Mailing List Discussions, May 1998
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 11:07:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Barry Whitney <[email protected]> Subject: South Carolina Genealogy question & answer forum To: [email protected]
excerpt from SCIway News, No. 11 - April 30, 1998 Genealogists especially note the sections entitled FIRST "ASK SCIWAY" FORUMS NOW ONLINE
and
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IN THIS ISSUE
First "Ask SCIway" Forums Now Online
Meet Our History and Genealogy Moderators
New and Notable South Carolina Web Sites
Some Beautiful Pictures of South Carolina Waterfalls
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FIRST "ASK SCIWAY" FORUMS NOW ONLINE
In the last two issues of SCIway News, I've talked about the need for a Web-based bulletin board where anyone in the world could ask a question about South Carolina, and any interested South Carolinian could answer. I also believe we would all benefit from a well known online location where South Carolinians could easily share information with each other.
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UPCOMING FESTIVALS, SHOWS, EVENTS
Lobster Race (plus The Tams) - Aiken, May 1
http://www.lobsterrace.com
Mayfest - Columbia, May 1-3
http://www.columbiasc.com/cac/mayfest98.htm
Lynches River Festival - Bishopville, May 2
http://water.dnr.state.sc.us/water/envaff/river/projects/
lynches.html#festival (reconstruct on your browser)
Newberry College Institute on Electronic Commerce, May 11-12 + June
http://www.newberry.edu/eci_fd.htm
Armed Forces Week - Charleston, May 11-15
http://www.charleston.af.mil/chas/afweek.htm
Blue Crab Festival - Little River, May 16
http://www.weblync.com/LRCOC/LRCOC1.htm
Catfish Feastival - Ware Shoals, May 22-23
http://www.grinet.org/public/events/catfeast/index.htm
Spoleto Festival USA - Charleston, May 22-June 7
http://www.charleston.net/spoleto/
Piccolo Spoleto - Charleston, May 22-June 7
http://www.charleston.net/piccolo/
SOME BEAUTIFUL PICTURES OF SOUTH CAROLINA WATERFALLS
Since the first time I saw one, I've thought that waterfalls are one of the most beautiful and awesome creations on earth. I can sit and watch them--and listen to them--for hours.
Happily, South Carolina's Upstate has an abundance of waterfalls, a few of which I've visited. But now, thanks to Ben Brooks and Tim Cook, we can all see some exceptional photographs of our state's largest falls through the Internet. Just point your browser to
http://www.people.virginia.edu/~bcb5a/waterfalls.html
Ben and Tim took most of these pictures while they were attending Clemson and working with Bob McAnally at the University's Communications Center. Ben is from Seneca and Tim is from Clemson.
Of the 25 waterfalls pictured, 18 are in Oconee County, 5 are in Greenville County, and two are in Pickens County. The names of the falls are almost as interesting as the photographs!
If you plan to view these photographs through a lower speed modem connection, you may want to wait until a time when Internet traffic is lighter (early in the morning, late at night, or Friday afternoons and Saturdays and Sundays). My modem usually connects at 31.2 kbps, and it takes between a minute and a minute and a half for each picture to display. But every picture is worth every second.
Ben and Tim plan to add directions and a map for each waterfall. I hope they are able to do this soon . . . because once you've seen the pictures, you really want to go see and hear the real thing.
Note: For additional information about South Carolina's rivers and waterfalls, see http://www.sciway.net/tourism/rivers.html.
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Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 08:14:00 -0700
From: "Patricia A. Whitney-Jones" <[email protected]>
Subject: Arv Whitney
To: [email protected]
Dear Arv (7th cousin once removed):
Our prayers go with you both! Remember15:20, 12 June 2007 (CDT)you will only be as far away as our thoughts.....not to mention "the keyboard".
~Tricia~
================================================
>My wife and I have been called to serve the Lord for 18 months in the >Zimbabwe Harare Mission. We will report to the Senior Mission Training >Center on the 7th of July. We will then leave for Zimbabwe about two >weeks thence. We are so excited and wanted to let everyone know. We have >been terribly busy preparing for this call and received it yesterday. >We will still be receiving E-mail and will set up uor new laptop in >Zimbabwe. There are several internet providers there at very reasonble >rates, just don't know how long it will take. >So, keep it coming, and we'll keep in touch. >Arv > Patricia Whitney-Jones {Lackie/Hoopes} San Diego, California http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/h/i/Patricia-A-WhitneyJones/index.html [my niece)http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/o/w/Karen--Howell/
LACKIE*LAVIGNE*SANDIFORD*WHITNEY*REID*PERRY*TYLER*WARNER* FROST***BULLEN*STAATS*MAXWELL*CROCKETT*MCCRONE* HOFFECKER*NAUDAIN*PEACH*ROBERTS***HOOPES*JONES
From: "Doneva Shepard" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Whitney soldier Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 09:18:12 -0700 To: [email protected]
Original Message-----
From: Ron H Nichols <[email protected]> To: Doneva Shepard <[email protected]> Date: Friday, May 01, 1998 9:34 AM Subject: Re: Whitney soldier
>Doneva,
>
>Thanks for the additional information as to where you found the name
>"Whitney." The newspaper you saw was a copy of the July 6, 1876, Bismarck
>Tribune Extra which included a list of those killed in the battle and
>included for Company K "D. Whitney, 1st Sergt." However the correct
spelling
>for the 1st Sergeant of Company K was Dewitt WINNEY, and not Whitney. I
hope
>this clarifies the problem.
>
>Ron Nichols
>[email protected]
Dear Ron
Well shoot! Newspapers reporters couldn't spell back then any better than the census takers or the immigration officers. Actually, when I think about it, our Whitney's have been spelled in so many different ways, maybe we're not ready to give up on this being one of our Whitneys, yet. haha Thank you so very much for your attention to this. It's been really important to a lot of us. Doneva Shepard in OR
From: LindaDeWld <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 17:13:27 EDT Subject: NY Civil War Whitney's one last time To: [email protected]
This is the last of the Whitneys in NY regiments during the civil war that I
found. I do not believe this is a complete list. It was taken from:
http://www.snymor.edu/pages/library/local_history/sites/ny_reg/ which is the page for Civil War reenacters in NY. Many of the units did not
give original civil war rosters for their regiments. Many did but not complete lists. I reviewed all that were there and did my best to get all the Whitneys. I am repeating all that I posted before and I believe one or two that I did not previously list. I will keep a copy of the list in my file for future reference and will add any others I find.
5th New York Volunteer Infantry
Whitney, John Henry Whitney, Theodore J.
9th Regt Infantry NYSV (Hawkins' Zouaves) Transcribed from the NY State Adjutant General's Report
- = Mustered in with regiment on May 4, 1861
Whitney, John R. B 20 * Corpl. Whitney, Isaac B 23 * Pvt.
12th New York Cavalry
WHITNEY, Rozell - Private, Co. A. Enlisted at age 21 from Oswego, NY. Captured at Plymouth, NC. Died at Andersonville, GA.
21st New York Volunteers
Whitney, William L. Age 24. 1st Sgt Co E, 2nd Lt Nov 1, 1861; killed Aug 30, 1861 Bull Run, VA; commissioned 2nd Lt Nov 1, 1861 with rank from Oct 26, 1861, vice Thomas Sloane, dischgd
24th Independent Battery New York Light Artillery formerly the Rocket Battallion, Company B
WHITNEY, Hamilton S. - Age 18, enlisted, November 16, 1861, at Albany, N.Y., mustered in as private, December 7, 1861, to serve three years; re-enlisted January 1, 1864; captured, April 20, 1864, at Plymouth, N.C.; paroled, March 3, 1865; transferred to Battery L, Third Artillery, May 28, 1865.
WHITNEY, W. Adolphus - Age 18, enlisted, November 21, 1861, at Wellsville, N.Y.; mustered in as private, December 7, 1861, to serve three years; re-enlisted, January 1, 1864; appointed Bugler, January 1, 1865; transferred to Battery L, Third Artillery , May 28, 1865.
*****
37th Regiment New York Volunteer Infantry, "The Irish Rifles"
WHITNEY, GEORGE. 72nd NY Volunteer Infantry, Company I Name Rank Age When Where Whitney, Truman W. Private 19 June 21 Staten Island
83rd NY Company "F" Privates
Lawrence M. Whitney
101st Regiment NYS Volunteers
COMPANY NAME RANK AGE WHEN WHERE Co. D Whitney, George Private 23 Dec 5 Hancock
112TH NEW YORK VOLUNTEERS.
COMPANY "A.' Hiram Whitney, Carroll, Hospital Nurse during most of term of service. COMPANY "D." William B. Whitney, French Creek, absent sick from July 30 to September 15,
'63; absent sick from July 1, '64.
COMPANY "H." Orwell Whitney, Chautauqua, detailed in 7th Mass. Battery, May 27, '63 died at
Washington, D.C., Nov. 11, '63.
Alphabetical Index of Civil War Veterans of Chautauqua County WHITNEY, George, Sherman, CC-155e WHITNEY, George, Dunkirk, CC-63 WHITNEY, Hiram, Carroll, CC-19 WHITNEY, John, Dunkirk, CC-63 WHITNEY, Nelson H., Portland, CC-149 WHITNEY, Orwell, Chautauqua, CC-28 WHITNEY, Samuel Backus, Stockton, CC-163 WHITNEY, Thomas J., Sherman, CC-155e WHITNEY, William B., French Creek, CC-100
140th NY
Company A Non-Commissioned Officers Corporal George W . Whitney Enlistees/Draftees 1863 to Company A Whitney, Abram Whitney, Grove D. Enlistees/Draftees 1864
144th New York Volunteer Infantry Regiment SURNAME FIRST NAME CO. PAGE LINE Whitney Austin W. G 140 930 Whitney Eli K 189 1356
154th NEW YORK
Whitney, Charles E. (I)--February 8, 1845; Sardinia, New York; September 25, 1923; Soldiers' Home, Bath, New York; Allegany Cemetery, Allegany, New York.
Whitney, Frank (K)--ca. 1841; Chautauqua County, New York; ?; ?; ?
The 165th Regiment, N.Y. Volunteer Infantry, 2nd Battalion Duryee Zouaves September, 1862 - September, 1865
WHITNEY , Charles M. , Co. A , Corporal
Linda D.
From: JOEWHITNEY <[email protected]> Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 00:22:53 EDT Subject: NY Civil War Whitneys To: [email protected]
Don't forget my great-great-great-grandfather, Joel Barnard Whitney, 50th New York Engineers, Army of the Potomac (see Pierce's Whitney Genealogy.
Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 06:23:39 -0700 From: Helen Cooper <[email protected]> Subject: Mary Whitney To: [email protected]
Joseph Cody who md Mary Whiteney descends from Joseph, Isaac, Philip. The family you have listed should be: Joseph Cody md Mary Prmenter. Helen
From: ALLAGREEN <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 09:37:49 EDT Subject: _____ Whitney & Lydia Tarball To: [email protected]
Dear Janice & WRG:
I have been slowly working through the material you furnished us from the Farnsworth Memorial. When I got to your reference to p.223, I found a problem and an opportunity to contribute something.
With respect to the _____ Whitney who married Lydia Tarball/Tarbell, the Pepperell Vital Records show an Abijah Whitney as marrying that woman on 28 May 1818. I think (on the basis of the Pepperell VR's and Robert Ward's excellent 5-Gen study, but do not currently have the resources to prove) that this is Abijah-6 who was born in 1781 as son to Benjamin-5 (Joseph-4, Joseph-3, Jonathan-2, John-1), despite the fact that he would have been ca 37 years old at that time. I can find no other known Abijah Whitney who is not maritally occupied except Abijah-8 (son of David-7, Silas-6, David-5, Benjamin-4, Thomas-3, Thomas-2, John-1), whose birthdate is within the appropriate timespan, currently unknown, but whose family had removed to Rutland Co., VT, by the time of the 1818 marriage. Children (four) of Abijah-6 and Lydia Tarbell/Tarball Whitney are given in the Pepperell, MA, Vital Records, and will be listed at the end of this letter.
The problem or confusion that I find on p. 223 has to do with the entry immediately above, for Benjamin Whitney, who as far as I am able to determine is the Benjamin-5 of the paragraph above, and father of Abijah. This Benjamin seems to have been much married (four times), and Robert Ward's 5-Gen agrees with your entry in having Mary turner as the first wife, and Olive Farnsworth as the third. Where he and I (as far as I can determine from the VR's alone, without all the necessary death entries) differ with your listing is that we both have (Mrs.) Rebecca Fitch of Groton, MA, as the second wife - and the mother of Abijah-6. My primary basis for this determination is the manner of the entries for children of Benjamin Whitney in the Pepperell VR's. His children are listed in the following manner: Xxxxxx, s. of Benjamin & w. (Mary) with a date between the time of his marriage to Mary Turner and her assumed death; and, Xxxxxx, d. of Benjamin & w. (Rebecca) for those born after the date of the marriage of (a) Benjamin to Mrs Rebecca Fitch.
I was not certain of the marriage to Olive Farnsworth until I consulted Robert Ward's 5-Gen study, but he points out the marriage banns for Benjamin-5 and Anna Woods, published 2 Sep 1809, and the presence in the will of Benjamin-5 of Anna Whitney as wife, executrix and sole legatee. When this marriage date is coupled with the death of Olive (Farnsworth) Whitney in January of 1809, the identification of this particular Benjamin as the husband of Olive Farnsworth becomes much clearer. Further, her age at death providing an 1854 birthdate, it is also clearer that her age (40) at the time of the 1794 marriage, coupled with Benjamin's already having six young children in the house from his marriage with Rebecca Fitch, suggests an explanation why there are no children in the Pepperell VR's for Benjamin and Olive. His three children from his first marriage to Mary Turner were all of an age to have left the home by 1794.
What led to my uncertainty is the question of assigning one of these marriages to Benjamin-6 (Jr.), his son with Mary Turner, born in 1764. With respect to this being the Benjamin who married Olive, it seemed possible other than the fact that she was 10 years older than he was. However, the coincidence of the dates of death of one wife, followed in short order by the taking of a new wife seem to make it clear that Benjamin-5 actually married 4 times.
Children of Abijah-6 and Lydia Tarball/Tarbell Whitney: (from Pepperell, MA, VR's) 1) Eliza Whitney, b. 5 Jan 1820, Pepperell, Middlesex, MA 2) Henrietta Whitney, b. 10 Feb 1823, Pepperell, Middlesex, MA 3) Joseph Whitney, b. 25 Jun 1827, Pepperell, Middlesex, MA 4) Mary Ann Whitney, b. 30 May 1833, Pepperell, Middlesex, MA
Finally, for everyone, apropos the next entry from Janice's Farnsworth Memorial, that on p. 259 for the Lydia-7 Whitney (Samuel-6, Joseph-5, Timothy-4, John-3, John-2, John-1) who married James Locke, Jr., the Whitney database had the marriage listed in 1873, source "Kindred Konnections CD", but that has to be a typo or misreading of a seven (7) for a one (1), as the 1813 date makes perfect sense, while the 1873 one would have the bride as 80 years old. Now, she did live to be 96, but could hardly have had 12 children after age 80.
Janice, I will be interested in your reaction to the thoughts above.
Happy Hunting to all.
Allan E. Green
Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 15:33:32 -0500 From: "L. D. McWilliams III" <[email protected]> Subject: Whitney VA/KN To: [email protected]
Can anyone connect to this family?
L. D. McWilliams
FIRST GENERATION
1. Elijah WHITNEY owned land in Christian County, Kentucky. Christian County became Trigg County, Kentucky in 182 He was in 1830 census for Trigg Co, KN
lived in Washington Co., VA before KN
He was married to Mrs.. Elijah WHITNEY and Mrs. had the following children:
+2 i. Mary (Polly) WHITNEY.
SECOND GENERATION
2. Mary (Polly) WHITNEY was born on 9 Aug 1798 in Virginia. She died on 22 Feb 1867 in Panola County, Texas?.
She was married to Frances Bird BOUNDS (son of Joseph BOUNDS and Mary BIRD) on 7 Aug 1816 in Christian County, Kentucky. Frances Bird BOUNDS was born on 20 Feb 1797 in North Carolina. He died on 25 Jan 1865 in Panola County, Texas?. He moved to Panola County, Texas about 1844/46. Mary (Polly) WHITNEY and Frances Bird BOUNDS had the following children:
+3 i. Altasarah (Sarah) (Althy) BOUNDS. +4 ii. Julia BOUNDS. +5 iii. Laura Ann BOUNDS. +6 iv. Mary BOUNDS. +7 v. Frances Bird Jr. BOUNDS. +8 vi. Thomas R. BOUNDS. +9 vii. Stacy BOUNDS. +10 viii. Pascal Lafayette BOUNDS. 11 ix. John Jefferson BOUNDS was born on 17 Oct 1835 in Tennessee. +12 x. Harriet Audrey BOUNDS.
From: Farns10th <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 18:13:12 EDT
Subject: WHITNEY CAPT. JONATHAN Lancaster, MA marriage l7l8/l9
To: [email protected]
Here is an item I just found in the Fort No. 4 History of Charlestown, NH
Surname: WHITCOMB Source: History of Charlestown, NH by Rev. Saunderson p6l9 Simon Willard son of Henry Willard and his wife, Mary (Lakin) Willard m. Mary Whitcomb. Res: Lancaster, MA where he d. in l706. His widow, Mary (Whitcomb) Willard m. (2) Samuel Farns- worth of Groton, MA. Simon Willard and his wife, Mary Whitcomb had issue: l. Aaron Wilard b. Lancaster, MA l70l m. l724 Mary Wright dau
of Capt. Samuel Wright and wife, Mary (Stevens) Wright of Sudbury and Rutland, MA.
2. Moses Willard b. at Lancaster, MA l702 or l703 m. Susanna
Hastings l728 of Watertown, MA (p.620) Her sisters Hannah and Eunice Hastings married his step-brothers, David & Stephen Farnsworth.
3. Eunice Willard b. at Lancaster, MA m. Joseph Doby Jr. of
Stow, MA
4. Alice Willard b. at Lancaster, MA m. Capt. Jonathan
Whitney of Lancaster, MA on Jan 20 l7l8/l7l9.
5. Miriam Willard b. posthumously at Sudbury MA m Joseph
Maynard of Lancaster on Jan 29, l723.
____________________________________________________________ Submitted by Janice Farnsworth 5/2/98 email [email protected]
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 10:08:54 From: "Robert L. Ward" <[email protected]> Subject: More WHITNEY Genealogy To: [email protected]
Dear WRG:
I have now posted to my website a full six-generation genealogy of the descendants of John-1 and Elinor (-----) WHITNEY of Watertown, MA. Included is a full name and place index. This is to replace the five-generation one with incomplete name index previously posted. To access it, go to
<http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/john/index.html>.
There you will find links to the following pages: one for John-1 WHITNEY and his children and grandchildren; one for each of his 37 grandchildren who are known to have had descendants; the full name index; the full place index; and the old version, should anyone still be interested in seeing it.
Please update your links if you link to the old five-generation version. For example, the old <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/john/num309.html#998>, the link to my own ancestress Sarah-5 (WHTINEY) FLAGG, should now be changed to <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/john/john71.html#i114). The old pages are still in place and will remain so for a few months.
As always, any comments, criticisms, or suggestions are very welcome.
Regards,
Robert
Robert L. Ward [email protected] http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659
Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne W. Muse" <[email protected]> Subject: WHITNEY CAPT. JONATHAN Lancaster, MA marriage 1718/19 Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 08:53:06 -0400 To: [email protected]
WRG: Janice Farnsworth wrote: >>Surname: WHITCOMB Source: History of Charlestown, NH by Rev. Saunderson p6l9 Simon Willard son of Henry Willard and his wife, Mary (Lakin) Willard m. Mary Whitcomb. Res: Lancaster, MA where he d. in l706. His widow, Mary (Whitcomb) Willard m. (2) Samuel Farns- worth of Groton, MA.<<
I have more info on MARY WHITCOMB, as follows:
She was the daughter of Josiah Whitcomb (1638-1718) and Rebecca Waters ((1640-1726). Josiah Whitcomb was the son of John Whitcomb (c1588-1662) and his wife Frances Coggin (1605/6-1671). John and Frances are the immigrants from England and are recorded as being in Massachusetts in 1629, per Plymouth Colony Records.
I descend directly from Josiah's brother, Jonathan Whitcomb, and his wife Mary Blood. Anyone needing more Whitcomb information, let me know.
- -) Jeanne Muse
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Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne W. Muse" <[email protected]>
Subject: Whitcomb Correction Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 09:00:38 -0400 To: [email protected]
Oops!! This is wrong - I missed a generation here: >>I descend directly from Josiah's brother, Jonathan Whitcomb, and his wife Mary Blood. Anyone needing more Whitcomb information, let me know.<<
It should be: John-1 Whitcomb & Frances Coggin Jonathan-2 Whitcomb & Hannah Lewis Jonathan-3 Whitcomb & Mary Blood
- -) Jeanne
Sender: [email protected]
From: "Jeanne W. Muse" <[email protected]>
Subject: Genealogy Joke
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 10:03:27 -0400
To: [email protected]
WRG: My brother-in-law is always giving me grief about my passion in genealogy. I guess that's why he sent me this joke. Don't want to offend anybody -- It's a little off-color, but should give some of you a laugh.
Here it is: entitled "Lineage of Jack Schitt Revealed!"
Many people are at a loss for a response when someone says "You don't know
Jack Schitt." Now, you can handle the situation.
Jack is the only sone of Awe Schitt and O. Schitt. Awe Schitt, the fertilizer magnate, married O. Schitt, the owner of Knee-Deep Schitt, Inc.
In turn, Jack Schitt married Noe Schitt and the deeply religious coupld produced 6 children: Helle Schitt, the twins Deep Schitt and Dip Schitt, Fulla Schitt, Giva Schitt, and Bull Schitt, a high school dropout.
After being married for 15 years, Jack and Noe divorced. Noe later married Mr. Scherlock and because her kids were living with them, she wanted to keep her preveious name. She was known as Noe Schitt-Sherlock.
Dip Schitt married Loda, and they produced a cowardly son, Chicken Schitt. Fulla Schitt and Giva Schitt were inseparable throughout childhood and, consequently, married the Happens brothers in a dual ceremony.
The Schitt-Happens children are Dawg, Byrd, and Horse. Bull Schitt, the prodigal son, left home to tour the world. He recently returned with his new bride, Pisa Schitt.
Now, when someone says "You don't know Jack Schitt" you can correct them.
From: "Mary & Jack Landkamer" <[email protected]>
Subject: Amos Whitney - Anna Weston
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 11:26:48 -0500
To: [email protected]
I believe my ancestor was Amos Whitney born 1852, married Anna Weston in 1876, married 2nd to Mary Smith 1890 at Buxton, moved Newburg, Maine about 1803, died there intestate 1806. Amos was the father of my Ephraim Whitney born 1780, Ephraim married in 1805 to Keziah Moffat at College Town, recorded at Hampden, Maine. Ephraim and family moved to Tuscarwarus Co. Ohio about 1817. Thank you, Mary Landkamer
From: WhitneyMR <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 13:12:46 EDT Subject: Fwd: Bogus ``Not on the accept list notices
boundary="part0_894215566_boundary"
If we have any new folks who could post in the last day or so please try again. If you still can't let me know.
Michael Whitney
air-za04.mail.aol.com (v42.4) with SMTP; Sat, 02 May 1998 18:54:11
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by rly-za03.mx.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0)
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Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 15:51:48 -0700 From: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Subject: Bogus ``Not on the accept list notices To: [email protected]
Hi, all --
Your friendly local general hacker pulled a major ``oops yesterday.
In a nutshell, here's what happened: I wrote a global unsubscribe tool for removing problem addresses from all mailing lists on the systems. It actually works pretty well, but the first version turns out to have a nasty bug: it changed every list so that new subscribers to the list couldn't post. Every list on our systems.
I spent this morning fixing the problem, and I think that I've taken care of all the lists. However, if you start getting any phantom ``not on the accept list messages for your list, and you don't know why, let me know straightaway so I can fix it.
Thanks for your patience --
Regards, Tim Pierce RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative volunteer sysadmin and general hacker
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 20:42:16 From: "Robert L. Ward" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Amos Whitney - Anna Weston To: [email protected]
At 11:26 AM 5/3/98 -0500, Mary & Jack Landkamer wrote: >I believe my ancestor was Amos Whitney born 1852, married Anna Weston in >1876, married 2nd to Mary Smith 1890 at Buxton, moved Newburg, Maine about >1803, died there intestate 1806. Amos was the father of my Ephraim Whitney >born 1780, Ephraim married in 1805 to Keziah Moffat at College Town, >recorded at Hampden, Maine. Ephraim and family moved to Tuscarwarus Co. >Ohio about 1817. Thank you, Mary Landkamer
See <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/john/john67.html#i999> for the family and ancestry of Amos-5 WHITNEY above.
Regards,
Robert
Robert L. Ward [email protected] http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659
From: LindaDeWld <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 14:49:28 EDT Subject: Whitney / John CT To: [email protected]
Jeanne - you gave me information regarding there being two children named John born to John Whitney and Eliz Smith. You stated that a particular document mentioned only the one John. I lost the print out and can't remember the document you referred to.
Sorry I'm so disorganized. Could you please say again.
Thanks Linda D.
From: ALLAGREEN <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 15:03:36 EDT Subject: Children of Wm. D. Whitney & Eliz. Baldwin To: [email protected]
Dear WRG:
In looking through the material from the Farnsworth Memorial, I have noticed some discrepancies between the material cited late in the document I previously forwarded (for me, p. 5 as I printed it out), referring to the children of Prof. William Dwight Whitney of Yale and his wife, Elizabeth Worster/Wooster Baldwin, and that previously included in our database. I have no idea which source has the more accurate inforation, but as I was entering it into Whitny12, the differences became apparent. They are:
1) Child No. 2 in FM is given as Williston Dwight Whitney, and in the DB as Williston
Clap Whitney
2) Child No. 3 in FM is given as Micah (assumedly male) Parker Whitney, and in the
DB as Marian (assumedly female) Parker Whitney.
3) Child No. 4 in FM is given as Roger Sherman Whitney, and in the DB as Roger
Sherman Baldwin Whitney.
Again, I am not criticizing either source - I have no way of determining which data is the more accurate. It may well be that one is right on one element and not on another and vice versa. I'm just looking for help in getting it straight.
Happy Hunting;-)
Allan
Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 14:59:43 -0500 From: Marika Kolb <[email protected]> Subject: gaps To: [email protected]
Just trying to fill in some gaps. I have a John Whitney b. 20 Jul 1592 who married Elinor/Ellen 24 May 1618. What is her last name? Born and married in England.
Marika
From: Farns10th <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 16:12:33 EDT Subject: Re: Children of Wm. D. Whitney & Eliz. Baldwin To: [email protected]
And what is the source for each entry in your database?
Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 16:05:59 -0500 From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]> Sender: Tim Doyle <[email protected]> Subject: Re: gaps To: [email protected]
On Tue, 5 May 1998, Marika Kolb wrote:
> Just trying to fill in some gaps. I have a John Whitney b. 20 Jul 1592 > who married Elinor/Ellen 24 May 1618. What is her last name? Born and > married in England.
Unfortunately, we have not been able to determine Elinor's surname after extensive searching. We have not been able to locate their marriage record, so I question what your source is for their marriage date. If you've located or can give us information which helps us to track down this marriage record, you'd make many researchers very happy.
Tim Doyle - [email protected]
WWW homepage: http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ ftp directory: ftp.doit.com pub/tdoyle
Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 16:15:06 -0500 From: Marika Kolb <[email protected]> Subject: John & Elinor To: [email protected]
John Whitney: b.20 Jul 1592 St. Margaret's, Westminster, London, England d.1 Jun 1673 Watertown, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts
Elinor b.1599 St. Margaret's, Westminster, London, England d.11 May 1659 Watertown, Massachuesettes
married:24 May 1618 London, London, Middlesex, England
I got this info from a cousin, but where she got it, I have no idea.
Marika
Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 16:47:00 -0500 From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: John & Elinor To: [email protected]
On Tue, 5 May 1998, Marika Kolb wrote:
> John Whitney: > b.20 Jul 1592 St. Margaret's, Westminster, London, England
This is his christening date, not birth, but the information is correct as listed at http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/gb/stmargarets.html.
> d.1 Jun 1673 Watertown, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts
Correct as listed at http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/mass/watertown.html
> Elinor b.1599 St. Margaret's, Westminster, London, England
We've not found Elinor's birthdate nor birthplace. This date is probably an estimated date only, and the location is also probably a guess - Westminster was the first place we find Elinor.
> d.11 May 1659 Watertown, Massachuesettes
Correct as found at http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/mass/watertown.html
> married:24 May 1618 London, London, Middlesex, England
If this record exists, we have not been able to locate it.
> I got this info from a cousin, but where she got it, I have no idea.
The next time you talk to this cousin, ask her what her sources are and let us know. It's always possible someone somewhere has discovered this record.
Tim Doyle - [email protected]
WWW homepage: http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ ftp directory: ftp.doit.com pub/tdoyle
From: LindaDeWld <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 19:14:09 EDT Subject: more Whitney NY Civil War stuff To: [email protected]
http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyotsego/garposts.htm
Grand Army of the Republic Otsego County Posts Department of New York Compiled by D.A. Ellis 1892
Members of Otsego County G.A.R. Posts Department of New York Col. Olcott Post, No. 522 Portlandville, New York
Officer Rank Dustin WHITNEY Officer of the Day
Member List Name Co. and Unit WHITNEY, Dustin W.G, 144 N. Y.
Members of Otsego County G.A.R. Posts Department of New York Shepherd Post No. 189 Otego, New York
Member List Name Co. and Unit WHITNEY, Walter B, 90 N. Y. WHITNEY, J.H.K,76 N.Y.
In Memoriam Name Co. and Unit WHITNEY, WilliamG, 152 N. Y.
____________________________________________________ ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/civilwar/nycw0001.txt
New York Civil War Soldiers Buried in the Military Asylum Cemetery, Washington, D.C.
WHITNEY, K. D., Private, 24th NY Regt., Co. K, died Oct. 22, 1862
WHITNEY, Erastus, Private, 55th NY Regt., Co. G, died Sept. 4, 1861
WHITNEY, O., Private, 112th NY Regt., Co. H, died Nov. 11, 1863
Linda D.
From: "Mary & Jack Landkamer" <[email protected]> Subject: Amos Whitney & Anna Weston family Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 19:39:45 -0500 To: [email protected]
Amos Whitney born 22 April 1752 York Co. Maine, Marriage intentions to Anna Weston 5th of October 1776 Gorham, Maine had the following children: Mary born ca 1778 said to have married a Mr. Obear and moved to Michigan.
Ephraim Whitney born about 1780, married Keziah Moffatt 24th of Nov. 1805, recorded Hampden, Maine.
Their children: Ephraim Whitney, Jr. born 7th of Sept. 1807 Newburg,
Maine, Sylvia born about 1812,
Amos about 1814, and Eliza born about 1818. Moved to Tuscawaras
County, Ohio about 1817/18. On
the 1850 census Ephraim Whitney, Sr. age 70, was living with his
daughter, Eliza (Whitney) Bennett in
Tuscawaras Co. Ohio.
Robinson Whitney born about 1782 married Else (Chadburn) Shurburn (Widow of Samuel) about 1812 -no record found. They lived at Newburg, Maine where Robinson died 22nd of July 1867. Their children were Else Whitney born 28 Sept. 1813, John Chadbourn Whitney born 26 June 1816, Amos Whitney born 25th of January 1819 and Eliza Whitney born 2nd of July 1823.
Sarah Whitney born January 1783 married John York 18th of April 1806.Marriage recorded Hampden, Maine. She died 8th of March 1857 in Newburg, aged 74 years, 2 months. Buried Lufkin Cemetery, Newburg. John York died in Newburg 225th of April 1862, age 79 years. Had daughters, Jane, Nancy, and Mary E. and probably others not known at this time.
William Warren Whitney born April 1786 married intentions Dec. 31, 1808 Hampden, Maine to Nancy Simpson. They moved before 1820 to Hamilton County, Ohio where he died August 1850. Children not known except for one daughter, Mary Jane.
Anna Weston Whitney, died before 1790 when Amos (1752) married second to Mary Smith. Their children as far as known were: John Whitney born 1st of May 1791, married Betsey Fairbanks 25th of Dec. 1813 at Newburg, Maine where they lived out their lives. He died 2nd of Oct. 1877 and she died 4th of May 1877. Their children were Calvin Harlow Whitney, 22 Nov. 1814; Mary Jane Whitney, 1st of Febr. 1817, John
Fairbanks Whitney 3rd of June 1819 died 11th Dec. 1819; Susan
Elizabeth Whitney, 4th of Nov. 1820; John Fairbank Whitney 26 March 1823; Nancy Angeline Whitney 8th Aug. 1825; George Washinton Whitney 10 August 1827; Charles Henry Whitney 29 May 1831; Warren Lincoln
Whitney, 10th of April 1834, and Anna Augusta Whitney 2nd of Oct.
1839.
Betsey Whitney born about 1793- she chose her guardian in 1808-nothing further known.
Ruth Whitney born 9th Dec. 1799 at Buxton, married John Fairbanks about 1818, lived at Dixmont , had eight childddren.
Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 21:04:37 -0400 From: "Loren J. McCullough" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Children of Wm. D. Whitney & Eliz. Baldwin References: <[email protected]> To: [email protected]
According to the Baldwin Genealogy (C. C. Baldwin - 1881) the family is as follows: (this is an exact transacription)
Elizabeth Wooster6 Roger S.5 Simeon4 Ebenezer3 Thomas2 John1) b. in New Haven, Conn.; m. Prof. William Dwight Whitney, Ph. D., LL.D.. He was b. Feb. 29 1829; s. of Josiah D. and Sarah (Williston) Whitney. Graduated at Williams, 1845; m. Aug. 28, 1856.
Edward Baldwin, Aug. 16, 1857. Williston Clapp, Spril 2, 1859; d. March 11, 1861. Marion Parker, Feb. 6, 1861, (by misprint in the Prescott Memorial, Micah) Roger Sherman Baldwin, Jan. 6, 1863; drowned while skating on Mill river, New
Haven, Jan. 17, 1874.
Emily Henrietta, Aug. 29, 1864. Margaret Dwight, Nov. 19, 1866.
(I am obliged to Dwight Genealogy for Dates.)
The 1889 supplement follows:
Elizabeth Wooster6 Roger S.5 Simeon4 Ebenezer3 Thomas2 John1, m., stated Prof. William Dwight Whitney, Ph.D., LL.D.
Edward Baldwin, Aug. 16, 1857; grad. Yale, 1878; Hamilton Col. Law School,
1880; lawyer in N.Y. City, (Burnett & Whitney.)
Williston Clap, April 2, 1859; d. March 11, 1861. Marian Parker. Roger S. Baldwin, Jan'y 6, 1863; drowned Jan'y 17, 1974. Emily Henrietta, Aug. 29, 1864. Margaret Dwight, Nov. 19, 1866.
The difference here seems to be the spelling of Marion/Marian just to add to the confusion.
ALLAGREEN wrote:
> Dear WRG: > > In looking through the material from the Farnsworth Memorial, I have noticed > some discrepancies between the material cited late in the document I > previously forwarded (for me, p. 5 as I printed it out), referring to the > children of Prof. William Dwight Whitney of Yale and his wife, Elizabeth > Worster/Wooster Baldwin, and that previously included in our database. I have > no idea which source has the more accurate inforation, but as I was entering > it into Whitny12, the differences became apparent. They are: > > 1) Child No. 2 in FM is given as Williston Dwight Whitney, and in the DB as > Williston > Clap Whitney > 2) Child No. 3 in FM is given as Micah (assumedly male) Parker Whitney, and > in the > DB as Marian (assumedly female) Parker Whitney. > 3) Child No. 4 in FM is given as Roger Sherman Whitney, and in the DB as > Roger > Sherman Baldwin Whitney. > > Again, I am not criticizing either source - I have no way of determining which > data is the more accurate. It may well be that one is right on one element > and not on another and vice versa. I'm just looking for help in getting it > straight. > > Happy Hunting;-) > > Allan
Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 21:11:26 -0400 From: "Loren J. McCullough" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Children of Wm. D. Whitney & Eliz. Baldwin References: <[email protected]> To: [email protected]
(Sorry, hit the send button by mistake.) complete text is below.
According to the Baldwin Genealogy (C. C. Baldwin - 1881) the family is as
follows: (this is an exact transacription)
Elizabeth Wooster6 Roger S.5 Simeon4 Ebenezer3 Thomas2 John1) b. in New Haven, Conn.; m. Prof. William Dwight Whitney, Ph. D., LL.D.; since 1854, Professor of Sanscrit in Yale College; the well-known author of "Language and the Study of Language," "Oriental and Linguistic Studies," as well as other learned works. He was b. Feb. 29 1829; s. of Josiah D. and Sarah (Williston) Whitney. Graduated at Williams, 1845; m. Aug. 28, 1856.
Edward Baldwin, Aug. 16, 1857. Williston Clapp, Spril 2, 1859; d. March 11, 1861. Marion Parker, Feb. 6, 1861, (by misprint in the Prescott Memorial, Micah) Roger Sherman Baldwin, Jan. 6, 1863; drowned while skating on Mill river, New
Haven, Jan. 17, 1874.
Emily Henrietta, Aug. 29, 1864. Margaret Dwight, Nov. 19, 1866.
(I am obliged to Dwight Genealogy for Dates.)
The 1889 supplement follows:
Elizabeth Wooster6 Roger S.5 Simeon4 Ebenezer3 Thomas2 John1, m., as stated Prof. William Dwight Whitney, Ph.D., LL.D., since 1854 the Professor in Yale College, and the author of numerous able works on linguistic subjects.
Edward Baldwin, Aug. 16, 1857; grad. Yale, 1878; Hamilton Col. Law School,
1880; lawyer in N.Y. City, (Burnett & Whitney.)
Williston Clap, April 2, 1859; d. March 11, 1861. Marian Parker. Roger S. Baldwin, Jan'y 6, 1863; drowned Jan'y 17, 1974. Emily Henrietta, Aug. 29, 1864. Margaret Dwight, Nov. 19, 1866.
The difference here seems to be the spelling of Marion/Marian just to add to the confusion.
Loren McCullough
ALLAGREEN wrote:
> Dear WRG: > > In looking through the material from the Farnsworth Memorial, I have noticed > some discrepancies between the material cited late in the document I > previously forwarded (for me, p. 5 as I printed it out), referring to the > children of Prof. William Dwight Whitney of Yale and his wife, Elizabeth > Worster/Wooster Baldwin, and that previously included in our database. I have > no idea which source has the more accurate inforation, but as I was entering > it into Whitny12, the differences became apparent. They are: > > 1) Child No. 2 in FM is given as Williston Dwight Whitney, and in the DB as > Williston > Clap Whitney > 2) Child No. 3 in FM is given as Micah (assumedly male) Parker Whitney, and > in the > DB as Marian (assumedly female) Parker Whitney. > 3) Child No. 4 in FM is given as Roger Sherman Whitney, and in the DB as > Roger > Sherman Baldwin Whitney. > > Again, I am not criticizing either source - I have no way of determining which > data is the more accurate. It may well be that one is right on one element > and not on another and vice versa. I'm just looking for help in getting it > straight. > > Happy Hunting;-) > > Allan
From: "Glenn Barnett" <[email protected]>
Subject: Family Line Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 22:25:01 -0500 To: [email protected]
Does anyone's family line follow the same as mine. So far I have seen many lines but never one to follow mine. Thanks for any replys.....Sharon <[email protected]>
Thomas Whitney and Mary Bray John Whitney b 1589 and Elinor Benjamin Whitney b 1643 and Jane Nathaniel Whitney b 1680 and Sarah Ford Nathan Whitney b 1706/7 and Lydia Young Abel Whitney b 1734 and Thankful Morton Levi Whitney b 1779 and Happy Higgins Obidiah Whitney b 1809 and Louise Bangs Isaac Whitney b 1841 and Libby Varney Willis Whitney b1869 and Ida Stevens Allan Whitney b 1895 and Emma MacDonald
From: ALLAGREEN <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 08:17:30 EDT Subject: Whitney Obituary To: [email protected]
Dear WRG:
In the continuing series of genealogical gleanings and obituaries being published on NE-Roots, I have found this.
from the Brattleboro Reformer Brattleboro, Windham County, VT. 1925
JULIUS WHITNEY DIES AT AGE 89
Was Civil War Veteral and Former Long-Time Foreman in Reed Department at Estey Organ Plant
Julius Whitney, 89, a Frand Army veteran and formerly for many years
foreman of the reed department at the Estey Organ plant, died about 3 o'clock yesterday afternoon in his home at 97 Green street. Death was due to advanced age and hardening of the arteries. His decline had been marked since the middle of March, but he was not confined to his bed at all.
Mr. Whitney was born in Ashby, Mass., May 28, 1836, and was the last
survivor of a family of 10 children of Jonas and Rebecca (Piper) Whitney. His father was a pipe organ maker and moved his business and family to Springfield, Mass., when Mr. Whitney was nine years old, going three years later to Fitchburg, Mass.
On July 19, 1861, Mr. Whitney enlisted in Company D, 21st
Massachusetts Volunteers, and was made a sergeant at camp in Worcester, in time becoming first lieutenant. He was twice wounded, but not seriously, at Cold Harbor, and was mustered out Aug. 20, 1864.
After the war Mr. Whitney engaged in carpentering. He married Harriet
A. Downe in Fitchburg, Feb. 25, 1864. Her death occurred in December of the following year. Mr. Whitney came to Brattleboro in January, 1866, and entered the employ of the Estey Organ Co., and on Oct. 18, of that year married Mary J. Whitney of Westminster, Mass. They began housekeeping in what years afterward was known as Reed's castle on Green street.
After working for the Estey Organ Co., about nine years the factory
then being on the old Brattleboro House site, near Whetstone bridge, Mr. Whitney was employed until 1890 by his brother, the late Josiah D. Whitney of this place, in the manufacture of reed making machinery in Harmony block. He then returned to to the employ of the Estey Co., and was foreman of the reed department 17 years, retiring in 1907. Mrs. Whitney died March 4, 1920.
Mr. Whitney leaves two sons, one by each marriage. They are Herbert
P. Whitney of Fitchburg and Louis A. Whitney of Brattleboro. Since 1920 Mr. and Mrs. Louis A. Whitney have lived with him and cared for him.
He was an expert workman and never slighted any detail of any piece of
furniture of inlaid design in the family'spossession are marvels of painstaking workmanship. He was a man of integrity, devoted to his family, and was solicitous not for his own comfort but for that of those around him. He had been a member of Sedgwick post, G.A.R. since 1868.
Funeral services will be held in the home at 4 o'clock tomoreow, Rev.
Dr. Herbert P. Woodin, pastor of the Centre Congregational church, officiating. The body will be taken to Fitchburg for burial Saturday in Laurel Hill cemetery.
Allan E. Green
From: Barbara Sullivan <[email protected]> Subject: George Sanders WHITNEY Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 18:39:50 -0400 To: [email protected]
Looking for anyone researching the line below:
George Sanders WHITNEY (b. 17Apr1819in Jaffrey (Cheshire), NH; d. 28Aug1863 in Glens Falls (Warren) NY; married Mary Eveline BARNARD (b. 16Oct1816 in Peru (Bennington County), VT; d. 31Dec1889 in Glens Falls, NY.
Children:
Charles Sanderson WHITNEY George Burton WHITNEY Stowell B. WHITNEY Lucy Evelyne WHITNEY Hyrum Edward WHITNEY Harriet Elizabeth WHITNEY Charles Zimri WHITNEY
Thanks, Barbara
From: ALLAGREEN <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 12:20:30 EDT Subject: VT and MA Vital Records To: [email protected]
Dear WRG:
I picked this up on NE-Roots, and thought it might be useful, particularly with respect to the VT records, of which we have little.
Allan
Here is some information for those who are searching Vermont and Mass families: They have VITAL RECORDS to 1908.
try the: Katherine Westwood,Genealogy Dept
Berkshire Athenaeum
1 Wendell Ave
Pittsfield, Mass 01201
phone: 413-499-9486
Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 12:21:21 -0500
From: Margie and George Parker <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: VT and MA Vital Records
To: [email protected]
At 12:20 PM 5/7/98 EDT, you wrote: >Dear WRG: > >I picked this up on NE-Roots, and thought it might be useful, particularly >with respect to the VT records, of which we have little. > >Allan > >Here is some information for those who are searching Vermont and Mass >families: >They have VITAL RECORDS to 1908. > > > try the: Katherine Westwood,Genealogy Dept > Berkshire Athenaeum > 1 Wendell Ave > Pittsfield, Mass 01201 >phone: 413-499-9486 > > > >
If you are in Vermont, There is a records depository in Middlesex (five miles northwest of Montpelier on I-89). They have recently microfilmed the records they had on index cards. These cards were submitted by Town Clerks (back in the 30s?) and include repeat of town records and in some cases information from cemeteries.
George Parker
Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 16:34:36 -0600 From: Kristina Whitney <[email protected]> Subject: Geneology Organization: BYU Purchasing Department To: [email protected]
I have recently married into the Whitney family. My husbands family cannot figure out their geneology. They believe that they were some how tied in with the Mormon colonies in Mexico. Does anyone have much information on this group?
-- Kristina Whitney BYU Purchasing Department C-144 ASB Provo, UT 84602 ph: 801-378-7009 fax: 801-378-7455 E-mail: [email protected]
From: LindaDeWld <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 19:08:54 EDT
Subject: Whitney -Buffalo NY 1832
To: [email protected]
BUFFALO NY 1832 DIRECTORY http://www.angelfire.com/ny/WNYSampson/Buffalo1832x.html
Whitney, W.A. Whitney, Zerah
Linda D
From: KimberSch <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 03:05:35 EDT Subject: Whitney in CA To: [email protected]
Hi, I have an Anita Grove Whitney born June 1865 In NY (Father in NY - Mother in NY)
+Justus (Justice?) Herbert Williams born June 1864 In Michigan (Father in
NY - Mother in Ohio) Children all born in CA were: Anita L. Williams b. 7-1886 Herbert C. Williams b. 5-1888 Ethel C. Williams b. 6-1889 Howard E. Williams b. 1-1894 Also, In this 1900 CA census there is a Mary C. Ball (Mother) born Aug. 1835 (Age 64) Living with them. Born in Ohio. Father born in NY - Mother in NY Anyone have something to go with this? Kim [email protected] (253)445-1827
From: ALLAGREEN <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 07:07:23 EDT Subject: William & Anna Whitney marriage date?? To: [email protected]
Dear WRG:
In browsing the Whitny12 database, I've come upon a marriage record for a William Whitney, b. 1795 in Limington, ME, married to an Anna Hancock. In the db her birth date is given as 30 Sep 1798 in Buxton, ME, and their marriage is dated 25 Oct 1798, less than a month after her birth. I suspect that someone had just typed her birthdate, and when entering the marriage, inadvertently typed the same year. It would make good sense for the marriage to be 1818, as the first child was born in 1819.
Perhaps the person who supplied this data to Jon Aston for inclusion in the db would be good enough to contact me about this date, and copy Jon ([email protected]) with the response.
Allan E. Green
Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 07:01:25 -0700 From: sherrill madden <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Whitney in CA To: [email protected]
not me .. At 03:05 AM 5/8/98 EDT, KimberSch wrote: >Hi, >I have an Anita Grove Whitney born June 1865 In NY (Father in NY - Mother in >NY) > +Justus (Justice?) Herbert Williams born June 1864 In Michigan (Father in >NY - Mother in Ohio) >Children all born in CA were: >Anita L. Williams b. 7-1886 >Herbert C. Williams b. 5-1888 >Ethel C. Williams b. 6-1889 >Howard E. Williams b. 1-1894 >Also, In this 1900 CA census there is a Mary C. Ball (Mother) born Aug. 1835 >(Age 64) Living with them. Born in Ohio. Father born in NY - Mother in >NY >Anyone have something to go with this? >Kim >[email protected] >(253)445-1827 > > Sherrill Madden
"Words form the thread on which we string our experience." Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
Seeking : COX [KS, CA] ~ QUAY [NY, MI, IN] ~ SHUEY [IA] southeastern US: MADDEN, SHIRLEY (Myra Maybelle SHIRLEY aka: Belle Starr)] Erie/Niagara/St. Lawrence Co's NY: MORRELL, ROSCOE, TAYLOR, TUCKER, WHITNEY
From: "Whitney, Carol" <[email protected]> Subject: searching Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 12:21:42 -0400 To: [email protected]
List --
I am a new subscriber, looking for info on my paternal grandparents.
My grandfather was James Cyril (perhaps Thomas on some records) Whitney, born July 1, 1898, in Sutton, County of Chesire (or Chester?), perhaps at 93 Georgia St., Macclesfield. (I may not have this in the right order.) His father was Herbert Thomas Whitney, a silkweaver or tatter, and his mother was Sarah Berisford. They apparently had other children -- I think my grandfather may have been the eldest. The family emigrated to the U.S. around 1906, ultimately settling in the Paterson/Passaic, NJ, area. Grandpa became a naturalized citizen on June 23, 1921 in Passaic. His social security number is from New York, so the family may have lived there at some point, but at some point he lived at 345 Market St. in Paterson.
He married my grandmother, Grayce O'Connell, born June 10, 1902, on October 17, 1923. Her parents were Charles E. O'Connell and Eleanor E. Bowman (died 1939?). (Her social security number is from NJ, if it matters.)
Grandpa died in July 1978; my grandma followed in Nov. 1991. They had one son, my father James (Jay) Edward Whitney, born in 1926 and still alive today, but fuzzy on the family history.
Apparently my grandfather became estranged from his family as a young man. I don't know any of the details -- in fact I wasn't aware that he even had siblings until I was an adult. I believe some of them moved to New England.
Although born and raised in New Jersey, I now live in Watertown, Massachusetts. That I should, by chance, have landed in a town with a rich heritage of Whitneys is ironic. I would love to know if my branch of the family is related to any of them. I would also be happy to help any of the Watertown decendents with local research since it is, after all, easily accessible to me.
I have just begum my search and really have no clue as to how to proceed -- where to check next, etc. It seems that as far as grandpa is concerned I've got enough pertinent info to begin digging, but in the preliminary online searches I have performed I have not found any trace of this branch. Since I am the last Whitney in this line, any info and/or guidance you can offer would be most appreciated. Thanks.
Carol Whitney
From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 17:02:48 GMT Subject: RE: searching To: [email protected]
Carol,
Welcome! I am replying from Oxford, England! I have noted the details of your grandfather and I will see what I can find. There should certainly be a birth certificate. I have some Whitney contacts in Cheshire who might turn out to be related.
Be patient! It may take a while!
I may want to take up your offer of some research - a visit to the NEHGS in Newberry Street. By the way, have you looked in the Boston Public Lib. yet - they have some interesting Whitney stuff!
Regards
John Whitney
From: LindaDeWld <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 15:28:37 EDT Subject: Misc Whitney To: [email protected]
CIVIL WAR VETERANS DISCHARGES
Recorded at Bowling Green, Ohio Court House
NAME PLACE BORN DISCHRG. DATE
Whitney, William Attica, Ny. Feb. 10, 1899
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A 1763 List of the Freeholders in Westchester County, NY
Salem:
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dem John Watts Westchester returned into the Clerk's office & others [vs.] according to a Rule of the Supreme Court in
Elisha Avery this Cause
February 28, 1763
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Secretary's office New York 4 March 1763
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From: ALLAGREEN <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 16:42:23 EDT Subject: Re: William and Anna Whitney Marriage Date To: [email protected]
Dear WRG:
I have heard back from the author of the (as I suspected) typo in the marriage date for the above in Whitny12 - as follows:
>The source for information on William(William, Abner, John, >Isaiah, Thomas, John) is "Early Families of Standish, Maine" Albert J. >Sears. The marriage date is 25 Oct 1818, probably Buxton, ME(brides >hometown), groom was from Standish. The other dates are correct.
I also received an envelope today from Stephen Whitney with two beautiful photos in it - one of Whitney Court, the "manor house" at Whitney-on-Wye in Hereford, and the other of the Church of St. Peter and St. Paul in the Village of Whitney- on-Wye. I had a picture of my own of the church, but this one is much better. I had never gone to see Whitney Court, as my inquiries locally indicated that the current family in residence had neither any connection to nor any interest in the Whitneys. This picture of the house (both, maybe) is taken from a postcard printed ca 1930. Is there one among the WRG with a Web Site that would like to post either or both of these pictures (giving credit to Stephen Whitney, of course)? If so, I'll try to see if I can't get them scanned and send them electronically.
Happy Hunting:-)
Allan
From: LindaDeWld <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 22:37:40 EDT Subject: Whitney Mexican-American War To: [email protected]
Company E 3rd Indiana Regiment 1846
Company E of the Third Indiana Regiment was organized for duty in the Mexican-American War by Captain James Taggart in Nashville Indiana in June 1846.
Whitney, Theodore (d.bv)
d.bv = Discharged after Buena Vista;
Linda
From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 23:28:03 -0500 Subject: Re: Correction/Addition To: [email protected]
Below is information on the unknown Fillmore who married Julia A. Baldwin.
Hiram Fillmore was born on April 6, 1801 at Paris, Oneida Co., New York. He lived at Michigan. Hiram married Julia A. (Baldwin) Webster, widow of Dr. Webster, daughter of Dr. Baldwin of Onondaga Co., New York. According to our records they had no children.
Gwen Romine - Researching descendants of John Fillmore & Abigail Tilton
Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 03:20:41 -0400 From: "Debbie J. Stlelmach" <[email protected]>
Subject: MA Vital records online Sender: "Debbie J. Stlelmach" <[email protected]> To: [email protected]
Hello Whitney cousins,
Ancestry's web site (www.ancestry.com) adds new searchable databases each day. They remain online for one week of free browsing. After that, you can only browse after paying Ancestry a regular fee.
This week, they are featuring Massachusetts Town Vital Records which include the towns of New Bedford and Dartmouth and others. When I checked, there were over 1000 hits on Whitneys. Their selection doesn't appear to be a complete list but its a start.
If you've had a hard time locating records from MA, here's your chance. The search engine only searches for last name. You cannot search by lastname, firstname. The good part is, the search will pick up any record with "Whitneyr" including those with Whitney firstnames, middle names, and maiden names
So check it out before the free browse time runs out and happy hunting.
Debbie Stelmach, Kailua, HI (Still trying to connect my Charles Whitney, b 1823 MA, living 1850's-1864 in Putnam Co, Ohio, 1864-1902 in Langford, Erie Co, NY)
Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 12:20:36
[email protected]
From: "Robert L. Ward" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: MA Vital records online To: [email protected]
At 03:20 AM 5/9/98 -0400, you wrote: >Hello Whitney cousins, > >Ancestry's web site (www.ancestry.com) adds new searchable databases each >day. They remain online for one week of free browsing. After that, you >can only browse after paying Ancestry a regular fee. > >This week, they are featuring Massachusetts Town Vital Records which >include the towns of New Bedford and Dartmouth and others. When I checked, >there were over 1000 hits on Whitneys. Their selection doesn't appear to be >a complete list but its a start. > >If you've had a hard time locating records from MA, here's your chance. >The search engine only searches for last name. You cannot search by >lastname, firstname. The good part is, the search will pick up any record >with "Whitneyr" including those with Whitney firstnames, middle names, and >maiden names > >So check it out before the free browse time runs out and happy hunting. > >Debbie Stelmach, Kailua, HI >(Still trying to connect my Charles Whitney, b 1823 MA, living 1850's-1864 >in Putnam Co, Ohio, 1864-1902 in Langford, Erie Co, NY)
The only entries you will find there which are not on my website are those with first or middle names equal to "Whitney". See
<http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/mass/index.html>
Regards,
Robert
Robert L. Ward [email protected] http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659
Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 10:26:31 -0700 From: carol <[email protected]> Subject: Whitney Family ,Windham County Vt To: [email protected]
Am researching my Whitney kin and still have many missing pieces to the puzzle. My great grandparents were William Henry Fuller and Flora Jane Whitney. Flora was born in 1864 to Lemuel Philip Whitney and Clarissa S. Carpenter. They appear in Windham county censuses and also list siblings for Clarissa S. of Lucius, Clarissa Loella, Ada, Willis and Wesley. I have recently learned that Lemuel Phillips parents were Phillip and Sarah Whitney. Phillip is thought to be son of Eleazer Whitney. Loella may have married a Richard Lake and Ada may have married Nathan Mann. Clarissa S. Carpenter was born in Vermont,probably in Windham County, but cannot establish her parents at this time. Grateful for any and all info, and hope that someone will recognize this family. Thanks!
From: "virginia & doug smith" <[email protected]>
Subject: definition of terms
Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 19:40:46 -0500
To: [email protected]
>From the registers of the Anglican Church in St. Armand West, Quebec,
December 10, 1834, Lemuel G. Whitney of Noyon bachelor harrier and
Catherine Elizabeth Conrow of St. Armand West, spinster were married by
banns .....
What does harrier mean. Is that Lemuel's profession? Looking in the dictionary, harrier is defined as "one who harriers, ravages or lays waste", a type of falcon, or a type of hound. Can anyone help?
From: ALLAGREEN <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 00:35:19 EDT Subject: Re: definition of terms To: [email protected]
Dear Virginia & Doug:
Could this possibly be a "farrier" or blacksmith, rather than a "harrier"? Sometimes a script "f" can get misread as an "h".
Allan E. Green
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 08:31:41 From: "Robert L. Ward" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: definition of terms To: [email protected]
At 07:40 PM 5/9/98 -0500, you wrote: > >>From the registers of the Anglican Church in St. Armand West, Quebec, >December 10, 1834, Lemuel G. Whitney of Noyon bachelor harrier and >Catherine Elizabeth Conrow of St. Armand West, spinster were married by >banns ..... > >What does harrier mean. Is that Lemuel's profession? Looking in the >dictionary, harrier is defined as "one who harriers, ravages or lays >waste", a type of falcon, or a type of hound. Can anyone help? It is definitely an occupation.
An obsolete definition of "harrier" is "drover". Under "drover" I find, "one who drives droves of cattle, sheep, etc., to market; a dealer in cattle."
Reference: _The Shorter Oxford English Dictionary_, 3rd edition (1955).
Regards,
Robert
Robert L. Ward [email protected] http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659
From: "Ann O'Hara" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: definition of terms Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 07:44:27 -0400 To: [email protected]
The Random House Dictionary defines a farrier as a veterinarian or one who cares for horses. For a complete definition, see a good dictionary.
Original Message-----
From: ALLAGREEN <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, May 10, 1998 12:36 AM Subject: Re: definition of terms
>Dear Virginia & Doug:
>
>Could this possibly be a "farrier" or blacksmith, rather than a "harrier"?
>Sometimes a script "f" can get misread as an "h".
>
>Allan E. Green
>
>
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 09:58:36 -0400 From: Sue Rood <[email protected]> Subject: Hiram Whitney To: [email protected]
The following Whitney item was in abstract form.
The Chautauqua Genealogist (Chautuaqua County, NY), Vol 21, #2, Spring (May),1998, p.36: The Justice Docket book of W.H.H. Fenton, 1845-1854: October 14th 1847...in Carroll...Hiram WHITNEY and Susan Prissilla KINISTON both of Carroll were married..both personally known to me..witnesses Samuel Kiniston and Smith D. Carroll both of... Carroll and both known by me Hiram Whitney age 24 years and Sisan P. Kiniston age 19 years.
I hope this helps someone. Sue
-- email: [email protected] http://www.ct.net/~roods Researching Canada/US: BROUSSEAU, HOYT/WEBSTER, SHAVER/VAN KUEREN US: BASSETT, BARTON/FAIRFIELD, KEOUGH, MOREY/THOMAS/DURYEE
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 17:31:31 -0600
From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]>
Subject: WHITNEY: Vermont Warnings Out
To: [email protected]
I extracted all indexed WHITNEYs from these books today:
Alden M. Rollins, Vermont Warnings Out, Vol. 1: Northern Vermont (Camden, Maine: Picton Press, 1995)
Alden M. Rollins, CGRS, Vermont Warnings Out, Vol. 2: Southern Vermont, Plus additions to Vol. 1: Northern Vermont (Camden, Maine: Picton Press, 199?)
Vol. 2, p. 306 Andover 11 May 1815 Watkins, Jehial, copy left with
Mrs. Whitney at Watkins abode
Vol. 1, p. 258 Tunbridge 27 Jul 1816 Whitney, Aaron and family
Vol. 1, p. 326 Northfield 20 Dec 1814 Whitney, Abel and family
Vol. 2, p. 352 Ludlow 26 Nov 1813 Whitney, Abigail
Vol. 2, p. 103 Pittsford 10 Mar 1814 Whitney, Abigail
Vol. 2, p. 249 Putney 1 Mar 1811 Whitney, Abraham
Vol. 1, p. 32 Bridport 3 Sep 1816 Whitney, Amy
Vol. 2, p. 362 Plymouth 18 Jul 1803 Whitney, Aphraim and family
Vol. 1, p. 159 Berkshire 26 Oct 1809 Whitney, Barrabas
Vol. 1, p. 49 Monkton 7 Sep 1815 Whitney, Barnabas, summons left
with wife
Vol. 1, p. 248 Thetford 8 Dec 1807 Whitney, Benjamin
Vol. 1, p. 210 Brookfield 2 Jun 1812 Whitney, Charles
Vol. 2, p. 241 Putney 4 Sep 1787 Whitney, Daniel and family
Vol. 2, p. 368 Plymouth 5 Sep 1815 Whitney, Daniel and all his family
Vol. 1, p. 101 Hardwick 4 Dec 1816 Whitney, David
Vol. 2, p. 175 Brookline 16 Feb 1816 Whitney, David E.
Vol. 2, p. 188 Dummerston 15 Aug 1817 Whitney, Edward
Vol. 2, p. 175 Brookline 22 Feb 1817 Whitney, Eleanor
Vol. 1, p. 325 Northfield 8 Dec 1810 Whitney, Elijah and family
Vol. 2, p. 74 Hubbardton 10 Oct 1812 Whitney, Elisha, Polly, Sarah,
and Lucy
Vol. 2, p. 104 Pittsford 2 Jul 1816 Whitney, Elisha and family
Vol. 2, p. 145 Athens 3 Sep 1810 Whitney, Ephraim and his wife Mary
Vol. 2, p. 148 Athens 3 Sep 1810 Whitney, Ephraim and his wife
Mary, warrant left with Nathaniel Stiles
Vol. 2, p. 273 Townshend 6 Oct 1813 Whitney, Ephraim and his wife Mary
Vol. 2, p. 146 Athens 30 May 1815 Whitney, Ephraim and his wife [?]
Vol. 2, p. 319 Bethel 15 Dec 1812 Whitney, Esaias and family
Vol. 2, p. 146 Athens Jun 1787 Whitney, Ezra, Agnes, Moses,
Rebeckah and Creche[?]
Vol. 1, p. 249 Thetford 19 Jul 1811 Whitney, Ezra
Vol. 2, p. 400 Weathersfield 16 Mar 1784 Whitney, Gershom, wife
Barhshaba, daughters Mercy and Polly
Vol. 2, p. 267 Rockingham 27 Feb 1817 Whitney, Henry, wife Milonda,
child George G.
Vol. 1, p. 159 Berkshire 26 Oct 1809 Whitney, Hezekiah
Vol. 1, p. 319 Montpelier 25 Nov 1813 Whitney, Hezekiah and family
Vol. 1, p. 322 Montpelier 21 Jun 1816 Whitney, Hezekiah
Vol. 1, p. 190 Cambridge 2 Dec 1809 Whitney, Ira and family
Vol. 1, p. 133 Colchester 11 Jan 1817 Whitney, Ira
Vol. 1, p. 294 Berlin 10 Sep 1812 Whitney, Isaac
Vol. 2, p. 276 Townshend 28 Dec 1813 Whitney, Isaac, wife Abigale,
son Daniel
Vol. 2, p. 394 Springfield 19 Dec 1814 Whitney, Isaac, wife Gabby,
children Daniel and Elener
Vol. 1, p. 258 Tunbridge 27 Jul 1816 Whitney, Isaac and family
Vol. 2, p. 243 Putney 3 Sep 1817 Whitney, Isaac
Vol. 1, p. 277 Craftsbury 8 Apr 1816 Whitney, James and family
Vol. 1, p. 276 Craftsbury 27 Apr 1815 Whitney, Job
Vol. 2, p. 139 Acton 18 Jan 1805 Whitney, Joel and family
Vol. 2, p. 46 Brandon 13 Jul 1814 Whitney, John
Vol. 1, p. 122 Walden 3 Dec 1814 Whitney, John
Vol. 2, p. 292 Westminster 27 Sep 1815 Whitney, John and family
Vol. 1, p. 214 Chelsea 30 Jul 1816 Whitney, John
Vol. 2, p. 294 Whitingham 7 Oct 1811 Whitney, John H.
Vol. 1, p. 157 Bakersfield 31 Dec 1812 Whitney, Jon and wife and family
Vol. 2, p. 223 Marlboro 12 Sep 1808 Smith, Thomas, warrant left with
Jonas Whitney, Esq.
Vol. 1, p. 190 Cambridge 2 Dec 1809 Whitney, Joseph and family
Vol. 1, p. 169 Highgate 4 Jun 1810 Whitney, Joseph
Vol. 1, p. 146 Underhill 10 Mar 1812 Whitney, Joseph and family
Vol. 2, p. 398 Stockbridge 9 Dec 1812 Whitney, Joseph
Vol. 2, p. 210 Halifax 20 Dec 1814 Whitney, Joseph
Vol. 1, p. 213 Brookfield 1 Jul 1817 Whitney, Joseph D., wife and family
Vol. 1, p. 32 Bridport 3 Sep 1816 Whitney, Joshua and family
Vol. 2, p. 323 Bridgewater 3 Mar 1817 Whitney, Joshua
Vol. 2, p. 159 Brattleboro 2 Jul 1811 Whitney, Lemual B.
Vol. 2, p. 270 Somerset 17 Feb 1813 Whitney, Levi, wife Senthy
Vol. 2, p. 187 Dummerston 30 Jan 1817 Whitney, Levi and family
Vol. 2, p. 188 Dummerston 15 Aug 1817 Whitney, Levi and family,
warrant left with wife
Vol. 2, p. 434 Burlington 3 May 1808 Whitney, Luther and Jerusha
Vol. 1, p. 67 Salisbury 2 Jan 1810 Whitney, Lydia
Vol. 2, p. 25 Peru 11 Apr 1803 Whitney, Mellen
Vol. 2, p. 292 Westminster 1 Jan 1816 Whitney, Moses and Abigail
("said to be his wife, otherwise Abigail Simons with her dau Sophronia")
Vol. 2, p. 171 Brookline 23 Sep 1807 Whitney, Nabby
Vol. 1, p. 310 Montpelier 5 Dec 1807 Whitney, Nathan (Deacon) and
family including apprentices
Vol. 1, p. 296 Calais 26 Dec 1808 Whitney, Nathan
Vol. 2, p. 60 Clarendon 13 Jan 1813 Whitney, Noah and family
Vol. 2, p. 319 Bethel 1 Jan 1812 Whitney, Peter and family
Vol. 1, p. 68 Salisbury 1 Nov 1814 Whitney, Phineas
Vol. 2, p. 364 Plymouth 15 Feb 1808 Whitney, Polly [?]
Vol. 2, p. 366 Plymouth 15 Feb 1808 Whitney, Polly
Vol. 2, p. 291 Westminster 29 Apr 1813 Whitney, Prolina [?]
Vol. 2, p. 144 Athens 13 Mar 1809 Whitney, Rufus
Vol. 2, p. 256 Rockingham 19 Jul 1809 Whitney, Rufus
Vol. 2, p. 205 Guilford 18 Jun 1815 Whitney, Russell
Vol. 2, p. 147 Athens 13 Mar 1809 Whitney, Ruth? [or Russ?],
warrant left with Mrs. Jacobs
Vol. 2, p. 163 Brattleboro 26 Dec 1814 Whitney, Sally
Vol. 1, p. 276 Craftsbury 27 Apr 1815 Whitney, Sally
Vol. 1, p. 131 Colchester 23 Apr 1808 Whitney, Samuel
Vol. 2, p. 295 Whitingham 2 Feb 1813 Whitney, Sarah
Vol. 2, p. 189 Grafton 15 Apr 1805 Whitney, Sartwell, Benjamin
[wife & ch listed], and Elizabeth Whitney, "mother to the above sd Sartwell"
Vol. 2, p. 354 Norwich 23 Dec 1808 Whitney, Susannah
Vol. 1, p. 159 Berkshire 26 Oct 1809 Whitney, Theodor
Vol. 1, p. 257 Tunbridge 30 Mar 1814 Whitney, Thomas and family
Vol. 2, p. 144 Athens 10 Mar 1817 Whitney, Timothy H. and his family
Vol. 2, p. 419 Windsor 8 Aug 1811 Whitney, Timothy, his wife and
family
Vol. 2, p. 63 Clarendon 5 Dec 1815 Whitney, William and family
I will be placing this list on my Whitney page on the web in the near future.
Tim Doyle http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ [email protected] ftp://ftp.doit.com/pub/tdoyle/
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 17:41:18 -0600 From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]> Subject: WHITNEY: Vermont 1771 Census To: [email protected]
I found and extracted the following:
Jay Mack Holbrook, Vermont 1771 Census (Oxford, Mass.: Holbrook Research Institute, 1982)
Whitney, Amos 1771 Guilford CN BRA850: 117 Whitney, Ephraim 1770 Cumberland Co PN OCA851: 667 Whitney, Ephraim 1770 Cumberland Co PN OCA851: 667 Whitney, Ephraim 1771 Guilford CN BRA850: 117 Whitney, Michael 1772 Socialborough RI OCA851: 830
NOTE: Forced Nichols off land
Whitney, Thomas 1771 Guilford CN BRA850: 117
Although I did not notice that the pages didn't have column titles until after I was home and couldn't see what each column means, it appears that the place listed may?? be the place of origin.
Tim Doyle http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ [email protected] ftp://ftp.doit.com/pub/tdoyle/
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 18:26:04 -0600 From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]>
Subject: WHITNEY: Vermont Soldiers To: [email protected]
Extracted from:
Major General Carleton Edward Fisher and Sue Gray Fisher, Soldiers, Sailors, and Patriots of the Revolutionary War - Vermont (Camden, Maine: Picton Press, 19??)
WHITNEY, Aaron, VT; r Springfield; Capt White's co 1781; 41, p 392.
WHITNEY, Abner, Ens, MA, b Newton, MA 1744; Col Wesson's regt 1777; d Springfield 1826; in Esther 1(S41324); CL-10, 52:169, CL-23, p 589; CL- 41; OS-35.
WHITNEY, Benjamin, Capt, VT; r Westminster, Cdr of co 1783; 18, p 129; 41, p 629; CL-23, p 589.
WHITNEY, Benjamin, Lt; unit not identified; r Putney, P-11, p 171.
WHITNEY, Benjamin, VT. r Dummerston; Capt Duncan's co 1782; 41, p 618.
WHITNEY, Daniel, MA, b c 1756; r Westford, MA; Capt Wyman's co 1775; r New Marlborough, MA; Westminster; Salisbury 1832; d Gorham, ME 1832; bur Salisbury?; 1(S18649); 9; CL-41; S-3a, p 334.
WHITNEY, David, CT, b Norfolk, CT 1757; r Canaan, CT; Capt Stanton's co 1775; r Addison; Bridport 1840; d Bridport 1850; in Eliza; she m Calvin Sollace; 1(W2013); 26, p 71; CL-41.
WHITNEY, David, VT; r Clarendon; Capt Salisbury's co 1780; 41, p 330.
WHITNEY, Ebenezer; b c 1754; service not identified; d Halifax 1840, CL-2.
WHITNEY, Eleazer, MA, b c 1758; r Brookfield, MA, Capt Drews' co 1781; m at Halifax 1784; r Halifax 1840, d 1840; m Martha; she r Halifax 1855; 1(W22611); 9; 26, p 66.
WHITNEY, Eleazer, VT; b 1725; r Westminster Capt Whitney's co 1783; d 1810; 41, p 630; CL-41.
WHITNEY, Elijah, Sgt, MA, VT; b Harvard, MA 1755; r Bolton, MA 1774; Putney 1775; Capt Clay's VT co, 1782; d Williamstown 1842; m Lydia; 1(S15707); 9; 41, p 804; CL-5, p 81; CL-10, 152:142.
WHITNEY, Elijah, VT; r Putney; Lt Johnson's co 1777; 41, p 40; P-11, p 171.
WHITNEY, Eliphalet, VT; r Marlboro; Capt Warren's co 1782; 41, p 807.
WHITNEY, Ephraim, Cont; r Fulham; Capt Boyden's co 1777, 41, p 37; G-5a, p 138.,
WHITNEY, Ephraim, Jr, VT; r Guilford; Guilford 1st co 1775; G-5a, p 138.
WHITNEY, John, Sgt, VT, r Rockingham; Capt Holton's co 1780, 41, p 198.
WHITNEY, Jonas, PS, VT; b 1751; r Marlboro; Selectman 1779; d 1842; bur Marlboro; m Tamar; CL-5, p 75; CL-8, 1:740; M-2, p?.
WHITNEY, Jonathan, Cpl, VT; b 1761; r Townshend; Capt Tyler's co 1780; d 1813, bur Hartford or Hartland; 41, p 316; CL-5, p 74; CL-41.
WHITNEY, Joseph, Cont, MA, b c 1756; r Pepperell, MA; Capt Watson's Cont co 1782, d Acworth, NH 1824; m Mary; she r Cambridge 1837; 1(W25985); 9.
WHITNEY, Joshua, Lt, CT, Green Mt Boys; b Canaan Co., CT 1750; Capt Rice's CT co 1777; d Bridport 1821; m Sally, 1(S41326); CL-10, 127:73; Not in VT Rolls.
WHITNEY, Joshua, NH; b c 1746; r Wendell, NH; Capt Emery's co 1776; d Bridgewater 1816; m Sarah; 15, 14:430; B-10, p 24.
WHITNEY, Lemuel, MA; b Leicester, MA 1743; r Spencer, MA; Capt Shem's co; r Tolland, CT 1778; d Springfield 1813; m Thankful; CL-10, 70:247; CL-11a, 105:833; CL-32; CL-41; S-12b, pp 501-2.
WHITNEY, Micah, Cont, VT; Capt Potter's cont co 1775; 41, p 5.
WHITNEY, Nathaniel, Capt, VT; b 1749; r Shrewsbury, MA; Marlboro 1772; Capt Warren's co 1782; d Marlboro 1829; m Mary; 41, p 807; CL-5, p 29; M-2a, pp 265-9; OS-109, Part 2a, pp 444-5.
WHITNEY, Oliver, MA, b 1744; r Natick, MA, Capt Morse's co 1775, m at Swansea, MA c 1779, d Cavendish 1813; m Hannah; 1(W20129); 91 CL-8, 1:740; CL-41; OS-279, p 61.
WHITNEY, Oliver, VT, b 1764; r Clarendon; Capt Robinson's co 1781; d 1826, m Abigail; 41, p 595; CL-8, 1:740.
WHITNEY, Peter, CT; b Willington, CT 1738; Capt Buckley's co, 1781; r Tunbridge 1820; d Tunbridge 1826 or 27, bur Bethel?; m Mercy; 1(S41330); CL-10, 166:276; CL-11a, 107:235; CL-41; OS-15a, p 114; OS-69, p 84; OS-90.
WHITNEY, Phinehas, MA, b Westminster, MA 1761; Capt Wilson's co 1777, r Chittenden; Pittsford?; Salisbury, Brandon 1832; m Elizabeth; 1(S22581); 9; CL-5, p 77; CL-8, 1:740.
WHITNEY, Richard; service not identified; bur Brookline; CL-5, p 19.
WHITNEY, Samuel; service not identified; bur Grafton; CL-5, p 72.
WHITNEY, Samuel, Jr, VT; b Shrewsbury, MA 1740; r Marlboro 1772; Capt White's co 1781; d Marlboro 1811; m Phebe; 41, p 392; CL-41; M-2a, pp 261-3; OS-107, Part 2a, pp 443-4.
WHITNEY, Silas, Clk, VT, b 1734 or 37, r Clarendon; Capt Robinson's co 1780, d 1813; bur Pittsfield; m Jane; 41, p 331; CL-8, 1:740.
WHITNEY, Silas; service not identified; bur Clarendon; CL-5, p 21; CL-11a, 104:962.
WHITNEY, Silas, Jr, VT; r Clarendon; Capt Salisbury's co 1777; 41, p 58.
Tim Doyle http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ [email protected] ftp://ftp.doit.com/pub/tdoyle/
From: DLilga <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 20:32:52 EDT Subject: Joan Marie Stevens To: [email protected]
I searched your database a few months ago and found
Joan Marie Stevens listed as the wife of Aaron Black. I searched today and Aaron Black is listed, but Joan is not. How did you lose this info?
- Dave Lilga
[email protected]
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 18:35:22 -0600 From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]> Subject: GLO Records now online To: [email protected]
This was sent to me on another list. I thought I'd post it here for all.
I'm sure you know about the GLO (General Land Office) Records. For the past few years they have been issuing state land record files on CD which the various Genealogy suppliers have been selling for prices of $19 and up. I found that I could purchase them directly from GLO for $15 each and have made a collection of most of them.
So far, there are eleven states listed: Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Minnesota, Ohio, and Wisconsin.
Yesterday I received a flyer from GLO announcing that they were now on the net and that I could search for any land grant that was on file and down load an image of the exact grant.
One woman said- "I did a search for a man named Samuel Boley in Carroll Co., Mo. One hit!!!!! I downloaded the grant and printed it out in its entirety. WOW!!! What a break through. GLO says that if I wish them to send me a certified copy it will cost me $1.50."
No longer will we need to buy the CD's. It's right here--- FREE!!
Check it out------ http://www.glorecords.blm.gov "
Tim Doyle http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ [email protected] ftp://ftp.doit.com/pub/tdoyle/
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 22:05:03 -0400 From: Bert Smith <[email protected]> Subject: Silas Whitney's "Railroad" Sender: Bert Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected]
To whom it may concern:
I just returned from an Early American Industries Association meeting in Scranton, PA. Part of the program involved a visit to STEAMTOWN, a National Historical Park dedicated to the history of railroading. In the museum I found the following notation:
1807 -- Silas Whitney opened a gravity and horsedrawn wooden tramway on Beacon Hill in Boston, Massachusetts. It is believed to be the first railway in the United States.
Does anyone on the list know anything about this Silas Whitney?
Bert Smith
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 21:36:59 -0400 From: Craig Beeman <[email protected]> Subject: Correction requested! To: [email protected]
Greetings Fellow WHITNEY Family Researchers & Cousins!
Please be so kind as to correct my grandfather's name to "George Bingham CRAIG" rather than keep it as was posted and found at:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~gumby/cgi-bin/igmget.cgi/n=Whitney?I07158
> Geroge Bingham Craig
>
>
>
> ID: I07158
> Sex: M
> Born: 1895
> Died: 1975
>
>
> Father: George Noah Craig, b. 1866
> Mother: Ida Adelia Brooks, b. 1869
>
> Family 1 Ada Bell Dory, b. 1901
>
>
> Links:
>
>
> Master Index |Pedigree Chart |Extract GEDCOM |Add a Link |Home Page
>
> Please send corrections, additions or comments to Whitney Discussion Group
Thank you most kindly!
TTYL
Craig
(Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c)
ID# 0-43988U2500L250S0) with SMTP id AAA145;
Mon, 11 May 1998 19:08:41 -0700
From: "Gene Graham" <[email protected]> To: "Tim Doyle" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: GLO Records now online Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 19:10:35 -0700
I tried the url in the attached message and got an error. I'm VERY interested in the site. Perhaps there's an alternate path...perhaps the GLS's homepage? Any help would be apprecieated. BTW, the Arkansas genweb site offers access to glo data for their state. I found reference to my gggrandfather's grant of a homestead, and was able to order a photocopy of the grant from the Dept. of the Interior. Great stuff!
Gene Graham http://www.tomatoweb.com/graham
Original Message-----
From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, May 10, 1998 5:31 PM Subject: GLO Records now online
>This was sent to me on another list. I thought I'd post it here for all.
>
>I'm sure you know about the GLO (General Land Office) Records.
>For the past few years they have been issuing state land record
>files on CD which the various Genealogy suppliers have been
>selling for prices of $19 and up. I found that I could purchase
>them directly from GLO for $15 each and have made a collection of
>most of them.
>
>So far, there are eleven states listed: Alabama, Arkansas,
>Florida, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri,
>Minnesota, Ohio, and Wisconsin.
>
>Yesterday I received a flyer from GLO announcing that they were
>now on the net and that I could search for any land grant that
>was on file and down load an image of the exact grant.
>
>One woman said- "I did a search for a man named Samuel Boley in
>Carroll Co., Mo. One hit!!!!! I downloaded the grant and printed
>it out in its entirety. WOW!!! What a break through. GLO says
>that if I wish them to send me a certified copy it will cost me
>$1.50."
>
>No longer will we need to buy the CD's. It's right here---
>FREE!!
>
> Check it out------ http://www.glorecords.blm.gov "
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>Tim Doyle http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/
>[email protected] ftp://ftp.doit.com/pub/tdoyle/
>
From: "Gene Graham" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: GLO Records now online Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 19:10:35 -0700 To: [email protected]
I tried the url in the attached message and got an error. I'm VERY interested in the site. Perhaps there's an alternate path...perhaps the GLS's homepage? Any help would be apprecieated. BTW, the Arkansas genweb site offers access to glo data for their state. I found reference to my gggrandfather's grant of a homestead, and was able to order a photocopy of the grant from the Dept. of the Interior. Great stuff!
Gene Graham http://www.tomatoweb.com/graham
Original Message-----
From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, May 10, 1998 5:31 PM Subject: GLO Records now online
>This was sent to me on another list. I thought I'd post it here for all.
>
>I'm sure you know about the GLO (General Land Office) Records.
>For the past few years they have been issuing state land record
>files on CD which the various Genealogy suppliers have been
>selling for prices of $19 and up. I found that I could purchase
>them directly from GLO for $15 each and have made a collection of
>most of them.
>
>So far, there are eleven states listed: Alabama, Arkansas,
>Florida, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri,
>Minnesota, Ohio, and Wisconsin.
>
>Yesterday I received a flyer from GLO announcing that they were
>now on the net and that I could search for any land grant that
>was on file and down load an image of the exact grant.
>
>One woman said- "I did a search for a man named Samuel Boley in
>Carroll Co., Mo. One hit!!!!! I downloaded the grant and printed
>it out in its entirety. WOW!!! What a break through. GLO says
>that if I wish them to send me a certified copy it will cost me
>$1.50."
>
>No longer will we need to buy the CD's. It's right here---
>FREE!!
>
> Check it out------ http://www.glorecords.blm.gov "
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>Tim Doyle http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/
>[email protected] ftp://ftp.doit.com/pub/tdoyle/
>
From: D MEHRER <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 13:31:41 EDT Subject: Virginia Greenwood Whitney To: [email protected]
Does anyone have this name in their file? She was born in ME about 1839 and married Lenard Fremon Rich in Lincoln, Monroe Co. Wis. 31 Oct 1864. She died 8 Feb 1902 in Junction City, Or. A James Whitney was living with the family at one time and may have been her father. Thanks Dorothy
From: "Robert Brower" <[email protected]> Subject: Charlotte Whitney - Samuel Brewer Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 19:22:53 -0400 To: [email protected]
Descendant of above couple, have their children, etc. Samuel was a farmer and stone mason, they lived in Haines Falls, Twn of Hunter, Greene Co.,NY. Charlotte was born May 21,1784 in Ct. to Ezekiel Whitney and Patience Bailey; Samuel was born in Westchester Co.,NY to Peter Brewer and Elizabeth Stone. Children: Jane b. 1804, Peter S. b.1806, Elizabeth b.1808, Nathan b.1811, Sally Ann b.1821, William H., b.1823, Harriet Caroline b.ca1821, others with no birth dates are: Lavinia, Charles, Matilda, John, Whitney and Myron. I have 2 e-mail addressess: [email protected] and [email protected].
Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 07:53:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: Barry Whitney <[email protected]>
Subject: Online: The New Search Engine Server (fwd)
To: [email protected]
Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 06:03:01 EDT From: M55442 <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] Subject: [GAJEFFER-L] Fwd: Online: The New Search Engine Server [ This is a public announcement -- it may be forwarded to any
appropriate audience. -B ]
=========================================================
=
The new search engine server is now online and can operate at the speed of a full T1 connection.
Courtesy of hacks by Dale Schneider, you can search the USGenWeb Archives, now with *headlines* and *updated* to within the last 24 hours, at:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ussearch.htm
Courtesy of hacks by Karen Isaacson, you can search the archives of any mailing list (except those withdrawn by the listowner), now with nicer *formats* and *updated* to within the last 24 hours, at:
http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl
I'd also like to explicitly thank the folks who provided the resources that have made this new facility possible:
o RootsWeb's Patrons, Donors, Sponsors, and Members.
o Palladium Interactive, developers of the Ultimate
Family Tree software for genealogists.
Folks interested in helping RootsWeb provide new facilities can become Members by using the Web form at:
http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html
By the way, the next server we'll be bringing online will be a box dedicated to supporting Marc Nozell's HTMLized versions of the mailing list archives. We should have that box online within 48 hours, though it's reasonable to expect Marc to need a little time after that to get his software installed. (:
Projects after that include a dedicated IRC server, upgrading the mail hub, upgrading the main Web server, building a NT-based FrontPage server, bringing a "dirtylists" list server online, and bringing a third ordinary list server online.
[ The "dirtylists" server is for the big, rarely used announcement
lists. We've developed a number of those things with 5,000 to 300,000 subscribers, and every time a post drops we kick the daylights out of the list server with hundreds or even thousands of bounces. We need a specially tuned box to handle these turkeys. ]
No rest for the wicked, I suppose ... Cheers, B.
--
Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L
RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative http://www.rootsweb.com/
P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 [email protected]
From: Keepingon2 <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 11:32:54 EDT
Subject: Royal connection
To: [email protected]
I'm new to this list so I apologize if you've just finished a three week
session on this topic.
I read somewhere that there is some difference of opinion on whether or not
we can claim the royal connection or not because all of it is not proven. If this has already been settled (or at least hashed out thoroughly) please tell me where I can get transcripts of same.
Thank you
Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 11:51:51 -0500 From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Royal connection To: [email protected]
On Wed, 13 May 1998, Keepingon2 wrote:
> I read somewhere that there is some difference of opinion on whether or not > we can claim the royal connection or not because all of it is not proven. If > this has already been settled (or at least hashed out thoroughly) please tell > me where I can get transcripts of same.
The articles which discussed this issue are:
Donald Lines Jacobus, M.A., of New Haven, Conn., "Pre-American Ancestries: John Whitney of Watertown, Mass.," The American Genealogist, vol. 10 (1933-1934), pp. 84-88.
Reed, Paul C., "Whitney Origins Revisited: John1 Whitney of Watertown, Massachusetts, and Henry1 Whitney of Long Island and Norwalk, Connecticut," The American Genealogist, vol. 69, No. 1 (Jan 1994), pp. 9-14.
These articles can be obtained from any library which has these issues of The American Genealogist, or electronic copies can be obtained by following the instructions listed at:
http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/copyright.html
Tim Doyle - [email protected]
WWW homepage: http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ ftp directory: ftp.doit.com pub/tdoyle
From: "Doneva Shepard" <[email protected]> Subject: BLM site Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 21:46:17 -0700 To: [email protected]
When I first went to the site, I was amazed. I found 2 ancestors in places I didn't expect them to be, downloaded a copy of the land transfer and printed it off. It was really neat. Now, I "save" the copy to disc . . . or try to open it there . . . and can't. I have every kind of program imaginable to open any kind of file . . . ??? FRUSTRATING. I have to say it but this seems to be another Government SNAFU (situation normal, all fouled up.) It worked so good the first time, why not now? Doneva
Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 22:23:35 -0700
From: Perrault <[email protected]>
Subject: GLORecords
To: [email protected]
For all those who tried the glorecords site and couldn't get the url to work, I did some experimenting with what I had bookmarked and used successfully for a couple of days, and this is what I found works TODAY. I just backed off a couple of words.....good luck since there aren't a lot left to back off if they change it again. Sue Perrault
[NOTE: I deleted the HTML source code for the page located at http://www.glorecords.blm.gov - Tim Doyle]
From: "Paul Andrews" <[email protected]> Subject: Samuel Hoyt Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 10:09:27 -0400 To: [email protected]
Searching for a Samuel Hoyt, b. friday September 16th, 1802. He married twice. First to: "Applica" Whittier. Second: Abigail Mitchell, married before so correct name inknown, and she bore no children with Sam'l. Have taken this info from a very old bible of Jonathan Sawyer, bible purchased about 1790. "Applica" would be my great great grandmother and they were in New Hampshire-Grafton area I believe. Any help would be appreciated, regards, Paul R. Andrews <[email protected]>
From: Julogy <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 10:16:25 EDT Subject: Charles MARKLE To: [email protected]
I'm looking for a marriage certificate for Charles MARKLE and Tabitha WHITNEY d. 1818. She was born in MA, she died in VA.
Julia
Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 10:43:33 -0700 From: Perrault <[email protected]>
Subject: GLOrecords To: [email protected]
Hi All, Last night when I tried to send the URL for the BLM site, typing in the URL actually sent the site instead.....don't know how that happened, but here it is again without sending it as an attachment:
http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/
It still works this morning...they had made some changes, you no longer have to sign up in order to use it....I think Doneva was right when she said it was a big SNAFU, but try it with this URL and it should work. Sue
From: ALLAGREEN <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 00:53:52 EDT Subject: Harrison, ME, birthdates in question To: [email protected]
Dear WRG:
I have been looking at the Harrison, ME, "Vital Records" - derived from the 1877 book "Early Settlers of Harrison, Maine", by Rev. G. T. Ridlon, as I got them from Robert's website. Under the children of Freeman Whitney, son of Enoch, Freeman's first son, Stephen T. Whitney had two sons born six days apart. The entries are marked with a "sic" to show that either the original author or whoever transcribed these (or Mr. Ward) noted the seeming impossibility.
I would wonder if there are now some more recent sources for Vital Records for Harrison, ME. I do note that from child #4 through #9, the births all come two years apart, except for #'s 5 & 6, the two in question. Logic would suggest that someone made a typo or misread the second 5 of 1855 as a three. If anyone has access to a source for Harrison, ME, mid-19th century records, could you check this please and perhaps we can arrive at a correction/resolution for this medical impossibility. At least, I think it is impossible for the second of a pair of twins to remain with the mother for six days after the birth of the first, before seeing the light of day himself.
Curiouser and curiouser!!
Allan E. Green
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 07:45:17 -0400 From: [email protected] (Janice Whitaker) Subject: Re: Harrison, ME, birthdates in question To: [email protected]
Dear Alan,
I transcribed the VR's in Harrison, ME. and have a printed copy of the
pages of the book. I always xerox the pages from the source to transcribe directly from that and to keep them for future reference. Please don't hesitate to ask me to check the originals. As far as I know, I have provided all the Maine VR's on Robert's page excepting for the one, No. Yarmouth, that Peg did(I own the more recent edition). The majority of these records I had to obtain in person at the Maine Historical Society in Portland. I have Ridlon's "Saco Valley Settlements" and have found him to corroborate other sources,in my family, so I trust that he published just what he found. These Harrison records appear to come from Family Bibles, so interpreting handwriting could be the reason for this error.
The reference you question is accurate as printed in the book, and the
[]bracketed comment is mine, as I observed the improbability of the accuracy of both entries. Many of those towns around Sebago Lakes region had no Clergy, causing many events to be recorded elsewhere. And then there were fires that destroyed many records(see the Maine Genweb pages for a list of those towns). I believe that I obtained these about a year ago, and would have copied material from any other source at MHS,if they existed then. Keep on "editing" for errors! It is obviously needed. :-) Jan
>Dear WRG: > >I have been looking at the Harrison, ME, "Vital Records" - derived from the >1877 book "Early Settlers of Harrison, Maine", by Rev. G. T. Ridlon, as I got >them from Robert's website. Under the children of Freeman Whitney, son of >Enoch, Freeman's first son, Stephen T. Whitney had two sons born six days >apart. The entries are marked with a "sic" to show that either the original >author or whoever transcribed these (or Mr. Ward) noted the seeming >impossibility. > >I would wonder if there are now some more recent sources for Vital Records for >Harrison, ME. I do note that from child #4 through #9, the births all come >two years apart, except for #'s 5 & 6, the two in question. Logic would >suggest that someone made a typo or misread the second 5 of 1855 as a three. >If anyone has access to a source for Harrison, ME, mid-19th century records, >could you check this please and perhaps we can arrive at a >correction/resolution for this medical impossibility. At least, I think it is >impossible for the second of a pair of twins to remain with the mother for six >days after the birth of the first, before seeing the light of day himself. > >Curiouser and curiouser!! > >Allan E. Green
From: RayWhit79 <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 15:19:36 EDT
Subject: "Witching" unmarked graves
To: [email protected]
Dear WRG,
Some of you probably already know about this subject, but thought I would
repeat it for anyone who does not in case they needed to use it sometime.
Yesterday, while visiting the Library in Emporia, Kansas, when seeking info
on the burial place of my paternal grandmother, who is incidently buried in an unmarked grave in a cemetery near Emporia, one of the librarians told me about how you can find if someone is actually buried in unmarked area.
I had been told before that you could "witch" a site to locate if someone was
actually buried therein, just like the old timers "witch" for water in order to know where to dig a water well. I had always heard that this later operation required a forked peach stick, you held on to the forks, and when you got over water, the single end of the stick pulled down. Consequently, I hadn't tried that. But this lady in Emporia said you can take two wire coathangers, straighten them out, leaving at the end of each a portion of the wire which you bend to a 90 degree angle. Then you go over the gravesite, holding the two 90 degree ends loosely, and when you go over a grave, they will turn in your hand and the two straight pieces will cross over making an X. She said she had two in her car that she would give me. I took them, and drove back to Waverly, Kansas, where in their cemetery is an apparent empty cemetery lot, which is shown as being owned by J. Whitney, whom I think to be my great grandfather. First I tried it over a marked grave that I knew someone was buried in, and it did exactly as she said. Then I tried it over the vacant lot, and when I came to a certain place thereon, it made the X. As the wind was blowing quite hard, I thought that might be doing it, so I walked it from every direction, and when I reached that spot the wires X'd as claimed. AFterwards, in searching this particular spot closely, it appeared that there was a slight settlement of the soil at that point, which would possibly indicate the soil had been dug up and then replaced.
While, of course, there is no way to identify the grave occupant, it does
tell you that there is a grave. In my case, will presume it is my GReat Grandfather Daniel James Whitney, who died around 1870 to 1872. It makes sense, because his widow, her second husband, sister, and other members of the family are buried in the adjacent cemetery lot, and his widow's mother is buried in a marked grave next beyond her family gravesite.
Sounds like voodoo, but it does do what they say. I know that people in the
country have relied on water witching for years and it has worked out in most cases. Some local interest, anyway! Ray Whitney, Topeka, Kansas.
Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 01:10:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "John E. Fischer" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: "Witching" unmarked graves To: [email protected]
Ray Whitney wrote:
SNIP > > I had been told before that you could "witch" a site to locate if >someone is actually buried therein, just like the old timers "witch" for >water in order to know where to dig a water well. I had always heard that >this later operation required a forked peach stick, you held on to the >forks, and when you got over water, the single end of the stick pulled down. > SNIP
There is a standing offer of a 1 Million dollar award by the James Randi Educational Foundation in Florida if anyone can prove that witching finds water (pipe, wire, metal ores, graves or...) I'll get and post the address if anyone is interested in trying......
Happy Hunting
John E Fischer [email protected] Cincinnati OH USA
From: SWlady <[email protected]> Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 10:29:28 EDT Subject: Colonial Families....Ancestry.com To: [email protected]
Hi All -
Just in case you hadn't checked recently, Ancestry.com has a new database for searching (one Whitney example is below)....
Chris Shriver Stallwood
Colonial Families in the United States, Vol. 1. (http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/search/3279.htm)
Description: This impressive database is the first in a series of volumes covering the families of the early English colonies in America. Beginning with the first landing at Jamestown this series covers families up through the start of the American Revolutionary War and beyond into the Nineteenth Century. Many vital records are included, as well as locations of births, marrages, and deaths. In addition to containing family genealogies this database also contains armorial bearings, or coats of arms, for some of the more prominent families from England and Scotland. Researchers will find this database filled with important information compiled by George Mackenzie, who was a member of the American Historical Association and National Genealogical Society.Bibliography: George Norbury Mackenzie, ed. Colonial Families of the United States of America, Vol. 1. New York: 1907.
Colonial families of the United States of America: Volume 1 ISSUE BY 1ST m.
JOHN AUGUSTINE CHILTON, M.D., of Warrenton, Fauquier County, Va., b. 20th September, 1812; d. 27th August, 1886; m. (firstly), 1849, Mary Chapman WILSON, dau. of Joseph WILSON of Baltimore; m. (secondly), 16th June, 1858, Catlterine MASSIE, b. 25th December, 1828; d. 7th July, 1885; dau. of John Whitney and Mary Stuart (FOOTE) MASSIE of Virginia.
From: WhitneyMR <[email protected]> Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 11:33:46 EDT Subject: From your listowner To: [email protected]
Hi Guys,
Just a quick note to let you know I'll be gone for a week. Things have been running very smoothly and the only thing I've been doing is help with some unsubs.
So if you try and unsub in the next week and can't have patience and I'll
help when I get back on Memorial Day.
Michael Whitney
Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 17:25:39 -0400 From: [email protected] (Janice Whitaker) Subject: Re: Whitney VA/KN To: [email protected]
Dear Whitney Researcher,L.D.McWilliams III:
Sorry to be so long in replying to this query. Now your address is
incorrect and this message was returned, "undeliverable". I hope this reaches you. I have an Elijah Whitney in my line who has been a mystery to me. Perhaps we can connect here. Elijah son of Abner and Sarah(Hilton) Whitney was born ca 1767. Location unknown. The family lived(in order) in Shirley, MA; Deerfield, MA 1767("Ely" was with them there); Newton, MA, during Abner's service in the Rev. War;Groton, MA; Otisfield, ME, he was there with father and brothers Uriel and Samuel from 1782-1784;Here he disappears from family records. His parents were later in Boxboro, MA(without him) and finally Falmouth,ME(now Portland). THe oldest son in this family, Abner 2nd, served in the war, married and settled in Pasquotank Co. NC. So it is possible that the two brothers went south together, then split. Sure do wish I could find where my Elijah went! :-) Jan
>Can anyone connect to this family?
>
>L. D. McWilliams
>
>FIRST GENERATION
>
>1. Elijah WHITNEY owned land in Christian County, Kentucky. Christian
>County became Trigg County, Kentucky in 182
>He was in 1830 census for Trigg Co, KN
>
>lived in Washington Co., VA before KN
>
>He was married to Mrs.. Elijah WHITNEY and Mrs. had the following
>children:
>
> +2 i. Mary (Polly) WHITNEY.
>
>SECOND GENERATION
>
>2. Mary (Polly) WHITNEY was born on 9 Aug 1798 in Virginia. She died
>on 22 Feb 1867 in Panola County, Texas?.
>
>She was married to Frances Bird BOUNDS (son of Joseph BOUNDS and Mary
>BIRD) on 7 Aug 1816 in Christian County, Kentucky. Frances Bird BOUNDS
>was born on 20 Feb 1797 in North Carolina. He died on 25 Jan 1865 in
>Panola County, Texas?. He moved to Panola County, Texas about
>1844/46. Mary (Polly) WHITNEY and Frances Bird BOUNDS had the following
>children:
>
> +3 i. Altasarah (Sarah) (Althy) BOUNDS.
> +4 ii. Julia BOUNDS.
> +5 iii. Laura Ann BOUNDS.
> +6 iv. Mary BOUNDS.
> +7 v. Frances Bird Jr. BOUNDS.
> +8 vi. Thomas R. BOUNDS.
> +9 vii. Stacy BOUNDS.
> +10 viii. Pascal Lafayette BOUNDS.
> 11 ix. John Jefferson BOUNDS was born on 17 Oct 1835 in Tennessee.
> +12 x. Harriet Audrey BOUNDS.
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 11:34:52 -0500
From: Cathy Herpich <[email protected]>
Subject: LEWIS-WHITNEY
To: [email protected]
Hello,
I am looking for information on the ancestors of Clarissa Arminia WHITNEY born 22 Sep 1821 in Erie Co., PA, died 23 Sep 1917 in Dallas Co., IA. Married 1840 (location unknown) Nathaniel G. LEWIS born 22 May 1818 in Otsego Co., NY, died 26 Apr 1886 in Dallas Co., IA.
Any assistance is greatly appreciated! Cathy Herpich [email protected]
From: Hogle1 <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 18:16:23 EDT Subject: Are we up and running? To: [email protected]
WRG,
I have not seen any mail from WRG for several days and I just wanted to check and see if it is my mail, the list down, or if we are just all quiet.
I have a few stumbling blocks that I need some help with, and some information to share, but I figured before I did all of that I would make sure we are in working order.
Thanks, Jo Hogle [email protected]
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 21:27:38 -0700 From: "Patricia A. Whitney-Jones" <[email protected]>
Subject: Whitney info on Ancestry database To: [email protected]
Dear WRG:
Check out the following Ancestry database:
http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/search/3280.htm
"Name Changes in Massachusetts, 1780-1892" > >NOTE: There were 52 WHITNEY matches
>Description: This collection of court records originally published in 1893 >contains changes of names approved by the courts of Massachusetts between >1780 and 1892. >Containing nearly 40,000 records, each entry includes the original name and >the new name. In addition, most entries contain information on family >relatives and current residence. For the researcher whose ancestor once lived >in Massachusetts and possibly changed their name, this is a valuable >database. > > Bibliography: Massachusetts State Government. List of Persons Whose Names Have Been Changed in Massachusetts, 1780-1892. Boston: 1893.
Patricia Whitney-Jones {Lackie/Hoopes}
San Diego, California
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/h/i/Patricia-A-WhitneyJones/index.html
[my niece) http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/o/w/Karen--Howell/
LACKIE*LAVIGNE*SANDIFORD*WHITNEY*REID*PERRY*TYLER*WARNER* FROST***BULLEN*STAATS*MAXWELL*CROCKETT*MCCRONE* HOFFECKER*NAUDAIN*PEACH*ROBERTS***HOOPES*JONES
From: DNading <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 21:10:26 EDT Subject: Downing Ancestor To: [email protected]
My Great-grandfather was Alvin Reader Downing (1846-1919). He was Married to Margaret Mary Powell (1851-1945) Any connections? A cousin carried our line back to Wm. b.1722. Hope to hear from you, [email protected]
From: "Beverly Helton" <[email protected]> Subject: WHITNEY, James W. m. Harper, Betsey Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 14:53:39 -0700 To: [email protected]
I have just discovered I have another connection to the WHITNEY line, but I cannot find where he fits in. Please help!
James W. WHITNEY, b. unknown, d. 1881 in Erie Co, OH
m. 1828 in Errie Co, OH
Betsey HARPER, B. 16/17 Mar 1806, Herkimer Co, NY
Betsey HARPER is daughter of Joseph HARPER and Esther (Unknown)
I am seeking James W. WHITNEY's parents and where he fits into the Whitney lines.
Beverly Helton in AZ
From: "Terri Mullins" <[email protected]>
Subject: Judith Whitney
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 20:25:25 -0500
To: [email protected]
Does anyone have information on the parents of Judith Whitney who was born in 1733 and married Nathan Shumway possibly in Oxford Mass.?
Terri Mullins [email protected]
From: ALLAGREEN <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 00:33:07 EDT Subject: Re: Judith Whitney To: [email protected]
Dear Terry:
I guess you're in luck. Judith Whitney, b. 25 Jul 1727, Hopkinton, Middlesex, MA, m. Nathan Shumway 7 Feb 1754 in Oxford, Worcester, MA. I would guess that you could tell us more about Nathan than we currently know. As of right now, we do not have any descent from this marriage in our database.
Judith was the daughter of Isaac-3 and Elizabeth Bridges Whitney, and you can find the descent down to Judith (John-1, Benjamin-2, Isaac-3, Judith-4) on the following website.
http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/index.html
and then follow the links to the 6-Generation descendancy from the immigrants John-1 and Elinor Whitney down to your Judith-4. Isaac-3 will be the last of the third generation children of Benjamin-2, so will be the last family extension in the whole database.
There is also a link on this webpage to another version of the database that appears on Randy Winch's website, where you can also see the ancestry in a simpler form.
After you take a look at this material, if you have any more questions, please write to me or Mr. Ward, and we'll try to help you any way we can. We also hope that you will assist us by extending the descent from Judith and Nathan downward.
Sincerely,
Allan E. Green
From: ALLAGREEN <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 02:03:35 EDT Subject: Re: WHITNEY, James W. m. Harper, Betsey To: [email protected]
Dear Beverly:
I don't know if anyone else has responded to you as yet, because my mail has been a bit irregular due to the college's server being down for repair this week. I have found your James W(atkins) Whitney, b. ca 1800/1805, don't know where. He descends as follows:
James Watkins-6 Whitney, son of
Fisher-5 Whitney and Patty Watkins
Jason-4 Whitney and Lois Fisher
Mark-3 Whitney and Tabitha Mellen
Benjamin-2 Whitney and Mary Poor
John-1 Whitney (immigrant ancestor in 1635) and Elinor ______
You can follow this line down to Fisher by going to the website of one of our Whitney Research Group members and opening his 6-generation descent from John & Elinor.
http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/index.html
You can also find the sources for much of the data in his descent in the collected resources of the WRG published there, such as the Whitney Extracts from the Vital Records of many, many MA towns, etc. You will be amazed at the amount of material that is available there.
If, after you have looked at this material and followed the various linkages, you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to write to me, or pose them to the Whitney-L maillist.
Sincerely,
Allan E. Green
From: ALLAGREEN <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:57:26 EDT Subject: Re: Judith Whitney To: [email protected]
In a message dated 98-05-21 08:43:14 EDT, you write:
<< How come it does list Judiths husband and children there I wonder?...thanks
so much..Terri >>
Dear Terri:
The reason it is there is that some of us are constantly trying to expand our knowledge of the descent of the various Whitney immigrants, and are collecting the material together for the purpose of making it available to all. Mr. Ward is outstanding in this effort, and several others are constantly contributing to the process as well. Others are contributing when they link up to someone in the known database that we have put together over the years. They then contribute their work that extends the descent down their line to the present.
You probably saw my posting from last night in answer to another inquiry about a James W. Whitney and Betsey Harper. In that case, James W. had been submitted by one of our other members sometime last year, and I could easily trace down who had submitted the material by following it down to the present and finding the person with whom we had worked about a year ago. That is why I mentioned that we would be very interested in your contributing to us whatever you know about the further descent in the line that runs through your Judith Whitney. So you see, in your case Judith is there because of someone who was working from the top down (i.e., descent from the immigrant ancestor, John-1 Whitney of Watertown), while James W. was there because of another WRG member who was working from the bottom up (i.e., from the present back to the past).
I hope this clears up the reason for the difference between the answers. Please do not hesitate to ask if further questions occur, or you need clarification.
Allan E. Green
From: BCofer 612 <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 00:54:56 EDT Subject: Re: WHITNEY-D Digest V98 #102 To: [email protected]
Carol, I have a Lydia Whitney, b 3 July 1657@Watertown, Middlesex Co., MA. She d 27 May 1724 @Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA. She marr Moses Adams 15 April 1684, (poss 1680) either Watertown or Sherborn, MA. Lydia was the dau of Jonathan and Lydia (Jones) Whitney. Jonathan b 1634 @ Islesworth-on- Thames, Eng. He d 1 Jan 1701/2 @ Sherborn, MA. Lydia Jones was b ca 1632, d 3 Feb 1701/2 @ Sherborn, MA.. If you should happen to come across any info about any of these good people, I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know!! Good luck on finding lots about your ancestors! Barbara Cofer [email protected]
From: ALLAGREEN <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 18:18:05 EDT
Subject: Tangled Maine lineage
To: [email protected]
Dear WRG:
In the course of trying to track through several lines of Whitneys who lived in Biddeford and Gorham, ME, I have come upon an "impossibility" in the line that appears in Whitny12 in the children of Nathaniel and Hannah (Day) Whitney. If you will look at the W12 database, you will see that a Josiah Whitney, b. 1752, is listed as the 10th and last child of this marriage. This Josiah is shown as having had two wives, the first one being Hannah Barstow, b. (ca?) 1732 - 20 years earlier. They are shown as having had one child, another Josiah Whitney, b. 1752!! - the same year as shown for his father. There is a marriage date given for the parents, Nathaniel and Hannah of 3 Jan 1733/4, with just "Maine" as the place - and no source cited. It is possible that they might have had a child, Josiah, born in 1732, especially since the first child of the marriage shown is another Nathaniel, b. 22 Mar 1734/5, or 14 months after the cited marriage date. But, that is not what it says.
To further complicate the issue, the (tenth child) Josiah shown as having been born in 1752, is shown as having had two wives, the first (on the list) named Hannah Barstow, with no marriage or death date, and the second named Elizabeth Harding, with a marriage date of 16 Sep 1775. His son, Josiah (the only child listed, also supposedly born in 1752 to Hannah Barstow), ALSO is shown as married to Elizabeth Harding, with the same 1775 marriage date.
What I suspect is that somehow an extra Josiah got inserted into the line, and that the single/solo Josiah-5 was indeed born to Nathaniel and Hannah abt 1752, and married Hannah Barstow ca 1772/3 and that she died soon thereafter. Josiah then remarried Elizabeth Harding 16 Sep 1775 and had the one child, Silas-6 Whitney. This seems to be what Robert Ward has determined, also, though he has far more detail in his 6-Gen presentation (see ...john/john67.html)
I hope that all this is familiar to someone - hopefully the person who originally submitted this line to Jon Aston some time ago. Would that person please get in touch with me so that we can work together to straighten out this confusion and send a correction to Jon that he will accept to edit the next version of the db.
Allan E. Green
From: ALLAGREEN <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 18:18:07 EDT Subject: Re: WHITNEY-D Digest V98 #102 To: [email protected]
Dear Barb and Carol (Where's Ted and Alice?):
Can I shoehorn in a point about Barb's posting from yesterday. About Jonathan's birthplace - only the first three (possibly four) of John and Elinor's children were born in Isleworth. The fourth child, Nathaniel does not appear there (in that Parish Register), or anywhere else that I have found yet. By the time children five and six came along, the family had moved from Isleworth to London. By 1624, John-1 had been freed from his apprentice status for ten years, and may well have been doing quite well with his "trade". It was in that year that he took on his younger brother, Robert Whitney as an apprentice.
Children five and six, Thomas and the second Mary were christened in St. Mary Aldermary, an entirely different parish. Isleworth is six to seven miles (as the crow flies) southwest of Westminster Abbey and St. Margaret Westminster - that's upstream on the Thames. St. Mary Aldermary is right smack in the middle of the City of London, in the general vicinity of Broad Street and Liverpool Street Stations.
So, essentially we know the parish for 1-3, not for 4, yes for 5-6, and not for 7, who is Jonathan. I suspect, but cannot prove that they were still living in Bow Lane (which I have not yet hunted for in London. There is always so much else to be done, that wandering around, looking for tiny back streets and alleys doesn't seem a very productive way to spend my time.). Perhaps I can take the time and look into this further the next time I go back to England.
I'd be interested in further data about the Moses Adams/Lydia Whitney descent, when either of you arrive at a point that you are willing to share.
Happy Hunting:-)
Allan
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 18:56:43 -0600 From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]> Subject: WHITNEY: Bow Lane To: [email protected]
At 06:18 PM 5/22/98 EDT, Allan Green <[email protected]> wrote:
>... I suspect, but cannot prove that they were still >living in Bow Lane (which I have not yet hunted for in London...
Bow Lane can clearly be seen on the London map I have made available at
It is 4 or 5 streets east of St. Paul's Cathedral and runs in the north/south direction just south of 'Cheapside'. You can also locate it on this map by searching for the building numbered 42, which is Bow Church.
Tim Doyle http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ [email protected] ftp://ftp.doit.com/pub/tdoyle/
From: ALLAGREEN <[email protected]> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 05:15:17 EDT Subject: Re: John and Elinor, et. al. To: [email protected]
Robb:
Oh, no, don't consign those illustrious ancestral Whitneys to the dust heap just yet - keep the faith! We'll find another connection from Thomas into the Whitney line - it's just a matter of when we find it and what "generation" we have to go back to to find the link back to the Hereford main line. I will go out on a limb and predict that we'll find it within five years, with the growth of the WRG, the continuous improvement of our members research skills, and the growing availability of material in print and on-line.
I don't have the two TAG articles in electronic form, but Robert Ward does. He has a page on his website in which he explains that he feels that they are still under copyright, and thus he cannot "publish" them on an open, public website. However, he will send them electronically to anyone who writes and asks for them, for research purposes under the "fair use" clause in the copyright law. So, go to his webpage and click on the spot on that page that addresses an e-mail to him, requesting copies of the two articles. OR, you could do what I did. Go to your public library and ask them to get a copy of the two articles xeroxed and mailed in via interlibrary loan. The references are:
1933 issues, Vol. not known, but pages 84 to 88, author: Donald Lines Jacobus, title of the article: "John Whitney of Watertown, Mass."
1994, January issue: pp. 9 - 14; author: Paul C. Reed; title of the article: "Whitney Origins Revisited"
With that much, any decent public library can find a source for these articles and get you a hard copy mailed in for a modest cost.
As to the Forbush descendants, all we have is the list of 13 children of Anna Whitney and David Forbush, with a wife's name only for one of them (David Jr.). Nothing else. If you have more on these further descendants, I would like to see them included in the next version of the J&E Whitney database. If you have this, please send it in a GEDCOM to Jon Aston ([email protected]), our keeper of that db. In turn, I'll find the time this weekend (in between looking after my granddaughter who is visiting) to put together a GEDCOM that runs back about five generations from John-1. I will include that much, even though the connection it will show between Thomas Whitney and his no-longer- credible father, Robert is no longer useful, I need to go back that far so that it will include all I've ever been able to find about the Reynolds family as well. Much of that material is NOT proven yet, coming from electronic sources that in turn have not provided source citations. The names may be fairly reliable, but the dates and places leave me very suspicious about their validity.
I hope this will help you get what you need, and if there is anything else I can do to help, let me know.
Allan
From: Hogle1 <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 17:19:00 EDT Subject: Minnesota Whitney odds and ends To: [email protected]
Gleaned from the Minnesota Genealogical Journal November 1984 Published by: Park Genealogical Book Company
I copied them exactly as written and will make a note or clarification as needed following the record.
Dakota County Marriage Records (1858)
Vol 1 rec# 32 WHITNEY, Benjamin mdp:9Jul1858, Hastings by Chas.LeDuc GREEN, Ann of Prescoh, Wis. w: John Roddy, Mrs S. Roddy
(note - I beleive this would be Prescott, Wisconsin - right across the river from Hastings.)
Vol 1 rec# 40 WHITNEY, Cephas N. of Anoka md:1Jan1859 by Cyrus Brooks PATCH, Cyrene E. of Hastings w: Isaac Perrieyr, A. Perrigo
(note - yes it does say 1859, as do the records after)
Hennepin County Marriage Records (1858)
Vol 1 rec #148A WHITNEY, Mr John of SA mdp:26Jul1856 house of S.Bigelow, HC NUVE (?), Miss Penelope of SA by: C.G. Ames (?) M.O.G.
w: H.J. Dunton and Mrs G.M. Bigelow
(note - SA would be Saint Anthony. The entry following also has 1856, while all before & after are '58)
Vol 1 rec 148C ALLEN, Jesse of state of Penn. md:11May1858 by Norman Mcleod, MOG WHITNEY, Sarah of Mpls. w: Mrs Coolburgh & Mrs. D.R. Bun___(cutoff)
(note - Mpls is Minneapolis)
Jo Hogle [email protected]
From: Hogle1 <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 17:28:53 EDT Subject: J.C. Whitney in Minnesota To: [email protected]
History of Hennepin County and the City of Minneapolis, Including the Explorers and Pioneers of Minnesota, by Rev Edward D. Neill, and Outlines of the History of Minnesota, by J Fletcher Williams Minneapolis: North Star Publishing Co. 1881
Biographical page 657-658
J.C. Whitney was born in April 1818, at Springfield, Vermont. In 1829, moved with his parents to Canada, and remained until twenty years of age. He attended college at Oberlin, Ohio, and in 1849, graduated from Union Seminary, New York. The same year removed to Stillwater, Minnesota, where he was pastor of the First Presbyterian church until 1853; at that time he came to this city and held the position of pastor of the First Presbyterian church here four years. In 1857 removed to Forest City, and returned here in 1860. In 1862, enlisted and served three years, was appointed quartermaster with the rank of captain. Returned in 1865 and engaged in real estate business. Mr Whitney married in 1849, Eliza Bayard. They have 5 children.
Hope this helps someone
Jo Hogle
From: Hogle1 <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 17:40:27 EDT Subject: Oliver B. Whitney - Minnesota To: [email protected]
History of Hennepin County and the City of Minneapolis, Including the Explorers and Pioneers of Minnesota, by Rev Edward D. Neill, and Outlines of the History of Minnesota, by J Fletcher Williams Minneapolis: North Star Publishing Co. 1881
Biographical page 658
Oliver B. Whitney was born at Stillwater, July 23d 1853, and the following September, came with his parents to this city. He attended the public schools here, and when twenty years of age commenced lumbering. Worked for George A. Camp, L. Butler, Clough Brothers, and since April, 1878, has been with Cole and Hammond as book-keeper. In 1875, married Pauline Hyland; she has borne him two children: Gertrude and Henry.
The dates and such seem to indicate that he would have been the son of J.C.
Whitney. Having been born in Stillwater and moved to Minneapolis during the
period of time that coincides with JC's biography. Although on the same
page, they do not follow one after the other. I think that was an error in
editing as all other entries are in alphabetical order, and the one between is
out of sequence.
Hope this is helpful to someone
Jo Hogle
From: "Roger H. Newman" <[email protected]> Subject: Nathan Whitney/Patience Burnham Date: Mon, 25 May 98 21:07:14 PDT To: [email protected]
Looking for marriage date of Nathan Whitney and Patience Burnham/Bernard.
They had children at Columbia, Maine 1772-1793 so were married sometime before then.
Also name of her parents.
Roger
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 08:00:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "J. Michael Poston" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Tangled Maine lineage To: [email protected]
Allan and WRG,
I suspect that some of the information about the children of Nathaniel Whitney and Hannah Day came from me. My source is Hugh D. McLellan, compiled and edited by his daughter Katharine B. Lewis, "History of Gorham, ME.," Smith & Sale, Printers, Portland, 1903, pp. 827-837. Specifically, on page 828:
"Nathaniel Whitney, son of Nathaniel [Nathaniel-3, m. Sarah Ford of Kittery, ME, Benjamin-2, John-1], came to Gorham from Falmouth. At the time of his marriage he lived in Biddeford, and there most of his children's births were recorded. His homestead farm in Gorham, which he purchased in 1769 of Benjamin Winslow, consisted of the two thirty acre lots, 51 and 52, and the south half of the hundred acre lot, 76. His house stood on 51. The hill on which he and some of his brothers made their settlement is still known as Whitney's hill. He married Hannah Day of Wells. Children:
Nathaniel, b. Mar 22, 1735, m. Susanna Whitney of Brunswick, Sept
15, 1757.
Hannah, b. Nov. 16, 1736, m. Joseph Hamblen, Oct., 1755
Moses, b. Mary. 17, 1739, m. Susannah Crockett, Dec. 27, 1760;
2d, Mary Page; 3d, Mrs. Kimball.
Aaron, b. June 7, 1741, m. Jenny McLellan, Sept. 19, 1765
Miriam, b. Jan. 15, 1743
Tabitha, b. Mar. 16, 1745/6, m. John Watson, Dec. 5, 1765; (She
was b. in Kittery.)
Patience, b. May 11, 1748, m. Edward Thomes, Oct. 9, 1766; 2d,
Colman Watson.
Hepsibah, b. Aug. 29, 1750, m. Nathan Freeman, Oct. 15, 1766.
Josiah, b. 1752, m. Hannah Barstow; 2d, Elizabeth Harding, Sept.
16, 1775; Joined the Shakers; d. at Alfred, Feb. 24, 1837,
aged 86.
McLellan does not carry the line of Josiah further and, for that reason,
this material may not address all of Allan's concerns about Josiah's
issue.
Mike Poston
Rockville, Maryland
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 22:11:46 -0400 From: Jimmie Barnes <[email protected]> Subject: Barnes/Barron To: [email protected]
Was surfing genealogy sites and looking for BARNES when I am across the BARNES/BARRON surname on Whitney-L.
This peaked my interest, for my BARNES family in Harrison Co., WV changed from BARNES to BARRON for about 20 years, 1860 - 1880, then reverted back to BARNES. It has caused me much confusion, for I don't know if the name was originally BARRON, then BARNES, or what.
My question is: Why do you show both names as BARNES/BARRON?
Perhaps your answer may clear up my confusion.
Please reply to <[email protected]>
Thanks,
Jimmie Barnes
From: ALLAGREEN <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 00:05:46 EDT Subject: A Whitney Divorce?? To: [email protected]
Dear WRG:
Memory is often fallible, but I think that this is the earliest Whitney family in which I seem to find indications of a divorce. I refer to Dr. John-4 Whitney (Nathaniel-3, Benjamin-2, John-1), given in the VR as "of Boston", and his wife, Margaret (Peggy) Coffin of Nantucket. There is an entry in the Nantucket Vital Record extracts referring to their marriage without a date, but I have guessed at circa 1742, based on her birthdate in 1721. They had at least two children (as shown in RW's 6-Gen), both daughters who have marriages listed in 1766 in the Nantucket VR's, and both to Coffin family "cousins". The marriages in 1766 are consistent with birthdates in the early-mid 1740's.
Then, both Margaret Coffin and Dr. John Whitney remarried, Margaret to Shubael Gardner, another Coffin "cousin", probably from Nantucket, and Dr. John remarried a woman named Hephzibah Adams.
You will remember Mike Poston's note from yesterday, mentioning that the source for the descent from Nathaniel(-4) and Hannah Day Whitney was McLellan's History of Gorham, ME. This Dr. John-4 Whitney is a brother of that Nathaniel-4, and that same source is cited for much of the information given above, albeit on an earlier page (827) in the segment of that work devoted to the Whitney family. I wonder if his appearance in the first of the series of pages devoted to the Whitneys (pp. 827-837) indicates that he also spent some time as a resident of Gorham, ME?? No mention of him appears in the extracted Whitney Vital Records of that town.
Since, from the information we have, there was no further male descent from Dr. John-4, there may be no current members of the WRG who descend from this line. I still am curious about the conditions that would lead to a divorce around the years 1750 - 1760. If anyone knows, I'd appreciate the information.
Happy Hunting to all.
Allan E. Green <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 08:18:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "J. Michael Poston" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: A Whitney Divorce?? To: [email protected]
Allan and WRG:
> You will remember Mike Poston's note from yesterday, mentioning that the > source for the descent from Nathaniel(-4) and Hannah Day Whitney was > McLellan's History of Gorham, ME. This Dr. John-4 Whitney is a brother of > that Nathaniel-4, and that same source is cited for much of the information > given above, albeit on an earlier page (827) in the segment of that work > devoted to the Whitney family. I wonder if his appearance in the first of the > series of pages devoted to the Whitneys (pp. 827-837) indicates that he also > spent some time as a resident of Gorham, ME?? No mention of him appears in > the extracted Whitney Vital Records of that town. > > Since, from the information we have, there was no further male descent from > Dr. John-4, there may be no current members of the WRG who descend from this > line. I still am curious about the conditions that would lead to a divorce > around the years 1750 - 1760. If anyone knows, I'd appreciate the > information.
Well, to answer the question about Dr. John-4's residence in Gorham, I returned to the pages I have from McLellan's history. There I found a brief discussion of the origins of Whitney (I suspect that it comes from Pierce, but I don't know). In order to let you decide for yourself, I'll quote the work, but my interpretation is that Dr. John-4 was never resident in Gorham.
[McLellan, Hugh D., compiled and edited by his daughter Katharine B. Lewis, "History of Gorham, ME.," Smith & Sale, Printers, 1903, p. 827.]
"The family of Whitney trace their descent from Turstin de Wigemore, a
Fleming, who came over to England with William the Conqueror and participated in the battle of Hastings. The family took their name from their residence, called Whitney Court, at Whitney-on-the-Wye. Each succeeding generation of the family married into the best families of England, and held prominent positions at the court of the king. The estate not being entailed and the last Whitney of Whitney Court having only daughters it was sold, but is still called Whitney Court.
"Thomas Whitney and wife Mary belonging to a younger branch of the
family moved to Westminster, where their son John, born in 1589, was apprenticed to a tailor. John Whitney married Elinor _____, and in May, 1635, emirated to America, and lived in Watertown, Mass. He had nine children, from the youngest of whom, Benjamin, the Gorham Whitneys are descended.
"Nathaniel Whitney was born in York, Me., April 14, 1680. He was
the son of Benjamin, and grandson of John Whitney above. He was a weaver. He married Sarah, daughter of John Ford of Kittery. Children:
"Nathan, b. Jan. 10, 1706/7, m. Lydia Young, Nov. 12, 1730; 2d,
Elizabeth Melcher.
"Nathaniel, b. Dec. 12, 1709, m. Hannah Day, Jan. 3, 1733/4.
"Abel, b. July 23, 1712, m. Mary Cane, Nov. 12, 1735.
"Sarah, b. Nov. 8, 1714, m. Jeremiah Simpson, July 13, 1736; 2d
John Larrabee.
"John, b. ____, m. Margaret Coffin; 2d, Hephzibah Adams; was a
physician.
"Lydia, b.____, d Jan. 14, 1720.
"Isaac, b. Mar. 9, 1720/1, m. Sarah Crosby, Sept. 5, 1743.
"Amos, b. Mar. 5, 1723/4, m. Sarah Payne, Sept. 5, 1748.
"Lydia, b. July 22, 1726, d. Mar. 23, 1727/8.
"Joanna, b. Mar. 13, 1729/30.
"Nathaniel Whitney was living in York as late as 1760. His estate was settled in 1768, by his son Amos."
There is no further mention of Dr. John-4, so I conclude that he lived
elsewhere. (Nor is there a hint of his divorce.)
Mike Poston Rockville, Maryland
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Subject: Tribute to a Beloved Friend and Genealogist Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 22:33:47 EDT To: [email protected]
Greetings, All:
In our lives of asearching family trees, we all know there are those who are not family by blood, but are family by choice . ...our dearest friends ...bonded to us in ways that only the other one can understand. This evening around seven one of my dearest friends was able to stop her struggle against a fast-moving lung cancer.
Val Adkins, dear friend, brave woman, gift to the world, and joyful researcher for genealogists, has passed onward. The comment to me by her cousin Pat Vedner was "Bet she's having a ball meeting all of those ancestors she's been searching for so long."
Val will be cremated and services held in her hometown, Meadville, PA. Condolences can be sent to :
Mary-Lib Whitney
19926 Mulligan Lane
Meadville, PA 16335
Please ...take a moment and look at the night sky and remember this fine woman. Val, dear friend ....I know you haven't gone far from us searching." We'll miss ye, Girl. Fly free.
Thank you all for your time. Please let other lists know.
Blessings be and blessed be!
Nan
From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 23:58:38 EDT Subject: MISS MARY WHITNEY - PA - 25 MAY 1998 OBIT To: [email protected]
In case this might relate to some one else on the list, I am posting the obituary of Miss Mary Whitney of Pennsylvania, who died Monday, May 25, 1998. There are more details on her families available.
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Mary R. Whitney, 73, of Six Mile Run, died unexpectedly at 5:11 a.m. Monday May 25th,1998 at UPMC Bedford Memorial Hospital. Born May 20,1925, she was a daughter of the late Walter and Lillie Mae (Detwiler) Whitney. Miss Whitney never married. Surviving are two sisters, Margaret Jenkins, Saxton, and Loretta Foster, Everett. She was preceded in death by two sisters, Marcia Washburn and Amanda Arcq and one brother, Jake Whitney. Miss Whitney was a member of the Six Mile Run Church of God. She was also a member of the Broad Top Area and Hopewell Area Senior Citizens. During her lifetime she was a homemaker. Funeral services will be held at 2:00 p.m. Thursday, May 28 at the D. Ronald Long Funeral Chapel, with the Rev. Stanley Cordell officating. Interment will be at the Duvall Cemetery, Six Mile Run. Friends may call at the funeral home Wednesday, May 27, from 7-9 p.m.
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Thank you.
Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 21:48:46 +0100 From: Shawn Whitney <[email protected]> Organization: AT&T Subject: Library finds To: [email protected]
Hello WRG,
It's nice to be back. I have been unsubscribed for a awhile. I was in the Seattle Public Library this week and ran across a couple of items that I thought I would share with you.
There is a cabinet in the genealogy section that is reserved for so called "personal papers". I was digging around in there and decided to check out the W's. I was surprised to find two file folders marked Whitney.
The first file contained a chart of a genealogical lineage obviously prepared by or for a Mrs Robert Richardson Gum of Frankfort, KY. Have any of you seen this thing? I found it very humerous. There is no other identification on it. But it has 156 generations of genealogy. >From Adam b. BC 4004 down to generation #143 which is Robert Whitney of Whitney, m. Elizabeth, dau of Morgan Guillims. From there it goes down as follows: 144. Thomas Whitney of Westminster, d. 1637 m. Mary Bray....etc.. 145. John Whitney.... 146. John Whitney, jr.... 147. Nathaniel Whitney... 148. Nathaniel Whitney... 149. Samuel Whitney, Sr.... 150. Samuel Whitney... 151. Simci Whitney... 152. Berilla Whitney... 153. Henry Whitney Jacobs... 154. Sarah Eliza Jacobs... 155. Nell Marshall Park... 156. Robert Park Gum, b. May 19, 1917 Frankfort, Ky (152-156 taken from Bible Records belonging to Nell Park Gum, Frankfort, KY.)
If anyone is interested in having other portions of this thing posted, please let me know. Taking it all the way back to Adam would take me awhile to type...but I could do it. If this line from John-1 down, however, is of interest to anyone researching...I'd probably take it a little more seriously.
The item in the other file folder is also a bit of a mystery. It is a tiny printed booklet that is titled simply "The Whitney Family". It is about 5 x 7 inches and has a crest of some sort on the front. I photocopied the entire booklet, about 21 pages. There is no date of printing, no author, nothing. The first 3 pages are "Origin of the Name" and look like they are probably from Pierce or Melville...I haven't check yet to see exactly. It talks about many ancient Whitneys, etc and then skips down to
married Mary Bray and became the father of John Whitney, Puritan emigrant, the first of the family line in the new world. Thomas was not a native of Westminster (now part of London) but had come from one of the oldest families in the west of England namely, the Whitneys of Whitney on the banks of the Wye."...It goes on from there.
Then it has a few paragraphs entitled "From Pierce's Whitney Genealogy"
These paragraphs begin with Samuel Whitney, bap. 17 Jun 1711., m. 8 Apr 1735 Elizabeth Hastings....
After two pages of the Samuel Whitney information it begins a section entitled "Whitney and Allied Families" by David C. Herndon, New York City. It again starts over with the really old stuff beginning with the arms, crest and motto and roman numerals I through XV.
The next section is entitled "The Family in America" and talks about John and Elinor and then begins a lineage that is very difficult for me to follow at first glance. It is not numbered well but seems to go from John-1 down as follows: John-1, John-2, Nathaniel-3, Nathaniel-4, Samuel-5, Jonas-6, Jonas-7, Alonzo-8, Lucia Helen Whitney-9 b. 1839.
>From there the line goes to the children of Lucia Helen Whitney and Samuel M. Miller. The line continues through to the most recent birth which was about 1920.
Again, if anyone wants more of the details of this line, let me know. I would be curious to know if this little booklet is known by any of our resident experts.
Thanks and its nice to be back. Shawn Whitney
Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 19:43:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "L. D. McWilliams" <[email protected]> Subject: Southern Whitneys To: [email protected]
Can anyone identify this WHITNEY family?
L. D. McWilliams
FIRST GENERATION
1. Elijah WHITNEY lived in Washington County, Virginia, then lived in Christian County, Kentucky. Christian County became Trigg County, Kentucky in 1820. Still in Trigg County on 1830 census.
He had the following children:
+2 i. Mary (Polly) WHITNEY.
+3 ii. Martha (Patsy) WHITNEY.
SECOND GENERATION
2. Mary (Polly) WHITNEY was born on 9 Aug 1798 in Virginia. She died on 22 Feb 1867 in Panola County, Texas.
She was married to Frances Bird BOUNDS (son of Joseph BOUNDS and Mary BIRD) on 7 Aug 1816 in Christian County, Kentucky. Frances Bird BOUNDS was born on 20 Feb 1797 in North Carolina. He died on 25 Jan 1865 in Panola County, Texas.
3. Martha (Patsy) WHITNEY.
She was married to Sterling BOUNDS (son of Joseph BOUNDS and Mary BIRD) on 12 Apr 1813 in Christian County, Kentucky. Sterling BOUNDS was born in 1792 in North Carolina. He died after 1850 in Marshall County, Mississippi.
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From: "Doneva Shepard" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Library finds Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 08:04:39 -0700 To: [email protected]
Shawn and group . . . At the Mormon Family History Centers, they have several charts "back to Adam". They were done for the Patriarchs of the church, one of which was a WHITNEY. My grama Keeler (Joseph Keeler m. Elizabeth Whitney) connected through the Patriarch, George Albert SMITH chart. They are interesting and addicting . . . for those who don't believe, it is fun trying to prove it wrong . . . and for those who 'believe' it is fun simply looking at it. Anyone who can connect to the CT Richard Lyman line can connect to that chart. I remember seeing the Whitney chart but I already had more than I could handle with the Keeler/Lyman connection to the Smith chart. Doneva Shepard in OR
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From: Shawn Whitney <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, May 29, 1998 9:52 PM Subject: Library finds
>Hello WRG,
>
>It's nice to be back. I have been unsubscribed for a awhile. I was
>in the Seattle Public Library this week and ran across a couple of
>items that I thought I would share with you.
>
>There is a cabinet in the genealogy section that is reserved for so
>called "personal papers". I was digging around in there and decided
>to check out the W's. I was surprised to find two file folders marked
>Whitney.
>
>The first file contained a chart of a genealogical lineage obviously
>prepared by or for a Mrs Robert Richardson Gum of Frankfort, KY. Have
>any of you seen this thing? I found it very humerous. There is no
>other identification on it. But it has 156 generations of genealogy.
>From Adam b. BC 4004 down to generation #143 which is Robert Whitney
>of Whitney, m. Elizabeth, dau of Morgan Guillims. From there it goes
>down as follows:
>144. Thomas Whitney of Westminster, d. 1637 m. Mary Bray....etc..
>145. John Whitney....
>146. John Whitney, jr....
>147. Nathaniel Whitney...
>148. Nathaniel Whitney...
>149. Samuel Whitney, Sr....
>150. Samuel Whitney...
>151. Simci Whitney...
>152. Berilla Whitney...
>153. Henry Whitney Jacobs...
>154. Sarah Eliza Jacobs...
>155. Nell Marshall Park...
>156. Robert Park Gum, b. May 19, 1917 Frankfort, Ky
>(152-156 taken from Bible Records belonging to Nell Park Gum,
>Frankfort, KY.)
>
>If anyone is interested in having other portions of this thing posted,
>please let me know. Taking it all the way back to Adam would take me
>awhile to type...but I could do it. If this line from John-1 down,
>however, is of interest to anyone researching...I'd probably take it a
>little more seriously.
>
>The item in the other file folder is also a bit of a mystery. It is a
>tiny printed booklet that is titled simply "The Whitney Family". It
>is about 5 x 7 inches and has a crest of some sort on the front. I
>photocopied the entire booklet, about 21 pages. There is no date of
>printing, no author, nothing. The first 3 pages are "Origin of the
>Name" and look like they are probably from Pierce or Melville...I
>haven't check yet to see exactly. It talks about many ancient
>Whitneys, etc and then skips down to
>
>...."Now we come to Thomas Whitney, gentleman of Westminster, who
>married Mary Bray and became the father of John Whitney, Puritan
>emigrant, the first of the family line in the new world. Thomas was
>not a native of Westminster (now part of London) but had come from one
>of the oldest families in the west of England namely, the Whitneys of
>Whitney on the banks of the Wye."...It goes on from there.
>
>Then it has a few paragraphs entitled "From Pierce's Whitney
>Genealogy"
>
>These paragraphs begin with Samuel Whitney, bap. 17 Jun 1711., m. 8
>Apr 1735 Elizabeth Hastings....
>
>After two pages of the Samuel Whitney information it begins a section
>entitled "Whitney and Allied Families" by David C. Herndon, New York
>City. It again starts over with the really old stuff beginning with
>the arms, crest and motto and roman numerals I through XV.
>
>The next section is entitled "The Family in America" and talks about
>John and Elinor and then begins a lineage that is very difficult for
>me to follow at first glance. It is not numbered well but seems to go
>from John-1 down as follows: John-1, John-2, Nathaniel-3,
>Nathaniel-4, Samuel-5, Jonas-6, Jonas-7, Alonzo-8, Lucia Helen
>Whitney-9 b. 1839.
>
>From there the line goes to the children of Lucia Helen Whitney and
>Samuel M. Miller. The line continues through to the most recent birth
>which was about 1920.
>
>Again, if anyone wants more of the details of this line, let me know.
>I would be curious to know if this little booklet is known by any of
>our resident experts.
>
>Thanks and its nice to be back.
>Shawn Whitney
From: [email protected] Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 18:38:28 EDT Subject: Re: WHITNEY-D Digest V98 #120 To: [email protected]
Shawn, that sounds like a fascinating booklet! I hope you'll post more of it for the rest of us! One of my ancestors was a Robertson, and the name stayed in the family until my g grandmother. Since then, it was my father's given name, and my younger son's. In some book that I know I have, the lineage goes back through all the lairds and reivers, etc, all the way back to Moses! Now I know that I definately am descented from Moses, with two separate branches able to go back to him! Hope you had a nice vacation! Barbara
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