Mailing List Discussions, March 1997

From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: My Whitney Ancestors Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 07:39:54 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Here are my lines:

John-1 WHITNEY and Elinor
  John-2 WHITNEY and Ruth Reynolds
     Nathaniel-3 WHITNEY and Sarah Hager
       Nathaniel -4WHITNEY and Mercy Robinson
           Torrey-5WHITNEY and Betsey Lamb
              Barnard Joel -6 WHITNEY and Lucy Ann Babcock
                 Evelyn-7 WHITNEY and Henry Stafford

My most wanted line is Ruth Reynold's date of birth and death.

Jean

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From: Tom Howder <[email protected]>

To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: And my Whitney Line Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 08:44:39 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

And my Whitney line is...

John-1 WHITNEY and Elinor ______

Benjamin-2 WHITNEY and Jane POOR
 Nathaniel-3 WHITNEY and Sarah FORD
  Abel WHITNEY-4 and Mary CANE
   Micah WHITNEY-5 and Hannah COBB
    Joanna WHITNEY-6 and Caleb SYLVESTER

My "Most Wanted" starts where I break off from the Whitney line at Joanna-6 and Caleb Sylvester. Also, recently I have noticed several people on this list who descend from Micah-5, and would be interested in a headcount of those people so that perhaps we can undertake some collaborative efforts.

I agree with the other people who have posted their lines that this is a

• great* idea.

- Tom Howder.

_______________________________ http://www.netrail.net/~howder/

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Nathan Whitney 1706/07 Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 10:29:07 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

If anyone is interested in current information continuing Nathan's line forward to present , I can furnish with same.

Steve Watts [email protected].

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Benjamin Whitney s/o Daniel and Dorothy (Tainter) Whitney Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 13:07:53 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Am looking for any information about Benjamin Whitney b. Apr 12, 1723 in Watertown, MA to Daniel and Dorothy (Tainter) who married Deliverance

---

. They had at least one son Henry or William Henry Whitney b.

1779 who married Fanny Miller/Millar in Dummerston VT c. 1800.

Thank you. Karen

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From: Robert Schadewald <[email protected]> (Robert Schadewald) To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Whitney ancestors Date: Sun, 2 Mar 97 11:50:11 -0600 Sender: [email protected]

At 04:00 PM 2/27/97 -0500, Michael R. Whitney wrote: >I would like to have you folks help me out by posting your lines, your "most >wanted" etc.

The following Whitney line is for Joanne Hogle and me, down to our great grandparents:

John-1 WHITNEY and Elinor -----

John-2 WHITNEY and Ruth REYNOLDS
 John-3 WHITNEY and Elizabeth HARRIS
  Daniel-4 WHITNEY and Susanna CURTIS
   Elijah-5 WHITNEY and Hannah -----
    John-6 WHITNEY and Mary -----
     John-7 WHITNEY and Abigail FOSTER
      Henry Payson-8 WHITNEY and Margaret HALL
       Julia Ardelle-9 WHITNEY and Rudolph Jacob SETZLER

I own the Bible of John-7 Whitney, and it at least names the entire male line from John-1 through Henry-8. Unfortunately, no places are given, and most wive's names are missing. The line has been well-documented by others down through Daniel-4 Whitney, and his son Elijah-5 was born in Roxbury. That is where we lose track (at least until the Roxbury VRs come out). We know that Julia-9 was born "in Boston," but her father Henry-8 taught school in Maine at some point.

MOST WANTED: Where did Elijah-5, John-6, and John-7 live and die? Who were Hannah and Mary? Any other info on these people.

Thanks, all.

Bob Schadewald

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Help Your Listowner Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 15:53:59 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Here is my Whitney line, and many thanks to your list and readers for all their help. Terri Stone

Descendants of Sir Robert Whitney

1 Sir Robert Whitney Elizabeth Morgan Guillins 2 Thomas Whitney Mary Bray 3 John Whitney Elinor 4 Benjamin Whitney Jane Poor 5 Nathaniel Whitney Sarah Ford 6 Nathaniel Whitney Hannah (Molly) Day 7 Josiah Whitney Hannah Barstow 8 Silas Whitney Elvira J. Lane 9 Nancy Bradbury Lane Whitney Peter Redmond

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From: Peg Sanborn <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: IGI list from Maine Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 20:15:14 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

WRG,

These were sent to the group around the first of December, by Marion Leska. I have reformatted them to make them easier to read. There are no page numbers or do I know the Title/publisher other than IGI list. What is IGI? The county/town/parish is also listed. I'm not familiar with the towns and counties of Maine. Maybe Jan or someone else would be willing to add some insight.

BIRTHS

WHITNEY

       Betsey, d. of Jeriah and Mary, April 30 1826, Franklin,Weld.
       Betsey, d. of Thomas and _____, Nov.10,1830, Cumberland, Raymond.
       Betsey Hopkins, d. of Timothy and Martha,  Sept.19,1796, Franklin,

Chesterville.

       Betsey R., d. of Andrew and Huldah,Jan.24,1826, Franklin,Phillips.
       Betty, d. of Abel and Thankful, Jul.22,1765. Cumberland,Gorham
       Betty, d. of Aaron and Jenny, May 7,1780, Cumberland, Gorham.
       Betty, d. of Joseph and Betty Phinney, Apr.1,1794, Cumberland, Gorham.
       Beulah, d. of Uriel and Lydia, June 3,1793, Cumberland, Gorham.
       Byron, s. of Andrew R. and Mary, Feb.3,1865. Cumberland, Standish.
       Calvin L., s. of Calvin and Nancy, Dec.29,1861, Knox, Rockport.
       Caroline, d. of Uriah and _____, 1801, Sagadohoc, Bowdoin.
       Caroline, d. of Benjamin and Patience, June 2,1825, Cumberland,

Cumberland.

       Caroline, d. of Ephraim and _____, Feb.24,1840, Cumberland, Raymond.
       Caroline E., d. of Issac L. and Mary E., May 22,1856, Kennebec,

Pittston.

       Caroline P., d. of Gorham and ?, Mar.11,1832, Kennebec,Gardiner.
       Carrie A., d. of Prelette and ?, Aug.22,1867, Knox,Rockland.
       Carrie B.F., d. Merril E and Martha E. May 6,1869, Cumberland, Cape

Elizabeth.

       Celinda, d. of Nathan and Sarah, July 28,1817, Kennebec,Litchfield.
       Charity R. d. of Jeremiah F. and ?, Oct.26,1825, Sagadahoc,Topsham.
       Charles, s. of Isaac and Sarah Truant, Oct.25,1786, Androscoggin,Lisbon.
       Charles, s. of Henry and Lucy, Oct.29,1817, Hancock,Castine.
       Charles, s. of Gustavus and Hannah Libby, Mar.10,1826,

Washington,Jonesboro.

       Charles Bolan, s. of Joseph and Jane, Aug.30,1827, Franklin,Phillips.
       Charles Carroll,s.of Wesley and Ann Augusta Furbush, Mar.9,1873,

Franklin,Freeman.

       Charles Edward, s. of Edward H. and Mary Ann, bap.June 28,1850,

Cumberland, New Gloucester.

       Charles Franklin, s. of Phinias and Maria E.,Sept.18,1868,

Cumberland,Portland.

       Charles H. s.of Perez and Mary, Sept.13,1846,Cumberland,Cumberland.
       Charles Henry, s. of Phineas and Hannah, bap. May 12,1850,

Cumberland,Portland.

       Charles Newell, s. of Abel and Sarah Cole, Aug.9,1841,

Cumberland,Standish.

       Charles P., s. of George W and Mary, Jan.16,1839, Cumberland,Bridgton.
       Charles Sumner, June 15, 1857,Kennebec,Gardiner.
       Charles Sumner, s. of Robert P. and Ruth F., June 15,1857,

Sagadahoc,Topsham.

       Charles Thaxter, s. of Joel and Sally, Sept.18,1817, Franklin,Phillips.
       Charlotte, d. of Micah and Hannah, Mar.16,1789, Franklin,Phillips.

MARRIAGES

WHITNEY

       Beulah Briton and Enos Small, Nov.2,1817, Cumberland,N.Yarmouth.
       Carrie L. and David H. Perry, July 3,1888, Aroostook, Sherman.
       Charles and Mary Elizabeth Sawyer, Sept.26,1852, York,Saco.
       Charles and Susan Yerxa,Oct.1,1861, Aroostook,Hodgdon.
       Charles and Ruth N. Cunningham, Aug.18,1864, Waldo, Belfast.
       Charles Carroll and Justina Ripley, Aug.4,1907, Franklin,Temple.
       Charles E. and Statira I. Bowden, 1884, York,Biddeford.
       Charles Robinson and Mary Edgecomb

Thurston,Dec.31,1851,Androscoggin,Danville.

       Charles W. and Harriet Peabody, Aug.13,1854,Cumberland,Falmouth.

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]>

Subject: My Whitney Line - AEG Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 00:22:10 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Hello again to the WRG:

In keeping with the current trend, here's my line of descent from Thomas of Westminster.

(1) Thomas Whitney, m. Mary Bray

(2) John Whitney, m. Elinor _____
 (3) John Whitney [2nd], m. Ruth Reynolds (I have a little Reynolds ancestry

available)

  (4) Nathaniel Whitney, m. Sarah Hagar (I just got some new info on the

Hagars)

   (5) Samuel Whitney (Sr.), m. Anne Laboree
    (6) Samuel Whitney (Jr.), m. (2) Hannah Judson (1) Unk. (3) Martha Howes
     (7) James Whitney, m. Eunice Johnson
      (8) Zerah Whitney, m. Jane Demond
       (9) Martin Van Buren Whitney, m. Harriet White (b. 1835, Clipstone,

Notts., Eng.)

        (10) Alice May Whitney, m. Allan Bowman Betzner
         (11) Doris Carolyn Betzner, m. Ernest Goodwin Green
          (12) Allan Eugene Green
          (12) Gordon Marion Green

My most wanted are the wives of 5, 6, 7 & 8, who are so far just names, AND, of course, the link that will find the parents of Thomas Whitney of Westminster and his forebears back to the main family line of the Whitneys of Hereford.

I'm enjoying everyone's postings, and hope it will result in some new connections.

Happy Hunting :-)

Allan E. Green <[email protected]>

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From: JSL & MAL <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: [Fwd: (Fwd) My Whitney Lines(2)] Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 23:23:59 -0800 Sender: [email protected]

Barb Oliver wrote: > > I'm sorry if I confused you. I have 2 WHINTEY lines. > > ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- > From: "Barb Oliver" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 22:53:14 +0000 > Subject: My Whitney Lines(2) > Priority: normal > > You think you get confused? Check out these lines: > > 1st WHITNEY line: > > John WHITNEY and Elinor _____ > John WHITNEY b.1621 and Ruth REYNOLDS b.1623 > Benjamin WHITNEY b 1660 Watertown and Abigail HAGAR b.c.1660 > Daniel WHITNEY b 1700 Watertown and Dorothy TAINTER b.1706 > Henry WHITNEY b. 1738 Watertown and Hannah TOMBS b.c. 1740 > William Henry WHITNEY b. 1779 Watertown and Fanny MILLER > Mary WHITNEY b. 1810 Brattleboro,VT and Charles SHERMAN > Charles Wesley SHERMAN b. 1838 NY and Laura RUNYAN > Laura Jane SHERMAN b. 1867 and Willis P. RILEY b. 1862 > Guy Sherman RILEY b. 1889 and Gladys I. MUMFORD > Robert W. RILEY and Eileen BARNETT > Barbara RILEY and William OLIVER > > Most Wanted: More information on William Henry and Fanny MILLER and > their children. Henry's time from Watertown to VT until they moved > to NY. > > 2nd WHITNEY line: > > Thomas WHITNEY b.c. 1600 Eng and Mary ROACH > Henry WHITNEY b.c. 1620 Eng and Sarah SALMON KETCHAM > John WHITNEY b. 1649 Eng and Elizabeth SMITH > Nathan WHITNEY b.c. 1695 Norwalk,CT and Sarah ________ > Jeremiah b. 1731 Ridgefield, CT and Eva YOUNGS > Jeremiah b. 1765 Westchester Co, NY and Sarah LEE b.c. 1765 > Joseph Lee WHITNEY b. 1785 Dutchess Co, NY and Phebe MEAD > Druscilla WHITNEY b. 1803 NY and Benjamin RUNYAN b. 1803 > Laura RUNYAN b. 1836 NY and Charles Wesley SHERMAN > > Most Wanted: More info on Nathan and wife Sarah ____. More info on > Jeremiah and Eva from CT to NY. > > Barb Oliver > [email protected] > http://www2.pcom.net/trees > > Barb Oliver > [email protected] > http://www2.pcom.net/trees Bravo Barb! Thanks for explaining to us that you are a cousin to most of us by 2 different lines. I thought that was the case but I could not find your earlier file. I MUST do some organizing, do not want to loose any of this precious information from my Whitney cousins, I am proud of all of you, even the unproven. There is still contraversy about Thomas & Mary being Henry's parents and then Phoenix and Pierce, but that will probably go on as long as there are researchers. After all, everyone is digging for the truth. I am just happy that Joan Hicks found my Henry 1620 and I will keep on plugging away as we all are for the truth of who's who in the Whitney family. I gotta get some rest, I am getting too philosophical about this stuff. I will have more new stuff on my page soon, I lost my publishing program accidentally so I cannot publish my wishes for my grandson on his 4th birthday 3/3/97. I had it all set up and I crashed. Such is life. Look for new and improved page soon. Have a good one all. MAL http://netdex.com/~malincal/

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: My WHITNEY line Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 08:03:08 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Here's my Whitney connection:

John Whitney m. Elinor ____

 John Whitney m. Ruth Reynolds
   Nathaniel Whitney m. Sarah Hagar
     Nathaniel Whitney m. Mercy Robinson
       Samuel Whitney m.  Elizabeth Hastings
         Samuel Whitney m. Phebe Harrington* (MA -> VT)
           Simci Whitney m. Silence Tucker  (VT)
             Burilla Whitney m. Nathan Jacobs, Jr.  (VT -> KY)
               Jacobs m. Witt m. Gould m. Tuttle (KY) m. Wilson (TX) = me

• John Whitney m. Elinor _____

  Sarah Whitney m. Daniel Harrington
     Daniel Harrington m. Elizabeth Warren
       Isaac Harrington m. Miriam Eagar
         Phebe Harrington m. Samuel Whitney

Most wanted: (1) verification of descent (my source for Burilla Whitney's heritage is the Pierce book); (2) information about Whitney spouses' lineages; (3) verification of the Harrington line and Whitney connection

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From: Rick Holmes <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]>

Subject: John, Father Thomas Whitney and Grandfather Robert Whitney. Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 13:32:10 -0600 Sender: [email protected]

I recently received a communication from a Robert L. Ward stating that I had a problem with one connection in my Genealogy database. He stated that the connection I had with John Whitney (b. 20 Jul 1592 wife Ellen, his father Thomas (b.14 Jul 1560, wife Mary Bray)and his father Robert Whitney(b. circa 1543, wife Elizabeth Guillims-Morgan)is wrong. He states that Robert has been incorrectly identified as his father by several. He refered me to two articles:

1) Donald Lines Jacobus, M.A. of New Haven, Conn., "Pre-American Ancestries: John Whitney of Watertown, Mass" The American Genealogist, Vol 10 (1933-1934), pp 84-88 and What is your information on this?

2)Reed, Paul C., "Whitney Origins Revisited: John -1 Whitney of Watertown, Massachusetts, and Henry-1 Whitney of Long Island and Norwalk, Connecticut," The American Genealogist, Vol 69 No. 1 (Jan 1994), pp 9-14.

What is your experience with this matter? I see you do not have the connection in your database, but there are some who do. Any help would be appreciated. Accuracy is extremely important to me.

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Robert L. Ward's 3/1/97 RE My Whitney Ancestors Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 16:40:56 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Hello

I received ifo from A Barb Oliver concerning Ruth Reynolds. You probably

also received the same. Born Kent, England 1623, died Watertown, Ma. c. 1705. Many thanks to her.

Also the question concerning Nathaniel-4 Whitney and Mercy . Torrey Whitney is my great- great grandfather. My cousins in Addison New York have all the research on this family and compiled it from Bibles, graves , marriage and death certificates in the effects of my grandmother Evelyn Whitney. I believe I sent all this data to you on February 6, 1995. My 88 year old cousin turned all this data over to me when he faced serious illness and I have been trying to confirm all dates, names , since last year.

Any help I can obtain from anyone is appreciated. I'm sure of lines back to Torrey Whitney and Betsey Lamb.

I need confirmation about my line back to John-1 and Elinor. So much material has come to me via this fine Whitney Web page. I am sifting through all of it. This is what I have compiled as of this date. Can you correct any errors I have or proof that it is not correct? John Whitney-born 1589, England. Died Watertown Mass in 1673. Married Elinor Born 1599, died 1659

 John Whitney-Born 1620, England. Died 1692 at Watertown, Mass. Married Ruth

Reynolds in 1642. Ruth born in Kent, England in 1623, died Watertown Mass. 1705

   Nathaniel Whitney- Born 1646 IN Watertown, Mass. Died 1732 in Wiston,

Mass. Married Sarah Hager in 1673 . Sarah born 1651, Died in 1746

      Nathaniel Whitney- Born 1675 in Watertown, Mass. Died in 1730. Married

Mercy Robinson in 1695, died 1740

       Captain Samuel Whitney- Baptized June 11, 1711. Died in Shrewsburg

Mass. in 1788

          Moses Whitney- Born 1767 in Mallow, Mass. Died January 19, 1834.

Married Bernice Locke in 1789. She was born in Pelham, Mass in 1768, Died N Nov 28, 1855

             Russell Whitney -Born May 17, 1792 in Marlboro, Mass. Died May

21, 1831in Jackson, Penna. Married Polly Lamb April 12, 1814. She was born January 28, 1789, died December 30, 1843

            Torrey Whitney Born July 1, 1794 in Marlboro, Mass. Died  in

Thompson. Pa. on December 29, 1872. Married Betsey Lamb on April 22, 1815 at Gibson, Pa. Betsey born February 10, 1797, Died October 22, 1865.

Russell and Torrey Whitney were brothers and married Sisters. They were daughters of Mayor Joel Lamb.

     Children of Betsey and Torrey Whitney
Alis Whitney- born November 3, 1816 in Hartford. Pa. Died in Honesdale, Pa.

in 1879

Merrick Whitney- born November 10, 1818 in Jackson, Pa. Died in Thompson,

Pa. in 1887

Barnard Joel Whitney- born January 5, 1823 in Gibson, Pa.  Died in

Thompson,Pa. in 1889

Russell Velosco Whitney- born in Gibson Pa. in 1824 Died in Thompson Pa. in

1890

I'm beginning to wonder if I am a descendant of Moses or Nathaniel or John
and Elinor.!! So many of my siblings, parents , great and great- great have

passed away and I rely on cemeteries and Bibles to gather information. Your help with the Whitneys is proving to be a great task but hopefully I can't ascertain the true compilation of my family tree.

 This is the list of Barnard Joel Whitney and Lucy Ann Babcock Whitney's

children

      Amorette Whitney Born May 2, 1844 Died October 1, 1873 Amorette

married W. H. Truax March 24, 1861

     Leander B. Whitney Born October 21, 1846 Died February 1934 . Married

Jane Rogers November 30, 1873. She was born April 2, 1852. Jane was the daughter of James and Hannah Rogers of Finneycompton, Warrickshire, England.

     Alonzo E. Whitney Born May 27, 1850 died in 1931.Married Dollie Simpson

March 1, 1879. She was born July 4, 1858.

     Evelyn E, Whitney Born August 15, 1856. Died September 12, 1932
      Emma C. Whitney August 15, 1856

Emma and Evelyn were twins. Emma was blind from birth but married twice and had Six children.

 Leander served in the Civil War and had six children.
  Alonzo Worked at the Round House in Susquehanna Pa. for the Erie Railroad

until retirement. He Had nine children

Lots of Whitney relatives still remain IN Pennslyvania.

I do believe I will know for sure who are my anscestors with help from various sources much thanks to you and all the Whitneys that have contributed to this Whitney Web page.

Jean

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From: "Patricia A. Whitney-Jones" <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: New to Whitney search Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 22:26:33 Sender: [email protected]

I am new at this...so I'm not even sure my Whitney line is connected with the ones I'm reading about. But, in the event any of my line does connect, here is what I have to date. At this point I'm missing lots of dates and locations...but, as far as I know the family was in Connecticut and/or Massachusetts for the most part. I just happen to have pictures (with names and dates written on the backs of them) for a couple of the people.

My Whitney line:

Enoch WHITNEY m. Thankful Park

 Hezekiah m. Olive Knight (see below)
  Samual m. Sarah ? (had children: Samual, Reuben)
   Susanna
    Rosanna
     Asa
      Thankful
        Joseph
         Sarah

Hezekiah WHITNEY/Olive Knight Their children:

  Elisha m. Rachael Frost (see below)
   Squire
    Thomas
     Betsy
      Abial m. Farny (or Fanny?) M. Gary (had child: Emily)
       David
        Diadama(?)

Elisha WHITNEY/Rachael Frost Their children:

  Marshal Frost m. Huldah Rosanna "Roxy" Warner (see below)
   Laura Marilla

Marshal Frost WHITNEY/Huldah Rosanna "Roxy" Warner {I have pictures}

 Marshal: (b) Nov, 09, 1802 in Washington, CT; (d) Jan 06, 1871 in

Nauigatuck?, CT

 Huldah:  (b) Jan 24, 1810 in Woodbury, CT; (d) Jun 22, 1886 in

Nauigatuck?, CT Their children:

  Jason Frost m. Ellen Lucena Tyler (see below)
    Laura Marilla m. Goodell (children: Charles Femont, Carrie Edith)
     Antoinette Rachael m. David Tucker
         Hannah m. Luther M. Baldwin
           Marshall m. Anne Howgate

Jason Frost WHITNEY/Ellen Lucena Tyler {I have pictures}

 Jason: (b) May 13, 1841 in Litchfield, CT; (d) Oct 16, 1882 in

Torrington, CT.

 Ellen: (b) Sep 06, 1839 in E. Bridgewater, PA; (d) Sep 29, 1914 in

Bridgeport, CT. Their children: {have pictures as children}

  Mary Winona, born in Waterbury, CT. m. Joseph Sandiford, born in

Waterbury, CT (see below)

   Ernest Jay m. Annie Mary
    Andrew Clarence m. Amelia Newman

Joseph Sandiford/Mary Winona WHITNEY (my paternal great grandparents)

 Joseph: (b)? (d)?
 Mary: (b)? (d)?

Their children:

  Irene Winona Sandiford m. Jean C. Lackie (my paternal grandparents--see

below)

   Edward Sandiford m. Clara House
    Josephine Sandiford m. Albert Cullingford
     Etola Sandiford m. Edward Stowell
      Edna Sandiford m. Edward Root

Jean C. Lackie/Irene Winona WHITNEY (my paternal grandparents)

 Jean:  ?
 Irene: ?

Their children:

  John Robert Lackie m. Caroline Elizabeth Bullen
  (believe there were also twins who died as young children)

John Robert Lackie m. Caroline Elizabeth Bullen (my parents)

(m) Jan 22, 1942 in Wilmington, DE
 John: (b) Mar 12, 1916 in Boston, Mass; (d) Jul 13, 1981 in Newark, DE
 Caroline: (b) Feb 20, 1921 in Middletown, DE; (d) Aug 12, 1984 in

Wilmington, DE. Their children:

 Patricia Anne Lackie [aka Patricia Anne Whitney-Jones (this is me!) - see

below

 NOTE: I took the family name of WHITNEY when I divorced my first husband

in 1984.

   William Richard Lackie m. #1 ?, #2 ?
     Jon David Lackie m. Terry Suzanne Shaffner
      Kevin Lee Lackie
       Linda Lee Lackie m. Joseph Kruemmer

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From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Whitney ancestors Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 18:54:30 -0500 Sender: [email protected]

At 11:50 AM 3/2/97 -0600, you wrote: >The following Whitney line is for Joanne Hogle and me, down to our great >grandparents: > >John-1 WHITNEY and Elinor ----- > John-2 WHITNEY and Ruth REYNOLDS > John-3 WHITNEY and Elizabeth HARRIS > Daniel-4 WHITNEY and Susanna CURTIS > Elijah-5 WHITNEY and Hannah ----- > John-6 WHITNEY and Mary ----- > John-7 WHITNEY and Abigail FOSTER > Henry Payson-8 WHITNEY and Margaret HALL > Julia Ardelle-9 WHITNEY and Rudolph Jacob SETZLER > >I own the Bible of John-7 Whitney, and it at least names the entire male >line from John-1 through Henry-8. Unfortunately, no places are given, and >most wive's names are missing. The line has been well-documented by others >down through Daniel-4 Whitney, and his son Elijah-5 was born in Roxbury. >That is where we lose track (at least until the Roxbury VRs come out). We >know that Julia-9 was born "in Boston," but her father Henry-8 taught school >in Maine at some point. > >MOST WANTED: Where did Elijah-5, John-6, and John-7 live and die? Who were >Hannah and Mary? Any other info on these people.

I suggest you look in the Boston VR for the marriage of Elijah-5 WHITNEY and Hannah (COFFIN) WHITNEY on 1 Nov 1739.

The Roxbury VR show the marriage of John-6 WHITNEY and Mary PAYSON on 22 Apr 1773. According to S.B., "Whitney," _The New England Historical and Genealogical Register_, vol. 13 (1859), p. 96, John-6, b. 29 Nov 1749, m. Mary PAYSON, 22 Apr 1773, and lived in Warwick [which I take to be Warwick, MA, as opposed to any other state]; and she died about 1816, and he after 1830.

I know nothing of the parentage of either Hannah COFFIN or Mary PAYSON.

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: John, Father Thomas Whitney and Grandfather Robert Whitney. Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 00:39:19 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Dear Rick: (and I've copied this to the entire list for the benefit of other newcomers)

Much as I hate to admit it (since I've enjoyed my connection to all those Hereford Whitneys for lo, these many years), Robert is right - at least for now. The arguments put forth in these two articles by Donald Lines Jacobus (one of America's most respected genealogists and authors for the early 20th C.) and Paul C. Reed (a professional genealogist from Salt Lake City, known to at least one of our members as a very careful researcher) are so compelling as to (reluctantly) convince me that, barring further discovery of additional reliable data, Thomas of Westminster, husband of Mary Bray, could not be the son of the Robert Whitney who married Elizabeth ap Morgan Guillims, he who was the third son of Sir Robert Whitney and Sybil Baskerville.

Have you read through the two articles yet? Robert Ward has them on his Website at

http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/

I've been working on this family for twenty-five years, including four trips to England, and I have no basis for argument with their conclusions - and they have included documents and sources that I had not previously seen. I got very frustrated when I got home last summer and discovered this problem AFTER I GOT BACK from five weeks in England, where I could have worked on it, had I known of it then. I have been working off and on with one or two Whitney researchers on England, trying to plot out a plan of attack to see if we can find an alternative source for Thomas' parentage, perhaps in Cheshire, as there were a number of Whitneys in that Shire whose descendants migrated to Essex, Suffolk and Surrey. Believe me, if and when we find anything that sheds light on this matter we will shout it from the housetops. In the meantime, I personally have not deleted all the Whitneys from Sir Robert back to Turstin the Fleming, just added a note that says that the Thomas/Robert connection is not at all reliable.

Hope this explains things a little more thoroughly. If you want to ask any more questions, please feel free - I think I know about as much as anyone about the early English branches of this family, and I have been the unofficial "keeper of the English ancestry database" for the WRG since it started 18 months ago.

BTW, I would like to ask the source of your birthdate for Thomas Whitney.

Have you a parish register location for it?  I have for years simply had him

as a ca 1563. If your date is provable, perhaps it could aid my search for his possible parents. There is an entry in Ancestral File for Thomas, which says born in "Lambert Marsh" in Surrey (which I have not ever been able to find, despite assiduous searching) - and I find it interesting that less than a mile across Westminster bridge from St. Margaret's lies Lambeth Marsh, which IS in Surrey. Also BTW, John Whitney was christened at St. Margaret Westminster on the 20 July 1592 date, so was probably born some time earlier than that. I have posted the Whitney entries extracted from that parish register on Robert Ward's webpage as well.

Happy Hunting:-)

Allan E. Green <[email protected]>

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From: Barry GeneDoctor Whitney <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Surrogate Court Records, S through Z, Ontario County, 1789 to 192 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 03:42:55 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

http://nyslgti.gen.ny.us/nylocal/Ontario/block5.html

Following is an excerpt from a very large file at the above URL, folks who had wills or otherwise died leaving property.

The original Ontario County evidently encompassed most of western NY state.

If you find or know of Whitney relatives here, PLEASE email me at <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>

I am trying to get more information on Mason-1 Whitney, Erastus-2 Whitney (m. Betsy Chadwick 1826), and Seymour-3 M. Whitney, who probably lived in Philadelphia, NY (NE of Watertown, NY), in 1765-1860. Anyone know these guys?

This Ontario County <http://nyslgti.gen.ny.us/nylocal/Ontario/> site has a LOT of Whitney information, and they will do research or copy original records (for a fee, of course). I hope this will be helpful to some of the rest of you who are on Whitney quests.

Enjoy, Barry-6 John Barry Whitney III

Surrogate Court Records, 1789-1926, S through Z

NAME YEAR TOWN

SEYMOUR, BELDEN 1858 VICTOR SEYMOUR, CATHERINE 1905 CANANDAIGUA SEYMOUR, CHARLES H. 1869 E. BLOOMFIELD SEYMOUR, DENNIS 1916 W. BLOOMFIELD SEYMOUR, HARRIET 1920 W. BLOOMFIELD SEYMOUR, HENRIETTA 1928 GENEVA SEYMOUR, HENRY 1836 VICTOR SEYMOUR, HIRAM 1844 VICTOR SEYMOUR, JAMES 1904 GENEVA SEYMOUR, JOHN 1923 W. BLOOMFIELD SEYMOUR, MARY 1929 W. BLOOMFIELD SEYMOUR, MATTHEW 1917 W. BLOOMFIELD SEYMOUR, OLONZO 1861 SENECA SEYMOUR, ORSON 1824 CANANDAIGUA SEYMOUR, SARAH A. 1904 GENEVA SEYMOUR, WALTER 1901 GENEVA

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WEST, SEYMOUR 1855 FARMINGTON ....... WHITNEY, AMELIA 1908 SENECA WHITNEY, AMELIA E. 1905 MANCHESTER WHITNEY, AMI 1867 SENECA WHITNEY, AMI J. 1901 SENECA WHITNEY, BYRON 1925 SENECA WHITNEY, CATHARINE 1841 HOPEWELL WHITNEY, CHEENEY 1886 SENECA WHITNEY, COLUMBUS C. 1917 MANCHESTER WHITNEY, DANIEL N. 1910 SENECA WHITNEY, ELIZA B. 1913 PHELPS WHITNEY, ESTHER E. 1883 SENECA WHITNEY, HACHALIAH 1918 SENECA WHITNEY, HANNAH C. 1913 SENECA WHITNEY, HENRY H. 1887 PHELPS WHITNEY, HOBART J. 1927 GENEVA WHITNEY, JANE A. 1930 SENECA WHITNEY, JEFFERSON J. 1897 HOPEWELL WHITNEY, JOEL 1826 SENECA WHITNEY, JONAS 1824 HOPEWELL WHITNEY, JONATHAN 1895 HILLSDALE, MICH WHITNEY, LEVI H. 1883 SENECA WHITNEY, LEVINA N. 1904 SENECA WHITNEY, LUTHER 1878 SENECA WHITNEY, MARTHA 1909 GENEVA WHITNEY, MARY C. 1912 SENECA WHITNEY, MARY C. 1917 PHELPS WHITNEY, MARY F. 1906 GENEVA WHITNEY, NATHAN 1838 SENECA WHITNEY, OSCAR J. 1923 PHELPS WHITNEY, OTIS 1881 SENECA WHITNEY, SAMUEL 1809 WHITNEY, SARAH 1920 SENECA WHITNEY, SARAH C. 1906 SENECA WHITNEY, SARAH JANE GENEVA WHITNEY, SIDNEY 1905 SENECA WHITNEY, SUSAN 1910 PHELPS WHITNEY, TACY 1907 SENECA WHITNEY, TEMPERANCE 1849 PHELPS

<a href="hist_records.html">RETURN TO HOME</a>

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From: "Graham, Gene" <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: My Whitney Line Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 08:40:05 -0800 Sender: [email protected]

Here's my shot at "My WHITNEY Line":

1 John WHITNEY and Elinor -----

  2 Benjamin WHITNEY and Jane -----
     3 Nathaniel WHITNEY and Sarah FORD
        4 Abel WHITNEY and Mary CANE
           5 Micah WHITNEY and Hannah COBB
              6 Benjamin Morse WHITNEY and Susan WELLS
                 7 Royal Thaxter WHITNEY and Sarah Louisa LAMBERT
                    8 Inez WHITNEY and Ephraim DAVENPORT
                       9 Ernest DAVENPORT and Laura Lee WILSON
                          10 Dorothy DAVENPORT and Atlas DAVES
                              11 Stella DAVES and Homer B. GRAHAM
                                 12 Me (Gene Graham)

Gene [email protected]

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From: Barry GeneDoctor Whitney <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Whitneys who were Jurors in Early 1800's, western NY Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 11:55:13 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Hoping someone may find it helpful not to have to download the whole 480k file,

The following is the Whitney section of

Early (1804-1836) Ontario County, New York, Jury rolls.

<A HREF="http://nyslgti.gen.ny.us/nylocal/Ontario/jury.html"> http://nyslgti.gen.ny.us/nylocal/Ontario/jury.html</A>

LASTNAME FIRSTNAME YEAR TOWN EXCUSE .... WHITNEY AMI 1805 SENECA WHITNEY AMI 1812 SENECA WHITNEY AMI 1827 SENECA WHITNEY AMI 1829 SENECA WHITNEY AMI 1834 SENECA WHITNEY AMI 1836 SENECA WHITNEY BASOM 1806 EASTON WHITNEY DENIS 1827 RICHMOND WHITNEY DENNIS N. 1827 RICHMOND WHITNEY ISAAC 1813 MIDDLESEX WHITNEY JOEL 1812 WHITNEY JOEL 1812 SENECA WHITNEY JOEL 1836 SENECA WHITNEY JONAS 1804 PHELPS WHITNEY JONAS 1808 GORHAM WHITNEY JOSHUA 1808 HARTFORD WHITNEY LYMAN 1826 RICHMOND WHITNEY LYMAN 1831 RICHMOND WHITNEY LYMAN 1832 RICHMOND WHITNEY NATHAN 1804 SENECA WHITNEY NATHAN 1812 SENECA WHITNEY OTIS 1832 SENECA WHITNEY OTIS 1836 SENECA WHITNEY WALTER 1829 HOPEWELL WHITNEY WALTER 1831 HOPEWELL WHITNEY WALTER 1835 HOPEWELL

---

Can anyone tell me if any of these is descended from Mason Whitney b. 12/16/1765, son of Micah Whitney b. 6/4/1725 ? More importantly, are YOU?

Yours, Barry

John Barry Whitney III North Augusta, SC

[email protected]

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From: Edward Sinker <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: My Whitney Line Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 19:20:36 +0000 Sender: [email protected]

At 21:55 03/03/97 -0500, "Loren J. McCullough" <[email protected]> wrote: >My Whitney (and etc.) line. > > 1 WHITNEY, Thomas > .. +BRAY, Mary > . 2 WHITNEY, John > ..... +?, Elinor > .... 3 WHITNEY, Jonathan > ........ +JONES, Lydia > ....... 4 WHITNEY, Jonathan > ........... +HAPGOOD, Sarah > .......... 5 WHITNEY, Anne

errrr......pardon me for butting in but there might be a little problem with this descent or else I have a little problem with my data. The information that I have show that the parents of the Jonathan Whitney born 17 Oct 1704 who married Lydia Jones were:

Jonathan Whitney born about 1681 and Susannah Fairbanks born about 1684 married 14 Jan 1700/1 Medfield, Norfolk Co., MA. and his parents were:

Benjamin Whitney born 6 Jun 1643 married Jane ?????? about 1668 in York, Maine and his parents were:

The famous couple John and Elinor Whitney. Ta Dah!

Is this correct?????

BTW Loren I have information that takes you back to Lydia Jones' greatgrandfather if you are interested. If you already know it perhaps we could compare notes.

ttfn

Edward Coates Sinker   -  email:  [email protected]
Church Lea
Bosbury
Herefordshire  HR8 1PX
U. K.

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From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: My Line Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 18:59:58 -0500 Sender: [email protected]

At 09:46 PM 3/3/97 -0500, you wrote: >I'm sorry folks if this is a duplication but I did not see a copy posted. HCP > >My WHITNEY Line: >1. John Whitney and Elinor > 2.John Whitney and Ruth Reynolds > 3.Benjamin Whitney and Abigail Hagar. Married 2nd Elizabeth ? > 4.Ensign David Whitney and Rebecca Fillerbrown > 5.Josiah Whitney and Sarah Lawrence > 6.Josiah Whitney and Mary Barrett > 7.Jonas Prescott Whitney and Rebecca Piper. Married 2nd Louisa >Wheeler > 8.Mary Ann Whitney and James A. Mansfield

I don't believe that your Benjamin-3 WHITNEY had a second wife, nor did he die in 1736, contrary to what may be found in some printed sources.

His nephew Benjamin-4 WHITNEY (Joseph-3, John-2, John-1) married Elizabeth FISKE on 1 Mar 1710, and he died between the date of his will, 14 Jun 1736, and its probate, 19 Oct 1736, all in Watertown, MA. This is proved by the names of his children as given in his will.

I am not aware of any record of the death of either Benjamin-3 WHITNEY or Abigail (HAGAR) WHITNEY, his wife.

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

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From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif">

To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: New to Whitney search Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 20:23:20 -0500 Sender: [email protected]

At 10:26 PM 3/3/97, you wrote: >I am new at this...so I'm not even sure my Whitney line is connected with >the ones I'm reading about. But, in the event any of my line does connect, >here is what I have to date. At this point I'm missing lots of dates and >locations...but, as far as I know the family was in Connecticut and/or >Massachusetts for the most part. I just happen to have pictures (with >names and dates written on the backs of them) for a couple of the people. > >My Whitney line: > >Enoch WHITNEY m. Thankful Park > Hezekiah m. Olive Knight (see below) > Samual m. Sarah ? (had children: Samual, Reuben) > Susanna > Rosanna > Asa > Thankful > Joseph > Sarah > >Hezekiah WHITNEY/Olive Knight >Their children: > Elisha m. Rachael Frost (see below) > Squire > Thomas > Betsy > Abial m. Farny (or Fanny?) M. Gary (had child: Emily) > David > Diadama(?) > >Elisha WHITNEY/Rachael Frost >Their children:

Oh, yes, you do attach to the John-1 and Elinor (-----) WHITNEY tree!

Enoch-4 WHITNEY, b. ca. 1708, Stow, MA, son of Ebenezer-3 and Anna (-----) WHITNEY, d. unknown.

 He m. 21 Dec 1732, Plainfield, CT, Thankful PARKE, dau. of William and

Jane (BORDEN) PARKE, b. 27 June 1717, Plainfield, CT.

Ebenezer-3 WHITNEY, b. 30 Jun 1672, Watertown, MA, son of Richard-2 and Martha (COLDAM) WHITNEY, d. 5 Aug 1727, Pomfret, CT.

 He m. ca. 1700, Anna -----, b. ca. 1674, d. 15 May 1758, Pomfret, CT.

Richard-2 WHITNEY, bp. 6 Jan 1624, Isleworth, Middlesex, England, son of John-1 and Elinor (-----) WHITNEY, d. said 20 Sep 1719, Concord, MA.

 He m. 19 Mar 1651, Watertown, MA, Martha COLDAM.

John-1 WHITNEY, bp. 20 Jul 1592, St. Margaret's, Westminster, London, son of Thomas and Mary (BRAY) WHITNEY, d. 1 Jun 1673, Watertown, MA.

 He m.(1) ca. 1619, Elinor -----, b. ca. 1599, d. 11 May 1659, Watertown, MA.
 He m.(2) 29 Sep 1659, Watertown, MA, Judah (-----) CLEMENT, widow of Robert.

Thomas WHITNEY, b. bef. 1562, parentage unknown (*not* son of Robert and Elizabeth (GWILLIMS) WHITNEY), d. Apr 1637, prob. Isleworth, Middlesex.

 He m. 12 May 1583, St. Margaret's, Westminster, Mary BRAY, bp. 24 Dec 1564,

St. Margaret's, Westminster, dau. of John and Margaret (HASLONDE) BRAY, bur. 25 Sep 1629, St. Margaret's, Westminster.

John BRAY, b. ca. 1534, parentage unknown, said d. 6 Dec 1615.

 He m. 13 Aug 1553, St. Margaret's, Westminster, Margaret HASLONDE, parentage

unknown, b. ca. 1536, d. unknown.

I may be able to help with the PARKE and BORDEN families, too, if you need it.

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: My Whitney Line Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 22:53:00 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

John Whitney & Elinor

 Richard Whitney & Martha Coldham
    Ebenezer Whitney & Anna ?
        Zachariah Whitney & Ruth Taylor
            Ephraim Whitney & Rhoda ?
                Elisha Whitney & Meriam Eaton (Taylor)
                    Arvy Whitney & Lucretia Remington
                        William Elisha Whitney & Mary Charlotte Higley
                            Arvy Isaac Whitney & Hannah Robertson Enloe
                               Milton Samuel Whitney & Beverly A. O'Kane
                                (This is my Mother and Father )

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From: "Loren J. McCullough" <[email protected]>

To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: My Whitney Line Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 22:55:41 -0500 Sender: [email protected]

Edward Sinker wrote: > > At 21:55 03/03/97 -0500, "Loren J. McCullough" <[email protected]> wrote: > >My Whitney (and etc.) line. > > > > 1 WHITNEY, Thomas > > .. +BRAY, Mary > > . 2 WHITNEY, John > > ..... +?, Elinor > > .... 3 WHITNEY, Jonathan > > ........ +JONES, Lydia > > ....... 4 WHITNEY, Jonathan > > ........... +HAPGOOD, Sarah > > .......... 5 WHITNEY, Anne > > errrr......pardon me for butting in but there might be a little problem > with this descent or else I have a little problem with my data. The > information that I have show that the parents of the Jonathan Whitney > born 17 Oct 1704 who married Lydia Jones were: > > Jonathan Whitney born about 1681 and Susannah Fairbanks born > about 1684 married 14 Jan 1700/1 Medfield, Norfolk Co., MA. and his > parents were: > > Benjamin Whitney born 6 Jun 1643 married Jane ?????? about 1668 > in York, Maine and his parents were: > > The famous couple John and Elinor Whitney. Ta Dah! > > Is this correct????? > > BTW Loren I have information that takes you back to Lydia Jones' > greatgrandfather if you are interested. If you already know it > perhaps we could compare notes. > > ttfn > > Edward Coates Sinker - email: [email protected] > Church Lea > Bosbury > Herefordshire HR8 1PX > U. K.

I believe that we are talking about two different Jonathan Whitney and Lydia Jones here. This Jonathan was born in 1634 and died in 1702. While Lydia was born 1632 and died 3 Feb 1701/02. They were married 30 Oct 1656 in Watertown. I believe I had run into this same problem before and it took me a while to sort it all out.

Loren McCullough

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: My Whitney Line Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 01:26:41 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Dear Ed:

I have a vague memory that this problem cropped up once before, about six months ago, but since it is not my own line, I am not sure I remember the details exactly. I believe we have TWO Jonathan Whitneys marrying two ladies named Lydia - and the first was named Jones, I am sure of that. I don't remember the proof of the second Lydia being a Jones.

The first Jonathan was the son of John and Elinor, born ca 1633/4 just before they emigrated to Watertown in 1635. This was probably while they were still residing at Bow Lane, but I have never found a baptism for him in either Isleworth or St. Mary Aldermary where most of the other children were christened. He married Lydia Jones, daughter of Lewis and Anna Jones, on 30 Oct 1656 in Watertown.

A later Jonathan(3), the one born ca 1681 in ME, son of Benjamin(2) and Jane Poor, was married to Susanna "Farbank" (Fairbanks) in Medfield, as you cited, and their son Jonathan(4) is the one who married another Lydia (Jones? - I just don't have that one in my db), and again I don't have a date, but it should be ca 1725/30.

I know I have not completely cleared up the confusion, because I have some "facts" missing, including the later Lydia's surname. What is clear, I think, is that the Lydia Jones cited by Loren McCullough for her marriage to Jonathan is in the correct place in the descendancy, married to Jonathan(2), last child of John and Elinor born in England.

Happy Hunting :-) Allan

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From: Robert Schadewald <[email protected]> (Robert Schadewald) To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Whiteny Family Records Date: Wed, 5 Mar 97 06:49:49 -0600 Sender: [email protected]

In a previous message, I noted that the Bible of John Whitney, Jr. (1783-1839) at least names eight generations of male Whitneys and includes birth, marriage, and death dates for the later generations. I have received a request for copies of the relevant Family Record pages, to which I acceded. Should anyone else want copies, send a stamped, self-addressed envelope to:

  Robert Schadewald
  13204 Parkwood Drive
  Burnsville, MN  55337

The Bible pages are badly browned, and to get rid of the background darkness in my master copies, I had to use a very light setting on the copier. Nevertheless, nearly all of the entries are decipherable from the copies.

Bob Schadewald

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Whitney Book Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:03:00 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Hi ALL; I have in my possession a book of 105 pages that the authors call "This History and Genealogy". The name is, Whitney - Riehl and allied families, Boyd, McDowall, McKim,Riehl 'Riel' & Steichelman. This book has no publisher, copyright, sale address, or anyway, by way of contacting the authors to see if it is for sale some where, I am going to list some of the names and see if anyone recognizes any names that could be contacted about the same. The authors say in the preface, "It can also serve as a foundation for those who may want to add new and additional facts to their genealogical history." So I suppose that would make it all right to share it with "The List". In the INTRODUCTION it is stated-- Nicholas Whitney was born at Breezmount, Old Court, Parish of Adamstown, county of Wexford, Barony of Bantry, Province of Leinster, Ireland, Left there in April 1823 in the Maria, of Pembroke, Capt. key, Arrived at Quebec lower Canada on the 29th May same year. Resided upon and near Isle Aux Noix up to June 1860. Arrived at Louden Iowa 1st July 1860.

- the authors are

    Leslie P. Whitney & Fred R. Whitney

Thomas Whitney of Moneytucker b. about 1667 Will dated 11 Feb. 1725 proved 9 Jan. 1726 m. Rebecca ---

                I- James
                II-  Richard
                III-Thomas Whitney (the older) of Bush Park & Ruffpark
     m. Martha - - - - - I-Henry
       II-Mary
     III-Thomas Whitney [the younger]
       of Bush Park
       m. Frances Gill

                IV-Benjamin Whitney of Old Ross
      m. Mary King, sister of  Nicholas  King of Faight
 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -I- Benjamin
       II- Rebecca
       III-Nicholas Whitney
       of Old Ross
       m. Catherine Gore, 19/5/1750
                      V-Luke
                    VI-John

It tells of this Whitney family's moves from Canada to Nebraska and a nice bunch of stories and pictures to go along with the moves. I think what I'll do is have some copies made of this book and will send them snail-mail to anyone that is interested. So let me know at [email protected] by the 20th of March so I'll know how many and I can get a printing price. Have a nice one!! Jerry

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From: [email protected] (Herbert Phelps) To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]>

Subject: Re:MY WHITNEY LINE Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 17:10:38 -0500 Sender: [email protected]

Since I posted my line to the List, I have had some queries about the info. Here is what I'm using as a source: It is the book "ANDREW WHITNEY" Ashby, Springfield and Fitchburg, Massachusetts.1912. The Genealogy that is referred to in this book is outlined below. I only carried the major detailed information down to where it branches off to the Wood family which is my wife's line. I have no further information to agree or dispute anything further.

WHITNEY GENEALOGY

 1. John Whitney, born in england, 1589; settled in Watertown, Mass.,June,

1635; married in England, Elinor, who died in Watertown, May 11, 1659; married second, in Watertown, Sept. 29, 1669, Judith Clement who died before her husband; residence, Watertown, Mass.

 2. John Whitney, (John) born in England, 1620; resided in Watertow;

married, 1642, Ruth Reynolds, daughter of Robert Reynolds, of Watertown, Weathersfield (sic) and Boston, Mass.

 3. Benjamin Witney, (John, John) of Watertown, born June 28, 1660; married,

March 30, 1787, Abigail Hagar, daughter of William and Mary (Bemis) Hagar; married second, Elizabeth; he died in 1736; residence, Watertown,

 4. Ensign David Whitney, (Benjamin, John, John) born at Watertown, June 16,

1697; married Rebecca Fillerbrown, born in Cambridge, Nov. 6, 1675; died 1749. He was one of the original propieters of land at Paris, Maine, in 1736.

 5. Josiah Whitney, (David, Benjamin, Johnm, John) born Nov. 22, 1730;

married, June 15, 1752, Sarah Lawrence, born July 21, 1737; died Sept. 14, 1794. He served in a Watertown company during the Revolutionary War. He died Dec. 3, 1800; residence, Waltham and Ashby, Mass.

 6.Josiah Whitney, (Josiah, David, Benjamin, John, John) born at Waltham,

June 23, 1765; marriage published Jan. 10, 1790 to Mary Barrett, born 1768; died Aug. 23, 1841. He was born in Waltham and married in church in Ashby, Nov.24, 1797, where they ever resided.

 7.Jonas Prescott Whitney, (Josiah, Josiah, David, Benjamin, John, John)

born in Waltham, Sept 22, 1793, and baptized the same day. Moved to Ashby 1799, and married Rebecca Piper, daughter of Jonathon Piper, of Ashby; born May 15, 1797; died June 18, 1838. He married, second, Louisa Wheeler, born April 14, 1804; died June 1, 1864. He died in Ashby, Aug 18, 1879.

DESCENDANTS OF JONAS PRESCOTT WHITNEY

 I. REBECCA, born June 26, 1815; married, Sept. 16 1841, Isaac Cushing;

residence, Ashby, Mass.; born June 30, 1813; died Oct. 9, 1891. She died Sept. 11, 1896.

   Children of Rebecca and Isaac Cushing:
 1. Charles Tileston, born Sept. 24, 1842; married Eliza Carleton; married

second, Mrs. Mary Edgecome. By the first marriage there was one daughter, Caroline Rebecca. She married Ernest Adams, from whom she was divorced; married second Albert St. Clair.

 2. Sewall Gibson, born Sept 7, 1844; married Addie Sampson, Aug 22, 1872.

She was born June 5, 1848; residence, Fitchburg.

   Children of Addie and Sewall Cushing:

 (a) Alice Whitney, born Feb. 28, 1874; married April 27, 1898, Elmer E.

Reed. Their children are: Elsworth, born April 8, 1900 and Leslie, born Oct. 30, 1902.

 (b) Helen Lucinda, born March 27, 1876; died April 22, 1876.

 (c)Hermon Sampson, born March 13, 1878; married June 23, 1902, Florence

Buckley. They have two children: Mildred born March 3, 1903, and Dana, born Feb. 24, 1908.

 4.Emily Frances, born Oct.29, 1847.

 5. Jonas Prescott, born April 21, 1849; married Martha Louise Holman; died

Dec. 15, 1907. They had two children: Mildred, born Nov.11, 1893, and Earl Isaac, born Sept. 15, 1895

 6. Jane Wellington, born March 22, 1851; married March 24, 1874, Thomas

Tivnin; he died Feb. 18, 1888.

 II. JOSIAH DAVIS, born Nov. 7, 1818; married Dec. 5, 1842, Lucy Day Chapin,

of Springfield, Mass.; born Dec.21, 1818; he died Feb. 5, 1902

   Children of Lucy and Josiah D. Whitney:

 1.Lucy Jane, born June 13, 1844, unmarried.

 2.Edwin Day, born April 4, 1856; married Julia Spring Brooks, born March

22, 1857; died December, 1911; residence, Brattleboro, Vt. Their children were: Harold Edward, born Feb. 29, 1884; Edwina Augusta, born Aug. 18, 1885; Alice Lucy, born April 5, 1887; Merrill Brooks, born May 26, 1891.

 III. MARY ANN, born Nov. 17, 1820; married May, 1843, James A Mansfield;

she died in November 1885.

   Children of Mary Ann and James A. Mansfield:

 1. Lorinda Elizabeth, born August, 1844; married John A. Merrill.

       2. Ann Maria, Married Thomas Wood

 IV. Jonas, born March 30, 1824

 V. Andrew, born Feb. 28, 1826

 VI. Clara, born May 6, 1828

 VII. Sarah, born Oct.14, 1830

 VIII. Ellen, born June 11, 1832

 IX. Milo, born May 16, 1834

 X. Julius, born May 28, 1836

 My research of the Whitney Family does not progress beyond  Ann Maria Wood

and Thomas Jefferson Wood. They were my wife's great grand parents and I'm looking for information on Thomas. Hope this helps more than it confuses.

Regards to all, Herb Phelps [email protected]

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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 17:10:38 -0500 To: [email protected], <img src="/robertward.gif">, [email protected] From: [email protected] (Herbert Phelps) Subject: Re:MY WHITNEY LINE

Since I posted my line to the List, I have had some queries about the info. Here is what I'm using as a source: It is the book "ANDREW WHITNEY" Ashby, Springfield and Fitchburg, Massachusetts.1912. The Genealogy that is referred to in this book is outlined below. I only carried the major detailed information down to where it branches off to the Wood family which is my wife's line. I have no further information to agree or dispute anything further.

WHITNEY GENEALOGY

 1. John Whitney, born in england, 1589; settled in Watertown, Mass.,June,

1635; married in England, Elinor, who died in Watertown, May 11, 1659; married second, in Watertown, Sept. 29, 1669, Judith Clement who died before her husband; residence, Watertown, Mass.

 2. John Whitney, (John) born in England, 1620; resided in Watertow;

married, 1642, Ruth Reynolds, daughter of Robert Reynolds, of Watertown, Weathersfield (sic) and Boston, Mass.

 3. Benjamin Witney, (John, John) of Watertown, born June 28, 1660; married,

March 30, 1787, Abigail Hagar, daughter of William and Mary (Bemis) Hagar; married second, Elizabeth; he died in 1736; residence, Watertown,

 4. Ensign David Whitney, (Benjamin, John, John) born at Watertown, June 16,

1697; married Rebecca Fillerbrown, born in Cambridge, Nov. 6, 1675; died 1749. He was one of the original propieters of land at Paris, Maine, in 1736.

 5. Josiah Whitney, (David, Benjamin, Johnm, John) born Nov. 22, 1730;

married, June 15, 1752, Sarah Lawrence, born July 21, 1737; died Sept. 14, 1794. He served in a Watertown company during the Revolutionary War. He died Dec. 3, 1800; residence, Waltham and Ashby, Mass.

 6.Josiah Whitney, (Josiah, David, Benjamin, John, John) born at Waltham,

June 23, 1765; marriage published Jan. 10, 1790 to Mary Barrett, born 1768; died Aug. 23, 1841. He was born in Waltham and married in church in Ashby, Nov.24, 1797, where they ever resided.

 7.Jonas Prescott Whitney, (Josiah, Josiah, David, Benjamin, John, John)

born in Waltham, Sept 22, 1793, and baptized the same day. Moved to Ashby 1799, and married Rebecca Piper, daughter of Jonathon Piper, of Ashby; born May 15, 1797; died June 18, 1838. He married, second, Louisa Wheeler, born April 14, 1804; died June 1, 1864. He died in Ashby, Aug 18, 1879.

DESCENDANTS OF JONAS PRESCOTT WHITNEY

 I. REBECCA, born June 26, 1815; married, Sept. 16 1841, Isaac Cushing;

residence, Ashby, Mass.; born June 30, 1813; died Oct. 9, 1891. She died Sept. 11, 1896.

   Children of Rebecca and Isaac Cushing:
 1. Charles Tileston, born Sept. 24, 1842; married Eliza Carleton; married

second, Mrs. Mary Edgecome. By the first marriage there was one daughter, Caroline Rebecca. She married Ernest Adams, from whom she was divorced; married second Albert St. Clair.

 2. Sewall Gibson, born Sept 7, 1844; married Addie Sampson, Aug 22, 1872.

She was born June 5, 1848; residence, Fitchburg.

   Children of Addie and Sewall Cushing:

 (a) Alice Whitney, born Feb. 28, 1874; married April 27, 1898, Elmer E.

Reed. Their children are: Elsworth, born April 8, 1900 and Leslie, born Oct. 30, 1902.

 (b) Helen Lucinda, born March 27, 1876; died April 22, 1876.

 (c)Hermon Sampson, born March 13, 1878; married June 23, 1902, Florence

Buckley. They have two children: Mildred born March 3, 1903, and Dana, born Feb. 24, 1908.

 4.Emily Frances, born Oct.29, 1847.

 5. Jonas Prescott, born April 21, 1849; married Martha Louise Holman; died

Dec. 15, 1907. They had two children: Mildred, born Nov.11, 1893, and Earl Isaac, born Sept. 15, 1895

 6. Jane Wellington, born March 22, 1851; married March 24, 1874, Thomas

Tivnin; he died Feb. 18, 1888.

 II. JOSIAH DAVIS, born Nov. 7, 1818; married Dec. 5, 1842, Lucy Day Chapin,

of Springfield, Mass.; born Dec.21, 1818; he died Feb. 5, 1902

   Children of Lucy and Josiah D. Whitney:

 1.Lucy Jane, born June 13, 1844, unmarried.

 2.Edwin Day, born April 4, 1856; married Julia Spring Brooks, born March

22, 1857; died December, 1911; residence, Brattleboro, Vt. Their children were: Harold Edward, born Feb. 29, 1884; Edwina Augusta, born Aug. 18, 1885; Alice Lucy, born April 5, 1887; Merrill Brooks, born May 26, 1891.

 III. MARY ANN, born Nov. 17, 1820; married May, 1843, James A Mansfield;

she died in November 1885.

   Children of Mary Ann and James A. Mansfield:

 1. Lorinda Elizabeth, born August, 1844; married John A. Merrill.

       2. Ann Maria, Married Thomas Wood

 IV. Jonas, born March 30, 1824

 V. Andrew, born Feb. 28, 1826

 VI. Clara, born May 6, 1828

 VII. Sarah, born Oct.14, 1830

 VIII. Ellen, born June 11, 1832

 IX. Milo, born May 16, 1834

 X. Julius, born May 28, 1836

 My research of the Whitney Family does not progress beyond  Ann Maria Wood

and Thomas Jefferson Wood. They were my wife's great grand parents and I'm looking for information on Thomas. Hope this helps more than it confuses.

Regards to all, Herb Phelps [email protected]

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From: Marion Leska <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Some miscellaneous Whitneys Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 22:48:12 -0500 Sender: [email protected]

A few notes I made a few years ago just came to light and I thought I'd copy them for you all in the hopes that they might add some information for someone.

From: Annals of Warren"(Maine) "Annals of the Town of Warren in Knox County, Maine with the Early History of St. Georges, Broad Bay, etc. by Cyrus Eaton. A.M." p646 WHITNEY, John, b. in Lincoln,Mass. in 1777, came from Union to Warren in 1819, m. Lydia RUSSELL; resided Warren, near Mt. Pleasant and died Nov 6, 1851. Their children: 1. John (2nd) m. Jane Keff (or Kiff --I can't ALWAYS read my own writing)resided Centreville,RI. 2. James, b. 1 Sept 1813; m. Belinda S. (Orff)Day, 22 Feb 1852, resided NE Warren. 3. Russell, b. Jan 1816, m. Henrietta L. McKellar of Camden, 26 Sept 1852 and d. 22 Nov 1859. James' Children:

    1. Lavinia E. b.20 Mar 1855 in Warren

Russell's Children:

    1. Lydia J. b. Nov and d. Dec 1853
    2. Alden R. b. 14 Feb 1855, in Warren

Lydia RUSSELL, wife of John WHITNEY b. ab 1779 resided Warren and d. June 1858, dau of Levi RUSSELL of Plymouth, Mass, probably of English Puritan descent, served as a soldier in the war of the Revolution; m. Hannah SIMMONS of Duxbury, Mass, settled and resided and died in Waldoboro."

I have a few more notes to copy and will get to them. Marion Leska

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From: "Patricia A. Whitney-Jones" <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 15:42:22 Sender: [email protected]

After recently downloading a file from Jeanne Whitney Muse's home page named "johnwhit" and e-mailed her asking: > >I'm new at this tracking of my ancestors. I have signed on the Whitney Surname Discussion Group and am currently beginning to research. I found your home page and my husband recently downloaded the "johnwhit" database for me. > >Referring to: > >John Whitney + Elinor (Ellen) _____? > Richard Whitney (1623/24-1719) + Martha Coldam (Abt 1626) > Ebenezer Whitney (1627-1727) + Anna _____? (Abt 1674-1758) > >--you do not have Enoch (b) 1708? listed as a sibling of Zachariah, Ezekiel, and Esther. Enoch is the route my family tree travels. Do you know why Enoch is not there?

Maybe its just premature. I should just keep watching/reading the e-mails, download more of Jeanne's files, and generally just...research. But, I wonder if any of you knows why Enoch may not be listed. Robert had it in his information.

Thanks...and I really, really enjoy reading all of e-mail you all post. It's absolutely great.

• Tricia*

> Patricia Whitney-Jones [email protected] (home-my primary e-mail) [email protected] (work) [email protected] (home)

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: My WHITNEY Line Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 11:12:12 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

I still have a gap in my Whitney lineage, but here is what I think my line is:

1--John WHITNEY (1589-1673) m. Elinor (1599-1659)

   2--Benjamin WHITNEY (1643-1723) m. Jane (1647-1690)
       3--John WHITNEY (b. 1678) m. Letty FORD (b. 1680)
           4--Benjamin WHITNEY(1727-1797) m. Mercy HINCKLEY (1734-1814)
                      This Benjamin settled in Little River, Lisbon, ME--
                      His sons were Abraham (b. 1752), Isaac,  Jacob (b.

1763), Nathan (b. abt 1768), Benjamin, Joseph, Samuel (b. 1774)

My biggest problem -- whose son is my 5G Grandfather Aaron WHITNEY (b. 10 Sep 1774 near Lisbon or Lewiston, ME??) My line from Aaron goes thus: 1--Aaron WHITNEY (1774-abt 1850) m. Betsey HILDRETH (1775-1819)

   2--Reliance Small WHITNEY (1803-1845) m. Manoah HARRIMAN
       3--Sarah Whitney HARRIMAN (1833-1920) m. Isaac Low WRIGHT (1825-abt.

1910)

           4--Sarah Evelyn WRIGHT (1855-1931) m. John Tyler PRENTICE (b.

1855)

Hope to hear from anyone researching Benjamin (b. 1727) or any of his sons!

Evelyn Brown

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From: [email protected] (Jan Whitaker) To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: NC Whitneys Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 20:05:39 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Dear Michael and Cousins, I have the following line that leads to NC Whitneys John-4 WHITNEY(Isaiah, Thomas, John) and Rebeckah-4 WHITNEY(Moses, Richard, John)

  Abner-5 WHITNEY and Sarah HILTON
   Abner-6 WHITNEY and Polly ?
    Abner Didymus-7 WHITNEY
    William Didymus-7 WHITNEY
    Joshua Paine-7 WHITNEY
    Franklin-7 WHITNEY
    Sally Hilton-7 WHITNEY and unknown WILLIAMS

Abner-6 information was found in the"Year Book, Pasquotank Historical Society, Volume 3, section 3,abstracts of wills ca 1687-1860" page 299 and begins"WHITNEY, Abner-Book M, Page 221-September 1810". His name also appears in the same book on page 280 in the abstract of the will of Polly SMITHSON, it reads:SMITHSON, Polly-Book N, page 50-19 April 1829 Daughter Sally H. Williams; sons Abner D., Franklin, William D., Joshua P. Whitney.

       It would be great if someone could pick them up and carry this line

further! Pierce said he served in the Revolutionary War and settled down there so I found this info on the 'net with "Books We Own". Jan

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From: Ron & Marsha Bokleman <[email protected]>

To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: My family Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 20:12:53 -0500 Sender: [email protected]

Here is my list of descendants from John and Elinor to myself.

1. John and Elinor Whitney 9 children.

 2. Benjamin Whitney b June 16, 1643 Watertown m. Jane Poor,

10 children.

  3. John Whitney b 1678 York, Maine m. Lettice Ford, 8 children.

    4. Samuel Whitney b May 5, 1707 York, Maine m. Lydia Spooner,
       8 children.

      5. Samuel Whitney b. Sept 15, 1731, Brunswick, Maine m.

Mary Aston, 1 child.

        6. Ebenezer Whitney b. 1762 Brunswick, Maine m. Mehitable ?
           9 children.

           7. Thomas Clinton Whitney b Feb 8, 1809 Etna, Maine

m. Hepsabeth Brown , 7 children.

              8. Leander Shepherd Whitney b. Etna, Maine 1853 , m.

Lucy Lila Thornton, 9 children.

                9. Thomas Roland Whitney b. April 16, 1892

Bowdoin, Maine m. Lettie Thompson, 11 children.

                  10. Thomas Leander Whitney b. June 11, 1918

Augusta, Maine m. Daphne Warriner Divoll, 3 children.

                      11. Marsha Vivian Whitney Bokleman b.

Boston, Massachusetts.(myself)Married, 3 children and 3 grandchildren.

My most wanted at this point is the name of my maternal gr. grandparents, (parents of Edna Richards Clark Divoll). Edna used 2 maiden names 3 if you count her first marriage name. Checked to see if perhaps she was married 3 times, records say a big NO. Her father was listed as E.J. Richards, mother unknown and also as George Clark. Edna was born in Boston, but archives reveal nothing.

My other missing areas are the other children of Samuel and Mary Aston, and the surname of Mehitable wife of # 6. I know I have other missing dates etc. but that is it for now.

Thanks for all the help. Am willing to share anything I have. MVB.

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From: Craig Beeman <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Our Family's WHITNEY Line of Descent Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 01:12:09 -0500 Sender: [email protected]

If my research efforts, and that of other researchers over the past three hundred years hold up, this is our family's WHITNEY Line of Descent:

1-- John WHITNEY- (1589-1673)

sp-Elinor-(1605-1673)
   2-- John WHITNEY- (1624-1692)
    sp-Ruth REYNOLDS-
       3-- Ruth WHITNEY- (1645)
        sp-Enos LAWRENCE- (1648-1744)
           4-- Zachariah LAWRENCE- (1683-1754)
            sp-Abigail BLOOD- (1677-1740)
               5-- Abigail LAWRENCE- (1718-1758)
                sp-Zerubbabel KEMP- (1705-1762)
                   6-- Abigail KEMP- (1740-1787)
                    sp-William BROOKS Lt.- (1737-1804)
                       7-- Samuel F. BROOKS- (1774-1850)
                        sp-Hannah BENNETT- (1778-1850)
                           8-- Mark F. BROOKS- (1811-1860)
                            sp-Mary Catharine WILCOX- (1804-1856)
                               9-- Samuel Bingham BROOKS- (1836-1911)
                                sp- Samantha E. GARWOOD- (1842-1923)
                                   10--Ida Adelia BROOKS- (1869-1944)
                                    sp-- George Noah CRAIG(1866-1956)
                                       11---George Bingham CRAIG-(1895-1975)
                                        sp- Ada Bell DORY- (1901-1969)
                                           12---Betty Lou CRAIG-(1928)
                                             sp- Richard Norman BEEMAN-(1928)
                                                13---Craig Steven BEEMAN-(1948)
                                                  sp- Janice Marie

LEFFERT-(1950)

Please note that any and all input, will be most sincerely appreciated.

Thank you.

TTYL

Craig

Craig BEEMAN 518 N. 24th St. Joseph, MO 64501 ph. (816)233-0884

           In Search of Immigrant Ancestors and their Descendants
      for the more than 325 Ancestral Family Surnames that our family
                    descends from between 1617 and 1838.
                            Internet: [email protected]

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From: "J. Michael Poston" <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Stray Whitneys in Ohio Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 08:46:42 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

I found these references to some Whitneys in a recent visit to the Library of Congress:

[Esther Weyganat Powell, compiler, "Early Ohio Tax Records," Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., Baltimore, 1985]

Whitney, Elisha, on 1800 tax list for Washington County Whitney, Elisha, on 1814 tax records for Gallia County, "Original

    Proprietor"

Whitney, Eunice, owned land in 1825 in Hocking County Whitney, Daniel, on the Poll Book for 1824, Huron County Whitney, Nathan, on the Poll Book for 1824, Huron County Whitney, Nathan, Jr., on the Poll Book for 1824, Huron County Whitney, Jabez, on the 1816 tax list for Meigs County

Jabez is mine, but I don't know about the others. Jabez comes from Maine (b. 1780, married 1804 in Chesterville "of North Yarmouth"). Anybody have him lurking among your lists of siblings?

Mike Poston Rockville, MD [email protected]

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From: Wulf Losee <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Whitney ancestors... Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 06:10:47 -0800 Sender: [email protected]

Here are my Whitney's. I notice that except for John and Elinor, I haven't spent much time on my Whitney ancestors (shame on me!). If anyone can fill in any blanks, I would be much obliged.

--Wulf

1. John and Elinor (nee?) Whitney

  2a. Thomas and Mary (Kedall/Kettle) Whitney
      3a. Isaiah and Sarah (nee?) Whitney
    4a. Sarah (Whitney) and Andrew Parker
  2b. John (ii) and Ruth (Reynolds) Whitney
      3b. Sarah (Whitney) and Daniel Harrington

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Eli Whitney decendants of Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 12:26:15 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Would like access to any available lists of descendants of Eli Whitney -- and/or Family Histories

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]>

Subject: Re:Stray Whitneys in Ohio Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 00:17:35 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

[email protected] (J. Michael Poston) wrote: I found these references to some Whitneys in a recent visit to the Library of Congress:

[Esther Weyganat Powell, compiler, "Early Ohio Tax Records," Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., Baltimore, 1985]

Whitney, Elisha, on 1800 tax list for Washington County Whitney, Elisha, on 1814 tax records for Gallia County, "Original

    Proprietor"

Whitney, Eunice, owned land in 1825 in Hocking County Whitney, Daniel, on the Poll Book for 1824, Huron County Whitney, Nathan, on the Poll Book for 1824, Huron County Whitney, Nathan, Jr., on the Poll Book for 1824, Huron County Whitney, Jabez, on the 1816 tax list for Meigs County .............................................................................. .........................................

I, too, have a stray Whitney in OH, besides the ones you mentioned. Glad to have some company in this state.

James Whitney of Marietta: 1822 Tax Duplicates, Washington Co, m. Ruth Greene of

      Newport, 14 Nov 1807  ( Probate Court, Vol 1, page 56)

John Whitney of Waterford: 1830, 1831, 1832 Tax Duplicates, Washington Co; m.

      Sarah Chapman of Waterford, March 1821 ( Probate Court, Vol 1, page

118)

Thomas Whitney of Waterford: 1830 and 1831 Tax Duplicates Washington Co.; m.

     Artimacy Preston of Waterford , 21 Oct. 1820 (Probate Court Vol. 1 page

117);

     m. Hannah Preston, 13 Jul 1826 (Probate Court Vol. 1 page 172)

John and Thomas are my relatives, but who is James related to? He had a good reputation as a shipbuilder in Marietta, Washington Co., OH in the 1810s and 1820s.

Sandy

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From: Peg Sanborn <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Whitney resources Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 17:11:13 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

WRG,

I was able to spend a quick hour at the library today. The only thing I accomplished was to look up Whitney in a couple of Genealogical indexes. Below is listed the names of books, with the page numbers, of Whitney information. I haven't a clue what information is in these books, or what books are garbage or not. I'll just list them and you all can decide.

Also, for my latest project I have started to index these VR's. It will be very simple, just the name, event(i.e. birth, marr,etc.) and the town it is listed in. All spelling variations will be listed.

Now I'm not nagging-OK so I am- but I'm still looking for the Vr's of the following towns Roxbury and Westboro. If they have been sent, please resend them to me. I would like to include these in the index. So far I've indexed through the "c's" and it is 10 pages long. I won't be sending that to the group!

Now here is a list of the refrences that contain Whitney info. Allen's Worcester 90-2 American Ancestry v,118,120,161; viii,129; ix,40,107 Aylsworth Genealogy 241 Ballou's History of Milford MA 1112-21 Barry's History of Framingham MA. 426 Bemis' Hist. of Marboro NH 693 Blake's Hist of Hamden CT 281-311 Bolton Genealogy 39-42 Bond's Watertown MA 348,642-52 Browning's Magna Charta Barons 251 Butler's Hist. Groton MA 444,481,497 Chandler's Hist. Shirley MA 667-75 Cochrane's Hist Francestown NH 979 Cogswell's Hist. Henniker NH 780-4 Daniels' Hist. Oxford MA 743 Draper's Hist. Spencer MA 264 Dwight Gen 832 Eaton's Hist. Thomaston ME ii 460 Hall's Hist. Norwalk CT 189,192-9 Hamden CT History 281-311 Hayward's Hist. Gilsum NH 416 Hemenway's Vermont Gaz. v.162,444 Heywood's Hist. Westminster MA 917-31 Herrick's Hist.Gardner MA 387-9 Hubbard's Hist. Springfield VT 501-5 Hudson's Hist. Lexington MA 264 Hudson's Hist. Marlborough MA 466-8 Huntington's Stamford CT. Settlers 135 Jackson's Hist. Newton Ma 463 Joslin's Hist. Poultney VT 364 Lapham's Hist. Norway ME 623 Leland Gen. 59,196,261-4 Lincoln's Hist Hingham MA iii 288 Livermore's Hist. Wilton NH 522 Locke Gen. 75 Marvin's Hist. Winchendon MA 473-5 Montague Gen. 483-5 Morse's Sherborn MA Settlers 257-60 N.E. Reg, xi 113-21, 225-30; xii 215-9 Norton's Hist. Fitzwilliam NH 770-2 Orcutt's Hist. Derby CT 777-80 Orcutt's Hist. Stratford CT 1345 Peck's Rochester NY Centennial 675 Petersham MA Centen 107 Phelps W. Simsbury CT Settlers 136 Pierce's Hist. Gorham ME 219 Pierce's Hist. Grafton MA 602 Ridlon's Harrison ME Settlers 134-8 Savage's Gen Dict. iv 528-32 Sawtell's Hist. Townsend MA 448-55 Sheldon's Hist. Deerfield MA 371 Sinclair Genealogy 245-7 Stearn's Hist. Ashburnham MA 957-71 Stearn's Hist. Rindge NH 756-62 Temple's Hist. Northfield MA 564 Thurston's Hist. Winthrop ME 201 Tucker's Hist. Hartford VT 475 Tuttle Gen. 113 Ward's Hist. Shrewsbury MA 474-7 Westminster MA Centen. 23,34 Wheeler's Hist. Brunswick ME 860 Wheeler's Newport NH 571-3 Whitney Fam. of Watertown(18570 26 pages Whitney Fam of Boston (1858) 7 pages Whitney Fam in England (1859) 11 pages Whitney Fam of Boston (1860) 142 pages Whitney Fam of Conn (1878) 2762 pages Whitney Fam of Watertown (1890) 101 pages Whitney Fam of Watertown (1895) 692 pages Whitney Ancestry in Eng. (1896) 295 pages Whitney Fam of Watertown (1898) 156 pages

Again, I have no clue on what these books are or what is in them. Just thought I'd pass the info along.

Peg

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Assorted MA Whitney Vital Records, Part VII Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 01:45:07 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Dear WRG:

For those of you who are keeping your own, self-printed copies of the MA VR's in a notebook, I now have another set available for transmission as an attachment. These are done in ASCII format (.txt), and can be imported into any word processor and printed for easy reference. For those of you who are new to the list, if you would like to find out what is available in the earlier distributions, please drop me a note and I'll be glad to list them for you.

Assorted MA Whitney Vital Records, Part VII includes: Nantucket, New Salem, Newbury, Pelham, Pembroke, Pepperell, Phillipston, Princeton, Reading, Rochester, Salem, Salisbury, Sandisfield, Scituate, Sharon, Shirley, Shrewsbury, Southborough, Spencer, Stoneham, Tewksbury & Tisbury.

If you would like a copy of these, drop me a note.

Happy Hunting:-)

Allan E. Green <[email protected]>

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Assorted MA Whitney Vital Records, Part VII Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 01:45:46 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Dear WRG:

For those of you who are keeping your own, self-printed copies of the MA VR's in a notebook, I now have another set available for transmission as an attachment. These are done in ASCII format (.txt), and can be imported into any word processor and printed for easy reference. For those of you who are new to the list, if you would like to find out what is available in the earlier distributions, please drop me a note and I'll be glad to list them for you.

Assorted MA Whitney Vital Records, Part VII includes: Nantucket, New Salem, Newbury, Pelham, Pembroke, Pepperell, Phillipston, Princeton, Reading, Rochester, Salem, Salisbury, Sandisfield, Scituate, Sharon, Shirley, Shrewsbury, Southborough, Spencer, Stoneham, Tewksbury & Tisbury.

If you would like a copy of these, drop me a note.

Happy Hunting:-)

Allan E. Green <[email protected]>

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: Whitney-Riehl Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 23:48:43 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Dear Jerry:

In the Melville, it suggests that there was a branch of the Hereford Whitneys who went to Ireland way back. On pp 44-45 a John de Whittenye who "goes frequently into Ireland" was mentioned with dates attached as 1252 and 1272, and Melville goes on to mention a family of Whitneys "of high standing" in Queens County, Ireland, of which this John might be the founder. Now this is all somewhat vague, but I have also seen isolated references to Irish Whitneys over the years, but not paid much attention to them, as they were not from what is considered the "main line".

It would seem possible that this family whose history you cite and whose removal to North America is also mentioned may well be descendants of this earlier Whitney family shown above. Lots of room here for someone to step in as a researcher - and we might just find a source for one or more of our "unconnected" Whitneys.

Thanks for the information, which I'll print out and stash in a separate folder for Irish ancestors of the Whitney family here in this country.

Allan E. Green <[email protected]>

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Zerah WHITNEY-Ezra WHITNEY Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 17:04:34 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

I am a beginning genealogist. I have extensive family records that go back to my greatx5 grandfather, Ezra WHITNEY b.29 July 1815, and his wife, Hannah DEPUY. I have just confirmed that this Ezra WHITNEY, this same man, buried in Bradley, Mich.d 1899, is the end of a long Whitney line in your index! His father was ZERAH WHITNEY, and my sister has a picture of his grave. We always thought it was short for Zecariah. My family has all the records of all the siblings of this man, many pictures, and all his descendants since 1843, all their wives and kids. Is anyone interested in any of these records? I don't know much about GENDEX, but it's nice to find my greatx5 grandad. Who did all this research? I didn't know any of this past EZRA WHITNEY, but I know most everything up to Ezra, his son, Leonard and his wife, Hannah, and all the kids since. How can I add these long lost Whitney's to your index? My email is

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Fwd: Petersham marriage error? Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:55:49 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Dear WRG:

Would the person who did the Petersham VR's please contact me about the question I asked Mike (in the mistaken belief that he was the one who had contributed the Petersham listings). Everything is fine except for the one entry, which looks incomplete to me.

Allan

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Forwarded message: Subj: Re: Petersham marriage error? Date: 97-03-12 15:05:03 EST From: WhitneyMR To: ALLAGREEN

In a message dated 97-03-09 01:37:56 EST, you write:

<< Dear Mike:

Would you check the pages for Petersham for a marriage which appears as

follows in what you sent me.

Betsey of John Bowker, Nov. 10, 1814
This looks incomplete.  Either the of "town" is not given, or the "of"

should be an "and" >>

Sorry Allan I don't have that. Might as well post to the list to see who does.

Bye, Michael Whitney

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From: Peg Sanborn <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Chat room Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 20:58:04 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

WRG,

Brenda raised the question of the possibility of a chat room. Barb Oliver has a home page, called "Trees" that includes chat rooms. She has a spot for a Whitney chat room, but it needs a moderator, to set up the day and time,etc. I really don't know too much about it, the page address is (Barb-correct me if I'm wrong!) http://ppp1.primecomm.net/trees/ I beleive she is on our list, and you can also contact her through the home page. This would be awesome if someone would take it on, we could all talk to each other... Peg

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Barbara Black's Whitney Line Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 15:34:25 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

I am slow in sending this. The first part is speculation built from family oral history. 1 John and Elinore

 2. Deacon Joshua Whitney b. 1635 m. Abigail Tarbell
    3. William b. 1678 m. Lydia Perkam
    4. Joshua b. 1714
   5. Benjamin b. 1755 m. Amy Blogett
      6. Aaron b. 1798 in  NY (War of 1812) m. Sarah Bennett of Mina, NY
       (2nd  wife Electa Leach)

End of speculation###### I have proof of the rest of this.

     7. Daniel R. Whitney b. 1822 m. Isaphena Dow
         8. Rosina Whitney b. 1851 m. John Newton Crowder
        9. John Hershel Crowder b. 1887 m Elsie May Jenkins
         10. Barbara  Rose Crowder b. 1922 m. Estel Eugene Black
                       (Gene) b. 1921
           11. Estel Eugene Black Jr. (Gene)  b. 1948-d. 1993.
                m. Leslie Stanton.

My most wanted is the True father of DANIEL R. WHITNEY. On the Michigan 1850 census DANIEL R. WHITNEY (age 27) and Isaphena lived near an ISRAEL WHITNEY (age 30) wife Melissa.

 On  the marriage record of DANIEL R. WHITNEY and ISAPHENA DOW IN 1847 in

Jackson, Michigan the witness was an ISRAEL WHITNEY. My grandmother Rosina was b. 1851 in Jackson.

 Daniel R. Whitney's  death certificate (age 90) had no pertinent

information.

This elusive Unknown Professor Whitney (according to family record) went to Michigan to establish schools in Battle Creek and Sandusky. We thought they were both in Michigan. Since Sandusky Ohio is closer to Battle Creek and Daniel was born in Ohio , I have come to the conclusion that perhaps the father was connected with the schools in Sandusky, Ohio.

 A researcher in Battle Creek Michigan, sent me an article about  Norman S.

Whitney. with a brother -Daniel R. Whitney. His parents were Norman K. Whitney and Mary Pratt (both natives of New England).. (Our family say the mother was a Bennett)

 The only other place we have seen the Daniel R. was in Wi. where the Whitney

had a nephew Daniel R. ran a branch of his furniture store.

 Neither of these fits well-could be possibilities and I will follow up on

them. DANIEL R. WHITNEY's parents names are my MOST WANTED information.

 Barbara Crowder Black.

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]>

Subject: "Our" Whitney Genealogy Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:02:37 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

If this turns out to be a duplication, please forgive me, but I posted it two weeks ago and it has not shown up on my screen, so will try again.

My husband, Donald Benson's Whitney line is as follows: John and Elinor (----)

  John & Ruth Reynolds
      Elizabeth and Daniel Warren
        Deliverance Warren and Josiah Coolidge
           Nathaniel Coolidge and Sarah Parker
              Susanna Coolidge and Lot Jennison
                 Isaac Jennison and Mary Felch
                    Charles W. Jennison and Sabra Loker
                       Charles A. Jennison and Nora Leona Baldwin
                          Gladys Sabra Jennison and Leon C. Benson
                              Donald D. Benson

My line, Anne Swanson Benson, is barely connected, but believe thanks to Allan and Jon I have a fit this week. perhaps Abraham Whitney & ???

               Mary Whitney b 1726 in Stow and Silas Jewell
                   Eunice Jewell and Ephraim Maynard
                      Levi Maynard Sr. and Lydia Stow
                          Levi Maynard Jr and Calista Cleveland
                               Curtis Maynard and Caroline Hooper
                                   Lucretia Maynard and John Rowan
                                      Jessie Rowan and John Lars Peterson
                                          Iona Peterson and Oscar Swanson
                                    (me)   Anne Swanson Benson

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From: Barry GeneDoctor Whitney <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Mason, Erastus, Seymour & Kin Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:32:08 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

My Whitney line:

John Whitney b. England 1589 d. 6/1/1673 + Elinor __ b. 1599

  Johnathan Whitney b. England 1634 m. 10/30/1656 d. 1702
  + Lydia Jones
     John Whitney b. 6/27/1662 m. 4/10/1688 d. 1735
     + Mary Hapgood
        Dea. James-4 Whitney b. 12/28/1692 m. 2/2/1715 d. 4/10/1770
        + Martha Rice
           Dea. Micah-5 Whitney b. 6/4/1725 m. 1747 d. 11/29/1791
           + Lydia Mason
              Mason-6 Whitney b. 12/16/1765  d. 1802
              + Dolly Rawson
                 Erastus-7 Whitney b. 7/13/1797
                                   m. 6/4/1826 d. 10/16/1854
                 + Betsy Chadwick b. 4/8/1805  d. 9/3/1872
                    Seymour-8 M. Whitney b 1/16/1829
                                         m 12/31/1868 d 8/26/1900
                    + Sarah (Sallie) Jane Barry b. 6/2/1838 d 1/8/1924
                       John-9 Barry Whitney b. 6/29/1879 d 11/4/1957
                       + Isabella Coskery Jordan b. 8/2/1884
                                                 d. 5/17/1977
                          John-10 Barry Whitney b. 6/25/1916
                                                d. 12/27/1995
                          + Ruth Lois Krehl b. 5/22/1915 d. 1/1993
                             John Barry-11 Whitney, yours truly  8^)

My most wanted--help on:

Mason-6, Erastus-7, and Seymour-8,

Especially including:

sources, siblings, other descendants, Mason-6's (or Erastus-7's) move from Massachusetts to Philadelphia (NY, not PA), and Seymour-8's move to Atlanta then to Augusta, GA.

BTW, Philadelphia, NY, is around 20 mi NE of Watertown, also NY, inland from the NE end of Lake Ontario--Aren't Yahoo/Proximus maps wonderful!!

Erastus-7 had daughters Marion (and/or Mariah) and Eliza and sons Seymour-8, Duane (he or an unnamed brother died for the US in the civil war), "Sell," and George Erastus Whitney. Seymour-8 moved south before the civil war and corresponded with George from Elberton, GA. George evidently lived in Augusta, GA, after the war and died there on 8/29/1913. Marion's married name in Philadelphia, NY, was Marion Taggert.

Mason-6 and Erastus-7 were in business in Philadelphia, NY, with a Chauncy Whitney, and I would like information on Chauncy also.

Seymour-8 had six or seven sons, at least two of whom moved to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and lived there in 1925. Edward, Frank, Seymour are probable names of the Pennsylvania sons. Edward supposedly had at least two sons. Another of Seymour-8's sons Alex died a young man in 1900.

Two of Seymour-8's sons, Charles Erastus Whitney and John Barry Whitney, have current Whitney descendants living in the Carolinas, GA, NH, ME, & TX.

What if any is the commonality of the two Watertowns--MA and NY? What if any is the commonality of the two Philadelphias (NY and PA)?

Thanks for any assistance you may be able to give.

Yours, Barry

John Barry-11 Whitney III North Augusta, SC

[email protected]

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From: [email protected] (Richard G. Smith) To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: MY WHITNEY LINE Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 14:06:39 PST Sender: [email protected]

I sent this previously but did not see it come through so I am resending it. Please forgive me if you get it twice.

As per Mike's request, here is my WHITNEY line of descent:

John WHITNEY  and Elinor
 John WHITNEY, Jr. and Ruth REYNOLDS
  Benjamin WHITNEY and Abigail HAGAR
   Ensign David WHITNEY and Rebecca FILLEBROWN
    Jonas WHITNEY and Sarah WHITTEMORE
     Jonas WHITNEY and Betsey RAYMOND
      John PERKINS and Polly Everett WHITNEY
       Harrison PERKINS and Almira HOAR
        Myra Adelia PERKINS and Charles Henry SMITH
         Ernest Charles SMITH and Mildred Irene CLARK
          Charles Ernest SMITH
          Richard George SMITH

My most pressing problem is proof of death for John and Polly (WHITNEY) PERKINS.

John was born 25 Feb 1789 at Leominster, MA and died at Morris, IL 3 Nov 1868. He married Polly on 6 Feb 1816. He was the son of Benjamin and Lydia (Hawkes) Perkins.

Polly was born 25 Oct 1792 at Westminster, MA, and died at Morris, IL 10 Aug 1874. She was the daughter of Jonas and Betsy (Raymond) Whitney.

I need this proof to complete my SAR application. Morris, IL does not have death records prior to 1878.

I also have a Mary WHITNEY (ca1732-1826) who married Jonathan SAWIN (1735-1822). She was born and married at Worcester, MA and died at Westminster, MA. I have no idea who her parents were.

I have only been a member of this group for about a month and I have been much impressed with the material that I see and everyone's willingness to help each other.

Thanks for your help.

Dick Smith [email protected]

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From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: "Our" Whitney Genealogy Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 19:02:25 -0500 Sender: [email protected]

At 04:02 PM 3/15/97 -0500, you wrote: >My line, Anne Swanson Benson, is barely connected, but believe thanks to >Allan and Jon I have a fit this week. >perhaps Abraham Whitney & ??? > Mary Whitney b 1726 in Stow and Silas Jewell > Eunice Jewell and Ephraim Maynard > Levi Maynard Sr. and Lydia Stow > Levi Maynard Jr and Calista Cleveland > Curtis Maynard and Caroline Hooper > Lucretia Maynard and John Rowan > Jessie Rowan and John Lars Peterson > Iona Peterson and Oscar Swanson > (me) Anne Swanson Benson >

The will of Abraham WHITNEY, dated 13 May 1768, Stow, MA, mentions, among many others, his son-in-law and daughter Silas and Mary JEWELL, and his wife Elizabeth [Middlesex Co. Probate Records, File #24599].

He married firstly about 1715, Mary STONE, dau. of Simon STONE and Sarah FARNSWORTH, and secondly, 16 Jul 1676, Stow, MA [Stow VR], Elizabeth (FARLEY) SHED, b. 28 Mar 1704, who had m. 6 Sep 1724, Billerica, MA [Harvard VR] John SHED.

His daughter Mary was born 28 Oct 1729, Stow, MA [Stow VR].

This was Abraham-4 WHITNEY (Moses-3, Richard-2, John-1). For more details, see my website, URL given below.

I hope this helps.

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif">

http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 19:02:25 -0500 To: [email protected], [email protected] From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: "Our" Whitney Genealogy

At 04:02 PM 3/15/97 -0500, you wrote: >My line, Anne Swanson Benson, is barely connected, but believe thanks to >Allan and Jon I have a fit this week. >perhaps Abraham Whitney & ??? > Mary Whitney b 1726 in Stow and Silas Jewell > Eunice Jewell and Ephraim Maynard > Levi Maynard Sr. and Lydia Stow > Levi Maynard Jr and Calista Cleveland > Curtis Maynard and Caroline Hooper > Lucretia Maynard and John Rowan > Jessie Rowan and John Lars Peterson > Iona Peterson and Oscar Swanson > (me) Anne Swanson Benson >

The will of Abraham WHITNEY, dated 13 May 1768, Stow, MA, mentions, among many others, his son-in-law and daughter Silas and Mary JEWELL, and his wife Elizabeth [Middlesex Co. Probate Records, File #24599].

He married firstly about 1715, Mary STONE, dau. of Simon STONE and Sarah FARNSWORTH, and secondly, 16 Jul 1676, Stow, MA [Stow VR], Elizabeth (FARLEY) SHED, b. 28 Mar 1704, who had m. 6 Sep 1724, Billerica, MA [Harvard VR] John SHED.

His daughter Mary was born 28 Oct 1729, Stow, MA [Stow VR].

This was Abraham-4 WHITNEY (Moses-3, Richard-2, John-1). For more details, see my website, URL given below.

I hope this helps.

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

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From: Susan Shannon <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: My Whitney Line Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 22:20:06 -0500 Sender: [email protected]

Here's 'my' list.

John and Elinor Whitney

  Richard and Martha Coldham Whitney
     Richard and Elizabeth Sawtell Whitney
        Richard and Hannah Whitcomb Whitney
           Josiah and Sarah Dwelly Whitney
              Lemuel and Elizabeth Hall Whitney
                 Josiah and Betsy Whitney Derby
                    Lewis and Sarah Derby Morse
                       Ernest and Fannie Morse Hill
                          Norman and Mildred Drowne Hill

Sue

+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+

Susan Shannon Orlando, FL

+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: My Most Wanted Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 06:06:52 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Hi WRG,

Sorry to be so slow, but have finally taken a break from re-doing my 'new' old house to send my most wanted (and currently end-of-line):

Like Mike Poston, who kindly sent me much of this information, I'm looking for the parents of Jabez Whitney b. 22 March 1780 somewhere in Maine.

1-- Jabez WHITNEY-1344 (1780-1839)

sp-Abigail Milk WHEELER-1340 (1784-1870)
   2-- Joseph I. WHITNEY-1401 (1806)
   2-- Lydia WHITNEY-1450 (1806-1860)
    sp-Philander CASTLE-346 (1799-1886)
       3-- Giles CASTLE-1334 (1828)
       3-- George W. CASTLE-1335 (1830)
       3-- Lucinda CASTLE-1336 (1832)
            sp-Richard POSTON-1382
       3-- Rial CASTLE-348 (1834)
       3-- Prudence CASTLE-349 (1836-1930)
            sp-Charles A. EASUM-353
       3-- Whitney CASTLE-350 (1839-1862)
       3-- Anson M. CASTLE-351 (1841)
            sp-Elizabeth MEATHERINGHAM-354
            sp-Jennie P. BEAM-1405
       3-- William Henry CASTLE-334 (1843-1924)
            sp-Mary Elizabeth ADAMS-335 (1851-1877)
       3-- Rankin W. CASTLE-352 (1846)
            sp-Bell TROGDEN-355
            sp-Abigail HARPER-1337 (1804)
   2-- Thankful WHITNEY-1404 (1809)
         sp-John CARTWRIGHT-1380 ( -1849)
       3-- Mary CARTWRIGHT-1387
            sp-Jeremiah POSTON-1343
   2-- Lucinda WHITNEY-1339 (1810)
   2-- Mary WHITNEY-1398 (1811)
   2-- Ann WHITNEY-1296 (1812)
   2-- John WHITNEY-1342 (1819)
   2-- Ebsey WHITNEY-1370 (1820)
   2-- Miranda WHITNEY-1407 (1821)

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Revolutionary War Whitneys Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 18:02:04 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

The following is some data I picked up on the web page listed below. Hope it helps someone! Karen

Historical Register of Officers if the Continental Army During the War of the Revolution Infobases: LDS Family History Network www.familyhistory.com

Massachusetts Line Whitcomb's

Lieutenant-Colonel Josiah *Whitney*, 3d June, 1775, to -?, 1775.

 Whitney, Abner (Mass).  Private in Lexington Alarm, April, 1775; Corporal

in Gerrish's Massachusetts Regiment, May to December, 1775; Sergeant 26th Continental Infantry, I st January to 31st December, 1776-, Ensign 9th Massachusetts, I st January, 177; resigned 15th December, 1777.

Whitney, Benjamin (Vt). Lieutenant Vermont Militia in 1777 and 1778.

  Whitney, Francis (Md).  I st Lieutenant of Grayson's Continental Regiment,

28th May, 1777; retired 22d April, 1779.

        Whitney, Henry (R. 1.). Paymaster of Sherbume's Continental

Regiment, 13th November, 1777; resigned 13th April, 1779.

         Whitney, Jonathan (Conn).  1st Lieutenant 8th Connecticut,   1st

January, 1777; resigned 10th March, 1778.

         Whitney, Josiah (Mass).  Lieutenant-Colonel of Whitcomb's

Massachusetts Regiment, May to December, 1775; Colonel Mas sachusetts Militia in 1776 and 1777. (Died 1806.)

          Whitney, Joshua (Conn).  Private 3d Connecticut, 19th May to 13th

November, 1775; Sergeant in Elmore's Continental Regiment, April, 1776, to April, 1777; Sergeant 8th Connecticut, 19th April, 1777, Ensign, 3Oth December, 1777; 2d Lieutenant, 31st December, 1777 1st Lieutenant, 21st August, 1780; transferred to 5th Connecticut, 1st January, 1781 transferred to 3rd Connecticut, 1st January, 1783 - retained in Swift's Connecticut Regiment, June, 1783, and served to November, 1783.

          Whitney, Josiah (Conn).  Sergeant of Burrall's Continental

Regiment, January, 1776-, Ensign, 19th September, 1776, to January, 1777.

          Whitney, Levi (Mass).  Private in Lexington Alarm, April, 1775; I

st Lieutenant of Prescott's Massachusetts Regiment, May to December, 1775; Lieutenant Massachusetts Militia, 1777.

          Whitney, Francis (Md). 1st Lieutenant of Grayson's Continental

Regiment, 28th May, 1777; retired 22d April, 1779.

          Whitney, Henry (R. 1.), Paymaster of Sherbume's Continental

Regiment, 13th November, 1777; resigned 13th April, 1779.

          WhitneyW Jonathan (Conn). 1st Lieutenant 8th Connecticut, 1st
January, 1777; resigned 10th March, 1778.

          Whitney, Josiah (Mass).  Lieutenant-Colonel of "tcomb's

Massachusetts Regiment, May to December, 1775- Colonel Massachusetts Militia in 1776 and 1777. (Died 1806.)

    Whitney, Joshua (Conn).  Private 3d Connecticut, 19th May  to 13th

November, 1775, Sergeant in Elmore's Continental Regiment, April, 1776, to April, 1777. Sergeant 8th Connecticut, 19th April, 1777; Ensign, 30th December, 1777- 2d Lieutenant, 31st December, 1777; 1stLieutenant, 21st August, 1780; transferred to 5th Connecticut, 1st Jan uary, 178,

transferred to 3d Connecticut, 1st January, 1783 - retained in Swift's

Connecticut Regiment, June, 1783, and served to November, 1783.

           Whitney,  Josiah (Conn).  Sergeant of Burrll's Continental

Regiment, January, 1776; Ensign, 19th September, 1776, to January, 1777.

           Whitney,  Levi (Mass).  Private in Lexington Alarm, April, 1775;

1st Lieutenant of Prescott's Massachusetts Regiment, May to December, 1775,

Lieutenant Massachusetts Militia, 1777.

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Assorted MA Whitney VR's, Part VIII Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 18:35:54 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Dear WRG:

For those of you who are keeping up with the "publishing" of the Whitney MA VR's on your own and printing them for your notebooks, Part VIII of the series is now available for the asking. For those of you who are new to the list and would like a listing of what is available in previous offerings, please drop me a note directly and I'll be happy to send you a list and any of the earlier ones you want.

Assorted, Part VIII includes: Petersham, Sterling, Sutton, Townsend, Tyngsborough, Upton, Uxbridge, Walpole, Wakefield, Warren, Washington, Wayland, West Boylston, West Springfield, Webster, Weston (part One), Westport, Windsor and Winchendon.

Happy Hunting:-)

Allan E. Green <[email protected]>

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Assorted MA VR's, Part IX Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 03:25:51 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Dear WRG:

Well, Insomnia has struck again, so I finished up adding two others to the previously existing Templeton and Harvard batch, creating Assorted IX in a hurry. Available upon request.

Assorted Massachusetts Whitney Vital Records, Part IX includes: Templeton, Harvard, Woburn and Waltham

Allan E. Green <[email protected]>

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: My Whitney Line Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 05:40:03 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Attached is my Whitney line, excuse the delay, lots of computer problems and the awful AOL service has gotten me way behind in my attention to the group. I'm finally crawling back.Keep in touch

Jon AstonContent-ID: <[email protected]>

 name="ASTON.TXT"

=0D John Whitney and Elinor

Thomas Whitney and Mary Kedall or Kettle
  Isaiah Whitney and Sarah Woodward                            John Whit=

ney and Elizabeth Barnard

    Abraham Whitney and Sarah Whitney                              Sarah=
Whitney and Abraham Whitney
       Isaiah Whitney and Mary Wheeler
         Mary Hayward Whitney and Jonathan Worster
            Lucy Worster and Nathan Farr
               Mary Farr and William Healy
                   William Frederick  and Mary Jane Thomas
                      May  Leona Healy and Job Lloyd Aston
                        Jon Aston and Vivian DeGioia

=0D

I would like to know the names of Elizabeth Barnard's parents or if she w= as previously married to a man named Lee. =0DKeep in touch =0D Jon Aston =0D =--PART.BOUNDARY.0.19900.emout15.mail.aol.com.858854400--From ???@??? Thu Mar 20 17:12:23 1997

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Missing VR's Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:18:54 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Dear Jon: (and the rest of the WRG)

Before investing a lot of time in this database idea, explore it with the group because I think Peg Sanborn is also at work on the same idea. I would also think that we need to think about the structure and format of such a database, so as to enable us to transfer it among ourselves with people using different database programs and even on Mac's as well as PC's. We may need to end up with another division of labor like we did with the VR's, with everyone working from the same template and transferring files in some kind of comma delimited structure so that they can be imported by all who want to do so.

Another thought is the problem I see with the need for multiple identifications as to place with the same person. It is perfectly possible for a Whitney person (probably male) to be born in one town, married in a second, have children in a third and die in a fourth. The problem is designing the database to account for that. On the other hand, there are going to be six dozen John Whitneys, and how do we tell for sure which John Whitney it was that married Susie Smith, especially if he was from one of the towns like Harvard, with multiple Johns that were born within a time span that could be eligible for marriage to Susie (who lives in Northborough, and married a John Whitney of Harvard).

My point with this last is that we will have some people in this list that we will KNOW were the right ones married to the right woman or right man, but that information is not actually in the vital record - it's in our research or in some other sources. How do we deal with these differences in building a database?? I started out writing this just to you and decided to copy it to the whole group as I got more and more into developing my answer. I hope that we have among us some members whose use of computers in the database realm is far more sophisticated than mine. I can design a simple flat file, but we may want more than that - and I don't have the foggiest idea how to go about it or, for that matter, a database application that I would wish to offer up as a "standard"

HELP!!!

Allan

P.S. to Jon - since I can't send attachments with a message to the list, I'll send you the files you asked for with separate messages. AEG

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From: [email protected] (Jan Whitaker) To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Portland Maine Burial Records Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 16:45:32 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

For anyone interested in Maine Whitneys, I found the following in "Burial Records 1717-1962 of the Eastern Cemetery Portland, Maine" Compiled by W.B.Jordan PAGE 150-1: WHITNEY, Abner d. 14 July 1855 ae:62y. Grave site lost.

        Daniel d. 19 Sep 1850 ae:68y. Stone destroyed.- F:14[? location]
        Ellen d. 13 Aug 1861 ae:38y. Grave stone lost.
        George son of John d. 9 Aug 1855 ae:1y9m. Grave stone lost.
        Mrs Mary d. 3 May 1846 ae:81y. "Buried at head of Dr. Aaron

Porter's grave." No stone. B-1-13[? Location].

        Olive wife of Abner d. 22 Sep 1854 ae: 40y. "Buried beside Joseph

Merrill." Grave stone lost.

        Susannah C. d. 15 June 1846 ae:70y. Stone destroyed. F:13[?location]

Does anyone know who this Abner is? He's not the son of John and Rebecca of Harvard and Shirley Mass and a Rev. War Vet, nor his son who went to NC. Jan

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From: [email protected] (Jan Whitaker) To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Abel Whitney Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 16:45:37 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Dear Cousins, I have a copy of the Probate of Abel Whitney of Gorhamtown(Gorham, ME) who died on or before 27 Feb 1764. Wife was Mary Crocket Whitney, ch:Moses, Joseph, Joel, Mary, Lydia, Zebulon, Joanna, Naphtali, MICAH, Daniel, Paul & Deborah. Just cleaned out my mail and lost the name of the person to whom I sent info on Micah. If anyone wants this, I will decipher and send. Jan

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From: [email protected] (Jan Whitaker) To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]>

Subject: Abel Whitney's Probate Abstract Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:38:41 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Maine Probate Abstacts, compiled by JEFrost for NEHGS, Picton Press. York County, Volume II Page 579

1. 11/231. ABEL WHITNEY, of Gorhamtown. Commn to divide estate(11.136).

Division (11.136). Decree(11.136). Receipts(11.136). F20297. Whereas Nathaniel Whitney & Mary Crocket(late Mary Whitney), administrators of the estate of Abel Whitney, late of Gorhamtown, deceased intestate, have made up their account & application has been made for a division, court appoints 27 Feb 1764, Capt. Bryant Norton, Benjamin Skillens, Barnabas Bangs, Wentworth Stewart & George Hanscom, all of Gorhamtown, to make a division. Division by commn:To Mary Crocket late widow of Abel Whitney of Gorhamtown, deceased intestate, her dower; commn finds a 30 acre lot #17 on the Proprietors' Plan & a house on the same & gives to the widow 11 acres on the East end of the above lot(described). Having viewed the premises court finds it will not accomodate more than one son;having given & been refused to the two eldest it goes to Joel, 3rd son: 43 acres of land valued at L[pounds]41/6/8 & 2/3 of a house at L[pounds]5/6/8 which is all of the deceased's estate that can be found; all by court 1 June 1764 with Joel Whitney paying to the eldest son Moses L[pounds] 6/13/4 & to Joseph, Mary, Lydia, Zebulon, Joanna, Naphtali, Micah, Daniel, Paul & Deborah Whitney, or their legal representatives, L[pounds]3/6/8, each. Moses Whitney of Gorhamtown acknowledges receipt, 18 April 1764, from joel Whitney of 8 Pounds, being his full share in the first division of Abel Whitney's estate. Joseph Whitney of Gorhamtown acknowledges receipt, 30 May 1764, from Joel Whitney of 4 Pounds as his share of the first division of the estate of Abel Whitney.

[I don't know what commn stands for unless it is Commonwealth(Mass.) as Maine was then a province of the same. Maybe a lawyer out there could explain more. Jan]

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Whitney Data-bases Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 07:39:57 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Allan, et al . . .

I am interested in the data-base discussion, too. I would like to see something that will stay alive for others to access like the Whitney web page. Can we have a web page where all the Whitney names we have and some describing information is posted? I tried sending Whitney11 on to a new Whitney researcher but it was so large he could not use it since his email service is at a University. He could not print it nor transfer it to a disc due to it's size. Can we come up with something additional to our wonderful database [and I sincerely mean that . . . Jon has done a great job!] that might be more manageable? A way to access a specific line and not the whole data base? [I could not find his oldest ancestor in Whitney11 so just sent him the whole thing to store until he had done a little more research into his line.] That's my two cents worth . . .wish I knew more about computers, etc. I am just a user! Karen

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From: "Roger, Carolyn or Randy Winch" <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Whitney Database Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:38:53 -0600 Sender: [email protected]

Hi WRG:

Just a reminder that the Whitney11.ged file is available in a WEB database format at http://www.rootsweb.com/~gumby/genweb/Whitney/Whitney.html The database supports searches and GEDCOM file download, pedigree charts and descendency charts.

Randy Winch

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From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif">

To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Whitney Data-bases Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 19:28:33 -0500 Sender: [email protected]

At 08:34 AM 3/21/97 -0800, you wrote: >A seperate Whitney page sounds like a good idea. With each group >seperate. Everyone has sent in their line, and some have sent >descriptions of their ancestors. Why could't we have SOMEONE (I do not >know enough about it or I would volunteer) start loading up all the >info. >I have to study this one, I have some ideas, maybe I can help. I know >Henry 1620 is in there somewhere also and I am too dummy to bring up the >file so it was sent to me by snail mail, thanks again, by the way. Just >adding my 2 cents also. MAL

As I understand, what is being requested is a compilation of all the lineages of those subscribers who post them. If I am wrong, please correct me.

I'm willing to do the formatting, and host the page, with a link from my WHITNEY Family Genealogy page, at URL "http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/". I must confess that I have not saved all the lineages sent to the list. If someone would be willing to retrieve them from the archives, bundle them together, and send them to me, I will format them in HTML and post the results.

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

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From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: My Whitney Line Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 20:04:32 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

At 05:40 AM 3/20/97 -0500, you wrote: My Whitney Line: >=0D >John Whitney and Elinor > Thomas Whitney and Mary Kedall or Kettle > Isaiah Whitney and Sarah Woodward John Whit= >ney and Elizabeth Barnard > Abraham Whitney and Sarah Whitney Sarah= > Whitney and Abraham Whitney > Isaiah Whitney and Mary Wheeler > Mary Hayward Whitney and Jonathan Worster > Lucy Worster and Nathan Farr > Mary Farr and William Healy > William Frederick and Mary Jane Thomas > May Leona Healy and Job Lloyd Aston > Jon Aston and Vivian DeGioia >=0D > >I would like to know the names of Elizabeth Barnard's parents or if she w= >as previously married to a man named Lee. >=0DKeep in touch >=0D >Jon Aston

Jon,

Elizabeth BARNARD was born 29 Oct 1684, Watertown, MA, daughter of John and Elizabeth (CUTTING) BARNARD, granddaughter of John and Sarah (FLEMMING) BARNARD and of Richard and Sarah (-----) CUTTING, and great-granddaughter of John and Phebe (-----) BARNARD and John and Anne (-----) FLEMMING. The marriage record to John-4 WHITNEY [Thomas-3 and Elizabeth (LAWRENCE), Thomas-2, John-1], is dated 2 Mar 1709/10, and recorded both in Stow Vital Records and in Watertown Vital Records (see http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/stow.html and http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/watertown.html). In neither case is her name given as "LEE", but as BARNARD. This is indicative, but not definitive, that she had no previous husband.

Regards,

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

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From: Stan&MaryAnnLindsay <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: [Fwd: Re: Whitney Data-bases] Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:10:20 -0800 Sender: [email protected]

Robert L. Ward wrote: > > At 08:34 AM 3/21/97 -0800, you wrote: > >A seperate Whitney page sounds like a good idea. With each group > >seperate. Everyone has sent in their line, and some have sent > >descriptions of their ancestors. Why could't we have SOMEONE (I do not > >know enough about it or I would volunteer) start loading up all the > >info. > >I have to study this one, I have some ideas, maybe I can help. I know > >Henry 1620 is in there somewhere also and I am too dummy to bring up the > >file so it was sent to me by snail mail, thanks again, by the way. Just > >adding my 2 cents also. MAL > > As I understand, what is being requested is a compilation of all the lineages > of those subscribers who post them. If I am wrong, please correct me. > > I'm willing to do the formatting, and host the page, with a link from my WHITNEY > Family Genealogy page, at URL "http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/". I must > confess that I have not saved all the lineages sent to the list. If someone > would be willing to retrieve them from the archives, bundle them together, and > send them to me, I will format them in HTML and post the results. > > Regards, > > Robert > > Robert L. Ward > <img src="/robertward.gif">

> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ > 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 > 301-776-1659 On second thought, Robert, I think I deleted them from my mail or I would have forwarded them all. But I could copy and send to you snailmail. Any body got any other ideas? I will wait till a few more on the list give there 2 cents worth. Thanks for the help, would love to see em all on your page. MAL

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From: Stan&MaryAnnLindsay <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: [Fwd: Re: Whitney Data-bases] Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:22:29 -0800 Sender: [email protected]

[email protected] wrote: > > Dear Whitney Cousin, > > I read with interest the writings of my Whitney Cousins. I thought we had a > Whitney Home page, but the only bookmarker I have is: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gumby/cgi-bin/igmfind.cgi/n=Whitney > > I wish I had more time to help on these projects. > > David C Young We know we have other Whitney pages so how about all you sending this person your addresses. My page is: http://netdex.com/~malincal Mine is not just Whitneys tho and I am just getting started and will be adding lots more info. In meantime looks like we will have more of everyone's line on another page soon also, Right Robert? so how about sending us your Whitney info? Thanks, MAL

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Database thoughts Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 00:05:35 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Dear WRG:

I started to write this to Mary Ann Lindsay (Malincal), then was going to add Jon Aston, Peg Sanborn, Robert Ward, Karen Grubaugh and others, and finally decided to send it to everyone.

Thanks, MAL, for being willing to help with the database question. I'm not sure that what Robert Ward is so generously offering is going to actually come to grips with what some of the rest of us are considering. I "think" that what Peg and I and some others are talking about is a database taken from (or at least beginning with) the VR's and then perhaps annotating them from the marriage lists as well as from the lineages.

What I envision is a database that would include every Tom Dick and Harry Whitney known in any kind of context that then has pointers to different source points and relationship points - the latter being parents, children, siblings, locations, dates, etc., etc., etc. I don't know if I have covered everything that others have thought worth including or not, but the point (as I see it) is to have a single source that could be queried with any element - a given name, a wife's name, a place, a date span, and then get a filtered list, possibly refined by Boolean logic (that is the "a" AND "b" but NOT "c" kind of idea).

I'm afraid that this sounds like a fairly complex relational database, and I have absolutely no experience with those things. I am also fairly sure that one or more of the major software publishers out there has a database program that can handle this kind of operation, and certainly hope that someone on our list has the requisite experience to take one of these commercial database programs and design the structure necessary to do this job. I would urge such a person to understand that they would not be expected to do all the scut work of data insertion - a lot of the rest of us could volunteer to deal with that, just as we did with the VR's.

I hope that the rest of you who have written positively about this idea will jump in with your thoughts on what should be included, how it should be interrelated with links, and how it should be accessed and queried. Then we will probably be at the point where the matter of where this will reside (on what server, through whose website, etc.) can be addressed. It's likely to get pretty big, so would need a "home" with space available to allocate.

Hey, I just got a new Pentium 166 with a 2+GB hard disk installed in my office - maybe I could do it if someone could set it up for me. I think my school would let me offer the service - it's the kind of thing colleges (should) do. I might have one problem, though, as I am not "hard-wired" into the system and would not be able to offer high-speed access. They ran out of grant money for wiring the campus before they got to my building over on the far edge.

Now that I've babbled on and let my ignorance show, Robert, how does this relate to your recent kind offer? Is this exactly what you had in mind? How about the rest of you? Let's follow up on this thread for a while and see if we can come to a fully informed meeting of the minds.

Looking forward to your responses.

Allan

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Whitney Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:47:23 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Hello Whitney's, I don't know if I sent my Whitney file out or not, but here it is. If you have already seen it, I apoligize for the duplication. Good luck on the new Whitney website. I can't wait to check it out. Marilyn

I am looking for a Omer Lloyd Whitney b. 7/26/1902 d. 5/2/1952. He is buried
in Miltonvale, KS. He married Ina Kaiser. There were 11 children born. 6
daughters and 1 son are still living, I have been told. John Paul b.

4/6/1937

and Norman Floyd b. 6/8/1939, also died 5/2/1952. Supposably in a plane
crash, I have not been able to find anything on this though. There was also

a

Lloyd Whitney, JR b. 5/28/1925 d. 6/1979 in Miltonvale, KS. Lloyd had 2
children, that I have found. Keith and a daughter. Any help would be
appreciated.

Omer's parents were Lee E. & Mable G. ? Whitney. Omer had a sister named Inda Gladys b.abt 1904, 2 brothers, Lee Ray b. abt 1907, & Kenneth E. b. abt 1910. Mable was born in Iowa, but Lee, Omer, Inda, Lee Ray, & Kenneth were born in KS. They lived in Republic Co., KS in 1910 per the KS 1910 census.

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Whitney Data-bases Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 05:29:59 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Hello Karen;

The database that I send out is a GEDCOM file, which is in a form that can be inported into most Family Tree Programs. I use Family Tree Maker which has the ability to export any part of the database and create a smaller database of any line or part of the line. If you have a problem breaking down a line, I will try to guide you through it or if you prefer, I'll do it for you and create a smaller GEDCOM.

Another option is to use a ZIP utility, which will further reduce the size of the GEDCOM.

On another subject, I sent out my Whitney line, thru Maiser, by attaching a TXT file to my EMail message. I received my copy with the attached file imbeded in the message, I also received some complaints, and chastisment, for corrupting mail files, I plead not guilty. The best explanation that I can offer is that it got corrupted while travelling through the Maiser server, please advise on the use of attachments through Maiser.

Keep in touch

Jon Aston

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From: Peg Sanborn <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]>

Subject: database Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:58:53 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

WRG,

Sorry to be so quiet this week. I've been doing major battle with this %&#$@ computer. It has crashed about 4 times, for some unknown reason. Seems that is a problem with these PB's. I'm about to send it sailing. This stupid thing is only a year old and has been nothing but trouble. Anyway!!!

Allan mentioned That I was working on some sort of database. What I doing is trying to index all the VR's. I have all the Vr's in a VERY FULL 4" binder, which can be somewhat difficult to flip through to look up a particular name. So what I decided to do, for my own use, and anyone else who would like it, is to put into database form all the whitney[and various spellings]names, event that took place and the town it took place in. For example if someone is looking for "Joe Schmo" Whitney, I'd be able to skim down the index to Whitney, Joe Schmo, find out if he's listed as a birth,marriage or death and which town[s] he'd be found in.

In the case of John Whitney, where there a tons and tons, it may look like this[this is just an example]

WHITNEY John birth Ashburnham Beverly

                                     Princeton      Stow
                        marriage     Ashburnham     Groton
                                     Princeton
                        death        Ashburnham     Beverly
                                     Princeton      Stow

If there is a John A. Whitney listed in the VR's he'd be listed under John A. As would any other suffix. i.e Jr, 2nd, Esq. Capt.

I tried to include the dates, but because of the amount of names involved, decided not to. It would have made it difficult to merge duplicate names. So far, I've only entered through Shrewbury and have over 4000 Whitneys. I've yet to merge the double names. I wanted to get all towns entered, alphabetize, then edit. Sorry to make a short story, long, this is all I'm doing. It is no where as involved as what you people are talking about. I just want to make it easier for myself when looking up a certain name, sure will beat scanning every VR's page.

Peg

P.S. What going on with the chat room. I think it a great idea. Maybe a couple of people could work out a schedule and do the moderating. It's nice to hear that you need not be a genealogy whiz!

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From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Databases, etc. Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 12:38:09 -0500 Sender: [email protected]

Dear WRG:

Upon rereading the mail on the subject of databases, there are several issues which I would like to address.

The kind of relational database that some are suggesting be created from the Vital Record entries, by tying them together into family groups, already exists. Jon Aston ([email protected]) is the current owner/maintainer, and it is called WITNEY11.GED. Upon request, Jon will send you all or part of it. Of course it relates only to the descendants of John-1 and Elinor (-----) WHITNEY of Watertown, MA. Descendants of Henry-1 WHITNEY of Norwalk, CT, have a separate database maintained by Joan Hicks ([email protected]), and the WHITNEYs from the South, presumably descendants of Capt. Francis WHITNEY of Bermuda, should also have a database, although I am not aware of one. Then there is the database of English WHITNEYs, which is maintained by Allan Green [email protected]).

You will need one of the genealogy database programs to use these properly, but really any one will do. Personally, I prefer The Master Genealogist (TMG), which is available on the World Wide Web at URL http://www.whollygenes.com/. There are both DOS and Windows versions, but not Macintosh. Other popular ones are Personal Ancestral File (PAF), Family Tree Maker (FTM and FTW [for Windows]), Family Origins, Roots III and IV, and so on. To each his own! All of them can be used to import any of the GEDCOM files.

Another way to access the data in the WITNEY11.GED file is to visit the following website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gumby/genweb/Whitney/Whitney.html There you will find the data displayed by family, indexed by name, and linked together genealogically.

In theory, Jon updates the WITNEY11.GED GEDCOM from new data received. Actually, I have some indications that it takes quite a while for some of the data sent to him to percolate down into the next version (presumably WITNEY12.GED). Jon has enunciated the position that he will take any and all data, even if it conflicts with data from other sources, and will not pass judgment on its correctness. For those of us who are sticklers for accuracy, and who want to resolve those conflicts, and expunge incorrect data, this is a bit of a problem, but no one is arguing very hard with Jon because he is doing all the work!

I have a personal database on the John-1 and Elinor (-----) WHITNEY family which incorporates all the vital record data I know of prior to 1800, plus all the other sources which I have been able to enter. This includes the probate records of Middlesex County, Massachusetts. I am not reluctant at all to remove what I can convince myself is incorrect data. I am also very willing to share my data, sources, and conclusions with the WRG. In fact, the first five generations of descendants of John-1 and Elinor (-----) WHITNEY, in both male and female lines, as extracted from my database, are already posted on the World Wide Web at the URL http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/john/, which I recommend to you. It is all genealogically linked forwards and backwards, and I am still working on the index. I am also contemplating extending this stuff to the sixth and seventh generations, but that is still problematical. The drawback of my database is that it stops at 1800. My most recent WHITNEY ancestor married in 1772, so I had no need to go later to establish my own lines. See http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/john/num309.html#998 for her, or http://www.erols.com/rlward1/charts/chart045.html in my pedigree charts. My other line appears at http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/john/num001#95 or http://www.erols.com/rlward1/charts/chart479.html in my pedigree charts. By the way, if you find anything to add or change there, please let's open a dialogue and talk about it.

What I volunteered to do, if you read my message carefully, is to receive the lineages of each member of the WRG, no matter from what earliest ancestor they stem, and compile them into a page at my website. By lineage, I mean the line of direct ancestors connecting the present to the earliest known WHITNEY ancestor. Many of these have appeared on the WRG mailing list recently.

Some have asked me how I compile such pages. The answer is that I do not use any of the web-authoring tools which are on the market, just a plain old word processor. I do the editing on my 486 DX 66 running Windows 3.1, and upload to my website using cuteftp.

Others have asked if they can link to my site from theirs. The answer is not just yes, but of course! The place to start is at http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/ I will add links of those who wish under "Other Whitney Pages" at the bottom of the above page.

If I have misunderstood what all the "Database" messages were talking about, please correct me, and explain what functionality is desired which is not supplied by the above listed resources.

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

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From: "Roger, Carolyn or Randy Winch" <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Whitney Data-bases Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:59:24 -0600 Sender: [email protected]

The Whitney Online Database at http://www.rootsweb.com/~gumby/genweb/Whitney/Whitney.html can also export any part of the database and create a smaller database of any line or part of the line. All you have to do is go to an individual, descendency chart or pedigree chart and select the Extract GEDCOM button at the bottom of the page. A screen will come up asking you which type of extraction you would like to do (Descendants of Ancestors) and how many generations you would like to download (up to 20). This download contains all family information (wives, husbands and children) for the specified number of generations (I think that Family Tree Maker has a problem when it exports ancestors). Your browser will ask you if you would like to save the file. Tell it yes and where you would like to store the GEDCOM file and you're done.

I think that it would be easy to do an index database for the VR's. All that would be needed is a comma delimited file and a field reference. The and/or part should be pretty easy unless you might want to do: this and that or what. I would be happy to write CGI scripts to handle this if you'd like.

Hope that this helps Randy Winch

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> From: [email protected] > To: WHITNEY family genealogy list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Whitney Data-bases > Date: Saturday, March 22, 1997 4:29 AM > > Hello Karen; > > The database that I send out is a GEDCOM file, which is in a form that can be > inported into most Family Tree Programs. I use Family Tree Maker which has > the ability to export any part of the database and create a smaller database > of any line or part of the line. If you have a problem breaking down a line, > I will try to guide you through it or if you prefer, I'll do it for you and > create a smaller GEDCOM. > > Another option is to use a ZIP utility, which will further reduce the size of > the GEDCOM. > > On another subject, I sent out my Whitney line, thru Maiser, by attaching a > TXT file to my EMail message. I received my copy with the attached file > imbeded in the message, I also received some complaints, and chastisment, for > corrupting mail files, I plead not guilty. The best explanation that I can > offer is that it got corrupted while travelling through the Maiser server, > please advise on the use of attachments through Maiser. > > > Keep in touch > > Jon Aston > >

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: Database thoughts Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 21:25:58 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

I am not sure I understand all the implications but it sound like a good Idea.

I would like a place to access the unconnected Whitneys. Before we can use some of this wonderful material, we need to find out from whom we descended after the Rev. War. Is this material available now.

How can I access the Henry descendents or Connecticut ones? It may be on the Web now but I cannot find it.

Being an unconnected Whitney, my linage is not on Ged11 or anyplace I can

find.

   I enjoyed receiving the "Whitney Lines" sent by members.   I read

everyone-- looking for a connection. I sent my line -What I know of it. We are still stuck in Michigan.

 This new database sounds great.   It will take much effort from many

persons. Good luck.

               Barbara Black

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: My Whitney Line Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 22:28:37 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

I am a little late in getting this line to you folks again. My work has taken me away from my computer too much lately. My line has not been real popular with the group since its inception in that I dont seem to share it with many. I am interested in resolving some of the Pierce conflicts that have been pointed out. This line is based on family records as well as church and civil records but there could be an error nonetheless. Here we go:

John WHITNEY + Elinor -Nathaniel WHITNEY + Sarah HAGAR --Nathaniel WHITNEY + Mercy ROBINSON ---Samuel WHITNEY + Elizabeth HASTINGS

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Samuel WHITNEY + Abigail CUTLER

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Newell Kimball WHITNEY + Elizabeth Ann SMITH

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Isaac GROO + Mary Jane WHITNEY

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William Alfred TAYLOR + Vilate Whitney GROO

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Albert Christian JOHNSON + Ruth Groo TAYLOR

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Rulon Spilsbury BROWN + Ruth Jean JOHNSON

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Robin Christopher BROWN (Me) + Joy Ann SELCH

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Lane Curtis BRO + Heather Anne BROWN (#1 Daughter & oldest of 7

children)

I would appreciate any collaborative data or others that share this line

Robin Brown Denver

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From: Edward Sinker <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Whitneys in the newspapers Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 11:29:30 +0000 Sender: [email protected]

Hi

I was sent to following and thought that it might be of interest:

>From "10,000 Vital Records of Western New York, 1809-1850", by Fred Q. Bowman, pub. 1985 by Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.,...

KEY: (10/12/1818 = Nov. 12, 1818, ie. month/day/year)

Note the items in parentheses. For example (5-7/18/1834), means source

1. 5-dated July 18, 1834.

• Code# *Publication town (& Co.) *Newspaper title *Date span of review

1. Batavia, Genesee Co. Republican Advocate 3/19/22-12/31/50 2. Bath, Steuben Co. Steuben Farmers Advocate 1/5/31-12/31/50 3. Geneva, Ontario Co. Geneva Gazette 6/21/09-12/31/27 4. Jamestown, Chautauqua Co. Jamestown Journal 7/21/26-12/31/50 5. Palmyra, Wayne Co. Wayne Sentinel 3/16/17-9/25/44

             Palmyra Register  1817-21

WHITNEY* (25)

WHITNEY, _________ (Mrs.) wf. of Samuel W., d. 7/27/1822 in Rochester

       (5-8/21/1822).

WHITNEY, Benjamin m. Mary STARK in Elmira (3-11/12/1817). WHITNEY, David (gen.), 62, m. Eliza WILSON, 16, in Addison, VT

       (3-7/1/1818).

WHITNEY, Ebenezer, 60, d. 8/27/1824, "late of Hopbottom", Susque. Co., PA

        (1-9/3/1824).

WHITNEY, Ephraim J., editor of the 'Lyons Advertiser' m. Susan PERINE,

       dau. of Peter, Esq., in Lyons (3-10/31/1827).

WHITNEY, Franklin, merchant, of Chenango Point, Broome Co. m. 9/12/1826 Eliza CAMERON, dau. of D. Cameron, Esq.; Rev. William W. Bostwick

       (3-9/20/1826).

WHITNEY, Henry, 48, merchant, of New York City d. 3/14/1812 in New York

       City (3-4/1/1812).

WHITNEY, Joel, Jr., m. 4/3/1817 Esther BELDING, dau. of Selah, in

       Seneca; Rev. Axtell (3-4/9/1817).

WHITNEY, John S., 29, d. in Hopewell (3-9/12/1827 and 2-9/19/1827). WHITNEY, Jonas, 48, brother of Joel and Nathan, d. 9/17/1823 in Hopewell

       ("funeral attended with Masonic honors") (3-10/8/1823).

WHITNEY, Jonas of Barre m. 7/17/1842 Julia E. POLLAY of Batavia, in

       Batavia; Rev. A. Handy (1-7/19/1842).

WHITNEY, Joshua (Gen.) of Binghampton m. Julia CROOKER in Cairo, NY

       (3-10/3/1827).

WHITNEY, Lorenzo of Fairport m. 1/19/1843 Mary A. JOHNSON ? of

       Farmington, in Farmington; Hon. P. Mitchell (5-1/25/1843).

WHITNEY, Olive, about 70, wf. of Lt. Nathan, d. 11/17/1829 in Seneca

       (3-11/18/1829).

WHITNEY, Otis m. 3/1/1815 Betsey HAWLEY in Seneca; Rev. Axtell

       (3-3/8/1815).

WHITNEY, Washington, merchant, m. 12/17/1826 Caroline PARK, dau. of

       Rufus, in Binghampton; Rev. Huse (3-1/5/1827).

WHITNEY, William W. m. 3/9/1836 Harriet MOORE in Lyons; Rev. L. Hubbell

       (5-3/18/1836).

COWEN, Nelson of Mansfield, Tioga Co., PA m. 7/17/1838 Emeline WHITNEY,

       dau. of ABraham I., Esq. of East Painted Post, in East Painted Post
       (2-7/25/1838).

HATCH, Solomon G. of Busti m. 1/24/1838 Augusta Ann G. WHITNEY, adopted

       dau. of Thomas WHitney, Esq., of Chautauqua, in Chautauqua; Rev. Dodge
       (4-2/7/1838 and repeated 4-2/14/1838). (In 4-1/31/1838 bride had been
       listed as "Augusta GREEN).

MOORE, Oliver W. Esq., of Ann Arbor, MI m. 10/24/1849 Aurelia WHITNEY of

       Le Roy at St. Marks's Church in Le Roy; Rev. T.R. Chipman, Rector
       (1-10/30/1849).

CARR, Smith m. Betsey WHITNEY in Milo; Hezekiah Townsend, Esq.

       (3-4/17/1822).

WATKINS, _________ of Gorham m. 2/4/1815 Deborah WHITNEY, dau. of Rascum

       of Geneva, in Geneva; Rev. Axtell (3-2/8/1815).

HOWES, Benjamin of Phelps m. 2/4/1816 Esther WHITNEY, dau. of Capt.

       Joel, in Seneca; Rev. Axtell (3-2/14/1816).

LUND, Alfred of Palmyra m. Mary Antoinette WHITNEY, dau. of James, Esq.

       of Nashua, NH, in Nashua; Rev. Richards (5-5/15/1844).

HANDY, Peter W. m. 10/10/1819 Susannah WHITNEY, both of West Bloomfield,

       at the Presbyterian Church in Bloomfield; Rev. Dr. Fitch (3-11/3/1819).

Edward Coates Sinker   -  email:  [email protected]
Church Lea
Bosbury
Herefordshire  HR8 1PX
U. K.

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Fwd: My Whitney Line Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 14:54:49 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

There appear to be some errors in the following message:

In a message dated 97-03-23 02:48:37 EST, [email protected] writes:

<< John WHITNEY + Elinor

[Insert John WHITNEY + Ruth Reynolds]

-Nathaniel WHITNEY + Sarah HAGAR
--Nathaniel WHITNEY + Mercy ROBINSON
---Samuel WHITNEY + Elizabeth HASTINGS

[Samuel, the son of Samuel and Elizabeth, married Phebe Harrington and moved to Marlboro, Vermont. Their son Samuel married Susanna Kimball. (Note Newell's middle name.) Pierce's book (p. 257) shows Newell Kimball Whitney who married Elizabeth Ann Smith (and two others) to be the oldest son of Samuel and Susanna (Kimball) Whitney. Of Samuel and Susanna, Pierce says, "They joined the Mormons and died in that colony and were buried in Kirkland [Ohio]." Pierce lists the whole family group, along with some birth, death, and marriage dates. Your Samuel (husband of Susanna Kimball) was a brother to my fourth great grandfather, Simci Whitney.]

----Samuel WHITNEY + Abigail CUTLER

[Others in the group might help you to identify this couple, who are apparently not the parents of the following son.]

-----Newell Kimball WHITNEY + Elizabeth Ann SMITH >>

If I have given you erroneous information here, I hope someone will correct me.

Mary Ellen Sharp <[email protected]>

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Forwarded message: From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] To: [email protected] (WHITNEY family genealogy list) Date: 97-03-23 02:48:37 EST

I am a little late in getting this line to you folks again. My work has taken me away from my computer too much lately. My line has not been real popular with the group since its inception in that I dont seem to share it with many. I am interested in resolving some of the Pierce conflicts that have been pointed out. This line is based on family records as well as church and civil records but there could be an error nonetheless. Here we go:

John WHITNEY + Elinor -Nathaniel WHITNEY + Sarah HAGAR --Nathaniel WHITNEY + Mercy ROBINSON ---Samuel WHITNEY + Elizabeth HASTINGS

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Samuel WHITNEY + Abigail CUTLER

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Newell Kimball WHITNEY + Elizabeth Ann SMITH

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Isaac GROO + Mary Jane WHITNEY

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William Alfred TAYLOR + Vilate Whitney GROO

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Albert Christian JOHNSON + Ruth Groo TAYLOR

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Rulon Spilsbury BROWN + Ruth Jean JOHNSON

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Robin Christopher BROWN (Me) + Joy Ann SELCH

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Lane Curtis BRO + Heather Anne BROWN (#1 Daughter & oldest of 7

children)

I would appreciate any collaborative data or others that share this line

Robin Brown Denver

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]>

Subject: Whitney Line - 2nd Attempt Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 04:58:00 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Hello all,

My second attempt at sending my Whitney Line. Robert Ward has given me the parents of Sarah Barnard.

My Whitney Line:

John Whitney and Elinor

Thomas Whitney and Mary Kedall or Kettle
                                                             Thomas Whitney

and Elizabeth Lawrence

  Isaiah Whitney and Sarah Woodward       John Whitney and Elizabeth Barnard
    Abraham Whitney and Sarah Whitney     Sarah Whitney and Abraham Whitney
       Isaiah Whitney and Mary Wheeler
         Mary Hayward Whitney and Jonathan Worster
            Lucy Worster and Nathan Farr
               Mary Farr and William Healy
                   William Frederick  and Mary Jane Thomas
                      May  Leona Healy and Job Lloyd Aston
                        Jon Aston and Vivian DeGioia

I would like to know the names of Elizabeth Barnard’s parents or if she was previously married to a man named Lee.

Keep in touch

Jon Aston

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From: "Douglas A. Adams" <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: John WHITNEY book Date: 25 Mar 97 23:10:26 EST Sender: [email protected]

Hi all, Are you still there. We have had no messages in ages!! Just want to let you know that we now own a reprint of the book: The Descendants of John Whitney, by Frederick Clifton Pierce, pub. 1895. Will do look ups.

Doug Adams [email protected]

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From: Edward Sinker <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: George Whitney Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 20:44:23 +0000 Sender: [email protected]

Hi

I did a search of all the Whitney messages that I have saved and I have saved a lot of them and did not find the following so maybe someone will be interested in it. It is not my Whitney line.

>From The Jenney Book, edited by Judith Jenney Gurney, 1995:

p. 107

SARAH WORTH b. Sept. 1815, New Bedford, Mass., d. Apr. 20, 1887, buried in Acushnet Cemetery; m. GEORGE WHITNEY, mariner, in Fairhaven, Mass., June 2, 1844. He was b. in June 1818, d. Mar. 23, 1900, son of ISAAC and LUCY (MARINER) WHITNEY. Children: a. CLARA LUCY WHITNEY b. Aug. 31, 1815; m. JAMES BLACKMER

       SHERMAN

b. EBENEZER WHITNEY b. May 23, 1855

That's about all

Edward Coates Sinker   -  email:  [email protected]
Church Lea
Bosbury
Herefordshire  HR8 1PX
U. K.

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From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Which Benjamin WHITNEY, Jr., d. 13 Nov 1713? Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:52:55 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

WRG:

The book _Watertown Records, Comprising the Third Book of Town Proceedings and the Second Book of Births, Marriages, and Deaths, to the End of 1737. Also, Plan and Register of Burials in Arlington Street Burying Ground_ (1900), gives the following entries on page 50:

Benjamin WHITNEY, s. Benjamin & Elizabeth WHITNEY, b. 14 Sep 1712 Benjamin WHITNEY, Jr., d. 13 Nov 1713

In _Watertown Records, Comprising East Congregational and Precinct Affairs, 1697 to 1737. Also, Record Book of the Pastors, 1686-1819_ (1906), there appears under the date of 10 Jul 1698, the baptism of Benjamin, John, David, Abigail, and Ruth, children of Benjamin and Abigail WHITNEY.

Many authors have assumed because of the juxtaposition of the first two records, that they apply to the same person. This is not the case, however: the death actually applies to the child baptized in 1698.

The two people involved are Benjamin-4 WHITNEY, son of Benjamin-3 and Abigail (HAGAR) WHITNEY (John-2, John-1), and Benjamin-5 WHITNEY, son of Benjamin-4 and Elizabeth (FISKE) WHITNEY (Joseph-3, John-2, John-1). They were thus first cousins once removed.

Critical to the analysis of this problem is the will of Samuel WHITNEY of Watertown, dated 13 Dec 1805 (Middlesex Co., MA, Probate Records, File

1. 24744). In it, Samuel WHITNEY mentions the following people: brother

Benjamin WHITNEY; sister Elizabeth CHILD; children of brother Benjamin WHITNEY; children of sister Elizabeth CHILD; Joseph WHITNEY 2nd, son of Jonathan WHITNEY, late of Watertown, deceased; Peter HARRINGTON; Nathaniel R. WHITNEY, executor. Witnesses were Peter WARREN, Miles BRIGHT, and Saml. BARNES. This information suffices to identify this Samuel WHITNEY as Samuel-5 WHITNEY, son of Benjamin-4 and Elizabeth (FISKE) WHITNEY, who had been born 22 Nov 1715, Watertown, and had married 1 Mar 1743, Watertown, Mary CLARK, but left no children. His wife had died on 17 Aug 1763 in Watertown.

Clearly Samuel-5's brother Benjamin-5 was still living at the time of the will in 1805, and could not have died in 1713. This forces us to conclude that it was Benjamin-4 WHITNEY, who probably was born about 1691, to whom the cited death record belongs.

Of course, this presents us with a second problem. Benjamin-4 WHITNEY, Jr., is assigned a wife and children by many authors, but now we know that he died in 1713. Who was the Benjamin WHITNEY who married Rebecca ----- and fathered the children Mary, Benjamin, Rebecca, Samuel, Josiah, Henry, Lydia, and Sarah, born from 1733 to 1749? Why, he was the Benjamin WHITNEY, Jr. who didn't die, of course: Benjamin-5 WHITNEY, b. 14 Sep 1712, son of Benjamin and Elizabeth (FISKE) WHITNEY. Apparently he married at the age of 20 or thereabouts, which is a better fit chronologically than the man born about 1691, and who would have been 41 at marriage. Furthermore, he named a son Samuel, apparently after his brother, who in 1805 mentioned him and his children in his will cited above.

There is another reason for believing this interpretation of the records. Children who died in infancy are recorded with the names of their parents. The death of Benjamin WHITNEY, Jr., does not mention parents, leading us to believe that he was not a child. This fits the man born about 1691 very well indeed. Apparently the juxtaposition of the two records was caused purely by chronological coincidence.

In summary, regardless of statements made by Franklin Clifton Pierce, Henry Bond, and several other authors, the identity of the Benjamin WHITNEY, Jr., who died 13 Nov 1713 in Watertown, is Benjamin-4 WHITNEY (Benjamin-3, John-2, John-1), b. ca. 1691, bp. 10 Jul 1698, Watertown. This necessitates adjusting of the line of descent for the Benjamin WHITNEY who m. Rebecca

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about 1732, to Benjamin-5 (Benjamin-4, Joseph-3, John-2, John-1).

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

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From: [email protected] To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Final (?) list of VR Lists Offered Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 23:01:11 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

Dear WRG:

I think (!) that I have finally caught up with all the VR's that were sent to the list and to me by Peg Sanborn & Jan Whitaker and a host of other volunteers including Jon Aston, Karen Grubaugh, Marion Leska, Jeannie Muse, Brenda and Paul Nichols, Bert Smith, Carolyn Vosburg, Robert Ward, Vickie White and Jerry Whitney, and if I somehow missed somebody, I am terribly sorry and apologize profusely.

For some of the newer list members, this is a project that began quite some time ago, and is available in several forms - on Robert Ward's WebSite at

http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/

and from me in the eleven lists of towns shown below, as an ASCII file that is quite easy to load into a word processor and print out for quick reference. For many of those who have been collecting along the way, I have deleted a few instances of duplication, especially Concord and Groton which were first published in an incomplete form and later corrected (the earlier one is no longer in the lists), and I have also combined the Stow and Templeton/Harvard lists, which had been offered separately, with some others to cut down on the number of "collected lists" all told.

Here, then, is what I hope is the last of the offerings of collected Whitney VR's

                 EXTRACTED WHITNEY VITAL RECORDS
                              A list of lists

VITAL RECORDS FOR ASSORTED MASSACHUSETTS TOWNS, PART I
Bedford, Chelmsford, Gloucester, Holliston, Hopkinton, Leicester, Medway,

Mendon, Milford, Rutland, Sudbury, Westford

VITAL RECORDS FOR ASSORTED MASSACHUSETTS TOWNS, PART II
Athol, Bellingham, Bolton, Boxborough, Brookfield, Brookline, Natick,
Sherborn, Waltham

VITAL RECORDS FOR ASSORTED MASSACHUSETTS TOWNS, PART III
Acton, Cambridge, Conway, Dracut, Dudley, Dunstable, Gardner, Grafton,

Newton,

VITAL RECORDS FOR ASSORTED MASSACHUSETTS TOWNS, PART IV
Abington, Amesbury, Andover, Arlington, Ashburnham, Ashfield, Attleborough,

Barre, Becket, Beverly, Billerica, Boxford, Bradford, Bridgewater, Brimfield, Burlington, Charlemont, Charlestown, Chelsea, Chester, Concord, Dana, Danvers, Dartmouth, Dedham, Deerfield, Douglas, Dover, Duxbury, East Bridgewater, Foxborough, Framingham,

VITAL RECORDS FOR ASSORTED MASSACHUSETTS TOWNS, PART V
Boylston, Buckland, Colrain, Cummington, Granville, Greenfield, Hardwick,

Hinsdale, Holden, Hubbardston, Ipswich, Lancaster, Lawrence, Lee, Leominster, Lexington, Lowell, Lynn, Malden, Manchester, Marblehead, Marborough, Medfield,

VITAL RECORDS FOR ASSORTED MASSACHUSETTS TOWNS, PART VI
Eastham, Fitchburg, Groton, Hanover, Harwich, Littleton, Lunenburg,

Marshfield, Medford, Methuen, Millbury, Montague, Newburyport, New Bedford, Northbridge, Otis, Oxford, Watertown

VITAL RECORDS FOR ASSORTED MASSACHUSETTS TOWNS, PART VII
Nantucket, New Salem, Newbury, Pelham, Pembroke, Pepperell, Phillipston,
Princeton, Reading, Rochester, Salem, Salisbury, Sandisfield, Scituate,

Sharon, Shirley, Shrewsbury, Southborough, Spencer, Stoneham, Tewksbury, Tisbury,

VITAL RECORDS FOR ASSORTED MASSACHUSETTS TOWNS, PART VIII Petersham, Sterling, Sutton, Townsend, Tyngsborough, Upton, Uxbridge, Walpole, Wakefield, Warren, Washington, Wayland, West Boylston, West Springfield, Webster, Weston, Westport, Windsor, Winchendon,

VITAL RECORDS FOR ASSORTED MASSACHUSETTS TOWNS, PART IX
Templeton, Harvard, Woburn, Waltham

VITAL RECORDS FOR ASSORTED MASSACHUSETTS TOWNS, PART X
Stow, Westminster, Weymouth, Williamstown, Worthington, Wrentham, Yarmouth

VITAL RECORDS FOR ASSORTED MASSACHUSETTS (ME, NH) TOWNS, PART XI
Berlin, Boston, Braintree, Canton, Charleton, Dorchester, Lincoln, Minton,

Palmer, Peru, Royalston, Shelburne, Stoughton, Worcester, Gorham, ME, Keene, NH

As always, those who would like copies of any of the above eleven ASCII files sent to them as attachments, please write me a note directly, indicating which of these you would like sent to you.

I am still bouncing around ideas about an overall index to all the Whitney data that has been appearing - starting with these records and including all the different kinds of data that has been showing up through the generosity of the group, taken from town records, obituaries, cemeteries, newspapers, family genealogies like the Pierce, etc. and family tree submissions. The problem is to figure out a way to build a relational database that will not only allow but also encourage the creation of links among the various entries. I will be seeking assistance from the computer science department at my school, and will try to keep you posted about developments.

This is something that I just cannot see being done by any of the current genealogy packages, but I can't lay claim to much experience with a lot of them. I do have some idea of structure and structural analysis from my profession as a Music Theorist, and will be trying to apply that type of analysis to the problem of creating such a database. I know Peg has made a start with an index of these VR's, and I would hope to incorporate that with anything that I try to do. More on all this as it develops.

One last thought - for you basketball fans out there. How about our Kentucky Wildcats!!! One more to go!!

Happy Hunting:-)

Allan E. Green <[email protected]>

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From: Peg Sanborn <[email protected]> To: "WHITNEY family genealogy list" <[email protected]> Subject: Fitchburg VR's Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 19:13:25 -0500 (EST) Sender: [email protected]

WRG, Here is the completion of the Fitchburg VR's. Sorry to take so long to complete.

                       FITCHBURG VITAL RECORDS

BIRTHS

VOL III pg.343-4

WHITNEY

       Lusana Carter, d. of Benjamin and Methable, Dec. 27,1825.
       Lysander, s. of  Benjamin and Methable, Oct.31,1826.
       Mary Ann, d. of  Benjamin and Methable, Nov.5,1829.
       John, s. of  Benjamin and Methable, Feb.3,1832.
       Alonzo, s. of  Benjamin and Methable, Nov.23,1834.
       Sydney, s. of  Benjamin and Methable, Dec.8,1840.

MARRIAGE INTENTIONS

VOL II

pg.238 Joshua Whitney of Boxborough and Mrs. Abigail Holt, Mar.22,1790. pg.239 Judah Whiteney and Polly McIntire, Aug.10,1791. pg.240 Alpheus Whitney of Westminster and Esther Hartwell, Feb.9,1792. pg.247 Susanah Whitney of Lunenburg and Edmond Stone, Apr.9,176?. pg.251 Zacriah Whitny and Betse Wetherby of Harvard, Apr.23,1744.

VOL III pg.50 Lucy of Lunenburg and Solomon Day, Dec.25,1796. pg.79 Zacheus of Lunenburg and Sally Holt, Apr.1,1808. pg.88 Amos of Leominster and sophia Harris, Mar.6,1812. pg.89 Abigail of Westminster and Thomas Harris, Sept.12,1812. pg.133 Salomona of Westminster and Samuel Hale, Dec.26,1818. pg.148 Benjamin and Mehatable Whitcomb, Apr.2,1824. pg.149 Nancy of Ashby and Asa Holt, Dec.24,1824. pg.152 Ruth M. and Ephraim Barnes, Nov.24,1825. pg.159 Horace and Mary Sawin of Gardner, Feb.7,1829. pg.163 Abner[Whiting] of Westminster and Lovina G. Whitemore, Dec.1,1830. pg.189 Harriet J. of Ashburnham and George W.H. Richardson, Mar.11,1840. pg.193 Mary C. of Ashburnham and William Brown, July 27,1841. pg.198 Lucy of Boston and Thomas Livermore, Jan.13,1843. pg.209 Newton and Sarah Divoll of Winchendon, Oct.25,1845. pg.218 Mercy of Harvard and Lysander S. Upham. Apr.30,1847. pg.220 Abigail B.M. and George W. DeWitt, Oct.16,1847. pg.227 Charles H. of Westminster and Abby A. Tolman, Sept.25,1848.

MARRIAGES

VOL II

pg.210 Alpheus of Westminster to Esther Hartwell, Oct.11,1792.

VOL III

pg.82 Rev. Phinehas of Shirley to Jane Garfield, Mar.8,1809. pg.88 Amos to Sophia Harris, Apr.2,1812. pg.238 Charles of Petersham to Elizabeth Kimbal, Oct.31,1765. pg.239 Lucy to Solomon Day, Mar.5,1797. pg.241 Zachariah to Elizabeth Wetherbee of Harvard, Aug.18,1774. pg.246 Lucy of Boston to Thomas Livermore, Feb.16,1843. pg.262 Ruth M. to Ephraim Barnes, Dec.15,1825. pg.269 Abner of Westminster to Lorinda G. Whittemore, Dec.24,1831. pg.279 Harriet to William Johnson Wheeler, May 17,1835. pg.280 Albert of Lunenburg and Lucy W. Conant of Harvard, Apr.19,1836, in Lunenburg. pg.406 Abigail B.M. to George W. DeWitt, Nov.24,1847. pg.411 Nancy to Asa Holt, Feb.8,1825, in Ashby. pg.413 Gratia F. to Charles C. Locke, Dec.31,1848. pg.422 Charles H. to Abby A Tolman, Oct.19,1848.

       Horace to Mary Swain, Apr.8,1829, in Gardner.

Peace, Peg Sanborn [email protected]

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