Mailing List Discussions, May 1999

From: "sheila peel" <[email protected]> Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 16:23:33 -0400 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Jacob Whitney To: [email protected]

Hello group, I also belong to another group that does genealogical research and one of the participants has a site about the Finger Lakes area of NY State. The individuals name is Wilson Simmons and he is the Town of Potter NY Historian in Yates County. He has a site about the individuals that lived in the area who were Revolutionary War Soldiers. The group is the Finger Lakes group at [email protected]. By chance there is a Whitney within the soldiers that are sited on his website. The address for that is: http://victorian.fortunecity.com/hampton/679/rwvets.htm. Below is the context of the citation on:

JACOB WHITNEY – 4/22/1751 – 9/22/1843, DIED AT AGE 94/5 SGT. ULSTER CO. NY MILITIA, BELLONA CEMETERY, TOWN OF BENTON, NY.

Does anyone have an idea who this Jacob Whitney is? I hope that this helps someone. Sheila

Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 17:36:59 -0700 From: moosie <[email protected]>

Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Ithaca, Tompkins County To: [email protected]

My gr gr grandparents married in Ithaca, Tompkins Co. N.Y. , December 1835. CHARLOTTE FORMAN was 17 years old and it is my understanding that she needed parental approval to marry at that age. She married JONAS WHITNEY of Marlborough, New Hampshire age 30 years . Where can I find confirmation of this marriage (newspapers or otherwise). Need to find names of parents of Charlotte Forman. Any information or clues greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Jerry Forman

Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 11:20:49 -0700 From: Shawn Whitney <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Jacob Whitney References: <002301be9410$7f363880$7862c0d8@jeanluc> To: [email protected]

Good morning everyone, I only have a moment but I wanted to respond quickly to Sheila's posting. I can not say "who" this Jacob WHITNEY is, but can add a bit more information to it.

I just received my index and two volumes of the Yates County NY cemetery listings. One of my lines - SHEARMAN - married into my WHITNEY line and was also located in Yates County. Here is what is listed for Bellona Cemetery in Benton NY:

WHITNEY, Jacob 1843 Sep 22 B1751 Apr 22 d ae 94/5 Revolutionary War sgt Ulster Co NY Militia

WHITNEY, Jane [1819 Feb 3] [D ae 61] w/o David W. WHITNEY [very worn]

WHITNEY, Mable 1847 May 29 D ae 85/2/19 w/o Jacob WHITNEY

Here is what is listed for the Lakeview Cemetery in Penn Yan, NY:

Purchase One Section Lyman Munger Lot

WHITNEY, Lydia A. 1860 Dec 17 B1777 Feb 3 Shelburne MA w/o Moses WHITNEY

Purchase Three East Section Cornelius Stratton Lot

WHITNEY, Lydia Simmons Stratton D. 1910 B1848 w/o Perry STRATTON and w/o Charles M. WHITNEY. d/o Peter Simmons

Unknown section (these were people who were listed in various sources as having died in Penn Yan but where not located in the cemeteries searched.

WHITNEY, Edward R. 1908 Dec 16 D ae 55 PY b. Yates Co.

Here are a list of names that were also in the index but in volumes that I did not purchase.

WHITNEY, Betsy L. West River Cemetery - Italy, NY - volume 3 WHITNEY, Fisher West River Cemetery - Italy, NY - volume 3 WHITNEY, Harriet Rushville Cemetery - Rushville, NY - volume 2 WHITNEY, James Voak Cemetery - Potter NY - volume 2

Hope this helps someone.

PS Denis, I rec'd your message. Will get back to you asap. We are supposed to be moving the garage today and my husband is looking over my shoulder saying...you don't have time for genealogy today!!! He just doesn't understand. whoa is me!

Shawn Whitney

sheila peel wrote:

> Hello group, > I also belong to another group that does genealogical research and one of > the participants has a site about the Finger Lakes area of NY State. The > individuals name is Wilson Simmons and he is the Town of Potter NY Historian > in Yates County. He has a site about the individuals that lived in the area > who were Revolutionary War Soldiers. The group is the Finger Lakes group at > [email protected]. By chance there is a Whitney within the > soldiers that are sited on his website. The address for that is: > http://victorian.fortunecity.com/hampton/679/rwvets.htm. > Below is the context of the citation on: > > JACOB WHITNEY – 4/22/1751 – 9/22/1843, DIED AT AGE 94/5 SGT. ULSTER > CO. NY MILITIA, BELLONA CEMETERY, TOWN OF BENTON, NY. > > Does anyone have an idea who this Jacob Whitney is? I hope that this helps > someone. > Sheila

From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 16:14:19 EDT Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Unknown Abigail Whitney To: [email protected]

Dear WRG:

I have recently acquired the CD version of Savage's Genealogical Dictionary of New England, and its companion volume, the Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire. I believe that the contents of the entries relating to Whitney in the Savage are being readied for availability, so I am concentrating on the appearances of the name Whitney as a spouse in other families, thus discovering something about the parents of many women who have married Whitneys.

Early on in the search of the CD, I came across this following entry.

>BAXTER, John, Salem, m. 25 Nov. 1667, Abigail Whitney (but, of so >common a surname, it is diffic. to find the f.) had John, b. 14 Dec. 1668; >Abigail, 15 Dec 1670; Eliz. 25 May 1673; and Mary, ...

A search of all the families of John & Elinor's descendants doesn't seem to turn up an Abigail Whitney, b. ca 1645/50 that could be the wife of this person. Can anyone enlighten me as to her possible ancestry? I thought at this period of time that all the J & E Whitneys were still right around Watertown. Robert Ward's monumental cross-index of all the MA VR's doesn't show any Abigails born until 1707, and I don't remember any of "our" Whitneys being in Salem anywhere near this time. I do remember that there were a couple of other Whitneys of unknown provenance who appeared in some of the very early records, but who didn't seem to have founded families. Perhaps this Abigail belongs to one of them, and represents just about the only known progeny.

I will wait (but hardly with bated breath - I can't afford it with my long abused lungs) for enlightenment.

Allan E. Green

From: "sheila peel" <[email protected]>

       "Shawn Whitney" <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Jacob Whitney Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 18:42:22 -0400 To: [email protected]

Shawn and group, Hi, thank you for returning my inquiry. I am going to buy the cemetery books from Yates Co. I just haven't ordered then yet.

Some of the Whitneys that you have cited on this page are related to me. The Lydia Simmons Stratton Whitney that is there is my great grandmother. The mother of my grandfather Herman Stratton. She was first married to Perry B Stratton who is my brickwall and has been for as long as I have been the family historian. I have a few pictures of her and my grandfather that I have scanned and have for a keepsake now. I only just came across them at Easter time when I was in Penn Yan. She married Charles M. Whitney after Perry B Stratton died he was 26 years older than she. I do not at this time have a family background on Charles M. Whitney. I beleive that he died in Bath, NY at the VA hospital and is buried in the Veterans graves there. I have him born in 1836 somewhere in NY State and he died January 23, 1918 in Bath, NY. Lydia and Charles were married in Penn Yan on 4/09/1898. Lydia Simmons was born in 1837 by census records in Bleeker, Fulton Co., NY and died as you said 6/6/1910 in Penn Yan. Cornelius Stratton, on the lot where she is laid to rest, was her son by Perry B Stratton. Do you have any idea who Charles would be descended from?

Perry had also been married once before to Mary Ann Clark b. 1815 ? in Steuben Co., NY. They had four children: Charity Stratton who married Henry W. Simmons, Lydia's brother: Martha Stratton who married Unknown Davis. Angeline Stratton who married William W Withey. Seth Stratton who died at an early age.

Perry B and Lydia had many children including my grandfather Herman. If you would like I can send you the list.

Charity and Henry SIMMONS had a daughter, Augusta Simmons who married Mahlon Eugene Withey son of Angeline Stratton and William W. Withey. (Cousins)

And the list goes on and on.

I also have talked to Keith Stratton from Prattsburg/Pulteney NY area that said that the Stratton family also married into the Sherman family. Do you have any of those marriages?

If you would like more information on the Stratton side that I do have, feel free to write and I would be glad to exchange info.

Thanks again, Sheila

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From: Shawn Whitney <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, May 02, 1999 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Jacob Whitney

>Good morning everyone, >I only have a moment but I wanted to respond quickly to Sheila's posting. I can >not say "who" this Jacob WHITNEY is, but can add a bit more information to it. > >I just received my index and two volumes of the Yates County NY cemetery >listings. One of my lines - SHEARMAN - married into my WHITNEY line and was >also located in Yates County. >Here is what is listed for Bellona Cemetery in Benton NY: > >WHITNEY, Jacob 1843 Sep 22 B1751 Apr 22 d ae 94/5 Revolutionary War sgt >Ulster Co NY Militia > >WHITNEY, Jane [1819 Feb 3] [D ae 61] w/o David W. WHITNEY [very worn] > >WHITNEY, Mable 1847 May 29 D ae 85/2/19 w/o Jacob WHITNEY > >Here is what is listed for the Lakeview Cemetery in Penn Yan, NY: > >Purchase One Section >Lyman Munger Lot > >WHITNEY, Lydia A. 1860 Dec 17 B1777 Feb 3 Shelburne MA w/o Moses WHITNEY > >Purchase Three East Section >Cornelius Stratton Lot > >WHITNEY, Lydia Simmons Stratton D. 1910 B1848 w/o Perry STRATTON and w/o >Charles M. WHITNEY. d/o Peter Simmons > >Unknown section (these were people who were listed in various sources as having >died in Penn Yan but where not located in the cemeteries searched. > >WHITNEY, Edward R. 1908 Dec 16 D ae 55 PY b. Yates Co. > >Here are a list of names that were also in the index but in volumes that I did >not purchase. > >WHITNEY, Betsy L. West River Cemetery - Italy, NY - volume 3 >WHITNEY, Fisher West River Cemetery - Italy, NY - volume 3 >WHITNEY, Harriet Rushville Cemetery - Rushville, NY - volume 2 >WHITNEY, James Voak Cemetery - Potter NY - volume 2 > >Hope this helps someone. > >PS Denis, I rec'd your message. Will get back to you asap. We are supposed to >be moving the garage today and my husband is looking over my shoulder >saying...you don't have time for genealogy today!!! He just doesn't >understand. whoa is me! > >Shawn Whitney > >sheila peel wrote: > >> Hello group, >> I also belong to another group that does genealogical research and one of >> the participants has a site about the Finger Lakes area of NY State. The >> individuals name is Wilson Simmons and he is the Town of Potter NY Historian >> in Yates County. He has a site about the individuals that lived in the area >> who were Revolutionary War Soldiers. The group is the Finger Lakes group at >> [email protected]. By chance there is a Whitney within the >> soldiers that are sited on his website. The address for that is: >> http://victorian.fortunecity.com/hampton/679/rwvets.htm. >> Below is the context of the citation on: >> >> JACOB WHITNEY – 4/22/1751 – 9/22/1843, DIED AT AGE 94/5 SGT. ULSTER >> CO. NY MILITIA, BELLONA CEMETERY, TOWN OF BENTON, NY. >> >> Does anyone have an idea who this Jacob Whitney is? I hope that this helps >> someone. >> Sheila >

From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 16:13:51 EDT Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Another child for Ruth Whitney & Enoch Lawrence To: [email protected]

Dear WRG:

I'm continuing to play with my new CD version of Savage's Genealogical Dictionary of New England, and came across a fourth child for Ruth-3 Whitney (John-2, John-1) and her second husband, Enoch Lawrence. This child does not appear in Whitny13, so I have included the information below.

Jeremiah Lawrence, b. 1 May 1686, (prob.) Groton, Middlesex, MA -- that was his father's place of residence, but I don't actually have all the VR for Groton (just the Whitney entries) so I can't be positive it appears in these VR. No further information.

Happy Hunting!

Allan E. Green

From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 08:11:53 EDT Subject: [WHITNEY-L] LONG SHOT ON A HUNCH To: [email protected]

Hello and help.

I recently got into tracing family roots and can go back to Revolutionary War through some branches, however, I've hit the wall on my paternal side. I have good reason to believe that I am somehow a "Whitney" since it was out family tradition (as many other families) to assign the maternal surnames as given names.

Father -- Francis Whitney Douglass (Francis was his mother's maiden name) Grandfather -- Whitney Winfield Douglass (Mother Mary Ann Apfel) GGrandfather -- Daniel E. Douglass (The brick wall)

I have a little info (dates & places) on Daniel and Mary Ann through their obituaries, however, their lineage is a mystery.

I think one of them had a mother or grandmother "Whitney." I know it is a stretch for this branch but I'm out here on the twig and need a limb in order to get rooted. (sorry for the literary license couldn't help myself)

Does anyone have a possible connection???

Loretta [email protected]

From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:45:14 EDT

       [email protected], [email protected]

Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Fwd: stolen tombstones at auction To: [email protected]

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Dear Friends:

I just got this from Larry Stevens at IU, former owner of the Maiser service. I know that many of you have seen all the messages on this topic on the various lists, and would be enlightened by this response.

Allan E. Green

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From: "Stephens, Larry V" <[email protected]> Subject: stolen tombstones at auction To: [email protected]

It has been reported on several lists that tombstones and grave markers - allegedly stolen - are being sold on the Internet auction service eBay.

Below is further information that has been forwarded to me. PLEASE NOTE: Please don't ask me about the information below. After you read it you'll know as much as I do.

I received the following information from Rob Chesnut, Associate General Counsel for eBay. The company has been made aware of the legitimate concerns we have regarding the auctioning of used grave markers - an act which is both offensive and criminal. If you have , questions or comments you can contact Rob Chesnut at (408) 558-5948 or [email protected] .

When eBay learns that an illicit item is on its site, it promptly removes the item. However, with approximately 2 million items for sale at any given time, and with over 250,000 new items placed on the site each day, some illicit items may go unnoticed for several days. We depend on our community to work with us in locating and identifying illicit items so that we can quickly remove them.

In this case, eBay has promptly removed every tombstone brought to its

attention, informed the sellers that such markers are not allowed on the site, and refunded all fees in connection with these auctions to ensure that eBay has in no way received money for this activity. To discourage future listings of tombstones on the site, eBay will also be posting rules on its site shortly regarding the sale of artifacts which will specifically inform users that the sale of historical tombstones is illegal in many states and is prohibited on eBay.

eBay has received information that at least some of the items brought to our attention are not tombstones, but historical grave markers given to families of Civil War veterans. In many cases, these grave markers were never actually used as grave markers, but kept by families as mementos. In those instances, the markers are not stolen property, and if they were never used as for tombstones their sale may be lawful. eBay is investigating whether these items can be lawfully sold, and will post information on the site when it makes a final decision.

eBay will be contacting law enforcement and encouraging authorities to investigate whether historical marker posted on its site was stolen. eBay will cooperate fully in any investigation of illegal activity, and will provide records to law enforcement on the sellers of any illegal item. eBay appreciates the efforts of those who have contacted us concerning these postings. Concerned law enforcement authorities or interested citizens may contact Associate General Counsel Rob Chesnut at (408) 558-5948 if they have further questions on this matter.

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From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 18:03:44 EDT Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Fwd: stolen tombstones at auction To: [email protected]

Allan,

Thank you for posting this response.

However, as I reminded folks on another list, sometimes we get our shorts in a knot without knowing the facts. These markers may well have been legitimately obtained and there is nothing illegal about selling them. The government issued grave markers are very often replaced by family at a later date, often because they want a tombstone with both husband and wife on it, or they just want bigger and nicer. This occurred in my own family when my uncle's son decided to replace his government marker with an engraved tombstone. He was given the option of removing the old, and doing with it what he wanted, or he could place it below the tombstone on the grave. He chose to remove it and it is now in his brother's garden. But if they are not stolen, it is not illegal to sell them. Sometimes the name is spelled wrong and it becomes a useless piece of stone that the tombstone company sells for what they can get out of it. I know it seemed an outrage at first glance, but folks need to investigate things before jumping to extreme conclusions. Contacting the seller would have probably given the most appropriate explanation. Just offering another possible explanation. Of course WHY someone would want to buy a grave marker of a stranger is beyond me. And think about shipping, those puppies are HEAVY. All in all, it seems rather ridiculous. Jo Hogle

Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 20:52:45 -0400 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Unknown Abigail Whitney To: [email protected]

At 04:14 PM 5/3/99 EDT, [email protected] wrote: >Dear WRG: > >I have recently acquired the CD version of Savage's Genealogical Dictionary >of New England, and its companion volume, the Genealogical Dictionary of >Maine and New Hampshire. I believe that the contents of the entries relating >to Whitney in the Savage are being readied for availability, so I am >concentrating on the appearances of the name Whitney as a spouse in other >families, thus discovering something about the parents of many women who have >married Whitneys. > >Early on in the search of the CD, I came across this following entry. > >>BAXTER, John, Salem, m. 25 Nov. 1667, Abigail Whitney (but, of so >common a >surname, it is diffic. to find the f.) had John, b. 14 Dec. 1668; >Abigail, >15 Dec 1670; Eliz. 25 May 1673; and Mary, ... > >A search of all the families of John & Elinor's descendants doesn't seem to >turn up an Abigail Whitney, b. ca 1645/50 that could be the wife of this >person. Can anyone enlighten me as to her possible ancestry? I thought at >this period of time that all the J & E Whitneys were still right around >Watertown. Robert Ward's monumental cross-index of all the MA VR's doesn't >show any Abigails born until 1707, and I don't remember any of "our" Whitneys >being in Salem anywhere near this time. I do remember that there were a >couple of other Whitneys of unknown provenance who appeared in some of the >very early records, but who didn't seem to have founded families. Perhaps >this Abigail belongs to one of them, and represents just about the only known >progeny. > >I will wait (but hardly with bated breath - I can't afford it with my long >abused lungs) for enlightenment. > >Allan E. Green

Allan et alia,

According to Clarence Almon Torrey's _New England Marriages Prior to 1700_, John BAXTER m. Abigail WHITERIG (i.e. WHITTRIDGE), not WHITNEY. Sounds to me like a problem reading handwriting.

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/> 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 21:02:15 -0400 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Another child for Ruth Whitney & Enoch Lawrence To: [email protected]

At 04:13 PM 5/4/99 EDT, [email protected] wrote: >Dear WRG: > >I'm continuing to play with my new CD version of Savage's Genealogical >Dictionary of New England, and came across a fourth child for Ruth-3 Whitney >(John-2, John-1) and her second husband, Enoch Lawrence. This child does not >appear in Whitny13, so I have included the information below. > >Jeremiah Lawrence, b. 1 May 1686, (prob.) Groton, Middlesex, MA -- that was >his father's place of residence, but I don't actually have all the VR for >Groton (just the Whitney entries) so I can't be positive it appears in these >VR. No further information. > >Happy Hunting! > >Allan E. Green

Allan et al.,

This person can be found at

 <http://www.whitneygen.org/families/johnw/john13.html#i40>

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif">

<http://www.erols.com/rlward1/> 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 21:18:53 -0400 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] LONG SHOT ON A HUNCH To: [email protected]

At 08:11 AM 5/5/99 EDT, you wrote: >Hello and help. > >I recently got into tracing family roots and can go back to Revolutionary War >through some branches, however, I've hit the wall on my paternal side. I have >good reason to believe that I am somehow a "Whitney" since it was out family >tradition (as many other families) to assign the maternal surnames as given >names. > >Father -- Francis Whitney Douglass (Francis was his mother's maiden name) >Grandfather -- Whitney Winfield Douglass (Mother Mary Ann Apfel) >GGrandfather -- Daniel E. Douglass (The brick wall) > >I have a little info (dates & places) on Daniel and Mary Ann through their >obituaries, however, their lineage is a mystery. > >I think one of them had a mother or grandmother "Whitney." I know it is a >stretch for this branch but I'm out here on the twig and need a limb in order >to get rooted. (sorry for the literary license couldn't help myself) > >Does anyone have a possible connection??? > >Loretta >[email protected]

Loretta,

I haven't any record of any DOUGLASS-WHITNEY or APFEL-WHITNEY connection. Of course, you haven't given any dates or places to narrow the search. Sorry!

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/> 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 00:57:43 EDT Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Bad Address for Bud Reel To: [email protected]

Dear WRG:

I got a query about the Savage GenDictNE on CD from a Bud Reel with the address <[email protected]> and my answer came back with addressee unknown. If Bud is on the list, or anyone else knows him, please send me another address so I can send him my response.

Thanks.

Allan E. Green

From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 16:22:33 EDT Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Laura Whitney and Peter Atwood To: [email protected]

Hi, I'm hoping that someone out there will be able to answer this question. I'm researching Laura Whitney (b. abt: 1792 d. unknown). She was the daughter of Mary Blair and Peter Whitney (dates unknown--but believed to be from MA). I have Laura Whitney's brothers and sisters. They were: George, Hezekiah, Theodore, Nancy, Dolly, Elizabeth. Laura married a man called Peter Atwood (b. abt: 1791 d. abt. 1855) in Chester, MA on October 24, 1814. She was apparently pregnant at the time of their marriage (noticed the date of their marriage and the year their daughter was born). Their daughter was Sophia Atwood (b. abt. 1814 d. 3-22-1871). Sophia was my ggg-grandmother. On the back of a photo of Sophia, it was written that she was "part-Indian". We have traced her mother's Whitney lineage back to England. We have noticed, that it appears the Whitney family didn't keep up with her after she married Peter Atwood.....maybe because Laura was pregnant when she married him (?).....or maybe he was Native American (?). We have had trouble finding much birth/death info on Peter. On a census record, it has him as being born in New York State...and I think, dying there as well. He lived in both MA and NY at different times. The LDS Church has a Peter Atwood...but their information and names do not accurately match our family records, so it is believed to be an incorrect match. It is possible, if Peter was Native American, that "Peter Atwood" wasn't his real name, but just a name he "borrowed". He had a second marriage to Mehitable Phebe Clark 12-21-1825 in Chester, MA...and raised a whole new family. Sophia, however was not mentioned amongst them on census records. On Sophia's death certificate, however, M. Phebe Clark was listed as her "mother".....so evidently it was Peter's second wife who raised Laura's daughter. My question is: What ever happened to Laura Whitney? Was she a birth child of the Whitney's or perhaps an adopted Native American child? (which happened frequently--but wasn't discussed). I'm trying to find out where Sophia Atwood's Native American heritage came from. I've even wondered if perhaps Laura Whitney and Peter Atwood adopted her---maybe she was a Native American child. Sophia Atwood went on to marry Joel Daniels (b. abt.1803 d. 10-03-1895) in Becket, MA (not sure of year). If anyone out there has any information on our Laura Whitney, I'd love to hear from you. She deserves to be remembered.....and maybe in the process our Native American mystery will be solved as well. You can write to me at: [email protected] Thank you..... Bev Tiner

From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 23:55:50 EDT Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Re: WHITNEY-D Digest V99 #110 To: [email protected]

Hi, Loretta,

    About your Douglass's:  you didn't give any dates, so I don't know if

this is even a possibility for you: I have an Elizabeth DOUGLASS (not related to me). She was the second wife of my great grandfather, James ARMSTRONG. His first wife died in Amityville, NY, in 1901, and James marr Elizabeth DOUGLASS 14 July 1903. James died in 1917 @ Lakewood, NJ.

    Are the dates within the range of your Douglasses?  I don't know

anything more about Elizabeth, but maybe this could give you a jumping-off place in your search.

    Hope this helps you a little!

Best, Barbara

From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 00:56:59 EDT Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Laura Whitney and Peter Atwood To: [email protected]

Dear Bev:

I have been intrigued by the puzzle your query represents. I do find an indication in our database of the marriage of Peter-6 Whitney (Timothy-5, Jonas-4, Moses-3, Richard-2, John-1), born 20 Apr 1762 in Petersham, Worcester, MA, to a Mary Blair. However, the database gives no date or place for such marriage, and it is not to be found in the index to the collected VR's of MA. A search of the same index does not find the birth of any of the children you have named as siblings for the Laura of your inquiry to a Peter and Mary Whitney.

Since you were also suggesting connections to New York, I searched the Whitney census index for 1800 and 1810 and could find no Peter Whitneys listed in that state in either year. There was one P. Whitney of Niagara County in 1810, but the age groupings were such that it could not be the family you cited.

The Chester Whitney VR extracts do show the publishing on 29 Oct 1814 of an intent to marry for a Laura Whitney and a Peter Atwood. This is five days after the date you cited for their marriage. Often, if an intent to marry is published but no actual marriage date is given, it often means that one of the parties is from that community and the other (usually the wife) is from somewhere else, and the marriage record itself is found in her hometown. However, there are no other entries in the index for a Laura Whitney at all.

Your argument is supported, however, by the death record in Chester, Hampden, MA, of a Peter Whitney, aged 66 on 5 Mar 1826 - essentially two years off from the birthdate for Peter-6 Whitney in 1762; and _____, the widow of Peter Whitney on 11 Mar 1826 of influenza, aged 60. The latter, assuming that this is Mary Blair, would mean that she was born ca. 1766, and thus likely to be getting married in the late 1780's. Your data is also buttressed by the death of a son of Peter and wife, George Whitney, dying at age 13 on 19 Jul 1804, making him born ca 1791 -- just before your bd for your Laura.

I'm not quite sure where the name Laura might have come from -- perhaps the Blair family, as it does not become at all common in the Whitneys until the 1830's and 1840's. Hezekiah as a name for a son of Peter-6 Whitney has a clear origin in that it was the name of one of his younger brothers. However, none of the other names that you give for siblings for Laura and children of Peter-6 and Mary appear in his own family, nor were they found as names for siblings of Peter's father, Timothy-5 Whitney.

Perhaps you could pass on some information on the sources from which you gathered the information in your posting -- i.e., the connection of the Laura Whitney who married Peter Atwood to the parents Peter-6 and Mary (Blair) Whitney; the names of the remainder of their listed children other than Laura, the places of their residence if outside of MA, etc. If we had some better idea of how you got to your present point and your present questions, we might better come up with information or suggestions that would be helpful to you.

I hope you will also hear from other members of the WRG, who may have better thoughts or information than I do.

Sincerely,

Allan E. Green

From: "jetjock" <[email protected]> Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 00:16:47 -0700 Organization: None Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Whitney's of Augusta Twp., Grenville Co., Canada. To: [email protected]

I would like to know if anyone knows more about the wives and children of David Whitney, found in Pierce on page 112, #560.

Pierce says he was the son of Matthias and that he was born in Killingly, CT in 1754 (also given as 1764 on father's page 59, good old Pierce). David m1st Olive Day. Does anyone know anything about her, her parents, dates, children, etc.? David m 2nd Mary Glassford and my reason for researching these people is that my g-g-grandfather is supposed to have been "a Glassford Whitney", a middle name found twice four generations removed from David. I know who Mary Glassford was and have quite a bit on the Glassford (Glasford) families but can't connect. David's children (by which wife?) are listed in Pierce however I think from searches I have done in that area of Canada that all those listed are not his. They were: Lucy, David, Cynthia, Comfort, Mary, Asa, Alanson, Samuel, Sarah, Olive, David again, Calvin, Asa again, and John.

David's stone is found in the old section of Maynard Cemetery, lot 64, age 67 (b 1763) and a duplicate stone is next to his which says "Mary", probably his wife. The Toronto "Christian guardian" newspaper published 4 Apr., 1832. "Died in Augusta Friday last, Mary, widow of the late David Whitney, age about 45. (David senior's wife? Rather young)

Of the 56 records I have in my data base of Whitney's in Grenville Co., Augusta Twp. alone, I have the following people that might be his children, or others of David's age bracket I know to be located close to his land.

Alanson was born about 1822 and is buried in lot 209, Maynard Cemetery, s/o Samuel!

Calvin was born 14 Jan., 1816 & m 1st Hiltha Scott, m 2nd Caroline Conklin who was b Oct., 1818 & d 28 Nov., 1856, both buried old section of Manayd Cemetery, lots 19 & 19. m 3rd Isabella Harrison. I don't know the mothers of the children of Calvin who were (not in birth order) Amerilla, Francis [sic] Maria, Sarah, Caroline, Lucy, James Harvey, John, Calvin, Martin, George, Thomas, Mary Elizabeth, & four others. The 1861/2 atlas of shows seven Whitney lots close together just NW of Prescott, names on them are Calvin, D., Samuel, E., C., David.

Comfort was a veteran of the War of 1812 and his stone is in Maynard Cemetery, d 30 Dec., 1875. He m 1st Anna, she d 14 Mar., 1830, he m 2nd Lucretia Dake. Ch= Chauncey, Joseph, Augustus, Leonie, Mrs. Ambrose Newans.

Cynthia d 3 Apr., 1876, age 83. She m James Holden who d 3 oct., 1863, age 86y 11d. Both buried Maynard cemetery. Ch= David, James, Eliza, Lois, Sophronia, Mary, Anna, Cynthia.

David Jr. d 14 Jun., 1889, 77y & m Sophronia Wood 18 Mar., 1833, both of Augusta, d/o Rev. Anthony. Wit. Joseph & Anthony Wood. They had three sons living, W.A. Whitney, M.A. of Morrisburg, P.A. of Brantford, George M. of Merrickville. A daughter was Mrs. A. McCrea of Minn. In the Maynard Cemetery, lot 50, is a stone for Henry W., b 9 Aug., 1841, s/o David & Sophronia, age 8m, and also one for Arnold, b 23 Jul., 1839, age 1m 11d.

George M. tombstone dates at Maynard Cemetery are 1847-1913, lot 4. Wife Mary C. Robinson d 1854, Grace A. 1888-1895, David W. 1812-1889. Sophronia, David Jr.'s wife 1815-1892. Georgina 1876-1921.

James H., s/o Calvin is buried in the old section of the Maynard Cemetery, lot 14.

Joseph C., s/o Samuel, buried Maynard Cemetery, lot 80, 1839-1928. Wife Abigail 1841-1922.

Sarah Jane, called Sally, b 11 Dec., 1805, d26 Mar., 1881, m Henry Hodge in 1825, wit. George Glassford. Henry's brother was Timothy, Jr. & m Sidney Glassford who was b 1794.

Finally the end of those that might be related to David. A second Whitney / Glassford marriage was of William Whitney of Montreal, who m Ann Amelia Glassford 29 Jul., 1820 at Point Clare just W of Montreal. d/o James Glassford.

Can you add to this? Thanks,,,, Ben Whitney

Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne Muse" <[email protected]>

Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 07:06:00 -0400 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Re: DRISKO information To: [email protected]

Frances: I am not a Drisko descendant, but while collecting information on the Whitney surname, I received this information and added it to my database:

Chandler DRISKO married Ruth Ruggles WHITNEY on 1 May 1823. Ruth Ruggles Whitney, b. 3 apr 1805, was the daughter of Joseph Whitney and Mary C. Libby.

Thus, Ruth Ruggles WHITNEY descends from John Whitney and his wife Elinor ? of Watertown, Mass., immigrants from England, through their son Benjamin Whitney.

-) Jeanne W. Muse

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 5:17 PM Subject: DRISKO information

>Just viewed you data on the Gendex, and can help you with DRISKO information. >Please advise what lines you need info on - I am a longtime DRISKO researcher >and am preparing a book which will include three Maine lines - those of >DRISKO - CROCKER and FOSTER. I would appreciate any info you have , if you >are a DRISKO descendant. Sincerely, Frances STERLING Drisko

>[email protected] ) >

From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 03:59:18 EDT Subject: [WHITNEY-L] NH Whitney Civil War Burial To: [email protected]

Dear WRG:

Exploring various web sites tonight -- just browsing around -- found a Whitney entry that might be of use to someone.

Webster, NH, Civil War Burials (Merrimac County) BILLS (18th Infantry Co. I) Charles Whitney d. 1902-bu. Webster, NH

Allan E. Green

From: "Christopher Whitmey" <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:28:12 +0100 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] WHITNEY -MEY in BKM & NTH To: [email protected]

In several indexes (including GRO!) I have found my Whitmey's indexed as WhitNey.

If any one has had the reverse and problem and has refs to any WHITMEY in Buckinghamshire or Northamptonshire UK pre 1837 I would welcome any information.

TIA

Christopher Whitmey

Oldstone Furlong, Fownhope, Hereford, England Researching: WHITMEY (often indexed/noted as whitNey!), Berks, Bucks, Hants, Wilts Earliest known: James Whitmey b. (1770's) Olney?, Bucks. m. Mary Dixon b.(1770's)

From: "jetjock" <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:22:28 -0700 Organization: None Subject: [WHITNEY-L] William Whitney & Lois Stone. To: [email protected]

In the 1860 census of Granville, Licking Co., Ohio I find a William Whitney, age 50, born MA and Lois S. (Stone?) age 58, born VT. They are in the residence of a Wallas Carpenter, age 36, born VT.

On 2 Dec., 1827 there was published an intention to marry between William B. Whitney and Lois Stone of Fitzwilliam, NH. I also have it that he announced intentions at Winchendon, Worcester Co., MA, same date.

There resides in the small town of Granville in that time frame a William Barret Whitney who is found in Pierce, page 460. Pierce shows him to have married but twice, neither is a Lois Stone, yet he was in Granville after having married Julia Emerson in Muskingum Co., Ohio, in 1840, she died in 1864, he then married Mrs. Catherine (Hall) Courtney in 1866 and they are both buried in the Maple Grove Cemetery in Granville.

You'll notice that William Barret was married to Julia at the time the William and Lois S. were in Granville and found on the 1860 census. Further, Julia and William were buying lots in Granville in 1859. So who is the William B. married to Lois Stone?

To further confuse the issue, Catherine Hall was born in Yates Co., NY, the daughter of Joseph who was a veteran of the War of 1812. He had married a Mary Black. Both were from Scotland and met on the boat to America. Now ... My g-grandfather's father was supposed to be "a Glassford Whitney" and his wife's surname was Black. I just received that information and guess what? There is a Glassford, Scotland. I have been searching Whitney / Glassford marriages all these years! My Milton Whitney would not have been a Whitney if he was the son of Joseph and Mary Black, but a Hall. Any ideas on how to proceed?

Thanks, Ben Whitney

From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 00:38:30 EDT Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Notice from To: [email protected]

Dear WRG:

A kind person is publishing various compilations of Marriage and Death notices from the Boston Weekly Journal. I found the information below with a name search. Where the Whitney as a middle name came from, I have no idea.

August 26, 1886. Stanley - In Falmouth, MA, Aug. 22, Robert Whitney, eldest son of Edward Otis and Caroline Clinton Stanley, 2 yrs 3 mos 27 days

Allan E. Green

Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne Muse" <[email protected]> Subject: Fw: [WHITNEY-L] Catlow/Whitney Family Organization Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 07:23:57 -0400 To: [email protected]

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From: Marion Leska <[email protected]> To: Jeanne Muse <[email protected]> Date: Friday, May 14, 1999 2:11 AM Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Catlow/Whitney Family Organization

>Jeanne, >When I first started my quest for the Whitneys, I was living in Barrington. >(The movie theater there was called "The Catlow") As I recall, there was a >self-published copy (typewritten) of a Whitney-Catlow Genealogy either in >the Barrington Library, the Palatine Library, or the Arlington Heights >Library. Since I now live in Nevada, I can't check it out for you, but maybe >somebody in Illinois could. These are all Northwest suburbs of Chicago. >Marion Leska > >

From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:25:29 EDT Subject: Re: Fw: [WHITNEY-L] Catlow/Whitney Family Organizatio

       [email protected]

To: [email protected]

Dear Jeanne and Marion:

I too lived in Barrington, IL (having moved from Arlington Heights, IL, another town mentioned in your message). I never realized there had been such a strong Whitney presence in the Barrington area. My grandfather Albert Lotall Whitney-10 ( Albert Radenbaugh-9; Albert Galitan-8; Wait-7; Thomas-6; Peter-5; Josiah-4; then EITHER: Josiah-3; Jonathan-2; John-1 OR Josiah-3: Benjamin-2; John-1?) moved from Chicago to Barrington in the late 50's/ early 60's and shortly afterward three of his sons moved with their families to the same area.

If no one offers to check the libraries in Barrington and Arlington Heights for the copy of the Whitney-Catlow genealogy you mentioned, I would be happy to do so when I am in that area next July. Please let me know if I can be of service.

Best Regards,

Greg Whitney [email protected] P.S. The Catlow movie theater is a fabulous old-fashioned theater!

Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:08:07 +0100 From: Edward Sinker <[email protected]>

Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Whitney, Herefordshire, UK, Registers To: [email protected]

Hi

I saw the following request on the the MIDMARCH list and thought that someone might know the answer to this. You think that I should know, living in Herefordshire but I don't. - Ed

From: "Ros Dunnico" <[email protected]> Subject: Whitney Parish Registers Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:22:12 +0100 To: [email protected]

Dear All, Here is a poser for you. I am trying to find extracts or transcriptions of the Whitney, Herefordshire, Parish Registers from 1591 - 1740. Hereford RO has the BTs from 1660s and the PRs from 1740. The old register from 1591 - 1740 was in existence until about 1896 when it disappeared. I know a number of people saw the old registers before they disappeared and I am wondering if anyone has seen any copies of them in any libraries, ROs, etc. It is possible the registers went to the US so if anyone has seen them or copies of them over there, please let me know. Any odd entries will be appreciated as I am making a list of entries with the hope in time of compiling an index of all of them. Can anyone help, please. Ros Dunnico. Leigh-on-Sea, Essex.

MIDMARCH Mailing List

From: [email protected] Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:15:30 EDT Subject: [WHITNEY-L] New England Genealogy web sites To: [email protected]

You may already know of these sites, but I found them only recently and am having so much fun, I just had to share. 1. A site where New England His and Gen books are online to access. They are mostly early New England. http://genweb.net/~blackwell/books.html http://genweb.net/~books/ http://genweb.net/~books/blinks.html 2. Savage's four volume Dictionary of First Families of New England http://genweb.net/savage/SavageVol1.txt http://genweb.net/savage/SavageVol2.txt http://genweb.net/savage/SavageVol3.txt http://genweb.net/savage/SavageVol4.txt Vol. 1 is A-C; Vol 2 is D-J; Vol 3 is K-R and 4 is S-Z 3. Another great site for early New England is www.mayflowerfamilies.com Cooke's book is there. Hope these help. Karen Grubaugh

From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 00:00:13 EDT Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Another notice from the Boston Journal To: [email protected]

Dear WRG:

Here's another notice culled from the Boston Journal.

Boston Weekly Journal, Thursday, Nov. 3, 1887

Whitney-Sawyer - In Somerville, Oct. 26, by Rev. Edward H. Hall, Augustus A. Whitney of Cambridge to Evelyn A. Sawyer of Somerville

Hope this helps someone.

Allan E. Green

Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 23:49:06 -0600 From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] George R. Whitney To: [email protected]

Found the following family at:

 http://genweb.net/~blackwell/ma/bridgewaternorth/pg682.html#whitn

                                                  FAMILY REGISTER.

                                                   The Whitney Family.
                                                         page 682.

  1.WHITNEY.--GEORGE R. WHITNEY, born May 27, 1829; came from

Provincetown, Mass., April 27, 1854; married Pauline Brown, dau. of Thomas

    Hilliard, of Provincetown, June 27, 1852.
       Children:--
  2.George Hilliard, b. July 4, 1853.
  3.Frank Thomas, b. Feb. 18, 1856.
  4.Arthur Wilson, b. Jan. 16, 1858.
  5.Charles Brown, b. Oct. 4, 1860.
  6.Freddie Holmes, b. Oct. 12, 1862.
  7.Pauline Leonard, b. Nov. 1, 1865.
       Surgeon-dentist, Main Street, North Bridgewater.

Tim Doyle http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ [email protected] ftp://ftp.doit.com/pub/tdoyle/

Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 09:57:13 -0400 To: Tim Doyle <[email protected]>, [email protected] From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] George R. Whitney

At 11:49 PM 5/15/99 -0600, Tim Doyle wrote: >Found the following family at: > > http://genweb.net/~blackwell/ma/bridgewaternorth/pg682.html#whitn > > > > FAMILY REGISTER. > > The Whitney Family. > page 682. > > 1.WHITNEY.--GEORGE R. WHITNEY, born May 27, 1829; came from >Provincetown, Mass., April 27, 1854; married Pauline Brown, dau. of Thomas > Hilliard, of Provincetown, June 27, 1852. > Children:-- > 2.George Hilliard, b. July 4, 1853. > 3.Frank Thomas, b. Feb. 18, 1856. > 4.Arthur Wilson, b. Jan. 16, 1858. > 5.Charles Brown, b. Oct. 4, 1860. > 6.Freddie Holmes, b. Oct. 12, 1862. > 7.Pauline Leonard, b. Nov. 1, 1865. > Surgeon-dentist, Main Street, North Bridgewater. >---------------------------------------------------------------- >Tim Doyle http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ >[email protected] ftp://ftp.doit.com/pub/tdoyle/

This is George Reddington-8 WHITNEY [Simon-7, Simon-6, Timothy-5, Jonas-4, Moses-3, Richard-2, John-1], #4627 on pages 504-505 of Pierce:

 <http://www.gentree.com/whitney/pierce/p501-505.htm>

He was born in Duxbury, MA, and his birth appears in the vital records of that town:

 <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/mass/duxbury.html>

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/> 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 09:57:13 -0400 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif">

Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] George R. Whitney To: [email protected]

At 11:49 PM 5/15/99 -0600, Tim Doyle wrote: >Found the following family at: > > http://genweb.net/~blackwell/ma/bridgewaternorth/pg682.html#whitn > > > > FAMILY REGISTER. > > The Whitney Family. > page 682. > > 1.WHITNEY.--GEORGE R. WHITNEY, born May 27, 1829; came from >Provincetown, Mass., April 27, 1854; married Pauline Brown, dau. of Thomas > Hilliard, of Provincetown, June 27, 1852. > Children:-- > 2.George Hilliard, b. July 4, 1853. > 3.Frank Thomas, b. Feb. 18, 1856. > 4.Arthur Wilson, b. Jan. 16, 1858. > 5.Charles Brown, b. Oct. 4, 1860. > 6.Freddie Holmes, b. Oct. 12, 1862. > 7.Pauline Leonard, b. Nov. 1, 1865. > Surgeon-dentist, Main Street, North Bridgewater. >---------------------------------------------------------------- >Tim Doyle http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ >[email protected] ftp://ftp.doit.com/pub/tdoyle/

This is George Reddington-8 WHITNEY [Simon-7, Simon-6, Timothy-5, Jonas-4, Moses-3, Richard-2, John-1], #4627 on pages 504-505 of Pierce:

 <http://www.gentree.com/whitney/pierce/p501-505.htm>

He was born in Duxbury, MA, and his birth appears in the vital records of that town:

 <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/mass/duxbury.html>

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/> 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 10:16:13 -0400 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Notice from To: [email protected]

At 12:38 AM 5/14/99 EDT, [email protected] wrote: >Dear WRG: > >A kind person is publishing various compilations of Marriage and Death >notices from the Boston Weekly Journal. I found the information below with a >name search. Where the Whitney as a middle name came from, I have no idea. > >August 26, 1886. >Stanley - In Falmouth, MA, Aug. 22, Robert Whitney, eldest son of Edward >Otis and Caroline Clinton Stanley, 2 yrs 3 mos 27 days > >Allan E. Green

I notice that on p. 366 of Pierce appears Harriett-8 WHITNEY [Martin-7, James-6, Benjamin-5, James-4, John-3, Jonathan-2, John-1], b. 23 Nov 1816, who m. 6 Jan 1847, Otis STANLEY, res. North Attleborough, MA, and had two children. My guess is that Edward Otis STANLEY was one of those two children. Her sister Emily-8 WHITNEY, b. 6 Feb 1813, m. 26 Feb 1842, Oliver STANLEY, res. North Attleborough, MA, and had three children. Possibly Edward Otis STANLEY was one of those three.

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/> 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne Muse" <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 17:38:37 -0400 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Pittsfield, Mass. Voters To: [email protected]

Some Whitneys were found in the issue of the Berkshire Genealogist I received in today's mail:

Source: Berkshire Genealogist, Volume 20 Number 2, page 59

Voters of Pittsfield, Massachusetts - 1802, 1809, 1810

   "This is a cumulative list for the years 1802, 1809 and 1810.  While

alphabetical arrangement of the lists of 1802 and 1810 indicates completeness, the list for 1809 is labeled "Additional List of Voters, 1809." The basic original list for 1809 is not in our collection.

WHITNEY Abijah 1802 Appleton 1802, 1810 Asa 1802 Joshua 1802, 1810 Joshua, Junr 1802 Milton 1810 Noah 1802

_____________________________

-) Jeanne W. Muse

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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 16:21:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Barry Whitney <[email protected]>

Subject: [WHITNEY-L] William Marcellus Whitney To: [email protected]

Might any of you have any information on the following family or their descendants?

       1       William Marcellus Whitney       b: March 18, 1827 in

Philadelphia, NY d: July 25, 1905 .. +Ida Drought m: March 25, 1884 ..... 2 Grace Nadine Whitney b: May 03, 1887 ......... +??? Rogers m: April 22, 1908 ............. 3 Beatrice Nadine Rogers b: June 14, 1909 ..... 2 Betsey Whitney b: May 27, 1889 ..... 2 Hazel Dell Whitney b: March 23, 1892

http://members.tripod.com/~bwhitney/marcellus.htm

Genealogy Search Suggestions http://members.tripod.com/~bwhitney/

From: "Sally Towns" <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:14:43 -0400 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] NEED HELP To: [email protected]

Hi All;

I am working at filling in husbands line of family and need to do some searching in Canada. The name of the town is beleived to be Verdum, but don't know Province. Can anyone tell me where to start for Canada info. that would be on internet???

Thanks Sally Whitney Towns [email protected]

From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:56:46 EDT Subject: [WHITNEY-L] More from the Boston Journal To: [email protected]

Dear WRG:

A few more Whitney entries in this newspaper.

Boston Weekly Journal, Thursday, Mar. 7, 1889 Marriages: VanWagner-Whitney - In this city, Mar. 3, by Rev. M. R. Deming, Nelson VanWagner and Mary C. Whitney, both of Boston

Deaths: Whitney - In Westboro, Mar. 2, Christopher Whitney, 61 yrs

Boston Weekly Journal, Thursday, Apr. 4, 1889 Deaths: Greenleaf - In Jamaica Plain, Apr. 2, Mary P., widow of Richard Greenleaf and daughter of the late Rev. Peter Whitney of Quincy

Allan E. Green

Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne Muse" <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:08:26 -0400 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Robinson Whitney & Else Chadburn To: [email protected]

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 12:45 PM Subject: else

>Jeanne: >I just saw your surname of Else Chadburn m Robinson Whitney. Spelled >Chadburn, but son named John Chadbourn. Can you confirm the spelling? And >where was this? The Chadbourne Family Association has a quite complete >genealogy and I'm wondering if we have a lost soul. Our family originated in >Maine in 1600s. >What can you tell me? >Elaine C. Bacon

>Dear Elaine: A fellow researcher gave me information on Else Chadburn, widow of Samuel Shurburn. According to a fellow Whitney Researcher, Mary Landkamer [email protected] , "They lived at Newburg, Maine where Robinson died 22nd of July 1867." "married about 1812 - no record found." I hope Mary's e-mail address is still current - the record was last changed in May 1998.

Robinson Whitney was the son of Amos Whitney and Anna Weston of York, Maine, and a descendant of the immigrant John Whitney of Watertown, Mass.

This is all I have! Hope it helps.

-) Jeanne W. Muse

Genealogy - Games - Scuba-Diving http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwmuse [email protected]

From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:24:46 EDT Subject: [WHITNEY-L] searching To: [email protected]

Greetings,

New to the list and looking for information on my great grandfather. David Whitney, b. Westport, CT, 1814. He married Lucretia Lockwood.

Their 8 children were all born in Westport, CT. They were Julia, Henry, David, David, Sarah Jane, George, Harriet, and Arthur.

Thanks in advance.

Judy Drake, Phoenix, AZ

Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne Muse" <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:40:38 -0400 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Fw: Robinson Whitney & Else Chadburn To: [email protected]

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 1:04 PM Subject: Re: Robinson Whitney & Else Chadburn

>(I'll have to hook you up with my daughter. She kayaks (surf). And has a >game nite about every 4 months.) > >Okay, we have "Elcy Chadbourne, b 29 Nov 1777, d Newberg 1858, dau of Rev. >John Chadbourne and his wife Elizabeth Grant. She m 1) Samuel Sherborne and >had 3 children, m 2) Robertson Whitney and had 4 children." >(can you confirm which spelling is right? Robertson or Robinson? ) >They lived in Cornish, Prospect and Dixmont as well as Newberg. >Can you give me the births and marriages of the 4 children? >There is still time to get these additions onto our CD Rom of our book. So >let me know. >Is this someone in your line? If so, we can give you back to England 1500s. >or if I know where you live can tell you where to see our book (sold out). >I reallly appreciate this, pass it on to Mary if you want. >Elaine C. Bacon >San Jose, CA >

Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne Muse" <[email protected]>

Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:48:25 -0400 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Re: Robinson Whitney & Else Chadburn To: [email protected]

Dear Elaine: No, this is not part of my direct line. As I was trying to find my connection to a Whitney ancestor, I collected over 5,000 Whitney descendants. (It took me 8 years, but I finally found it!)

I have forwarded your reply to our Whitney Research Group (a Rootsweb mail-list). Let's hope someone can give you more info.

I only have birth dates for the children of Else/Elcy and Robinson/Robertson Whitney. No marriages. They were all born in Newburg, Maine:

Else Whitney b. 28 Sep 1813 John Chadbourn Whitney b. 26 Jun 1816 Amos Whitney b. 25 Jan 1819 Eliza Whitney b. 2 Jul 1823

-) Jeanne (Whitney) Muse

Genealogy - Games - Scuba-Diving http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwmuse [email protected]

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 1:04 PM Subject: Re: Robinson Whitney & Else Chadburn

>(I'll have to hook you up with my daughter. She kayaks (surf). And has a >game nite about every 4 months.) > >Okay, we have "Elcy Chadbourne, b 29 Nov 1777, d Newberg 1858, dau of Rev. >John Chadbourne and his wife Elizabeth Grant. She m 1) Samuel Sherborne and >had 3 children, m 2) Robertson Whitney and had 4 children." >(can you confirm which spelling is right? Robertson or Robinson? ) >They lived in Cornish, Prospect and Dixmont as well as Newberg. >Can you give me the births and marriages of the 4 children? >There is still time to get these additions onto our CD Rom of our book. So >let me know. >Is this someone in your line? If so, we can give you back to England 1500s. >or if I know where you live can tell you where to see our book (sold out). >I reallly appreciate this, pass it on to Mary if you want. >Elaine C. Bacon >San Jose, CA >

Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne Muse" <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:10:33 -0400 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Re: Whitney genealogy To: [email protected]

Dear Revea: Again, I urge you to join in our Whitney group. I have not researched the ancestry of John Whitney of Watertown personally, so I cannot give you any incite into the problem. I have sent a copy to the "group" in case any of them would like to jump in.

Good luck, and if you find any more information, ~please~ let us know.

-) Jeanne W. Muse

Genealogy - Games - Scuba-Diving http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwmuse [email protected]

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From: Revae <[email protected]> To: Jeanne Muse <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 11:37 AM Subject: Re: Whitney genealogy

>Good Morning Jeanne, >I checked out the website - believe I had previously visited Robert >Ward's page. There is certainly a great deal of data there, some of >which disproves the English ancestry of John Whitney. > >I subscribe to FTM genealogy library and there are many genealogies >which cite the English ancestry. Are these all incorrect? Here are just >4 I checked out from the many: > > "Bullard & Allied Families" by Edgar J. Bullard, pp. 258-9. > "Kin of Mellcene Thurman Smith" no author. This genealogy furnished the >names of the genealogists who furnished records for the book. There were >24. All wrong? > "Farnsworth Memorial II, Second Edition of Farnsworth Memorial" by >Moses F. Farnsworth. > "Genealogy of Merrick, Mirick, Myrick Family of MA" by George B. >Merrick. > >As some of these books were written early in the 1900s is it a guess >that the researchers did not question the English connection? Data on >Robert Ward's site and several of these genealogies which cite the >opposite view lead me to be in a quandry. I guess this line need LOTS of >work to come to a conclusion. > >My Mary Whitney's parentage ( who married John (Jesse) KNAPP >(KNOPP))still is not quite clear to me. I have been in communication >with some KNOPP researchers and hopefully I now have it cleared up. The >confusion apparently lies with the two Mary Whitneys, cousins. I >originally had her parents as Joseph Whitney and Mary Beach, now I guess >they were Samuel Whitney and Sarah BEMIS. I really have to sit down at a >quiet time and sort this all out. Believe I have erroneous data. > >The Nicholas Knapp cited in some genealogies is not related to William >Knopp (sometimes spelled Knapp). My line, and the one allied to >Whitneys, is connected to William. > >Children of John Knapp and Mary Whitney: > David b. 12 March 1716/17 > Martha 12 April 1719 > Bathsheba 12 Sept. 1721 d. 18 Jul. 1745 > Josiah 25 Oct. 1723 > Jesse 17 Feb. 1726, d. aft. 1782. Marr. 1760 Submit Cook. > Mary 18 July 1728 > Lydia 1729/30, d. 1802. Marr. 6 Jun. 1749 Moses Mason. > >I'd be interested in getting your feedback on the Whitneys. Guess I will >hold in abeyance any English ancestry. > >Revae > >Jeanne Muse wrote: >> >> Dear Revae: As far as I know, the English Ancestry of John Whitney of >> Watertown - HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN. I urge you to visit the following web site >> which is a culmination of about 80 people working together on Whitney >> surname research. >> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/index.html We welcome debate and >> discussion on this issue and others within our Whitney Research Group. So >> if you have something to add on the sources or other evidence to support >> your records on John's ancestry, please jump in! >> >> While you are at the above site, please check to see if we have the >> Whitney/Knapp correct. I know my personal database has only estimated info >> for all of the Mary and James' children. >> >> Thanks for writing! >> ;-) Jeanne W. Muse >> Genealogy - Games - Scuba-Diving >> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwmuse >> [email protected] >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Revae <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>

>> Date: Monday, May 17, 1999 9:24 PM >> Subject: Whitney genealogy >> >> >Hi, >> >Stumbled across your database on the Whitney family. My ancestor is also >> >John Whitney Jr. marr. to Ruth Reynolds. Descendancy is: Joseph Whitney >> >b. 1651 marr. Mary Beach (?); Mary Whitney b. 1694 marr. John (Jesse) >> >Knapp. >> > >> >I have the Whitney line back to ca 1110. Do you have this information? >> > >> >Revae >> >California >> > >

Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 21:52:32 -0400 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Re: Whitney genealogy To: [email protected]

At 06:10 PM 5/19/99 -0400, Jeanne Muse wrote: >Dear Revea: Again, I urge you to join in our Whitney group. I have not >researched the ancestry of John Whitney of Watertown personally, so I cannot >give you any incite into the problem. I have sent a copy to the "group" in >case any of them would like to jump in. > >Good luck, and if you find any more information, ~please~ let us know. > >;-) Jeanne W. Muse >Genealogy - Games - Scuba-Diving >http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwmuse >[email protected] > >-----Original Message----- >From: Revae <[email protected]> >To: Jeanne Muse <[email protected]> >Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 11:37 AM >Subject: Re: Whitney genealogy > > >>Good Morning Jeanne, >>I checked out the website - believe I had previously visited Robert >>Ward's page. There is certainly a great deal of data there, some of >>which disproves the English ancestry of John Whitney. >> >>I subscribe to FTM genealogy library and there are many genealogies >>which cite the English ancestry. Are these all incorrect? Here are just >>4 I checked out from the many: >> >> "Bullard & Allied Families" by Edgar J. Bullard, pp. 258-9. >> "Kin of Mellcene Thurman Smith" no author. This genealogy furnished the >>names of the genealogists who furnished records for the book. There were >>24. All wrong? >> "Farnsworth Memorial II, Second Edition of Farnsworth Memorial" by >>Moses F. Farnsworth. >> "Genealogy of Merrick, Mirick, Myrick Family of MA" by George B. >>Merrick.

Yes, all of the above are incorrect. They depended on earlier research by Frederick Clifton Pierce and Henry Melville, which has now been proven to be erroneous.

>>As some of these books were written early in the 1900s is it a guess >>that the researchers did not question the English connection? Data on >>Robert Ward's site and several of these genealogies which cite the >>opposite view lead me to be in a quandry. I guess this line need LOTS of >>work to come to a conclusion.

Early research is often shown to be faulty by more recent findings of documents and information not available to the researchers of the last century. We also now have much more stringent standards of proof than were adhered to then.

>>My Mary Whitney's parentage ( who married John (Jesse) KNAPP >>(KNOPP))still is not quite clear to me. I have been in communication >>with some KNOPP researchers and hopefully I now have it cleared up. The >>confusion apparently lies with the two Mary Whitneys, cousins. I >>originally had her parents as Joseph Whitney and Mary Beach, now I guess >>they were Samuel Whitney and Sarah BEMIS. I really have to sit down at a >>quiet time and sort this all out. Believe I have erroneous data.

See the following URL:

 <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/correct.html#Mary1711>

There you will find the proof that your Mary (WHITNEY) KNAPP was daughter of Joseph-3 and Mary (BEACH) WHITNEY, and the other Mary (WHITNEY) FISKE was daughter of Samuel-3 and Sarah (BEMIS) WHITNEY.

>>The Nicholas Knapp cited in some genealogies is not related to William >>Knopp (sometimes spelled Knapp). My line, and the one allied to >>Whitneys, is connected to William. >> >>Children of John Knapp and Mary Whitney: >> David b. 12 March 1716/17 >> Martha 12 April 1719 >> Bathsheba 12 Sept. 1721 d. 18 Jul. 1745 >> Josiah 25 Oct. 1723 >> Jesse 17 Feb. 1726, d. aft. 1782. Marr. 1760 Submit Cook. >> Mary 18 July 1728 >> Lydia 1729/30, d. 1802. Marr. 6 Jun. 1749 Moses Mason.

Thanks for this detail on the KNAPP children. Where were they born? Do you have more on the subsequent history of these children, and their children?

>>I'd be interested in getting your feedback on the Whitneys. Guess I will >>hold in abeyance any English ancestry. >> >>Revae

The English ancestry is not proven.

John-1 WHITNEY of Watertown *MAY* be the son of Thomas and Mary (BRAY) WHITNEY of Westminster. There is no proof, and the identification is based on similarity of names and dates only. There are counter-indications, too.

Thomas WHITNEY of Westminster *WAS TOO OLD* to be the same as Thomas, son of Robert WHITNEY and Elizabeth, daughter of Morgan ap Gwillims. His parentage is at present not known.

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/> 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne Muse" <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 07:24:04 -0400 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Gershom Whitney To: [email protected]

Hello! The file you downloaded is a Gedcom file, but it is zipped using WinZip. You'll need to use WinZip or other compression software to open up the archive. If you need it, go to http://www.winzip.com If you have WinZip, but still can't open the file, let me know.

I am not "in charge" of any of the official databases anymore, but I still have them here for reference. The Henry Whitney of Long Island and Ct. database does not contain Gershom. There are 3 Gershoms in my own personal Whitney database. One died as a baby -- the other 2 are:

Gershom Whitney, son of Joshua Whitney and Hannah Rockett(or Rockwood) - no birth date. Gershom married Sarah Wood.

Gershom S. Whitney, son of Rufus Whitney and Esther Skillings, born 1 Dec 1844 (possibly Gorham, Maine); died 11 May 1865, Post Hospital, Savannah, Georgia. No marriage information.

I wish I could be of more help. I've sent a copy of your note and this reply to the "Whitney Group", in case someone else has other men named Gershom in their information.

-) Jeanne W. Muse

Genealogy - Games - Scuba-Diving http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwmuse [email protected]

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>

To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, May 20, 1999 5:42 AM Subject: Whitney Genealogy

>Help! > >I was looking at Tim Doyle's web page and saw the database that you maintain. > I downloaded your database successfully, but for some reason, I am unable to >open it. > >Gershom Whitney & wife Bathsheba are my 4th Great Grandparents on my fathers >side. I do not have any information on who Gershom's parents were, so I am >not even sure if it is John Whitney's descendants that I should be pursuing. >However, many of my ancestors came out of Watertown, so I thought I should >check out "John Whitney of Watertown". > >Could you please check your information and if your "John Whitney" is an >ancestor of Gershom Whitney - would it be possible to e-mail me a GEDCOM file >of the information? Or perhaps you can suggest another way I could get a >copy of the files if these are indeed the files I am looking for. > >I would appreciate hearing from you on this matter - Thanks in advance for >any information you might be able to give me. > >[email protected] >

Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 21:49:17 -0400 From: Vickie Elam White <[email protected]> Sender: Vickie Elam White <[email protected]> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Eleanor WHITNEY & Isaac POWERS To: [email protected]

Friends,

I'm having trouble accessing my records. Could someone check their records for me?

I'm looking for info on Eleanor WHITNEY and her husband Isaac POWERS. Eleanor was b. 1740 in Dunstable NH to James and Eleanor (ROBBINS) WHITNEY. Eleanor and Isaac married in 1761 in Dunstable, and they were described as "both of Dunstable NH." They had one son, Charles, b. in Dunstable in 1762. They may have moved to Hollis NH.

I found the marriage of an Isaac POWERS to Abigail SANDERS in late 1763 in Hollis NH. Was this a second marriage for Isaac? Or was this a different man altogether? If Abigail died, does anyone know when and where? Does anyone know if Isaac and Abigail had any children together? Isaac supposedly died in 1766. Any proof of that?

Thanks.

Vickie Elam White 102657./[email protected]

From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 05:25:28 EDT Subject: [WHITNEY-L] More from Boston Journal To: [email protected]

Dear WRG:

Another rather nice obituary about another 19th C. Whitney, taken from the Boston Journal of July 28, 1887.

Mr. Benjamin Whitney died lately at the residence of his son-in-law, Mr. C. D. Tarvbell, at Littleton, NH, at the age of 85. Most of his life was spent in Marlboro, NH, where he held many offices, and was several times elected a Representative to the Legislature. In his earlier years he was a well known school teacher. Although a farmer by occupation he devoted much time to reading and study, and was a gentleman of superior intelligence.

Allan E. Green

From: [email protected] Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 07:59:42 EDT Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Re: Elizabeth Warren (which one?) and Daniel Harrington To: [email protected]

Dear WRG:

I have been continuing (in all this spare time I have between getting the house painted, packing my office, searching out moving companies, etc.) to play with my new CD that has the Savage Genealogical Dictionary of New England on it. I got around to the family of the Daniel Warren who married Elizabeth-3 Whitney (John-2, John-1). The Whitny13 database, and several of its predecessors, shows that the first child of this marriage was an Elizabeth Warren, born 16 Oct 1679, who is then shown to have married Daniel Harrington (Jr.), son of Daniel and Sarah-3 (John-2, John-1) Whitney Harrington.

However, Savage, in the GenDictNE, says that this Elizabeth Warren died at age 16, and thus could not have married Daniel Harrington (Jr.). Robert Ward has worked on this problem in his outstanding Six Generation study of the descent of John and Elinor, and indicates that the Elizabeth Warren who married Daniel Jr. is actually the daughter of Capt. John Warren and Michael Jenison, and was born 8 July 1673 in Watertown. His source is probably the same as I found in Savage, quoted here:

- - - - first insert ********

Genealogical Dictionary of New England

WARREN

JOHN, Watertown, s. of the preced. prob. the freem. of 1645, n. 11 July 1667, Michael, d. of Robert Jennison, wid. of Richard Bloise of the same, had Margaret, b. 6 May 1668; Sarah, 25 Jan. 1671; Eliz. 8 July 1673; Mary, 25 May 1675; John, 21 May 1678; Grace, 12 Mar. 1680; and Samuel, 23 Jan. 1683; was a capt. and .d 1703. His will of 12 Jan. of that yr. was pro. 22 Feb. foll. It names all the v\ch. exc. Sarah, wh perhaps d. young. Eliz. m. 18 Oct. 1705, Daniel Harrington, and Mary m. 30 Dec. 1698, Joseph Pierce.

- - - - end first insert *********
        
        second insert **********

Genealogical Dictionary of New England

DANIEL, Watertown, s. of the preced. freem. 1690, m. 19 Dec. 1678, Eliz. d. of John Whitney of the same, had Eliz. b. 16 Oct. 1679, d. at 16 yrs.; Ruth, 15 Oct. 1681; Mary, 25 Jan. 1684, d. young; Daniel, 30 Apr. 1686; Hannah, 25 Jan. 1691; Sarah, wh. was bapt. 14 Dec. 1701; Jonas, or possib. Josiah, 25 July 1695; Jonas, 30 Apr. 1697; Deliverance, 10 Oct. 1699; and Mary, bapt. 2 May 1703. He was oft. selectman, rep. 1701.

- - - - end second insert *********

Robert Ward may well also have further sources that support this assignment of the Elizabeth Warren that married Daniel Harrington Jr. as he indicates in his 6-Gen.

None of this will change the ultimate connection of the descendants of Elizabeth Warren to the Whitney family, just which of the two daughters of John-2 and Ruth Reynolds Whitney is the one from which the connection springs. It will also keep the Warren connection ultimately intact, I think, but I haven't followed that one down to the end. It will alter a maternal line.

I would be interested in hearing from anyone who is the descendant of this disputed marriage, to see if there is any other source that raises a doubt about the interpretation above.

Happy Hunting!

Allan E. Green

Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 01:34:00 -0400 From: Duncan Watney <[email protected]> Sender: Duncan Watney <[email protected]>

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Subject: [WHITNEY-L] WATNEY/WHITNEY connection in 17th Century To: [email protected]

Hi everyone,

I have just joined this list as a result of looking at the Whitney Family Genealogy Home page.

I was staggered to find that variants of the Whitney name are said to be Watney, Watnee, Whatney, Wotney, all of which are names I have been researching for some 7 years and this is the first time I have heard this.

Can anyone give me chapter and verse for this supposition please, and if possible any data that links these names with Whitney.

My Watney ancestors were in the Thames Valley and around Hayes Middlesex and Wimbledon Surrey in the 17th Century, and I cannot find the name before that so I will be absolutely delighted if anyone can help me trace the family back further.

Grateful thanks for any help.

Duncan.

Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:07:41 -0400 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Hamilton, Hamilton County, Texas To: [email protected]

Dear WRG,

I found the following: <http://gotexas.about.com/library/weekly/aa033199.htm?rf=dp&COB=home&TMog=152545769 14226&Mint=15254576914226>: "If you sometimes wish you could return to the quiet, friendly,

small-town life you remember, a trip to the Central Texas city of
Hamilton may be just what you're looking for. Think of it as
Bedford Falls with all the modern conveniences. It's the kind of
town that will make you think "what a great place to raise kids"
or wouldn't it be great to retire here". Even if you can't move in
right away, you can still spend a day browsing through the
shops in Hamilton's historic downtown square, or just catch a
game of dominoes on the courthouse lawn. Take in a movie at
the Texan Theater, stroll the ten block long Pecan Creek Park
through downtown or stay at one of the charming Inns after a
day of antique hunting or relaxing. Fairs, festivals, and other
events dot the calendar yearly, and the surrounding countryside
is as great for a scenic drive as it is for the dove hunting.
Founded in 1858 as the seat of Hamilton County, the city
faced frequent Indian raids. While on the courthouse lawn, be
sure to see the memorial to Anne Whitney, the heroic
schoolteacher killed while defending her students from an Indian
attack. The Hamilton County Museum is open weekly and the
city is home to an excellent genealogy center. Hamilton is
located 65 miles northwest of Waco and Killeen and 100 miles
southwest of Fort Worth on US Highway 281 and State
Highways 36 and 22."

Can anyone identify the above Anne Whitney, martyr of Hamilton, Texas?

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/>

12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

         by mail.physics.ox.ac.uk id JAA05867
      for <[email protected]>; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:02:07 +0100 (BST)

Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 9:02:06 +0100 From: "J.G. Whitney" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] CC: <img src="/robertward.gif">, [email protected], [email protected],

       [email protected]

Subject: RE: [WHITNEY-L] WATNEY/WHITNEY connection in 17th Century

Duncan,

You wrote: > I was staggered to find that variants of the Whitney name are said > to be Watney, Watnee, Whatney, Wotney .... > My Watney ancestors were in the Thames Valley and around Hayes > Middlesex and Wimbledon Surrey in the 17th Century ....

    I have been researching my Whitney ancestors in England since
    about 1990, and I have never come across any of the above as
    variations of WHITNEY in the UK.   I have always assumed that
    these variations originated in America.  I think it is highly
    unlikely that you will find a connection (other than by marriage
    of course!) between WATNEY, etc. and WHITNEY/WHITMEE/WITNEY, etc.

Regards

John Whitney Oxford, UK.

From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:42:47 EDT Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Nathan-4 Whitney of York and Biddeford, ME: also Ford/Whitney info To: [email protected]

Dear WRG:

In the Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire there is a reference to a Nathan Whitney in the family article about the Presbury (Preston, Presson) family. It states that William Presbury of Beverly (along with his brother, Stephen) was deeded property from his mother and his Aunt Sarah West in 1827, and a few lines later it says "In 1730 he sold the Saco property to Nathan Whitney of York."

Since Saco and Biddeford are so close, and since Nathan-4's children were born in Biddeford (according to Whitny13), I am wondering if someone has a confirmation of any kind that the Nathan-4 Whitney and the Nathan Whitney of York who bought this property could be one and the same. This is obviously NOT crucial to any line of descent, but indicative of a reason for movement from one place to another.

While searching the same source, I did find confirmation that the Sarah Ford who married Nathaniel-3 (Benjamin-2, John-1) Whitney, and the Lettice (Letty) Ford who married John-3 (ditto) Whitney were, in fact, sisters, both daughters of John Ford and Joanna Andrews (Searle) of Kittery, York, ME.

Happy Hunting!

Allan E. Green

Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:06:44 -0400 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] WATNEY/WHITNEY connection in 17th Century To: [email protected]

At 01:34 AM 5/23/99 -0400, Duncan Watney wrote: >Hi everyone, > >I have just joined this list as a result of looking at the Whitney Family >Genealogy Home page. > >I was staggered to find that variants of the Whitney name are said to be >Watney, Watnee, Whatney, Wotney, all of which are names I have been >researching for some 7 years and this is the first time I have heard this. > >Can anyone give me chapter and verse for this supposition please, and if >possible any data that links these names with Whitney.

The U.S. Census of 1790 lists Nathaniel WHATNEY as a head of household in Rutland Co., VT. This is the earliest mention of any of the above spellings in my records. There is no other mention of anyone by that name in the same time frame, so we believe that his surname probably was WHITNEY.

Other Nathaniel WHITNEY individuals living in 1790, and old enough to be head of a household: 1. Nathaniel-6 WHITNEY [Samuel-5, Nathaniel-4, Nathaniel-3, John-2, John-1]

  who lived in Marlboro, Windham Co., VT, and is listed in the same 1790
  Census in Windham Co., VT.

2. Nathaniel-4 WHITNEY [Nathaniel-3, Benjamin-2, John-1], who was living in

  Cumberland Co., ME, and is also listed in the 1790 Census of that place.

3. Nathaniel-5 WHITNEY, son of the preceding, whereabouts unknown. 4. Nathaniel-7 WHITNEY [Nathaniel-6, Nathaniel-5, Nathaniel-4, Nathaniel-3,

  John-2, John-1], married in 1780 in Grafton/Westborough, MA, whereabouts
  unknown.

5. Nathaniel Ruggles-6 WHITNEY [Simon-5, Daniel-4, Benjamin-3, John-2,

  John-1], living in Watertown, Middlesex Co., MA, and listed in the 1790
  Census of that place.

6. Nathaniel WHITNEY, listed in the 1790 Census of Cheshire Co., NH.

Nathaniel does not seem to be a name used in the Henry WHITNEY family until much later. It seems reasonable to identify #3 and #4 above with the individuals #6 and the Nathaniel WHATNEY mentioned above, in some order.

The U.S. Census of 1840 lists Anson WATNEY as a head of household in Bedford, Cuyahoga Co., OH.

This was Anson-6 WHITNEY [Josiah Anson-5, Richard-4, Henry-3, John-2, Henry-1] as described in S. Whitney Phoenix, _Whitney Family of Connecticut_.

>My Watney ancestors were in the Thames Valley and around Hayes Middlesex >and Wimbledon Surrey in the 17th Century, and I cannot find the name before >that so I will be absolutely delighted if anyone can help me trace the >family back further. > >Grateful thanks for any help.

Sorry I cannot help with your WATNEY family ancestry!

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/> 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:22:36 -0400 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Re: Elizabeth Warren (which one?) and Daniel

 Harrington

To: [email protected]

At 07:59 AM 5/22/99 EDT, [email protected] wrote: >Dear WRG: > >I have been continuing ... to >play with my new CD that has the Savage Genealogical Dictionary of New >England on it. I got around to the family of the Daniel Warren who married >Elizabeth-3 Whitney (John-2, John-1). The Whitny13 database, and several of >its predecessors, shows that the first child of this marriage was an >Elizabeth Warren, born 16 Oct 1679, who is then shown to have married Daniel >Harrington (Jr.), son of Daniel and Sarah-3 (John-2, John-1) Whitney >Harrington. > >However, Savage, in the GenDictNE, says that this Elizabeth Warren died at >age 16, and thus could not have married Daniel Harrington (Jr.). Robert Ward >has worked on this problem in his outstanding Six Generation study of the >descent of John and Elinor, and indicates that the Elizabeth Warren who >married Daniel Jr. is actually the daughter of Capt. John Warren and Michael >Jenison, and was born 8 July 1673 in Watertown. His source is probably the >same as I found in Savage, quoted here:

No, my source is Henry Bond's book on Watertown families. He says that Elizabeth, dau. of Daniel-3 and Elizabeth (WHITNEY) WARREN, died 4 Feb 1695/6. He also says that the will of John-2 WARREN dated 12 Jan 1702/3, mentions daughter Elizabeth WARREN, then unmarried, as well as wife Michal (not Michael!), among others.

>******* first insert ******** > >Genealogical Dictionary of New England > >WARREN > >JOHN, Watertown, s. of the preced. prob. the freem. of 1645, n. 11 July 1667, >Michael, d. of Robert Jennison, wid. of Richard Bloise of the same, had >Margaret, b. 6 May 1668; Sarah, 25 Jan. 1671; Eliz. 8 July 1673; Mary, 25 May >1675; John, 21 May 1678; Grace, 12 Mar. 1680; and Samuel, 23 Jan. 1683; was a >capt. and .d 1703. His will of 12 Jan. of that yr. was pro. 22 Feb. foll. >It names all the v\ch. exc. Sarah, wh perhaps d. young. Eliz. >m. 18 Oct. 1705, Daniel Harrington, and Mary m. 30 Dec. 1698, Joseph >Pierce. > >******** end first insert ********* >******** second insert ********** > >Genealogical Dictionary of New England > >DANIEL, Watertown, s. of the preced. freem. 1690, m. 19 Dec. 1678, Eliz. d. >of John Whitney of the same, had Eliz. b. 16 Oct. 1679, d. at 16 yrs.; Ruth, >15 Oct. 1681; Mary, 25 Jan. 1684, d. young; Daniel, 30 Apr. 1686; Hannah, 25 >Jan. 1691; Sarah, wh. was bapt. 14 Dec. 1701; Jonas, or possib. Josiah, 25 >July 1695; Jonas, 30 Apr. 1697; Deliverance, 10 Oct. 1699; and Mary, bapt. 2 >May 1703. He was oft. selectman, rep. 1701. > >******** end second insert ********* > >Robert Ward may well also have further sources that support this assignment >of the Elizabeth Warren that married Daniel Harrington Jr. as he indicates in >his 6-Gen.

See above.

The database should be changed.

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/> 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:57:52 -0400 From: Michael Roman <[email protected]> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Re: WHITNEY-D Digest V99 #126 To: [email protected]

>Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:06:44 -0400 >From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif">

> >Other Nathaniel WHITNEY individuals living in 1790, and old enough to be >head of a household: >1. Nathaniel-6 WHITNEY [Samuel-5, Nathaniel-4, Nathaniel-3, John-2, John-1] > who lived in Marlboro, Windham Co., VT, and is listed in the same 1790 > Census in Windham Co., VT. >2. Nathaniel-4 WHITNEY [Nathaniel-3, Benjamin-2, John-1], who was living in > Cumberland Co., ME, and is also listed in the 1790 Census of that place. >3. Nathaniel-5 WHITNEY, son of the preceding, whereabouts unknown. >4. Nathaniel-7 WHITNEY [Nathaniel-6, Nathaniel-5, Nathaniel-4, Nathaniel-3, > John-2, John-1], married in 1780 in Grafton/Westborough, MA, whereabouts > unknown.

This is the brother to my ancestor Abigail (Whitney) Bruce who moved to SE Vermont upon her marriage in 1781. I haven't looked into her brother Nathaniel's whereabouts as much as I would like to, but I thought I had heard he moved to SE VT also in (or by) the 1780's.

Michael

Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:00:11 -0700 From: Paul & Brenda Nichols <[email protected]> Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Whitneys Androscoggin, Me To: [email protected]

Hi.

 Here are a group of Whitney's from the Maine usgenweb archives of::

Early Families of Sabattus, Androscoggin Co, Maine: formerly part of Greene, Lewiston, Lisbon, Bowdoin & West Bowdionham

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WHITNEY Abraham - Born 1752, d 30 Sep 1831 ae 79y s/o ?? Abraham Whitney m Apphia Coombs b ??, d 26 Oct 1833 ae 73y. He was a farmer & revolutionary soldier. [HILLSIDE CEM Lisbon, ME] He was listed of living on the Little River Plt (Lisbon), ME, in 1790, the count was 1-3-3. Children: Abram m Ann Conant; Peter b 5 June 1781 m _____ Hinkley; Benjamin b 30 Nov 1782/or 29 Nov 1776 m Bethiah Woodward; Mercy b 15 Jul 1784 m John Godfrey; Mehitable b 7 Mar 1788, m Jesse Allen, they had a son: Thomas Allen b 18; Thankful b 18 June 1786; Isaac b 17 Feb 1790, drowned ae 20y; Sarah b 22 Feb 1792, d 20 Feb 1845,

m 1 Jan 1812, William Woodard; Thomas b 23 Jan 1794; Apphia b 21 Dec 1795, d ae 18y ; Abraham Jr b 4 Jul 1798; John b 26 Feb 1800; Joseph Stockbridge b 27 Dec 1802 m Betsey Philbrook. [VR Lisbon, ME][see p 118 Whitney Genealogy by Frederick C Pierce, 1895] [235-254 Census 1860 Lisbon, Me]

Abraham Whitney of Plantation of Little River, Lincoln Co bought land in Bowdoin from Thomas TEBBETS of Bowdoin Lincoln Co in 1797

[Lincoln Co Deed 40-76

Abraham Whitney of Little River a millwright sold to Jacob Whitney of Little River a brick layer a tract of land in Little River abutting a road from

Thomas Godfrey's .... in 1796 [Lincoln Co Deeds 36-225]

Abraham Whitney of a place called Little River in Lincoln Co sold to Thomas GODFREY of Little River, a housewright, the right & priviledge on the Falls Commonly known by the name of the Ten Mile Falls on the "Ammascoggin River" with one half acre of land adjoining..... 1793 recored 1796 [Lincoln Co Deed 36-228]

Abraham Whitney of Little River, Lincoln Co sold to Jabez B FLETCHER of Little River one half of the priviledge where the new mill now stands (1798) built this present season on the Island on Androscoggin at said Little River together with the NE half of Sawmill & one half of Island below the dam.

[Lincoln Deed 43-42]

Abraham Whitney of Little River, Lincoln CO, sold to James Blethen of Durham, Cumberland Co & John Blethen of Plt called Little River, Lincoln Co, one forth part of Saw mill now standing on 10 mile Falls in said plt being the stream side of the first double saw mill on said falls .... in 1796 ... records 1797 [Deed 36-227]

Abraham Whitney of Little River Lincoln CO sold to Solomon Tracy, Nathaniel Gatchel, & Samuel Tracy all of Durham full 3/16 of a saw mile first double sawmill now standing on the 10 mile falls (1796) [Deed 36-288 Lincoln Co]

Abraham Whitney of Little River bought of Elihu Purrington of a place called Little River in Lincoln Co land in Little River ....abutters were Plymouth Line; Alexander Sutherland.... in 1798 [Deed 41-132 Lincoln CO]

Abraham Whitney of a place called Little River Lincoln Co sold to Nathan

Whitney of Little River land in Little River abutters: Thomas Godfrey; Jacob Whitney; & the Plymouth line ... in 1798 recorded 1799 [Lincoln Co Deed 43-

182]

WHITNEY Abraham Jr - Born ??, d ?? at Lisbon, ME, s/o Abraham Whitney Sr. Children: ________ m Emery S Warren Esq. of Durham, ME. *[p 109 Atlas 1873]

WHITNEY Abraham III - Born ??, d ?? s/o ?? Abraham Whitney III m int 7 Feb 1818, Judith Francis.

WHITNEY Abraham III - Born ??, d ?? s/o ?? Abraham Whitney III m 14 May 1820, Ann Conant of Topsham, ME. Children: Rachel b 14 Oct 1820; Mehitable b 1 Apr 1822; William Woodard b 14 Mar 1825; Apphia Ann b 20 Jul 1827; Louisa Augusta b 9 Feb 1831. [VR 1-119 Lisbon, ME]

WHITNEY Albion K P - Born ??, d ?? s/o ?? Albion K P Whitney m 24 Oct 1847, Malinda Mountford of Lisbon, ME. [VR] Children: Everett b 19 June 1849. [VR 6-280 Lisbon, ME]

WHITNEY Asa - Born 1806 at Jay, ME, d ??, s/o Jonathan & Lucy (Parks) Whitney. Asa Whitney m 15 Nov 1825, Rhoda Blasidell b 15 Dec 1806. Children: Mary Elizabeth b 22 Apr 1827, m Asa Stone; Frank ; Cooliege; Samuel; Jedidiah.

WHITNEY Augustus - res Sabattus ME, occ' mill operative 1891.

WHITNEY Benjamin - Born 22 May 1725 {Lisbon, ME VR 1-102 states born 2 June 1727} at York, ME, d 1799, or d 8 Nov 1796 ae 70y, [Hillside Cem, Lisbon,ME] owned farm later owned by Bibber heirs and a portion of the Hewey farm. He had moved to Lisbon, ME, from New Meadows (Brunswick, ME). He was counted 3-1-6 in the 1790 Census of Little River Plt (Lisbon), ME. Benjamin m {25 Jul 1752} Nancy/Mercey/Murcy Hinkley b 23 Oct 1734 at Brunswick, ME, d 13 Nov 1814 ae 81. [Hillside Cem, Lisbon,ME] He was part owner & miller of the gristmill on the Little River. Children: Abramham b 1752, m Aphia Coombs; Isaac settled in Little River Plt; Jacob b 11 June 1763 at Lisbon, ME, d May 1846 at Phillips, ME, m 11 Jul 1787, Hannah Mills b 17 Jul 1760; Nathan m(1) Sarah Godrey, m(2) Fanny Shephard; Benjamin settled in Bowdoin, ME; Joseph settled in Phillips, ME; Samuel b 1774, m Lydia Curtis; Sarah; Rebecca; Rachel; Thankful b 1777, d 1851 m Zebulon Courson*; Isabel. [Atlas 1873, Lisbon, ME][see p 61 & 62

Whitney Genealogy by Frederick C Pierce, 1895] *[Bryent's notes on Webster, ME, AHS]

WHITNEY Benjamin Jr - Born ??, d ?? s/o ?? Benjamin Whitney Jr of Little River Plt (Lisbon Falls) m int 12 Nov 1795, Mary/Polly Varnum of Bowdoin ME (was she b 1768? at Topsham ME? & d Sept 1849/50, see 1850 Census of Webster ME). Children: Ralph b 24 Dec 1797; Abigail b 6 May 1810; Peggy b 9 Feb 1804; Mary b 6 Dec 1805; Diana b 26 Jan 1807; Stover b 13 Jan 1809; Samuel b 21 Mar 1801. [VR Bowdoin, ME] [printed VR Bowdoin ME]

WHITNEY Benjamin (Esq) - Born 29 Nov 1776, d 17/14/15** Nov 1853 ae 72y,[His death notice stated that he died 16th inst (16 Nov 1853) at Lisbon ME ae 71y] s/o Abraham & Aphia _____. Benjamin Whitney m Bethiah Woodward b 17 May 1787, at Lisbon, ME, d 3 Nov 1864 ae 77y 5m 16d [HILLSIDE CEM, Lisbon, ME][see p 226 Whitney Genealogy by Frederick C Pierce, 1895] Children: Jane Woodard b 25 Oct 1806; Priscilla Woodbury b 22 Dec 1810 m Niah Gould*; Melvin Stow b 9 Oct 1812; Peleg Tolman* b 21 Nov 1814; Joseph Davis b 9 Mar 1816; Blancy Woodard b 22 Jan 1818; Hezekiah Whittemore b 22 Jan 1820; Stephen Goold b 2 Feb 1822, d 11 Sep 1838 ae 16y; Caroline Godfrey b 9 Aug 1824, d 2 Oct 1833 ae 8y; Octavia T b 9 Feb 1827 m Albert C Neal Esq*; Charles d 21 Apr 1832 ae 8m. [VR Lisbon, ME] *[p 109 Atlas 1873][Hillside Cem, Lisbon, ME] **[Garcelon's notes on Lewiston South Parish MHS][BW death notice in Brunswick Telegraph 26 Nov 1853]*[Peleg Whitney of Orono, Penobscot Co, ME was the principal & Nathaniel Wilson & Levi Dennett served as sureties also of Orono, see Lincoln Co Probate 63-338 the estate of Benjamin Whitney dated 3 Nov 1856]

WHITNEY David - Born ?? d ?? s/o ?? David Whitney of Bowdoin ME m int 29 Sep 1831, Harriet Wilson of Lisbon ME. [printed VR Bowdoin ME]

WHITNEY David - Born ?? d ?? s/o ?? David Whitney of Bowdoin ME m int 16 May 1835 d/o Joseph & Susan (Reed) Trufant of Lisbon ME [printed VR Bowdoin ME]

WHITNEY David - Born 1808, d ?? s/o ?? David Whitney m Mary Edgecomb b 1807 of Bowdoinham ME. Children: Susan T b 20 June 1837; Lydia b 27 Sep 1838 at Webster ME, d 31 Mar 1919 ae 81y 6m at Bowdoin ME, m _______ Johnson; Harriet b 7 May 1842; William H b 18 Nov 1844. [VR Webster, ME][285-307 Census 1860 Lisbon, ME][VR Bowdoin ME]

WHITNEY Edward H - Born 29 Oct 1846, d 22 May 1850 s/o ?? Edward Whitney m Mary ________ d Apr 1813 ae 35y. [Lisbon Center Cem, Lisbon, ME]

WHITNEY Ebenezer - Born ??, d ?? s/o ?? Ebenezer Whitnet m 18 Oct 1833, Sarah Small of Bowdoinham, ME [VR 232 Lisbon, ME]

WHITNEY Eleazer - Born 1785, d ?? s/o ?? Eleazer Whitney m? or his dau:

Abigail b 1809 in MA. [222-242 Census 1860 Lisbon, Me]

WHITNEY Elizabeth - Born ?? at Biddeford, ME, d 15 Jan 1916 at Lisbon, ME. [VR Lisbon, ME]

WHITNEY Frank R - Born 1854, d 1912 s/o ?? Frank Whitney m Annie A Stevens b 2 Sep 1846 at Smithfield, ME, d 12 Mar 1932 ae 85y 6m 10d, d/o Benjamin & Mercy (Haines) Stevens. She lived 60y in Lisbon, ME, late of Waterville, ME. He was a freemason. [Hillside Cem, Lisbon, ME]

WHITNEY Herbert Allen - Born ?? d 1918 bro/o Mrs Olis White of Lisbon? Herbert Allen Whitney died at the veteran's Home in Napa, CA. He was a soldier of the Spanish War. His wife died thirty year before him and was the sister of the late Dr Edwin Meader, the dentist. He was also the brother to Mrs Charles E Bailey of Freeport & Susie B Whitney of Boston. [Obit issue 20 Sep 1918

Lisbon ENterprise]

WHITNEY Humphrey - Born ?? of Lisbon, ME s/o ?? Humphrey Whitney m int 15 Sep 1822, Almira Dyer of Lewiston, ME.

WHITNEY Increase G - Born 25 Nov 1831, d 26 Dec 1922 at Lisbon, ME, occ' carpenter s/o Jacob & Mary (Gould) Whitney. Increase Whitney of Lisbon ME m 30 Nov 1856 at Webster ME by Jesse Davis Esq, Ellen Maria Larrabee of Webster ME b 27 Aug 1836, d 28 Jan 1890, He m(2) 1892, Elizabeth Youland b 1832 d/o Ivory & Ester (Thompson) Emmons of Lyman/Kennebunkport ME. [VR Lisbon, ME][Davis Cem, Lisbon, ME][146 Census 1860 Webster, ME][Bowdoin ME VR printed][Sabattus ME VR][LFJ 13 Dec 1856]

WHITNEY Isaac - Born 1756, d 29 Jan 1850 ae 93y 8m, s/o Benjamin & _____ (Hinkley) Whitney. Isaac Whitney of Little River Plt m 22 May 1783, Sarah Truant of Potterstown b ?? d 11 Jul 1846 ae 81y d/o Job & Cheloa (

 ) Trufant of Bowdoin ME.  They lived at the foot of Rowe's Hill,

Lisbon, ME. [HILLSIDE CEM, Lisbon, ME] The 1790 Census of Bowdoin/ Lisbon counted 1-1-5. Children: Sarah b 2 Oct 1783; Rebecca b 10 Feb 1785; Charloe/Elizabeth b 22 Oct 1786; Jonathan b 10 June 1788; Mary/Anna b 25 Mar 1790; Abraham b 2 Apr 1792; Elizabeth Tilson b 14 Feb 1794; James Trufant b 20 Jan 1796; Ann Gowel b 20 Nov 1797; Joseph b 28 June 1800; Mercy Sutherland b 28 Aug 1802; Stephen b 14 Sep 1805; Nathan b 17 Apr 1807; Abigail Potter b 28 Dec 1811. [VR Lisbon, ME][Atlas 1873] [235-254 Census 1860 Lisbon, Me] [Lincoln County Pen papers][Bowdoin ME VR printed]

WHITNEY Isaac - Born ?? at Lisbon ME, d ??, s/o ?? Isaac Whitney m Judah Frances of Weld ME. Children: J F b ?? at Lisbon ME, d 29 Nov 1895 ae 74y 8m at East Livermore ME. [VR Brunswick ME page 38][VR E Livermore ME] WHITNEY Jacob - Born 11 June 1763, d 1846 at Phillips, ME. 1790 Census of Little River Plt (Lisbon) ME, counted 1-1-1. [see p 118 Whitney Genealogy by F C Pierce] "settled in 1805 at Strong from Lisbon ME" [L Peary's Records of Strong ME]

WHITNEY Jacob - Born 14 Oct 1804, d 9 Sep 1889 s/o Samuel & Lydia (Curtis) Whitney. Jacob Whitney m(1) 18 Jul 1830, Mary Gould b 24 Aug 1806, d 19 Jul 1837, m(2) 19 Sep 1838, Christianna Jordan b 21 Nov 1808, d 29 Apr 1888. [Lisbon Center Cem] Children: Increase Gould b 25 Nov 1831; Mary Jane b 29 Mar 1834, m likely 17 June 1854, Thomas Crowley of Lewiston, ME; Martha McLellan b 20 Sep 1839; Washington Dain b 29 Dec 1842; Christiana Ann b 20 Mar 1848. [VR Lisbon, ME][88-92 Census 1860 Lisbon, ME][ACM][see p 228 Whitney Gen by Pierce 1895]

WHITNEY Jeremiah settled in 1786 Greene Me

WHITNEY John Godfrey b 3 Mar 1798 at Lisbon, ME, d 2 Jul 1883 at Readfield, ME, s/o Nathan & Sarah (Godfrey) Whitney. [see p 226 Whitney Genealogy by Frederick C Pierce, 1895]

WHITNEY John - Born 1 June 1808, d 2 Oct 1887 s/o ?? John Whitney m 9 APr 1844, Elmira Turner b 1 Feb 1818, d 22 Nov 1902. [Lisbon Center Cem, Lisbon, ME][VR 249 Lisbon]

WHITNEY John - Born ??, d ?? s/o ?? John Whitney m Mary _____. Children: John C b 16 Mar 1845; Edward H b 29 Oct 1846. [VR Lisbon, ME]

WHITNEY John - Born ?? at Lisbon ME d ?? s/o ?? John Whitney m Martha Hacker b ?? at Brunswick ME. Children: Elsie E b 29 Jul 1867 at Brunswick ME d 1 Jul 1920 at Livermore Fall ME ae 52-11-2 [Livermore Fall ME VR p 62]

WHITNEY Jonathan Jr - Born ??, d ?? s/o ?? Jonathan Whitney m Deborah _____. The 1790 Census of Bowdoin/Lisbon counted 1-0-0. Children: Susannah b 28 Nov 1792; Amos b 28 Feb 1794; Mitte b 9 May 1796; Betsy b 13 June 1793; Umphrey b 20 June 1800; Thomas b 15 Apr 1802; Sewel b 10 Jul 1806; Bethiah b 2 Jul

1804; David b 13 Mar 1809; Uriah b 18 Apr 1813. [VR Lisbon, ME]

WHITNEY Joseph - Born ?? at Phillips, ME, d ??, s/o ??. Joseph Whitney m Jane Bolan. Children: Columbus b ?? at Phillips, ME, d 10 Aug 1908 at Lisbon, ME. [VR Lisbon, ME] WHITNEY Joseph David - Born 9 Mar 1816, d ?? s/o ?? Joseph Whitney m(1) Loranda/Zorada Harwood d 21 Sep 184_. Children: Bethiah Ainstruth b 28/23 Sep 1844/5 at Lisbon ME. Children by 2nd, Ann S ______d 8 Apr 1852 ae 22y: Clara E b 19 Mar 1851. [VR Lisbon, ME][Hillside Cem, Lisbon, ME][281-302 Census 1860 Lisbon, ME] [letter from Barbara B Safford of Flat Rock NC dated 22 Mar 1991 to Lisbon TC]

WHITNEY Joseph S - Born ??, d ?? s/o ?? Joseph Whitney m Betsey ________. Children: Martha Ann b 14 Oct 1830. [VR Lisbon, ME]

WHITNEY Lemuel L - Born 6 Feb 1774, d ?? s/o ?? Lemuel Whitney m 24 Dec 1801, Lydia ______ b 30 Jan 1776. Children: Eliza b 25 Sep 1802; Jacob b 14 Oct 1804; John b 1 June 1808; Isabel b 4 Jul 1811; Mercy b 11 Dec 1814; Lydia b 26 June 1817; Samuel Lumber b 29 Nov 1820. [VR 1-102 Lisbon, ME]

WHITNEY Lewis - Born ??, d ?? s/o ?? Lewis Whitney m Cynthia R _____d 4 June 1852 ae 28y. [Lisbon Center Cem, Lisbon, ME]

WHITNEY Lydia - Born 22 Apr 1792 at Charlestown, MA, d 17 Sep 1869 at Lewiston, ME. [Pleasant Hill Cem, Sabattus, ME]

WHITNEY Martin V B - Born ??, d ae 90y s/o ?? Martin Whitney m Catherine Pooler, b 1831, d 1906 ae 77y at Sabattus ME. [g.s. Lane Rd, Greene, ME][see p 100 History of Greene ME by W L Mower 1938]

WHITNEY Nathan - Born ??, d Sep 1849 s/o Benjamin Whitney. Nathan Whitney m Sarah Godfrey d 21 Mar 1827, m(2) Fanny Shepard. They lived in Lisbon, ME where Addison Metcalf later lived. Nathan later moved to Gardiner, ME. Children: Abiezer H b 29 Mar 1794; Rebecca S b 1801 m Robert Gould; Bethsheba b 1800; John G b 3 Mar 1798 m Mary Allen; Otis ; Elias S b 1809 m Sarah Godfrey; Thankful m _______ Kimball; Hannah m ______ Folsom; Calvin; Selinda m _____ Bragdon; Nathan; Sarah ; Ruel. [p 119 Whitney Genealogy by F C Pierce] [1873 Atlas]

WHITNEY Peter - Born ??, d ?? s/o ?? Peter Whitney m Lydia (Hinckley).

Children: Bethiah b 25 Mar 1804; Rachell b 18 Feb 1806; Ebenezer F b 13 May 1808; Peace T b 12 Mar 1810; Isaac b 4 Sep 1812; Apphia b 25 Jul 1818. [VR Lisbon, ME]

WHITNEY Reuben - Born 1831, d 1892 s/o ?? Reuben Whitney m(1) Mary E Allen b 1833, d 1870, m(2) Missa E Cox b 1849, d 1913. Children: Susie A b 1862, d 1877. [Hillside Cem, Lisbon, ME] WHITNEY Samuel - Born ??, d 9 Oct 1816 ae 7_y 8m s/o ?? Samuel Whitney m Cylles _____ d 6 Dec 1848 72y 11m. [Lisbon Center Cem, Lisbon, ME]

WHITNEY Samuel - Born ??, d ??, s/o Benjamin & _____(Hinkley) Whitney. Samuel m Lydia Curtis. she took wool on horseback to Mayall's mill of Lisbon in 1809. Children: Eliza; Jacob b 1804 ; John b 1808, proprietor of Lisbon hotel; Isabel; Mercy; Lydia; Samuel moved to Wisconsin. [p 119 Whitney Genealogy by F C Pierce][1873 Atlas]

WHITNEY Samuel - Born ??, d ?? s/o ?? Samuel Whitney m 6 Jan 1846, Sarah Clark of Lewiston, ME. Children: Harriet b 6 Apr 1847; Samuel b 25 Mar 1848. [VR Lisbon, ME]

WHITNEY Samuel - Born ??, d ?? s/o ?? Samuel Whitney m ______ Merriman. Children: Jane M b ?? at Bowdoin, ME, d 22 Feb 1919 ae 76y 2m 20d at Lewiston, ME. [VR Lisbon, ME]

WHITNEY Samuel - Born 1837, d 7 Feb 1890 at Auburn, ME, s/o Asa & Rhoda (Blasidell) Whitney. Samuel Whitney m Minirva S Gallison. Children: Frank b 1868, d 1938; Mable b 1866, d 1890, m Clinton Sampson.

WHITNEY Sarah A - born 1831, d 1865. Children: Alice b 1854, d 1936, m ________ Ingersoll. [Pleasant Hill Cem, Sabattus, ME]

WHITNEY Thomas - Born ??, d ?? s/o ?? Thomas Whitney m int 31 Oct 1824, Susan Cowing of LIsbon, ME [VR Lisbon, ME]

WHITNEY Uriah - Born ?? d ?? s/o ?? Uriah Whitney m 30 Jul 1871, Martha ______ b 12 May 1838 at West Bowdoin, ME, d 1915 at Stayton, Oregon. She was married before this marriage and had a daughter (Lucy m _______Mortimer). Children: ______; _____; ______; _______ m Frank Sihavy of Stayton. [Obit of Martha Whitney 3 Sep 1915 Lisbon Enterprise]

WHITNEY Wallace E - Born ?? at St Albans, ME, d at the house of his brother in law, Fred G Coombs, ae 51y s/o ?? Wallace E Whitney m 1893, Mary Rand of Lisbon, ME. He built the grist mill with Jordan Rand Jr in Lisbon Village. He left behind a step mother, Mrs Thomas Whitney of Lewiston, ME. He was a member of the Eureka Lodge of K of P & the Pine Tree Grange. [Obit 16 May 1913 L Enterprise]

WHITNEY Washington - Born ??, d ?? s/o ?? Washington Whitney m Mary E C _______. Children: Iola Inez b 18 Mar 1863. [VR Lisbon, ME]

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              Genealogy site is a hit — 7 million times a day

              By Steve Fidel
              Deseret News staff writer

                    The LDS Church plans to officially launch the

world's largest genealogy Web site Monday

              morning during a press conference in its Family

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              largest collection of genealogical records.
                    The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day

Saints announced a public test of the site

              http://www.FamilySearch.org in April as it prepared

for the formal launch. Genealogy is one

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                    About two weeks into the church's

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From: "RICHARD E CHILDS" <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 15:26:00 -0700 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Whitney research To: [email protected]

I am tracing my stepdads Whitney line and this is my first time on this website... Looking for James Emmett Whitney b. 1848 Plano, ILL...Married in Sandwick, ILL....His father was James Emil Whitney don't know from where. James had eight children:Inez 1875, Jasmine 1876, Grace 1878, Ira 1880, Iris 1885, Acaph 1891, Claude Leslie 1893, and Raymond 1895. Not sure if any or all were born in ILL. Does any of this look familiar to you, if so, please contact me at :[email protected]

From: "DeeGee Whitney" <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Egbert & Matilda, NE & NY Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:58:04 -0700 To: [email protected]

Hello...

I've just joined this list, and am currently trying to find any information on my Great Grandparents, Egbert & Matilda Whitney, from New York.

On the 1880 & 1885 Richardson County, Humboldt City, NE Census the family was listed as:

   Egbert            age 39 (born in New York)
   Matilda          age 36 (born in New York)
   George Roe   age 12 (my grandfather) b. 1873 d. 1928
   Clyde             age 6
   Earl or Ervin   age 4
   Eva or Evelyn age 2 1/2

There is also a brother, Ray mentioned in George's obituary.

All of the children were born in Nebraska. Egbert was a carpenter.

George married Myrtle Emma Price in Lincoln Nebraska in the early 1900's, and they had two children, my father, George Roe Jr (b.1911 d. 1966) and Marjorie (b. 1908 d. 1942 in Havana, Cuba).

This is as all the information I've been able to get on my father's side of the family. He never spoke of aunts and uncles, except for those on his mother's side, although it appears he had one aunt and three uncles on his father's side.

Any information anyone might have would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

DeeGee Whitney

From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 07:57:12 EDT Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Egbert & Matilda, NE & NY To: [email protected]

Dear DeeGee:

Egbert doesn't seem to turn up in any of the three main Whitney databases.

There are about 970 Whitney names in the 1850 Census Index for New York. Two of them are Egbert. One of them (just Egbert) lives in Watertown in Jeffereson County and the other (Egbert T.) lives in Shandaken in Ulster County.

Perhaps a look at the census for those two places might turn up an Egbert aged nine.

Happy Hunting

Allan E. Green

From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:26:45 EDT Subject: [WHITNEY-L] More bits from the Boston Journal To: [email protected]

Dear WRG:

Items from the Boston Journal of July 10, 1884.

CRIMES AND CASULTIES

              A Tragic Affair

Austin, IL, July 8. This afternoon Henry Summers and May Whitney, young people who have been keeping company, were found lying on the sidewalk with bullet holes in their heads. The girl has remianed unconscious ever since they were found. Summers says the girl shot him and then herself. The pistol with which the shooting was done is Summer's, and there are suspicions that he committed the deed, which is supposed to have been the result of a lovers' quarrel. Summers may recover.

Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 08:27:28 -0800 From: Bud Reel <[email protected]> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Whitney To: [email protected]

I have been a subscriber to the Whitney group for 2 or 3 months now and I sure need some help. My GGrandfather John F. Whitney was believed to be born in Maine in 1834 Location unknown. Wife Unknown. He had two sons( twins ) My Grandfather Cyrus C. Whitney, born 10 aug. 1861, Vermont, location unknown, Brother unknown. The brick layer on this job was a good one. I cannot Find any trace of these two. Please help if you can.Thank you. Lenard Reel

From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 17:24:46 EDT Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Jeremiah Whitney To: [email protected]

In a message dated 5/25/99 2:11:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:

<<

  Here are a group of Whitney's from the Maine usgenweb archives of::

Early Families of Sabattus, Androscoggin Co, Maine: formerly part of
Greene, Lewiston, Lisbon, Bowdoin & West Bowdionham

WHITNEY Jeremiah settled in 1786 Greene Me>>

Does anyone have anything on this Jeremiah Whitney? Is he the father of William E. Whitney, born about 1811, in Rochester, NY, who married Mary Scott of Niagara County, NY?

Thanks, [email protected]

Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:06:19 -0400 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif">

Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Whitney research To: [email protected]

At 03:26 PM 5/24/99 -0700, RICHARD E CHILDS wrote: >I am tracing my stepdads Whitney line and this is my first time on this >website... Looking for James Emmett Whitney b. 1848 Plano, ILL...Married in >Sandwick, ILL....His father was James Emil Whitney don't know from where. >James had eight children:Inez 1875, Jasmine 1876, Grace 1878, Ira 1880, >Iris 1885, Acaph 1891, Claude Leslie 1893, and Raymond 1895. Not sure if >any or all were born in ILL. Does any of this look familiar to you, if so, >please contact me at :[email protected]

Richard and the WRG:

This was James E.-8 WHITNEY, b. 13 Aug 1848, son of James M.-7 and Mary E. (HUNTLEY) WHITNEY [Asaph-6, Jonathan-5, Benjamin-4, Benjamin-3, Benjamin-2, John-1]. He and his family are listed on p. 591 of Frederick Clifton Pierce, _The Descendants of John Whitney_ (1895).

For James E.-8, see <http://www.gentree.com/whitney/pierce/p591-595.htm>. For James M.-7, see <http://www.gentree.com/whitney/pierce/p416-420.htm>. For Asaph-6, see <http://www.gentree.com/whitney/pierce/p236-240.htm> (but

  this is NOT YET AVAILABLE).

For Jonathan-5 see <http://www.gentree.com/whitney/pierce/p121-125.htm> and

  <http://www.gentree.com/whitney/pierce/p126-130.htm>.

For Benjamin-4 see <http://www.gentree.com/whitney/pierce/p61-65.htm>. For Benjamin-3 see <http://www.gentree.com/whitney/pierce/p036-040.htm>. For Benjamin-2 see <http://www.gentree.com/whitney/pierce/p26-30.htm>. For John-1 see <http://www.gentree.com/whitney/pierce/p016-020.htm> and

  <http://www.gentree.com/whitney/pierce/p021-025.htm>.

The first five generations can be accessed online at: <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/john/john70.html#i28>.

Welcome, cousin!

Regards,

Robert

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Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne Muse" <[email protected]>

Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:47:38 -0400 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Whitney / Reed To: [email protected]

This query was posted in the Worcester County, Mass. queries on RootsWeb.

-) Jeanne

_________________________________

Fitchburg & Harvard MA

Posted by Gene Whitney <[email protected]> on Thu, 03 Dec 1998

Surnames: Whitney, Reed

James Whitney married Lucy Reed Oct. 1803 in Harvard, Worcester County, MA. Three children Lucy b. July 1804, Jefferson b. Apr. 1809, Mary b. Dec. 1809. Jefferson probably used his middle name, James, and married Emma B. (unknown), resided in Fitchburg, MA, d. March, 1867. Need further decendents.

Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne Muse" <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 17:08:44 -0400 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Philip F. Cowdin To: [email protected]

Hello WRG:

The Probate Records of the County of Worcester, Massachusetts, (LDS Film

0860630, Vol. 185) include the original documents for my ancestor, Benjamin

WHITNEY (b. 17 Sep 1796, Westminster, Mass.)

Page 329 is a Nomination for guardianship, dated 27 Jan 1817, in which Benjamin Whitney "son of John Whitney late of Westminster in said County deceased and the gran son of Abner Whitney late of said Westminster deceased" [snip] "made choice of Philip F. Cowdin of said Fitchburg, gentleman, to be his Guardian."

Is anyone familiar with his Guardian, Philip F. COWDIN of Fitchburg, Mass.?

Searches in the normal internet places (RootsWeb, GenDex, GenServ etc.) have not resulted in anyone by that name ... or the C350 soundex spellings of Cowden, Coudin or Couden. I've also searched everywhere in our Whitney web sites. (Of course, a person doesn't have to be a relative to become a Guardian, but it is possible.)

   Thanks for any help.

-) Jeanne W. Muse

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From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 02:15:56 EDT Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Re: James Whitney and Lucy Reed To: [email protected]

Dear WRG:

Here is a copy of my response to Gene Whitney, as per Jeanne Muse's forwarding of his inquiry.

Dear Gene:

Jeanne Muse posted your inquiry to the Whitney-L maillist. I do have some information about this family. First of all, Jefferson was born in 1806, not 1809. Lucy Reed is James' second wife, and she died in January of 1810, just a little more than a month after the birth of Mary, the third child. Thus there could be no further descendants of this marriage.

James Whitney did marry again, in December of 1811, to a woman named Susan Whitney, and they had one child named Hiram. James also had five other children by his first wife, Rachel Laughton.

If you will write and tell me exactly what it is that you are looking for, we can figure out a way for me to send you the information. Or, I can tell you how to find it and download it from the WWW.

Sincerely,

Allan E. Green

Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne Muse" <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:31:25 -0400 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Re: John Whitney of Watertown To: [email protected]

Dear Merry: The Whitney group would be tickled to add your family to the John & Elinor database. It would be good to join in the group first to help you "fill in the blanks", as you said.

To join our Whitney Surname Discussion Group, send an email message to [email protected] with the word SUBSCRIBE in the body. As this is an automated system, no other text will be recognized. (You can "unsubscribe" the same way.) You will shortly begin receiving messages from the group. Once you are "subscribed", post your queries via e-mail to: [email protected].

About the ancestry of John Whitney, nothing before his father, Thomas Whitney, has been proven! In fact, some of the published records may be completely false. Read what has been done so far in research by finding the link on this page:

http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/index.html

The group is in the middle of transcribing and putting on-line the ~entire~ book by Pierce that you said you couldn't find. The link to it is also on the above page.

Nice to hear from another Whitney cousin!

-) Jeanne W. Muse

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--Original Message-- Hi. My name is Merry Whitney. My family was via John Whitney's (the 16 year old, born England 1620 & came here with his father, John born England 1589, mother Elinor, born England 1599, brothers Richard b. 1626, Nathaniel b. 1627, Thomas b. 1629 & Jonathan, born 1634 in England); brothers Joshua (b.1635 in Watertown; Caleb, b. & d. 1640, and Benjamin, b. 1643 were born here after arrival on ship Elizabeth & Anne in 1635. John's son Nathaniel, b. 1646, was my first ancestor born here. Nathaniel & his wife, Sarah Hager, b. 1651, had 3 sons & 5 daughters; one of the sons, Samuel, baptized 1687, married Anne Laboree Jan. 18, 1721 and had one son & 3 daughters; their son Samuel, b. 1727, married Hannah Judson and had two sons, then married second (Martha) after Hannah died of smallpox in 1760. Samuel & Hannah's first son, James, b. 1753, d. 1841 was my great-great-great-grandfather. James & wife Eunice Johnson (b. 1756) had 12 children; their son Zerah b.1784 married Jane Demond 2/19/1808 had six sons & one daughter; son Abraham Johnson Whitney b. January 1820 married 3rd wife (I don't know what happened to first two, Julia Morse, then Virginia Chatterdon, I have no list of children, if any) Franncess Bennett, born England, d. 1909. Abraham J. & Franncess Bennett Whitney (there's supposedly a Frank Lloyd Wright connection to Franccess Bennett, & we have copies of a childish scrawl in F.B. Whitney's scrap book of "Anna Wright" & a bequest to Anna Wright in F.B.'s will), but A.J. & F.B. Whitney had one son, my grandfather, Willard Johnson Whitney, b. Grand Rapids, Michigan 12/12/1876; Gramps married Carrie Myrtle Fannaff, & they had one son (another child died in infancy), my father, Chester Gaylord Whitney, b. 6/18/1901, married Marguerite Sigmon, b. 11/18/1898, d. 10/07/1954 in 1929 (my mom). My parents had three children, my brother Wyman Gaylord b. 12/28/29, d. 1968, my sister Geraldine b. 1/24/37 and me, Merry Janet Whitney, b. 10/09/38. I have parents & siblings, usually with siblings spouses, back to James Whitney, who married Blanche Milburn (no b. or d. dates) & was appointed Receiver of Newport by Henry VIII in 1522, but I'd love to fill in a lot of blanks as well as to supply what I have wherever it might be wanted. There's a post on aol.com's genealogy site (familyhistory.com) that mentions a book titled "Whitney: The Descendants of John Whitney Who arrived from England in Watertown Mass" by Franklin Pierce, pub. 1895, but I could get no recognition from either Amazon.com or barnesnoble.com; one of them pulled endless titles by Franklin Pierce, the pre-Civil War President (who died in 1862 or 1867), nothing on John Whitney. Do you have a suggested reading list? Is there anything in the above that you'd be interested in an elaboration on? (sorry: I've been accused, if asked what time it is, of giving instructions for the construction of a watch factory). I live in Berwyn, Illinois and work as public relations director for Cicero (IL) public library. I really thought the library was the end-all when it came to finding information -- then I found out my computer at home could do stuff besides word processing. What a phenomenal tool! Thank you very much for the information you've put on line. How do I go about "joining forces" with the Whitney Research Group? My e-mail address is: [email protected], and a second service, [email protected] (aol was really tough to get connected to between 6pm and 2 or 3am for a while). P.S. The spelling on some of the above names is as it appears in my ancestral "tree." I suspect some of it may be typo or misspellings, but I'm not certain so I've left it as is.

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I've tried this cartoon address, and nothing bad happened. It's funny, especially for genealogists.

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From: "Karen Hall Blunk" <[email protected]>

Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 12:27:32 -0700 Organization: Microsoft Corporation Subject: [BlackSheep-L] Possible new member :) To: [email protected]

Funny cartoon:

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Karen

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 21:42:41 -0600 From: "W.G. \"Bill\" Whitney" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Whitney's of Augusta Twp., Grenville Co., Canada. References: <000001be9923$029cfb20$4de5fdd1@dell> To: [email protected]

I am a direct descendant of David Whitney and I grew up in Prescott Ontario, county of Grenville, Augusta township. I have visited that Maynard cemetary you described and the others. We always guessed that David came up to Canada around 1790 but I can't prove that. We would like to know more about Olive Day and Mary Glassford too. Does anyone know precisely when David arrived in Canada?

I will try and collect all information that I have and send it later. You realize that that the two "different" Whitney families lived side by side in Prescott and considered themselves not related! David's family was descended from John and Elinor (Mass. 1635) while the other family was descended from Henry Whitney in Long Island (1648?)

The Premier of Ontario, Sir James Pliny Whitney, came from Henry 's side of the family and grew up in Morrisburg, Ontario, son of Richard Leet Whitney, a blacksmith that came up from the United States. James had a reputation for honesty and was responsible for the founding of Ontario Hydro at Niagara Falls. His brother lived in Prescott.

Regards Bill Whitney

jetjock wrote:

> I would like to know if anyone knows more about the wives and children of > David Whitney, found in Pierce on page 112, #560. > > Pierce says he was the son of Matthias and that he was born in Killingly, CT > in 1754 (also given as 1764 on father's page 59, good old Pierce). David > m1st Olive Day. Does anyone know anything about her, her parents, dates, > children, etc.? > David m 2nd Mary Glassford and my reason for researching these people is > that my g-g-grandfather is supposed to have been "a Glassford Whitney", a > middle name found twice four generations removed from David. I know who Mary > Glassford was and have quite a bit on the Glassford (Glasford) families but > can't connect. David's children (by which wife?) are listed in Pierce > however I think from searches I have done in that area of Canada that all > those listed are not his. They were: Lucy, David, Cynthia, Comfort, Mary, > Asa, Alanson, Samuel, Sarah, Olive, David again, Calvin, Asa again, and > John. > > David's stone is found in the old section of Maynard Cemetery, lot 64, age > 67 (b 1763) and a duplicate stone is next to his which says "Mary", probably > his wife. The Toronto "Christian guardian" newspaper published 4 Apr., 1832. > "Died in Augusta Friday last, Mary, widow of the late David Whitney, age > about 45. (David senior's wife? Rather young) > > Of the 56 records I have in my data base of Whitney's in Grenville Co., > Augusta Twp. alone, I have the following people that might be his children, > or others of David's age bracket I know to be located close to his land. > > Alanson was born about 1822 and is buried in lot 209, Maynard Cemetery, s/o > Samuel! > > Calvin was born 14 Jan., 1816 & m 1st Hiltha Scott, m 2nd Caroline Conklin > who was b Oct., 1818 & d 28 Nov., 1856, both buried old section of Manayd > Cemetery, lots 19 & 19. m 3rd Isabella Harrison. I don't know the mothers of > the children of Calvin who were (not in birth order) Amerilla, Francis [sic] > Maria, Sarah, Caroline, Lucy, James Harvey, John, Calvin, Martin, George, > Thomas, Mary Elizabeth, & four others. The 1861/2 atlas of shows seven > Whitney lots close together just NW of Prescott, names on them are Calvin, > D., Samuel, E., C., David. > > Comfort was a veteran of the War of 1812 and his stone is in Maynard > Cemetery, d 30 Dec., 1875. He m 1st Anna, she d 14 Mar., 1830, he m 2nd > Lucretia Dake. Ch= Chauncey, Joseph, Augustus, Leonie, Mrs. Ambrose Newans. > > Cynthia d 3 Apr., 1876, age 83. She m James Holden who d 3 oct., 1863, age > 86y 11d. Both buried Maynard cemetery. Ch= David, James, Eliza, Lois, > Sophronia, Mary, Anna, Cynthia. > > David Jr. d 14 Jun., 1889, 77y & m Sophronia Wood 18 Mar., 1833, both of > Augusta, d/o Rev. Anthony. Wit. Joseph & Anthony Wood. They had three sons > living, W.A. Whitney, M.A. of Morrisburg, P.A. of Brantford, George M. of > Merrickville. A daughter was Mrs. A. McCrea of Minn. In the Maynard > Cemetery, lot 50, is a stone for Henry W., b 9 Aug., 1841, s/o David & > Sophronia, age 8m, and also one for Arnold, b 23 Jul., 1839, age 1m 11d. > > George M. tombstone dates at Maynard Cemetery are 1847-1913, lot 4. Wife > Mary C. Robinson d 1854, Grace A. 1888-1895, David W. 1812-1889. Sophronia, > David Jr.'s wife 1815-1892. Georgina 1876-1921. > > James H., s/o Calvin is buried in the old section of the Maynard Cemetery, > lot 14. > > Joseph C., s/o Samuel, buried Maynard Cemetery, lot 80, 1839-1928. Wife > Abigail 1841-1922. > > Sarah Jane, called Sally, b 11 Dec., 1805, d26 Mar., 1881, m Henry Hodge in > 1825, wit. George Glassford. Henry's brother was Timothy, Jr. & m Sidney > Glassford who was b 1794. > > Finally the end of those that might be related to David. A second Whitney / > Glassford marriage was of William Whitney of Montreal, who m Ann Amelia > Glassford 29 Jul., 1820 at Point Clare just W of Montreal. d/o James > Glassford. > > Can you add to this? Thanks,,,, Ben Whitney

From: [email protected] Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 00:43:45 EDT Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Henry Mason Whitney To: [email protected]

Does anyone have any information on Henry Mason WHITNEY? He was born 20 Nov 1850 in Alexander, Maine to Margaret Hall BOHANON and Henry Payson WHITNEY.

The family came to Minnesota in about 1872 and Henry did not come with his parents and sisters. The family rumor was that there was some sort of falling out as he never visited nor is anyone aware of any communication. His sister Julia Ardelle named her first son Henry supposedly after her brother. There is no information beyond his birthdate in the book " Family Records of Early Inhabitants of Alexander, ME" compiled by Ellen & Harold Fenlason according to a Bohanon relative who has the book.

Henry may have remained in the Alexander, Maine area although the family had done some other moving around prior to coming to Minnesota.

Does anyone connect to Henry Mason Whitney?

Jo Hogle

Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne Muse" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Philip F. Cowdin Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 08:16:38 -0400 To: [email protected]

Thanks for helping me find the Cowdin families. I was a little lucky and found some information in the IGI at LDS, but found the surname spelled CowdEn most of the time. Also viewed the 1800 census at the Worcester County GenWeb site.

One of our members, Carla Ann Cepeda, lives in Leominster, and owns several histories/biographies for the town of Fitchburg. The line goes something like this:

Thomas Cowdin and Hannah ? had 3 children: David, Thomas Jr. and William. Thomas Cowden Sr. owned a tavern in Fitchburg. It appears that Thomas Cowdin Sr. died before the 1800 census since Hannah is listed as Head of Household.

Thomas Cowdin Jr. and Mary Farrington had lots of children, including Philip Farrington Cowdin b. 6 Apr 1780 Fitchburg.

Philip F. Cowdin married twice (according to IGI): 1st to Eunice Sawyer 28 Sep 1805; 2nd to Emily Pratt 3 Mar 1847.

Philip F. Cowdin and Eunice Sawyer had at least one child: Philip Cowdin b. 12 Jan 1821 Fitchburg.

One of the Philip Cowdin men inherited the estate in 1859 or so -- probably the son.

Getting back to the major issue -- Was Philip F. Cowdin related to the Whitney family in any way? It does not appear so.

In Jan 1817 Philip F. Cowdin was chosen as Benjamin Whitney's Guardian. This moved him from his home in Westminster to Fitchburg, where he may have become an apprentice to Philip or worked for him at his homestead. (Or since Benjamin & Philip Jr. were contemporaries, Philip Sr. may have simply stepped in to help his son's friend.) In Sep of that same year, Benjamin became 21 years old. It was 7 years later (1824) that he married.

Thanks!

-) Jeanne W. Muse

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From: Robert L. Ward <<img src="/robertward.gif">> To: Jeanne Muse <[email protected]>

Date: Friday, May 28, 1999 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Philip F. Cowdin

>At 05:08 PM 5/27/99 -0400, you wrote: >>Hello WRG: >> >>The Probate Records of the County of Worcester, Massachusetts, (LDS Film >>#0860630, Vol. 185) include the original documents for my ancestor, Benjamin >>WHITNEY (b. 17 Sep 1796, Westminster, Mass.) >> >>Page 329 is a Nomination for guardianship, dated 27 Jan 1817, in which >>Benjamin Whitney "son of John Whitney late of Westminster in said County >>deceased and the gran son of Abner Whitney late of said Westminster >>deceased" [snip] "made choice of Philip F. Cowdin of said Fitchburg, >>gentleman, to be his Guardian." >> >>Is anyone familiar with his Guardian, Philip F. COWDIN of Fitchburg, Mass.? >> >>Searches in the normal internet places (RootsWeb, GenDex, GenServ etc.) have >>not resulted in anyone by that name ... or the C350 soundex spellings of >>Cowden, Coudin or Couden. I've also searched everywhere in our Whitney web >>sites. (Of course, a person doesn't have to be a relative to become a >>Guardian, but it is possible.) >> >> Thanks for any help. >> >>;-) Jeanne W. Muse >>[email protected] > >Jeanne, > >In 1800, there are Hannah, James, and Thomas COWDEN in Fitchburg. In 1810, >there are Hannah, James, Philip F., Samuel, and Thomas COWDEN in Fitchburg. >There are Hannah, James, and Thomas COWDEN who were heads of household in >Fitchburg in the 1820 Census. There were a few others in MA, in Rutland, >Boston, and Williamstown. There were others in Rutland, Boston, and >Princeton. Sounds like Philip F. was living in someone else's household. >In 1830, there are Asa B., James D., Philip F., and Thomas COWDEN in >Fitchburg. In 1840, only Philip F. COWDEN is still in Fitchburg. In 1850 >are found Betsy, Jr., Elizabeth C., Harriet, James D., Josephine L., >Louisa, Nathaniel, and Susan F. COWDIN. I suppose Philip F. had died >between 1840 and 1850. > >Regards, > >Robert > >Robert L. Ward ><img src="/robertward.gif"> ><http://www.erols.com/rlward1/> >12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 >301-776-1659 > >

Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne Muse" <[email protected]> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 08:57:02 -0400 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Jane Whitney / Jonathan Morse To: [email protected]

Dear WRG: A kind soul passed along the following information to me recently. This adds more descendants for John Whitney of Watertown, Mass.

This concerns Jane-3 WHITNEY (Benjamin-2, John-1)

Jane WHITNEY b. 29 Sep 1668/9, Watertown, Mass. --My Source notes: "Whitney Genealogy" by Pierce - She is No. 63 on pg.27; NEHG Register Vol 11, Apr 1857 p117 "6 ch."; Bond p645.

Married 4 Jan 1693/4 in Sherborn, Mass., Jonathan MORSE, the "eldest son" of Lt. Jonathan MORSE and Mary BARBOUR, who was b. 11 Jul 1667.

Children of Jonathan and Jane (WHITNEY) MORSE were: Abigail Morse b. 23 Apr 1695, Maplewood, Mass. Isaac Morse b. 27 Mar 1698, Maplewood, Mass. Jane Morse b. 5 Jan 1702/3, Maplewood, Mass. Eunice Morse b. 10 Aug 1706, Maplewood, Mass. Abiah Morse b. 17 Jan 1708/9, Maplewood, Mass.

The info on Jane's children is from Charlotte Brennan of the Morse Society, as given to me by Lois Godbout [email protected] on May 23, 1999.

Just thought I'd pass it along as these children are not found in our Whitney database (#13) and Pierce does not follow the line further.

-) Jeanne W. Muse

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Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne Muse" <[email protected]>

       "Carolyn Tilton" <[email protected]>

Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 07:55:44 -0400 Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Anne Whitney / William W. Hawes To: [email protected]

Dear WRG: Jim Eagan [e-mail: [email protected] ] hopes that he can find connections to his people in our group and that we will add the descendants of ANN Whitney and William HAWES to our Henry Whitney database. She is Ann-6 WHITNEY (Josiah-5, Richard-4, Henry-3, John-2, Henry-1). His message to me this morning is below.

-) Jeanne

Dear Jeanne, I am very pleased to hear from you and have the opportunity to pass this on to someone.

My primary interest is in locating any, living, direct descendant of a gentleman named William "Pirate Bill" Johnston. That would also be some of the direct descendants of your Ann Whitney. The connection is as follows:

As you know, Ann married William W. Hawes your I won't repeat the b's & d's as mine match what you already have. However, they had three children that I have found. They are:

1) CHARLES L. HAWES Born in Canada in 1820, Died 1878 - pg 437 Clayton of 1850 census - Shoemaker - had shop in Clayton - census says he arrived about 1845 but his father was there in 1835! In 1855 state census, a HELEN KARLEY, age 14 is listed as a servant - 1860 census carries him as auctioneer This is the branch that holds my interest. More on that later.

2) WILLIAM HAWES war born in 1814 & died in 1879 in Clayton NY

3) JULIANA HAWES married a gentleman who was called an "old time lake captain" which referred to the sailing schooners on which plied Lake Ontario. His name was ARCHIE MARSHALL. They had one child. name sex or dates are not known by me.

Any further information will all pertain to the family of Ann's son CHARLES.

CHARLES L. HAWES married the daughter of "Pirate Bill" Johnston. She was named Catherine Johnston Born 9/11/1819, married to CHARLES on February 21, 1848 - Rev Samuel Orvis performed ceremony - She died March 14, 1878 and is buried in the Clayton NY cemetery There is a small possibility her actual birth may have been 9- 11- 1818. As both have been found in the research. She is remembered even to this day as a brave and attractive girl who would help her father avoid capture during the Patriot's War of 1838. Pirate Bill was then wanted on both sides of the St. Lawrence. Among other things there was the small matter of his capturing a British steamer and burning it to the water line, but that's a bit too much to get into right now. At any rate, there is a picture available of her. She has a very prominent nose. She was Nicknamed "Kate" and was known as the "Queen of the St Lawrence" Handled a skiff better than most men! CHARLES & CATHERINE had six children that I have found. I think I have them all, but you never know! They are (oldest to youngest)

KITTY HAWES born in 1850 - died March 29, 1878 in Clayton NY- From Jefferson County News "died in Clayton of the late Charles L & Catherine Hawes"

WILLIAM W. HAWES - born in 1851 In Jefferson County NY - died (date unk) in Stamford Ct. and it is believed he was buried there. married?? unknown.

ANNE ( or Annabelle) HAWES - reportedly born in 1854, however, there is an Ann Hawes in Clayton in 1850 census pg 443 - Don't know when she died but one acct has her in Florida in 1933 & another acct Another acct has her a widow in NYC (I'm still looking)

CATHERINE J. HAWES - also born in 1854 in Jefferson County NY. - Which girl is older? maybe twins? I just don't know yet. CATHERINE J. died on March 29, 1878 and she is buried in the Clayton NY cemetery

JENNIE HAWES, b 1855 (or possibly in 1856) believed to have died when a small child

JOSEPHINE M HAWES, b 1859 in Jefferson County NY , d 1933 unknown where She married a JOHN UNSER. I can't find anything else on them. They MAY have lived for a while in Carthage NY or in Stamford CT.

Hope this has been some help to you! When passing this along to everyone else, feel free to also provide my email address in the hopes someone can connect to HAWES or UNSER

Best wishes, Jim Eagan [email protected]

Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 15:18:13 -0700 From: "Nancy W. Hicks" <[email protected]>

Organization: ZDNet Mail (http://www.zdnetmail.com:80) Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Harry E.Whitney To: [email protected]

Harry Earl Whitney,b. Detroit,MI approx1880,owned H.E.Whitney Cadillac Service (IDAHO?)m. Olive Grace Campbell in Sandpoint, ID, 1921. Left before Oct. 1922.What happened to him? Where is he? His family?HELP [email protected]

Free web-based email, anytime, anywhere! ZDNet Mail - http://www.zdnetmail.com

Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 10:06:13 +0700 From: Walter Harwood <[email protected]> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Whitney, Sarah; Born March 17, 1652/53; Probably Watertown, MA To: [email protected]

Good morning to the WHITNEY list members,

   In trying to straighten out my WHITNEY database, in that it appears

that she has two sets of parents. Hopefully someone on the list can help me straighten out the mess.

   I have SARAH WHITNEY born March 17, 1653/54, died June 8, 1720, as

the daughter of JOHN and RUTH (REYNOLDS) WHITNEY. I show SARAH as marrying DANIEL HARRINGTON, October 18, 1681.

   I also have a SARAH WHITNEY born March 17, 1652/53, daughter of

RICHARD and MARTHA (COLDHAM) WHITNEY, who is also shown as marrying DANIEL HARRINGTON.

   I am presuming that both parents had a daughter named SARAH, and

that I have the birth dates fouled up. I have a bit of trouble believing the SARAH's were born exactly one year apart. If anyone on the list has any information they are willing to share, it would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Rick in Thailand

From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 02:51:15 EDT Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Whitney, Sarah; Born March 17, 1652/53; Probably

    Watertown, MA

To: [email protected]

Dear Rick:

The Sarah who married Daniel Harrington is the one that is the daughter of John-2 Whitney and Ruth Reynolds. The one with the birthdate above is that Sarah. The other Sarah Whitney, daughter and first child of John-2's younger brother, Richard-2 and Martha Coldham Whitney is shown in Robert Ward's outstanding 6-Generation study as born Oct of 1653 and nothing further is known of her -- i.e., she may have died young.

The confirmation of this is in the will and inventory of John-2 Whitney in Watertown. His estate was probated 12 Mar 1692/3, Watertown, Middlesex, MA; "agreement between Ruth Whitney, widow of John Whitney, late of Watertown, decd., and John Whitney, Nathanll. Whitney, Samuel Whitney, Joseph Whitney and Benjamin Whitney, sons of said John Whitney, decd., also Enoch Lawrence, Daniel Harrington, and Daniel Warren his sons-in-law, and Mary and Hannah his daughters unmarried..." Later on it speaks of "Daniel Herington and Sary his wife,...

See all this and much more on Robert Ward's web site, at:

http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/

and look at the 6-Generation study of the descendants of John and Elinor Whitney. There is also much of value to be found in the Vital Records that the Whitney Research Group has transcribed, the transcription of the Pierce book, and much, much more.

Good Luck, Enjoy, and write to us/me again if you need further help.

Allan E. Green

Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 09:18:48 -0400 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Harry E.Whitney To: [email protected]

At 03:18 PM 5/30/99 -0700, you wrote: >Harry Earl Whitney,b. Detroit,MI approx1880,owned H.E.Whitney Cadillac Service (IDAHO?)m. Olive Grace Campbell in Sandpoint, ID, 1921. Left before Oct. 1922.What happened to him? Where is he? His family?HELP >[email protected] > > >Free web-based email, anytime, anywhere! >ZDNet Mail - http://www.zdnetmail.com

Nancy,

You can try the Social Security Death Index:

 <http://www.gentree.com/whitney/whssdi3.html>

This will give you the dates and states of death of quite a few people named Harry Whitney. Then you can write to the states to obtain the death certificates, and see if they were born in or near Detroit, MI, or had middle name "Earl". If that fails, you can try names for which "Harry" is a nickname, such as Harrison, Harold, Henry, ...

Of course it may be that Harry Earl Whitney never had a Social Security Number, or that he never collected benefits. In those cases, he would not appear in the SSDI.

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/> 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 18:48:14 -0400 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] New Whitney Research Group Website!! To: [email protected]

Dear WRG,

Several weeks ago Tim Doyle contacted me and suggested that we collaborate to create a new website for the Whitney Research Group. Tim and I have been working hard on this project since then and we believe that we are ready for all to use the new pages.

You should find that all the data at my Whitney Family web pages at <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/> has been incorporated into the new website. There is more data there, too, which we have added since we began to work on the site. The data is also organized a little differently. Pretty soon the pages at erols.com will be removed, and replaced by links to the corresponding new pages.

Please take a look at the new site, located at:

   <http://www.whitneygen.org/>

and tell us what you think. Be honest and let us know if there's something that we could make better. We're still tinkering with a few things, including the color scheme and the logo. Let us know your opinions on the colors, layout, design, functionality, etc.

Be sure to try out the new Master Search Engine! We think you'll be very pleased. It isn't a speed demon, so wait for it to finish before following links. This feature is one of the things which has driven this project, as such a capability was impossible for me at erols.com.

Enjoy!

Robert Ward and Tim Doyle WRG Webmasters

Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 16:28:09 -0700 From: cynthia a pobst <[email protected]>

Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Whitney Family Tree To: [email protected]

My current Whitney family tree line is a follows:

Nathaniel Whitney Eli Whitney (the inventor of the cotton gin) Eli Whitney II Eli Harrison Whitney Harry Erwin Whitney Wallace Lowell Whitney

Then comes my dad, Dale Craig Whitney.

Can someone tell me if this is correct?

Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 20:54:36 -0400 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Whitney Family Tree To: [email protected]

At 04:28 PM 5/31/99 -0700, you wrote: >My current Whitney family tree line is a follows: > >Nathaniel Whitney >Eli Whitney (the inventor of the cotton gin) >Eli Whitney II >Eli Harrison Whitney >Harry Erwin Whitney >Wallace Lowell Whitney > >Then comes my dad, Dale Craig Whitney. > >Can someone tell me if this is correct?

Sorry, Cynthia, but this cannot be correct. Eli, the inventor, was son of Eli, and grandson of Nathaniel. Secondly, while he did have just one son (named Eli), and just one grandson (named Eli, too), the last mentioned had no sons, but seven daughters. That means that the name Whitney died out among his descendants.

Many other branches of the Whitney family named their sons Eli to honor the inventor. Proabably you descend from one of them. To help you find your line of descent, probably we'll need more details, especially about the earliest generations of what you can prove.

For example, there was an Eli H. Whitney, b. 28 Oct 1847, Upton, MA, whose ancestry is Eli H.-10, William Flanagan-9, Moses-8, Ephraim-7, Ephraim-6, Nathaniel-5, Nathaniel-4, Nathaniel-3, John-2, John-1. He descends from an uncle of the inventor, so is a first cousin three times removed of the inventor. He mar. Elvira J. Stowe, and had a son Harry Erwin-11 WHITNEY, b. 17 Nov 1883, in Westborough, MA. It seems likely to me that this is your correct line of descent, but without further details on your people, I can't be sure.

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/> 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 21:06:58 EDT Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Whitney NY>CA To: [email protected]

Hi List:

Looking for the following family... Kim Schildwachter

              Edwin Forest Whitney was born Abt. 1838 in Lyons,

Wayne County, New York, and died February 16, 1923 in Compton, Los Angeles County, California. He married Mary Grove.

Children of Edwin Whitney and Mary Grove are:

         i.   William Wesley Whitney, born 1871 in Pennsylvania;

died November 06, 1935 in Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California.

         ii.  Edna Whitney, born Abt. 1872.

         iii. Anita Grove Whitney, born June 1865 in New York; died

July 25, 1955 in Compton, Los Angeles County, California. She married Justus Herbert Williams June 20, 1885 in Oakland, Alameda County, California.

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