needed? And what software are you using to maintain, add to, etc. the database? I like the idea that different people keep different lines. Is this working well?
Allen, I know you have been a part of this list from the beginning. Any
suggestions? Any warnings?
Thank you all for any information you are willing to share with me.
Anyone else want to chime in? Feel free.
Thanks again!
Karen Grubaugh [email protected]
27123 Sea Breeze Way Wesley Chapel FL 33543
813-973-8082
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:12:08 -0400 From: [email protected] (Jan Whitaker) Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Rachael Whitney Gerrish To: [email protected]
Dear Marion, Charles and all,
I found this entry in "Marriage Returns of Cumberland County, Maine
,prior to 1892": Rachel Whitney & William Gerrish Jr. both of Durham m.7 Dec 1843(In Durham). I did not find mention of Ann Conant's marriage in any of my Maine references.
Some personal observations: Durham is near to Lisbon and both are
on the Androscoggin River, as is Berlin NH high up near to the Maine border. I began looking for the Whitneys I knew of who settled in that vicinity. William (Abner, John, Isaiah, Thomas, John) and his wife Hannah Bangs of Standish had a son William m. Anna Hancock 1818(lived and died in Convene section of Sebago), and they in turn had William H. b. 1822, m. Hannah Douglas and lived and died in Rangeley ME(also near to the headwaters of the Androscoggin). None of this seems to help, but I was hoping, as William and Hannah Bangs had few other children, some of whom settled in Upton in the vicinity of the ME/NH border. I don't know that I have helped any, but this intrigued me as I came from the western hills of Maine, and I also have an Elizabeth Conant, ancestor, who was b. ca 1745 in Falmouth, ME(too early). Cheers, Jan
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:45:06 -0500 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Database, web sites, etc. To: [email protected]
At 11:12 AM 2/12/99 EST, Karen Grubaugh wrote: >To all the Whitney list folks who have participated in collecting gedcom data, >setting up websites, etc. > This list has wonderful resources! I am proud of being a Whitney when I tell >other surname lists about this one. This list has lived up to what has often >been printed about our ancestors and individuals of integrity well educated >and committed to excellence. > The Owen list would like to accumulate the various lines and keep them in >some fashion that would make them available to future Owen researchers. I >sent those interested to Robert Ward's site as an example of what can be done. >All who have visited it have come back quite impressed.
Flattery will get you everywhere! ;-) I am gratified by the praise you and your friends have provided.
> Would any and all of you that had anything to do with the accumulation and >Internet publishing of research material and the gathering of and >discriminating of gedcoms please email me with comments, instructions, >technical information and advice. I need to know everything you have time to >share. No one with computer expertise has come forward to assist except one >individual who wants to be paid.
I would be happy to tell you whatever you might want to know about my role in the project.
Not having a volunteer with computer expertise will make any such project MUCH more difficult. We in the WRG are blessed with several.
> Is there a way to have a free web site large enough for this purpose? Or do >we need to pay for a web site? If so, what would be the approximate cost?
You can get free web sites from GeoCities. I don't know how large. You can get a site from rootsweb.com, but have to support them with a yearly donation whose size I am not sure of. Of course this donation supports a *very* worthy cause! (I am a donor, although I don't have a website there.) I pay for my own through Erol's, which is local to the East Coast.
> Those of you with the master gedcom databases - what kind of computer and how >much disk space (any other needs, too?) is needed? And what software are you >using to maintain, add to, etc. the database? I like the idea that different >people keep different lines. Is this working well?
I strongly recommend the use of The Master Genealogist (TMG). For information on this program, see <http://www.whollygenes.com/>. It does not run on Macintoshes, so don't get one of those if you can avoid it. Any 386, 486, or Pentium-based computer (IBM-compatible PC) works. My WHITNEY database consisting of about 8000 individuals occupies less than 5 megabytes of space on my hard drive. At least 16 megabytes of RAM computer memory are recommended. As to operating system, you can use MS-DOS, Windows 3.x, Windows 95 or 98.
The more advanced versions of TMG can produce indexed descendancy reports like the one at <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/henry/index.html> with very little additional work. (I used TMG v3.0 for this one.) The resulting files are quite large, and take a long time to load, however. When I did the descendancy reports at <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/john/index.html>, I tried to break the files up into shorter ones. This was much more work, but results in files which can load much more rapidly.
All the remaining web pages at my website were produced by me using a word processor, and saving the pages in ASCII Text format. This is rather time- intensive, and requires a fair knowledge of HTML. Modern web editors, such as Netscape Page Composer, can produce acceptable pages with very little knowledge of HTML. There are more than a dozen such programs on the market.
> Allen, I know you have been a part of this list from the beginning. Any >suggestions? Any warnings?
Here's a warning: watch out for copyright problems. There is a fair-use doctrine which allows some extraction of copyrighted material, but not wholesale reproduction of large quantities of the same. Even if you are not making a profit from the copying, you may be affecting the author's poential profit. Materials out of copyright are no problem, of course. Get some advice from someone with expertise in the new patent laws.
Here's another: expunge all living individuals from data published on or distributed through your web pages.
> Thank you all for any information you are willing to share with me. > > Anyone else want to chime in? Feel free. > > Thanks again! > Karen Grubaugh [email protected] > 27123 Sea Breeze Way Wesley Chapel FL 33543 > 813-973-8082
Feel free to write back and ask questions about any of the above.
Regards,
Robert
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From: [email protected] Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 02:10:48 EST Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Parentage Question To: [email protected]
In a message dated 99-02-11 14:09:44 EST, you write:
<< I received a letter from Charles Gerrish concerning the parentage of his gg
grandmother Rachel (Whitney) Gerrish. He enclosed a copy of her death certificate from Berlin, New Hampshire which shows her father as one William Whitney and mother as Ann Conant. Rachel died 17 May 1915 at 94 yrs, 7 months, 2 days. Mr. Gerrish said that the database lists Rachel's father as Abram, married to Ann Conant. He is searching for a marriage record of Ann Conant to ascertain the proper father's name. Rachel was born 15 Oct 1802. Can anyone help? >>
Marion-- My info comes from vital records of Lisbon, ME (film #0011330, Family History Library, Salt Lake City, UT), p. 119:
Abraham Whitney and Ann Conant of Topsham -- publ May 14, 1820.
Children: Rachel, b. Oct 14, 1820; Mehitable, b. Apr 1, 1822; William
Woodard, b Mar 14, 1825; Apphia Ann, b. July 20, 1827; Louisa Augusta, b. Feb 9, 1831
Other info provided from card file of town records for Lisbon, ME, states that Abraham III, husband of Ann Conant, died March 7, 1850. Also Abraham married Judith Francis in 1818. I did not pursue Judith, but the card indicates there is more on her on pages 212 and 219.
Other information I picked up is that Abraham III is son of Abraham and Apphia (Coombs) Whitney and grandson of Benjamin and Mercy (Hinckley) Whitney. (I can't cite my source off hand in this instance.)
Hope this helps.
Evelyn Brown
From: "Lorraine Ferguson-Goss" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 16:55:33 -0500
Subject: [WHITNEY-L] VT Whitneys
To: [email protected]
Hi, I have a marriage record for Orlando Whitney m. Asenath Stiles in Ludlow, Windsor, VT on February 16, 1792. Am seeking parents/offspring... anything?
Thanks, Lorraine Ferguson-Goss
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 06:38:38 -0700 From: Li Ann Lee <[email protected]> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] EMAIL INFILTRATION To: [email protected]
I want to appologize to all the Whitney group. About a month ago, I was working in a Microsoft Word97 genealogy file, when all of a sudden a warning came up on my screen. "YOU HAVE BEEN HACKED." Well, I found that when I went to my servers homepage that a "PORNO" (I mean big time) site came up. I called my server and they thought they had it taken care of, but somehow this "hacker" invaded my email. I didn't discover until this last week that my email was going to others with a porno extension. My son was the one that told me. (Only he didn't realize what it was until I told him.) I then called my server again, and it took them a full day to "dig" through my machine to find out where all the infiltration happened. I think it is fixed now.
WARNING: My server said that this happens a lot when people have the ICQ or Chat rooms on line.
I happened to have ICQ at the time. I no longer have that on my machine. Even though the people I was "talking" to didn't invade my machine, somebody got my ICQ number and invaded it.
I hope that you will accept my appology. It was a total embarrasment. I was also very, very angry. I fought having the internet for that very reason, and now it happened. Just be aware that if you get a warning like that, IMMEDIATELY UNPLUG YOUR MACHINE!!!!!!!!!!
Li Ann Lee
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:38:15 -0500 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] VT Whitneys To: [email protected]
At 04:55 PM 2/13/99 -0500, you wrote: >Hi, >I have a marriage record for Orlando Whitney m. Asenath Stiles in Ludlow, >Windsor, VT on February 16, 1792. Am seeking parents/offspring... anything? > >Thanks, >Lorraine Ferguson-Goss
Orlando WHITNEY was b. 30 Nov 1766 in Winchester, NH, son of James and Mary (THAYER) WHITNEY (Winchester VR 2:406). He and Asenath had at least three children:
1. Boilston WHITNEY, b. 29 Nov 1792, Ludlow, VT. 2. Calvin WHITNEY, b. 4 Sep 1759, Ludlow, VT. 3. Asenath WHITNEY, b. 18 Sep 1799, Ludlow, VT.
He and his family appear in the 1800 Census of Ludlow, 00100-2001000. He and his family appear in the 1810 Census of Ludlow, p. 677. Olando WHITNEY appears in the 1820 Census of St. Johnsbury, Caledonia Co., VT, p. 70. Orlando WHITNEY appears in the 1830 Census of St. Johnsbury, p. 339. Orlando WHITNEY appears in the 1840 Census of St. Johnsbury, p. 407. Orlando WHITNEY appears in the 1850 Census of Rutland, Rutland Co., VT, p. 14.
Some or all of the above may apply to your Orlando WHITNEY.
I am not sure of the parentage of his father James WHITNEY, but I think he may be James-5 WHITNEY [James-4, Eleazer-3, Thomas-2, John-1], b. 26 Oct 1743, Waltham, MA. James and Mary THAYER were married 14 Jun 1763, Brookline, MA.
If you discover more, please contact me, as I am quite interested. By the way, who were the parents of Asenath STILES, and when and where was she born?
Regards,
Robert
Robert L. Ward 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/index.html
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:14:06 -0500 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] English Whitney Records To: [email protected]
Dear WRG,
I have just posted a web version of:
Whitney, Henry Austin, _Memoranda Relating to Families of the Name of Whitney in England_, (Boston: 1859).
Thanks to Shawn Whitney <[email protected]>, who obtained a copy, made an extra one, and sent it to me. Visit it at
<http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/sources/memoranda.html>.
This contains a wealth of information gathered mostly by Horatio Gates Somerby, a prominent genealogist of the mid-to-late 1800's, expert in English research. It does not connect John-1 and Elinor (-----) WHITNEY or Henry-1 WHITNEY to any of the English Whitney families.
Please address corrections or modifications to me.
Regards,
Robert
Robert L. Ward 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 <img src="/robertward.gif">
http://www.erols.com/rlward1/index.html
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:09:51 -0600 From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] The Pierce Project Status Report - 20% Complete! To: [email protected]
Since we began The Pierce Project on January 26th, we have made tremendous progress. After just 20 days, we have now COMPLETED 20% of the total project and 38% has been adopted or completed.
I'd like to thank the following people who have completed one or more sets at this time:
Henry M. Whitney: 8 sets completed! Eleanore Dilello: 3 sets Shawn Whitney: 3 sets A. Whitney Brown: 2 sets Bertha Emmett: 2 sets Greg Cote: 1 set Mike Poston: 1 set Marion Leska: 4/5 set
There are many more volunteers who are currently working on sets, but this list just includes those who have submitted sets to me.
Each set consists of 5 pages. Volunteers are free to pick which set they'd like to transcribe. Want to do your great-grandfather's family? Just let me know and I'll look up the set he falls in. Are 5 pages too much for you? Just let me know and I'll break up some of the sets into smaller sizes. Don't have the book? Just let me know and I'll arrange to have scanned images or photocopies sent to you.
I'd like to thank everyone who has volunteered so far and encourage others to pitch in too. Imagine having all 664 pages of Pierce's book available online! This will make it possible to search the entire text for any word or name that you'd like to find. If you'd like to see what we have so far, take a look at http://outburst.com/whitney/pierce/home.html
Thanks everyone!
Tim Doyle http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ [email protected] ftp://ftp.doit.com/pub/tdoyle/
From: "John Baxter" <[email protected]> To: "Tim Doyle" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] The Pierce Project Status Report - 20% Complete! Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:05:34 -0500
I'll volunteer for a set. I do not have the book. What format do you use? I have Word (7.0 and 97) and WordPro. My line is: John,Richard,Richard,Jonathan,Caleb,Joshua,Oliver,Joshua,Celestia Ann John Baxter
From: "John Baxter" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] The Pierce Project Status Report - 20% Complete! Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:05:34 -0500 To: [email protected]
I'll volunteer for a set. I do not have the book. What format do you use? I have Word (7.0 and 97) and WordPro. My line is: John,Richard,Richard,Jonathan,Caleb,Joshua,Oliver,Joshua,Celestia Ann John Baxter
From: "Gavin Gravois" <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:34:47 -0800 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] John Whitney Will, 1698 To: [email protected]
Found the following in "Barbados Records, Wills and Administrations, Volume III, 1701-1725," Compiled and Edited by Joanne McRee Sanders, (c) 1981 by author, Sanders Historical Publications, 13603 Pebblebrook, Houston, TX, 77079, at Page 371:
"Whitney, John
St. Lucy's Parish, 14 Nov 1698, RB 6/43, p. 42
Wf Joane Whitney - Xtrx; my elder son John - a plantation at the expiration of a demise I lately contracted with Bridgett Holmes Widow; dau Sarah Whitney*; son Thomas Whitney* at lawful age - lands joining Maj. John Broome; dau Mary Whitney* at 21; my sons William Whitney*, John Whitney*, and Richard Whitney* when the youngest is 21; my friends Henry Bishop and Leonard Fench - Xtrs in trust.
Wit: Thomas Salmon, Jacob (x) Truslow
Proved 6 Nov 1702"
I think this connects with the Whitneys who were original settlers of
Broome County, New York.
Also, an early plantation owner in Louisiana was a Mr. Daniel Clark, whose daughter Mary married William Whitney of Broome County, New York.
My family's William Whitney married Sarah Compton, the daughter of Joseph Compton and Anna VanDeusen of New York. There was a Joseph Compton who was an original settler of Broome County, New York. The VanDeusen Family originally settled in Albany, New York.
I need help putting all of this together. There must be an additional generation or so in between these Whitneys. Any ideas, anyone?
Patty Whitney Gravois in Louisiana.
From: "Gavin Gravois" <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:44:56 -0800
Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Whitney Marriages in Barbados
To: [email protected]
Found the following Whitney marriages in a book entitled "Barbados Records, Marriages," Volumes I and II, 1643-1800, Compiled and Edited by J oanne McRee Sanders, (c) 1982 by author, Sanders Historical Publications, 13603 Pebblebrook, Houston, TX, 77079. The various entries are listed at different pages in the book, giving the source citations at each entry.
Jan 30, 1703/4 @ St. Michael Parish
Edward Whitney to Mary Smith
In 1782 there was a Thomas Whitney who was listed as "Warden" on several marriage records in St. Peter Parish.
May 25, 1783 @ St. Peter Parish
Thomas Whitney to Elizabeth Beard
December 3, 1791 @ St. Peter Parish
Joseph Whitney to Elizabeth Ann Austin
February 9, 1797 @ St. Peter Parish
Joseph Whitney to Rebecca Ann Cummins
Hope this helps someone with their research. Patty Whitney Gravois.
From: "Gavin Gravois" <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:56:27 -0800 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Barbados Whitneys To: [email protected]
Found the following in a book entitled "Barbados Records, Baptisms, 1637-1800," Compiled by Joanne McRee Sanders, (c) 1984 by authoir, published by Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., Baltimore, MC, LOC Card #84-81420, ISB # 0-8063-1090-1.
William and Frances Whitney baptized two children on July 7, 1781, at St. Joseph Parish: William, born 28 October 1772 Mary Martha, born 14 January 1779
William and Frances Whitney baptized a daughter, Elizabeth Ann, on February ___, 1770, at St. Lucy Parish. Eliz. was born 14 Dec 1774.
Thomas Whitney and his wife, Elizabeth, baptized several children at St. Peter Parish on various dates: Margaret, born 23 Feb 1781, bpt 12 Mar 1781 Elizabeth Ross, born 11 Nov 1782, bpt 12 Jan 1783 Thomas Mayhew, born 18 Mar 1784, bpt 30 May 1784 Hestere, born 24 Jan 1785, bpt 24 Jan 1785 Thomasin, born 18 Nov 1785, bpt 19 Feb 1786 Henry, born 18 Jan 1786, bpt 14 Aug 1786 Samuel, born 23 July 1787, bpt 22 June 1788 Mary Ann, born 27 Dec 1790, bpt 27 Feb 1791
Joseph Whitney and his wife, Elizabeth Ann, baptized a daughter,
Sarah, on 24 April 1794, at St. Peter Parish. Sarah was born 28 March
1794.
Joseph Whitney and his wife, Rebecca, baptized a son, Thomas, on 27 May 1797 (sic). Thomas was born 3 March 1798.
Joseph and Rebecca also baptized a daughter, Rebecca, at St. Peter Parish on 22 September 1799. She was born 21 May 1799.
Hope this helps someone. Patty Whitney Gravois.
From: "Gavin Gravois" <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 16:02:16 -0800 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Richard Whitney will, 1687/8 To: [email protected]
Found the following in the book entitled "Barbados Records, Wills and Administrations, Vol II, 1681-1700," Compiled and Edited by Joanne McRee Sanders, Houston, TX, 77079, at Page 369:
"Whitney, Richard
4 Mar 1687/8 RB 6/42 p. 33
Daus Elizabeth Trustow, Jane Carmandey and Sarah Whitney; son John Whitney; wife Mary Whittney - Xtrx
/s/ Richard (x) Whitney
Witnesses: William Prise, John Carmandy, and Gabriel Keir
Proved 3 May 1688"
Hope this helps someone. Patty Whitney Gravois.
From: [email protected]
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:57:42 EST
Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Florence Whitney
To: [email protected]
Hi,
I'm new to the Whitney line. I'm searching for some information on my grandmother, about whom I know nothing. Her name is:
Florence Whitney
She was probably born around 1870-1880 and married Levi H. Webb around 1895. They had five children: Les, Ruth, George, Marvin and Lloyd. They spent most of the 1900's in Nebraska, ending up in Randolph until their deaths in the 1960s (?).
Any help woud be appreciated, Glenn
Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne Muse" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Barbados Whitneys Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 06:57:47 -0500 To: [email protected]
What great information Patty!
Robert Ward - shouldn't this information go on the web site with other vitals?
- -) Jeanne Muse
Genealogy - Games - Scuba-Diving http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwmuse [email protected]
Original Message-----
From: Gavin Gravois <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 5:02 PM Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Barbados Whitneys
>Found the following in a book entitled "Barbados Records, Baptisms,
>1637-1800," Compiled by Joanne McRee Sanders, (c) 1984 by authoir,
>published by Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., Baltimore, MC, LOC
>Card #84-81420, ISB # 0-8063-1090-1.
>
>William and Frances Whitney baptized two children on July 7, 1781, at
>St. Joseph Parish:
>William, born 28 October 1772
>Mary Martha, born 14 January 1779
>
>William and Frances Whitney baptized a daughter, Elizabeth Ann, on
>February ___, 1770, at St. Lucy Parish. Eliz. was born 14 Dec 1774.
>
>Thomas Whitney and his wife, Elizabeth, baptized several children at
>St. Peter Parish on various dates:
>Margaret, born 23 Feb 1781, bpt 12 Mar 1781
>Elizabeth Ross, born 11 Nov 1782, bpt 12 Jan 1783
>Thomas Mayhew, born 18 Mar 1784, bpt 30 May 1784
>Hestere, born 24 Jan 1785, bpt 24 Jan 1785
>Thomasin, born 18 Nov 1785, bpt 19 Feb 1786
>Henry, born 18 Jan 1786, bpt 14 Aug 1786
>Samuel, born 23 July 1787, bpt 22 June 1788
>Mary Ann, born 27 Dec 1790, bpt 27 Feb 1791
>
>
>Joseph Whitney and his wife, Elizabeth Ann, baptized a daughter,
>Sarah, on 24 April 1794, at St. Peter Parish. Sarah was born 28 March
>1794.
>
>Joseph Whitney and his wife, Rebecca, baptized a son, Thomas, on 27
>May 1797 (sic). Thomas was born 3 March 1798.
>
>Joseph and Rebecca also baptized a daughter, Rebecca, at St. Peter
>Parish on 22 September 1799. She was born 21 May 1799.
>
>Hope this helps someone. Patty Whitney Gravois.
>
>
From: "Denis Adams" <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 09:02:57 -0500 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] History of Conway, Mass. To: [email protected]
Dear List,
I just got home from visiting my folks in Florida and recieved a lot of
information from my father. Included is the book, History of Conway, (Ma). It is not indexed but has a genealogy section in the back. I have transcribed the preface as well, it is intersting in regards to Pierce. Enjoy!
“History of Conway (Massachusetts) 1767-1917 By The people of Conway Rev. Charles Stanley Pease, A.M. Editor Springfield Printing and Binding Company Springfield, Massachusetts 1917 Preface In the summer of 1900 Mr. Frederick Pierce of Chicago, author of the Field and other genealogies, visited Conway and began the preparation of a history of the town. He secured a mass of material which he proposed to publish in two volumes. Lack of financial support delayed the publication until the author’s death in 1903. His estate proceed to be insolvent and after unsuccessful attempts to sell the manuscript it was deposited with the town of Conway by permission of the Judge of Probate.
At the annual town meeting in 1914 a committee consisting of Rev. E. L.
Chute, H. W. Delabarre, C. F. Elmer, and C. L. Parsons was appointed to arrange for a celebration of the 150th anniversary of Conway in 1917. Mr. Billings died in 1915 and Rev. Charles S. Pease was elected to fill the vacancy. In 1916 Mr. Chute removed from town and Mr. Alvin C. Boice succeeded him on the committee. This committee was authorized by the town to publish a brief history of Conway based upon the Pierce manuscript and Rev. Charles S. Pease was appointed editor for that purpose.
In the task of preparing a history for publication the editor has been
assisted by those whose names appear at the head of the various chapters. Much of the material in the Pierce manuscript proved to be of doubtful historical value and all of it was in need of careful revision. Each author has accordingly made independent researches and has written his chapter or section in his own way. The Genealogy has been carefully revised and to a large extent rearranged. The chapter on the first century was taken from the history of Conway’s centennial and the chapter on the Field Library is a memorial which Dr. Rice prepared by request of the Field family. The chapter on useful men and women was written expressly for the Pierce history.
The illustrations have been contributed by different people, we are
especially indebted to the Misses Frances and Mary Allen of old Deerfield for the use of a series of photographs taken about 1890, and to Miss. Florence Howland of Conway for pictures of more recent date.
The committee has not attempted to produce a complete history of Conway.
This would be impossible. The aim has been rather to prepare a readable and reasonably comprehensive account of the past one hundred and fifty years. The work has been a labor of love by Conway people, who without literary experience and with little time at their disposal for such employment have simply tried to make a permanent record of the more important facts in the history of the town. The Editor. Conway, Mass., March 7, 1917.
p. 342
Whitney. John, the first of the name in America, was baptized in England
July 20, 1592. Come to this country April, 1635, with his wife, Eleanor, and his sons, John, Richard, Nathaniel, Thomas, and Jonathan.
Capt. Jonathan Whitney (Jonathan, Jonathan, Benjamin, John), b. Milford,
July 26, 1737, m. Nov. 7, 1760, Esther Parkhurst. He was one of the first settlers in Conway but removed to Milo, N. Y., in 1791, where he d. Aug. 22, 1792, and she d. Dec. 6, 1812. Children Nathan, b. Oct. 18, 1761, m. Olive Whitney and Thankful Caldwell. Abagail, b. Mar. 12, 1764, m. Apr. 2,1787, Simeon Amsden. Joel, b. Nov. 13, 1766, m. Sybil Whitmore. Esther. B. Dec. 16, 1769, m. Aug. 31, 1789, Solomon Gates. Experience, b. June 6, 1772, m. June 25, 1789, Immor Crittenden. Jonas, b. May 12, 1775, m. Catherine Parker. Ami, b. Jan. 18, 1781, m. Anna Amsden. Parkhurst, b. Sept. 15, 1784, m. Celinda Cowing. Asa, b. Oct. 1, 1786, Lucretia Murphy. As far as I can learn the sons of Mr. Whitney went with him to Milo, N. y., the daughters remaining in Conway.”
Denis Adams 2665 Favor Rd. Apt 2-E5 Marietta, GA. 30060 www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/6962 [email protected]
From: "Theola Walden Baker" <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 08:32:03 -0800 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] New Orleans Whitneys To: [email protected]
Am searching for information on the New Orleans Whitneys of the turn of the century. They were a well-connected family, having owned a plantation and owning the Whitney Central National Bank and Trust. The particular Whitney I am searching for is Nelson Whitney. He had a home (possibly in Metairie) designed by a nationally known architect. He was my husband's natural grandfather. I would like to know who Nelson's parents were and what their connection is to other Whitneys. Have been told they were related to the NY and Boston Whitneys. Please help if you can, even some kind of lead to go on.
Theola Walden Baker [email protected]
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:41:36 -0500 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Barbados Whitneys To: [email protected]
At 06:57 AM 2/17/99 -0500, Jeanne Muse wrote: >What great information Patty! > >Robert Ward - shouldn't this information go on the web site with other >vitals?
Agreed! If I get time this year, I'll be sure to do that! Or if we can get a volunteer to format it in HTML, I'd be happy to post it.
Regards,
Robert
Robert L. Ward 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/index.html
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From: [email protected] (millie colley) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:45:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: [WHITNEY-L] whitney,reunion To: [email protected]
I,BELIEVE, MY FATHER,WAS RELATED TO JOSEPH LEE AND PHOBE (MEAD) WHITNEY. MY,DAD WAS LESTER F. WHITNEY ,FROM SPRINGVILLE,N.Y. HIS DAD, WAS RALPH N. WHITNEY FROM JAMESTOWN N.Y. HIS DAD WAS FROM YORKSHIRE N.Y. MILLIE (WHITNEY) COLLEY
From: "gjj" <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:39:14 -0600 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Oliver Whitney Search To: [email protected]
I'm looking for information on a Oliver Whitney that was married to Malinda Marson in Hancock County Mississippi on 03/29/1866. The Whitney family was in the shipping business and I understand that he went back to the Northeast to handle the family business some time between 1867 and 1870. He must have been in his early twenties and was working in conjunction with the lumber business. There was a 3 year old daughter Olive and the 22 year old wife Melinda listed in the 1870 Hancock County Census, but Oliver had already left for the Northeast when the census was taken that year. Any information would be appreciated.
Gus Janssen
Sender: [email protected]
From: "Jeanne Muse" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] whitney,reunion Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 08:42:52 -0500 To: [email protected]
Dear Millie: I believe our Henry Whitney database may contain the information you seek. If these are your families, we'd be pleased to add your line to the Henry database.
Frank Silas Whitney born 12 Dec 1857, Yorkshire, NY died (unknown)
Married Mary (--?--). Frank Silas Whitney and Mary had at least 3 children: Ralph Whitney Bell Whitney Mildred Whitney
Source: S. Whitney Phoenix "Whitneys of Connecticut", Vol. 2, Ind.# 12405, "was living in West Yorkshire in May 1875." Spouse and children provided to us by Martie Wilson (I believe a subscriber to our list) email: [email protected]
Frank Silas Whitney was the son of Silas Jeremiah Whitney and Issabinda Bootes. His line is thus: Frank Silas-8, Silas Jeremiah-7, Joseph-6, Jeremiah-5, Jeremiah-4, Nathan-3, John-2, Henry-1
Our Henry database (currently CTWHIT3) is available for download on my web page: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwmuse/files.htm
The children of Frank Silas Whitney are new editions and will appear in CTWHIT4, which we are compiling now. To add more data to it, contact me or Carolyn Tilton [email protected] .
- -) Jeanne Muse
Genealogy - Games - Scuba-Diving http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwmuse [email protected]
P.S. Millie - it is considered improper e-mail etiquette to use all capital letters...it looks like you are shouting. J
Original Message-----
From: millie colley <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 8:47 PM Subject: [WHITNEY-L] whitney,reunion
I,BELIEVE, MY FATHER,WAS RELATED TO
JOSEPH LEE AND PHOBE (MEAD) WHITNEY.
MY,DAD WAS LESTER F. WHITNEY ,FROM SPRINGVILLE,N.Y. HIS DAD, WAS
RALPH
N. WHITNEY FROM JAMESTOWN N.Y.
HIS DAD WAS FROM YORKSHIRE N.Y.
MILLIE (WHITNEY) COLLEY
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:18:00 -0600 From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Pierce Project Status To: [email protected]
The Pierce Project is continuing to make progress. After just 24 days of work, we are now 23% Complete, 42% Adopted, and have 47 Volunteers.
For those of you who have volunteered and have not yet heard back from me, don't worry. I'll get to you. :) I have fallen behind in scanning but have asked other volunteers who have Pierce and a scanner or access to a photocopier for assistance and we should have scans and photocopies soon. As soon as I get them I'll send them to you with instructions.
The current status of the project, as well as the completed 23% of the transcription can be found at the Pierce Project website:
http://outburst.com/whitney/pierce/
Thanks again to everyone who has volunteered!
Tim Doyle http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ [email protected] ftp://ftp.doit.com/pub/tdoyle/
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 10:53:15 -0500 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] 1855 and 1865 State Censuses, MA To: [email protected]
Dear WRG:
I have uploaded transcripts of the WHITNEY entries from the 1855 and 1865 state censuses of Massachusetts for the towns of Fairhaven ('55 only), Halifax, Hanson (no WHITNEYs), Hull, Natick, Sherborn, Shirley, and Watertown. See them at these URLs:
<http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/census/1855/ma.html> <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/census/1865/ma.html>
The series of books from which these were copied were found in the Library of Congress, and only a small fraction of them have been examined so far.
Can anyone identify the individuals named in terms of their parentage or lineage?
Enjoy!
Regards,
Robert
Robert L. Ward 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/index.html
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 09:51:32 -0800 From: Shawn Whitney <[email protected]> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Early CT records To: [email protected]
I just received my copy of the current NEHGS quarterly register and there is an entry for "Some Fairfield County, Connecticut Anglican Church Records". This transcription is for the towns of Norwalk, Ridgfield, Standford and Greenwich, CT's Church of England Register Book which were located in a vault at the Connecticut State Library. There are several references to a family of Joseph and Mary Whitney and a son James as follows: Hopefully someone can use this information.
Shawn
For the town of Norwalk:
Communicants: First admitted Joseph Whitney July 4, 1742 Mary Whitney July 4, 1742
Baptisms:
Ester of Jonathan & Ann Camp, March 25, 1744, sponsors: Ralp (sic) Isaacs, Phebe Marven, Mary Whitny
Sarah of Josiah & Mehitabel Plat, Nov 4, 1744, sponsors: Edmond Nash, Mary Witne & Naomi Jarvis
James of Joseph & Mary Whitney, Dec 8, 1745, sponsors: Nehemiah Rogers, Eliza Rogers & Miles Riggs
Mary of Lindle & Mary Fitch, Dec 8, 1745, sponsors: Joseph Whitney, Joanna Brown & Sarah Brown
For the town of Stamford:
Elizabeth of Miles Rigs, Jan. 10, 1742/43, sponsors: Nathaniel Finch, Mary Whitney
Last page of the book: "A Catalogue of ye Professors of ye Church of England in NORWALK who bear And Pay Rates in sd Town those marked thus T were shuch [?] June ye 1st 1742."
T Whitne Joseph
Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne Muse" <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:45:36 -0500 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Martha Beach/Bench - wife of Joseph Whitney To: [email protected]
Hello everyone:
Although her name is spelled BeNch by Pierce, does everyone agree that the wife of Joseph-3 Whitney is Martha BeAch, daughter of Richard and Mary Beach??
Joseph-3 Whitney is the son of John Whitney and Ruth Reynolds.
- -) Jeanne
From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:11:40 EST Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Messages To: [email protected]
Does anyone know what is happening????? I have not recieved any rootsweb mailings at all and am on several lists. Bev Hanner
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 07:20:28 -0800 From: Shawn Whitney <[email protected]> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Test To: [email protected]
This is a test of the listserver. Is it posting?
From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 11:24:22 EST Subject: [WHITNEY-L] R :Posting To: [email protected]
I am receiving all messages.
Many thanks
Jean Mendenhall (Majemen)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:35:13 -0500 From: "Debbie J. Stlelmach" <[email protected]> Sender: "Debbie J. Stlelmach" <[email protected]> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Extracts Chautauqua Co, NY To: [email protected]
Chautauqua County Alms House and Asylum Book 1 1833-1867, Virginia W. Barden, 1992 Chautauqua County Genealogical Society Fredonia, NY
Records of 1833 - 1850 Page 61
Whitney, Phebe 2 Feb 1833 age 36 lunatic fr Mina b. Onondaga Co. clothed: poor suit, plaid cloak, blanket; 4 Feb 1833 del by Overseers of Poor for Phebe 1 new woolen frock, 1 chemise, 2 yds flannel 9 Feb 1833 del by Mina O/P for Phebe 14 yds shirting 24 May 1833 run away about 8 o'clock in evening 26 June born to her a fem child
Note: Mina is a township in Chautauqua Co. - - - - Chautauqua Poor Records Page 175
Whitney, Aaron age 45, sent from town of Villenova, broken leg, stayed 24 w, dated 9 Jan 1858
Melinda (wf) age 40 (all NY natives)
Eunice (dau) age 17
William F (son) age 15
other 3 discharged 1 Apr 1858
Whitney, Melinda ret with family, 6 Apr 1858
Eunice discharged 28 June 1858 Wm P, with Melinda discharged 15 Jul 1858
Whitney, John age 67 from Fredonia, stated 2w 6d, date 26 Aug 1857 Whitney, Lydia age 45 from Ellicott, native of NY, want of capacity, 8 Nov 1854
- - - - Chautauqua County Alms House and Asylum Book 2 1867-1918, Lois Barris, 1992 Chautauqua County Genealogical Society Fredonia, NY
Page 50
Whitney, Clarissa age 84 admitted Town of Hanover, 27 Oct 1875, 8 mos at Poor House, taken to Asylum, board to be pd, died. Date of death 02 Mar 1880
Page 110
Whitney, Morris age 33 admitted 11/25/1886 Town of French Creek, discharged 03/20/1888 - - - - - Indentured Children page 141
Peterson, Belle age 1y8m to Zebulon Whitney of Town of Mina, until age 21
07/01/1884
- - - - Notes on Personal History of Some Residents, 1867-1918
Fuller, John admitted Oct 5, 1911, age 75 single, born Granville, Washington Co, NY, occ farmer; 1 brother;accident, broken hip, parents: Benjamin & Jane Whitney Fuller
- - - - -
Debbie Stelmach Kailua, HI (Seeking par of Charles Whitney, b 1823 MA lived Putnam Co, Ohio in 1850's, Langford, Erie Co, NY from 1864-1902)
From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 00:58:12 EST Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Ancestry source that might help someone. To: [email protected]
Dear WRG:
Daily, I get a newsletter from Ancestry, Inc. (Ancestry Daily News - From the publisher of "The Source" and Ancestry Magazine >http://www.ancestry.com<)
Every day they have two new "databases" that they make freely accessible to anyone without fee, and they remain for a week or a little more. Tonight it mentioned this one, which I thought might help someone on this list with a lost ancestor born in the middle of the 1800's.
- Databases of the Day
Cheshire, Massachusetts, Census Records, 1900-1920
I hope this will be of some value to someone.
Allan E. Green
From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 14:16:55 EST Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Russell Whitney To: [email protected]
Am still searching for information on Russell Whitney, b. 2/02/1807, d. 5/07/1881 Essex co. NY, married to Virginia Warden, b. 2/07/1807, d, 5/07/1881
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 14:21:13 -0700 From: Rinehart <[email protected]> Organization: Rinehart & Sons Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Mary Ann Whitney of Illinois To: [email protected]
I am looking for information about Mary Ann Whitney,b.April 9,1844 in Campton, Illinois and died in IL., WI., or MI.Family records are very sketchy and names are given only as nicknames. Her father's first name may have been Joe and her mother was Mariah Blood, daughter of Upham Blood. Mary Ann had two brother's whose names were Daniel and John and they lived in Wasco, Illinois( a town that now seems to have disappeared.).John was in the Civil War but I can't find the records.I have no idea where her parents were from. If anyone can find a connection with their family I will appreciate any leads or information.
Regards,
Virginia Rinehart
From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 17:57:19 EST Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Russell Whitney To: [email protected]
In a message dated 2/25/99 11:22:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
<< Am still searching for information on Russell Whitney, b. 2/02/1807, d.
5/07/1881 Essex co. NY, married to Virginia Warden, b. 2/07/1807, d, 5/07/1881 >>
Do you know what Russell's parent's names were? Beth
From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 18:45:34 EST Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Carl Whitney To: [email protected]
Searching for any information on Carl Whitney and Minnie Hunt Whitney. Carl owned a lumber company in Vassalboro, Maine.
Any help appreciated!
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 19:32:29 -0500 From: [email protected] (by way of "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif">) Subject: [WHITNEY-L] John Bayles To: [email protected]
Dear WRG:
Can anyone identify the below WHITNEY?
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Wayne posted John Bayles will and does anyone know anything further on this family. I found son Thomas in "Early Settlers of King Co."
What I have is: John BAYLES b. ca 1617 England d. 1682 Jamaica, NY m. Rebecca Vincent WHITNEY b. ca 1623 Enland d. aft 1682
children: Rebecca b. ca 1643 Jamaica, NN d. ca 1671
m. Nicholas STILWELL
Elizabeth m. 17 Mar 1690 James HUBBARD
Lisa
Abstracts of Wills Vol I 1665-1707, page 122:
Page 451.--JOHN BAYLES, Sr., Jamaica, October 18, 1682. Makes wife Rebecca executor. Leaves to son John 5s. Leaves to son Elias the meadow at furthest east neck, with the orchard, and 3 acres at the lower end of Great meadow. To sons Thomas and Jonathan all the rest of houses, lands and meadows. To daughter Elizabeth Hubbard œ10. Legacies to daughter Mary Hewlett, Damoris Lyns, Abigail Smith, Ruth and Rebecca. Leaves to Elias, son of Nicholas Stilwell and my daughter Rebecca, œ10. Leaves to his wife Rebecca household goods. Mentions grand child, John Bayles. Not witnessed. Proved December 13, 1682.
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MILITARY RECORDS-and how to use them: http://www.avana.net/~lhaasdav/military.html Bureau of Land Management-SOME STATES-busy, keep trying... http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/
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From: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:54:50 EST
Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Mary Ann Whitney of Illinois
To: [email protected]
Dear Virginia:
The US Geological Survey doesn't recognize the existence of Campton, but its website does show Wasco as being in Kane County, just west and a little south and west of Elgin, IL, north and a little west of Aurora and about 5 miles straight west of St. Charles, IL. A town called Compton is shown in (currently) Lee County, about 25 miles straight southwest of DeKalb, and maybe 40 - 45 miles southwest of Wasco.
The Illinois 1850 Census Index for Whitneys shows three households in Kane County, all in a town called Compton. They are John Whitney, Mariah Whitney and Mark Whitney. You might want to try and find a source for the Census Microfilm for Kane County in 1850 and look at all three households. Of course, your best bet is the one headed by Mariah - perhaps her husband had only recently died.
I hope this helps.
Allan E. Green
From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:59:34 EST Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Russell Whitney To: [email protected]
In a message dated 02/25/1999 6:15:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
<< << Am still searching for information on Russell Whitney, b. 2/02/1807, d.
5/07/1881 Essex co. NY, married to Virginia Warden, b. 2/07/1807, d, 5/07/1881 >> Do you know what Russell's parent's names were? Beth >>
Also, is there any indication why they both died on the same day? If they perished in a newsworthy event like a disaster or fire, perhaps there might be information about the occurance in a nearby newspaper.
Allan E. Green
From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:02:05 EST Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Carl Whitney To: [email protected]
In a message dated 02/25/1999 6:57:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
<< Searching for any information on Carl Whitney and Minnie Hunt Whitney.
Carl
owned a lumber company in Vassalboro, Maine.
Any help appreciated! >>
Can you give us any help at all about the time frame? Early 20th? Late 19th? Middle 1800's? Where to look depends on a combination of data that is known leading to possible places to search.
Allan
From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:07:00 EST Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Mapping - mountains, jollers, cemeteries, creeks and wide spots To: [email protected]
Fellow listers, I saw this on another surname list. I have not been there so cannot guarantee the site, but felt other genealogy enthusiasts would be interested.
See http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/
"We use it at the library to verify place names to catalog books. Yesterday a coworker discovered they have interactive maps attached to the search engine now. It will locate mountains, hollers, cemeteries, creeks and wide spots. I looked up the callings on a family deed: where Mile Creek joins Keowee River, SC -- it is now under Lake Jocasee unfortunately -- but I found a cemetery nearby I didn't know about!" from Owen List.
Hope you enjoy this!
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 17:40:42 -0600 From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Pierce Transcription Project Status Update, Move To: [email protected]
After exactly one month, our ambitious Pierce Project is 26% complete and 46% adopted. I have several people currently scanning and photocopying pages for other volunteers to transcribe. If anything, we have more volunteers than I can currently handle (though don't let that prevent you from volunteering!) My backlog of getting scans or photocopies to volunteers should clear up now that others are helping in the scanning process.
The location of the Pierce Project webpage has changed. It is now located at:
http://www.gentree.com/whitney/pierce
NEW! I have placed scanned images of 74 pages of Pierce's book online at this site. I figured that as long as we are scanning and sending the pages to volunteers, we might as well make them available to ourselves in case anyone has a question about any of the transcriptions.
My Whitney homepage, with all of it's related Whitney files, is now located at:
http://www.gentree.com/whitney
If you attempt to go to the older pages at outburst.com, you will be redirected to the new site. I have kept the various census indexes, etc. on the outburst.com server until links on the WRG's webpage can be updated.
Many thanks to everyone who has volunteered! If you haven't heard from me, hang in there. I'll get to you as soon as I can.
Tim Doyle
Tim Doyle http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ [email protected] ftp://ftp.doit.com/pub/tdoyle/
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 17:55:30 -0600 From: pj Thompson <[email protected]> Organization: MAMA THOMPSON'S WEAKLEY COUNTY, TN FRONT PORCH Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Alamaba Whitneys To: [email protected]
Hi, if anyone has any WHITNEYs in Alabama please contact me........thanks pj
-- Paula (pj) Howard Thompson [email protected] Listowner of Weakley County, Tennessee Native of Weakley County, Tennessee Home Page http://www.apex.net/users/pj/mama.htm (Under Construction)
Please take a look at this url about half way down look for "The Way They Lived......pj Thompson Shares" Hope you enjoy!! http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnstewar/index.htm
My Surnames of Weakley County, Tennessee McCLAIN JONES McCLURE MORRISON STARK/STARKS TIBBS JOHNSON KEMP HART HOWARD HUNGERFORD ALDERDICE WILLIAMS
"May we all dig ours Roots to form the Branches of our Tree"
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 19:52:24 -0500
To: Tim Doyle <[email protected]>, [email protected]
From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif">
Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Pierce Transcription Project Status Update,
Move
At 05:40 PM 2/26/99 -0600, Tim Doyle wrote: >My Whitney homepage, with all of it's related Whitney files, is now located >at: > > http://www.gentree.com/whitney > >If you attempt to go to the older pages at outburst.com, you will be >redirected >to the new site. I have kept the various census indexes, etc. on the >outburst.com server until links on the WRG's webpage can be updated.
I believe I have updated all the links on my WHITNEY website to reflect this change. Thanks for keeping me advised of the situation!
Regards,
Robert
Robert L. Ward 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/index.html
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 19:52:24 -0500 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Pierce Transcription Project Status Update,
Move
At 05:40 PM 2/26/99 -0600, Tim Doyle wrote: >My Whitney homepage, with all of it's related Whitney files, is now located >at: > > http://www.gentree.com/whitney > >If you attempt to go to the older pages at outburst.com, you will be >redirected >to the new site. I have kept the various census indexes, etc. on the >outburst.com server until links on the WRG's webpage can be updated.
I believe I have updated all the links on my WHITNEY website to reflect this change. Thanks for keeping me advised of the situation!
Regards,
Robert
Robert L. Ward 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/index.html
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 06:23:34 +0000 From: Larry Knigga <[email protected]> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Scanning the Phoenix book... To: [email protected]
Has anyone with a scanner and OCR capability tried scanning the Phoenix book? I'm intrigued by whether it could be scanned and somehow posted on the web. Much of the print looks pretty good...
Larry
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 09:58:02 -0500 From: Marcia <[email protected]>
Subject: [WHITNEY-L] DAR library catalog entries for Whitney To: [email protected]
Has anyone posted this yet?
DAR Library Catalog
Whitney [ME:Pers Name]
Whitney, Alethea Helen [ME:Pers Name]
Whitney, Carrie Westlake [ME:Pers Name]
Whitney, Charles C. [ME:Pers Name: Returns 3 items]
Whitney, Charles Frederick [ME:Pers Name]
Whitney, Daniel Darling. [ME:Pers Name]
Whitney, Darling [ME:Pers Name]
Whitney, David C. [ME:Pers Name: Returns 3 items]
Whitney, E. Lee. [ME:Pers Name]
Whitney, Edson L. [ME:Pers Name]
Whitney, Ellen M. [ME:Pers Name]
WHITNEY FAMILY [Subj:Topical: Returns 23 items]
WHITNEY FAMILY-ILLINOIS [Subj:Topical]
WHITNEY FAMILY-PERIODICALS [Subj:Topical]
Whitney father, Whitney heiress / W. A. Swanberg. [Title]
Whitney, Florence M. [ME:Pers Name]
Whitney, Fred F. [ME:Pers Name]
Whitney, Frederic Augustus [ME:Pers Name: Returns 3 items]
Whitney genealogy : the descendants of John Whitney who came from
Whitney -on-the-Wye, England to
Pepperell, Massachusetts to Tinbridge, Vermont : twelve generations
1553-1977 / by Fred F. Whitney. [Title]
Whitney George [ME:Pers Name]
Whitney, Janet [ME:Pers Name]
WHITNEY, JOHN (1589-1659)-DESCENDANTS [Subj:Topical]
WHITNEY, JOHN (1589-1673)-ANCESTORS AND DESCENDANTS [Subj:Topical]
WHITNEY, JOHN DESCENDANTS. [Subj:Topical]
Whitney, Marci [ME:Pers Name]
Whitney, Mary [ME:Pers Name]
Whitney, Orson F. [ME:Pers Name: Returns 4 items]
Whitney, Robin Vaughn [ME:Pers Name]
Whitney : the descendants of John Whitney, who came from London,
England to Watertown, Massachusetts in
1635 / by Frederick Clifton Pierce. [Title]
Whitney, Virginia K. [ME:Pers Name]
Whitney, Virginia Koogler. [ME:Pers Name]
Whitney whistler [Title]
Whitney, William L. [ME:Pers Name]
WHITNEY'S POINT, NEW YORK HISTORY. [Subj:Topical: Returns 2 items]
Whitney's Point, old and new : 1791-1898 / [by Mrs. G. R. Seymour]
[Title]
Whitney's Point, old and new : 1791-1898 / [by Mrs. G. R. Seymour]
[Title]
SOME OF THE ABOVE ITEMS HAVE MORE ITEMS LISTED UNDER THEM> Go to http://dar.library.net/cgi-win/engine.exe/search
Copyright 1998 The Library Corporation
Provided By: TLC, Solutions that Deliver!
Last Update: February 3, 1999
Copyright 1998 The Library Corporation
Provided By: TLC, Solutions that Deliver!
Last Update: February 3, 1999
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:44:20 -0800
From: fwhitney <[email protected]>
Organization: Organized? That's a laugh!
Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Scanning the Phoenix book...
References: <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Larry Knigga wrote: > > Has anyone with a scanner and OCR capability tried scanning the Phoenix > book? I'm intrigued by whether it could be scanned and somehow posted on > the web. Much of the print looks pretty good... > > Larry Don't know what the Phoenix book is, but why would it have to be scanned OCR? Couldn't it be just put up as a graphic image? Seems like that would be easy and avoid typos.
frances whose little knowledge is a dangerous thing oxoxxo
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:40:04 -0600 From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Scanning the Phoenix book... To: [email protected]
Larry Knigga wrote:
> Has anyone with a scanner and OCR capability tried scanning the Phoenix > book? I'm intrigued by whether it could be scanned and somehow posted on > the web. Much of the print looks pretty good...
Frances Whitney <[email protected]> responded:
> Larry Don't know what the Phoenix book is, but why would it have to be >scanned OCR? Couldn't it be just put up as a graphic image? Seems like >that would be easy and avoid typos.
Larry is basically suggesting a project similar to the Pierce Project (see http://www.gentree.com/whitney/pierce/ ). Since the Phoenix book on the descendants of Henry Whitney is a bit clearer than the Pierce book on the descendants of John Whitney, it is possible that OCR might produce better results. OCR is needed because you can't search scanned images - you need a transcription for that.
P.S. Someone else is going to have to undertake this project, but I would suggest waiting until after the Pierce Project is complete so as not to fight for volunteers. If / when we undertake this project, I would be happy to provide web space for it.
Tim Doyle http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ [email protected] ftp://ftp.doit.com/pub/tdoyle/
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:23:14 -0800 From: fwhitney <[email protected]> Organization: Organized? That's a laugh! To: Tim Doyle <[email protected]> CC: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Scanning the Phoenix book... References: <[email protected]>
Tim Doyle wrote: > > Larry Knigga wrote: > > > Has anyone with a scanner and OCR capability tried scanning the Phoenix > > book? I'm intrigued by whether it could be scanned and somehow posted on > > the web. Much of the print looks pretty good... > > Frances Whitney <[email protected]> responded: > > > Larry Don't know what the Phoenix book is, but why would it have to be > >scanned OCR? Couldn't it be just put up as a graphic image? Seems like > >that would be easy and avoid typos. > > Larry is basically suggesting a project similar to the Pierce Project > (see http://www.gentree.com/whitney/pierce/ ). Since the Phoenix book > on the descendants of Henry Whitney is a bit clearer than the Pierce > book on the descendants of John Whitney, it is possible that OCR might > produce better results. OCR is needed because you can't search scanned > images - you need a transcription for that. > > P.S. Someone else is going to have to undertake this project, but I > would suggest waiting until after the Pierce Project is complete so as > not to fight for volunteers. If / when we undertake this project, I would > be happy to provide web space for it.
Well, by then I should have my scanner back up.... I hope.
frances xoxoxo
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:23:14 -0800 From: fwhitney <[email protected]>
Organization: Organized? That's a laugh! Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Scanning the Phoenix book... References: <[email protected]> To: [email protected]
Tim Doyle wrote: > > Larry Knigga wrote: > > > Has anyone with a scanner and OCR capability tried scanning the Phoenix > > book? I'm intrigued by whether it could be scanned and somehow posted on > > the web. Much of the print looks pretty good... > > Frances Whitney <[email protected]> responded: > > > Larry Don't know what the Phoenix book is, but why would it have to be > >scanned OCR? Couldn't it be just put up as a graphic image? Seems like > >that would be easy and avoid typos. > > Larry is basically suggesting a project similar to the Pierce Project > (see http://www.gentree.com/whitney/pierce/ ). Since the Phoenix book > on the descendants of Henry Whitney is a bit clearer than the Pierce > book on the descendants of John Whitney, it is possible that OCR might > produce better results. OCR is needed because you can't search scanned > images - you need a transcription for that. > > P.S. Someone else is going to have to undertake this project, but I > would suggest waiting until after the Pierce Project is complete so as > not to fight for volunteers. If / when we undertake this project, I would > be happy to provide web space for it.
Well, by then I should have my scanner back up.... I hope.
frances xoxoxo
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 19:27:50 -0500 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] DAR library catalog entries for Whitney To: [email protected]
Marcia,
At 09:58 AM 2/27/99 -0500, you wrote: >Has anyone posted this yet? > >DAR Library Catalog > > > Whitney [ME:Pers Name] > Whitney, Alethea Helen [ME:Pers Name] > Whitney, Carrie Westlake [ME:Pers Name] [SNIP] > Whitney, William L. [ME:Pers Name] > WHITNEY'S POINT, NEW YORK HISTORY. [Subj:Topical: Returns 2 items] > Whitney's Point, old and new : 1791-1898 / [by Mrs. G. R. Seymour] >[Title] > Whitney's Point, old and new : 1791-1898 / [by Mrs. G. R. Seymour] >[Title] > >SOME OF THE ABOVE ITEMS HAVE MORE ITEMS LISTED UNDER THEM> >Go to http://dar.library.net/cgi-win/engine.exe/search
I have posted the appropriate items from this online catalog to my page <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/bibliography.html> of WHITNEY family books and articles.
Regards,
Robert
Robert L. Ward 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/index.html
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 20:27:23 -0500 From: Marcia <[email protected]> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Some Whitney data To: [email protected]
New York Marriages and Deaths Search
http://users.itsnet.com/~pauld/newyork/
Whitney, Asa, watch-maker, died Tues. last, aged 36. (Dec. 12,1812)
Whitney, Mrs. Catherine, relict of the late Asa Whitney, died in her
37th year. (Jan. 7, 1815)
Whitney, Capt. Ebenezer, died at New Canaan, Conn., on Sun., the 3d
inst., in his 66th year. (Apr. 9, 1808)
Whitney, Harriet, see Rufus Allen, Jr.
Whitney, Henry, mar. on Sat. last, to Miss Mary Suydam, dau. of H.
Suydam, of Hallett's Cove, L.I. (Aug. 6, 1808)
Whitney, Isaac, mar. Sun. last to Miss Elizabeth Price, both of this
city. (Nov. 25, 1797)
Whitney, Mrs. Mary, wife of Eliseph Whitney, died at Stamford, on the
4th inst., aged 91 years and 3 months. Her
husband will be 97 years of aged on Feb. 14 next. They were married in
1734 and have had 10 children. (Feb. 5,
1814)
Whitney, Mrs., see Justice Butler
Whitney, Richard, a native of St. Johns, N.B., died on Thurs., after a
rapid illness, in his 24th year. (Mar. 19, 1808)
Whitney, Stephen, of this city, mar. at Newtown, on Thurs. last week,
to Miss Harriot Suydam, of that place. (Aug.
13, 1803)
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