Mailing List Discussions, November 1998

Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 17:12:16 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: WHITNEY Extracts from the NEHGR, Part 8 To: [email protected] Dear WRG: Here are more interesting and useful extracts from the NEHGR.

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Clark, George Kuhn, "Births Recorded by the Rev. Jonathan Townsend, A.M., Minister of the First Church in Needham, 1749-1762," _NEHGR_, vol. LVI (1902), pp. 141-149.

[p. 148] Nov: 3, 1761, Jonathan Whitney had a Son Born. David.

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Peck, Thomas Bellows, "Records of the First Church of Rockingham, Vt.," _NEHGR_, vol. LVI (1902), pp. 248-260, 384-396.

[p. 254] 1781 ... May 31. Married Ebenezer Stoell & Pamela Whitney [p. 256] [1796] ... August 3. Married Josiah Johnson & Elisabeth Whitney [p. 385, burials] 1782 ... Octob 8. John Whitney's 2d child [p. 388, church membership list, ?1794?] Agnis Whitney

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Bacon, Leon Brooks, "Michael Bacon and his Descendants," _NEHGR_, vol. LVI (1902), pp. 364-374.

[pp. 369, 373-374] [Rev.] JACOB-4 BACON(Thomas-3, John-2, Michael-1), [son of Thomas-3 and Hannah (Fales) Bacon,] was born 9 Sep 1706, in Wrentham. He graduated from Harvard College, class of 1731. He removed to Upper Ashuelot, now Keene, New Hampshire, by 1737. He was ordained there Oct. 18, 1738. After the town was burned by the Indians in April 1747, he preached in Boxford. In 1749 he became pastor of the Third Church in Plymouth, and continued there until 1776, when the Society ceased to maintain public worship. He then preached for 18 months in Plympton, Second Parish, then retired to Rowley, where he died Aug. 14, 1787. He married first, June 22, 1749, "Mary Wood of Boxford," born 1717, died Feb. 17, 1772, daughter of Dr. David Wood. He married second, Mary Whitney, who died at David Thurston's in Sedgwick, Maine, March 6, 1815, aged 87.

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Partridge, George Homer, "John Partridge of Medfield, Mass., and his Descendants," _NEHGR_, vol. LVII (1903), pp. 50-58, 280-288, 389-397.

[p. 53] SAMUEL-2 PARTRIDGE (John-1) ... He married Hannah ... Mason. Children:

   i. Hannah-3, b. April 6, 1702; m.(1) Feb. 2, 1725, Cornelius, b.
      Wrentham, Sept. 29, 1692, d. April 21, 1754, son of Cornelius and
      Anna (Whitney) Fisher.  They resided in Wrentham.  Children. (See
      Fisher Gen.)  She m.(2) Daniel Hawes of Wrentham, and was living
      Feb., 1760.

[p. 58] JOSEPH-3 PARTRIDGE (Eleazer-2, John-1) was born in Medfield, March 15, 1706. He removed with his father to Bellingham, where he afterwards resided. He married twice: first, Feb. 26, 1729, Elizabeth (or Betty), born in Medfield (now Medway), Nov. 10, 1705, daughter of Henry and Sarah (Wheelock) Guernsey (spelled Garnsey). She died in Bellingham, Jan. 13, 1732; and he married second, Dec. 21, 1732, Eunice, born in Sherborn, Aug. 10, 1706, daughter of Jonathan and Jane (Whitney) Morse. She died Nov. 3, 1785, "aged 80 years" (Bellingham Town Records); and he died June 22, 1722.

Children by first wife:

    i. Keziah-4, b. Jan. 22, 1730; d. Nov. 7, 1767; m. March 13, 1758,
       Ephraim, b. Wrentham, July 10, 1731, son of Ebenezer and Ann (Allen)
       Hill.  They resided in West Medway.  Children.
   ii. Elizabeth, b. Dec. 24, 1731; d. Feb. 4, 1772; unmarried.

Children by second wife:

  iii. Hannah, b. Nov. 6, 1733; m. June 23, 1762, Aaron, b. Bellingham,
       Aug. 31, 1730, son of John and Hannah Holbrook.  Children.  They
       reisded in Bellingham.  He d. April 4, 1818.
   iv. Asa, b. Oct. 23, 1736; no further record.
    v. Rachel, b. May 14, 1739; no further record.
   vi. Phebe, b. July 2, 1741; no further record.
  vii. Joseph, b. May 26, 1743; d. Oct. 7, 1746.
 viii. Peter, b. July 17, 1745; d. Oct. 8, 1746.
   ix. Rhoda, b. Oct. 17, 1748; d. Feb. 20, 1751.

[p. 283] Cynthia[-5 Partridge, dau. of Jabez-4 and Anna (Twitchell) Partridge (Jonathan-3, John-2, John-1)], b. Nov. 4, 1783; d. July 1, 1860; m. Luke Whitney, b. Winchester, May 21, 1783, d. Gardner, Sept. 1, 1838; resided in Gardner. Eleven children.

[p. 394] ZACHARIAH-4 PARTRIDGE (Zachariah-3, Eleazer-2, John-1) [son of Zachariah-3 and Esther (Turner) Partridge,] was born in Walpole, Jan. 15, 1744. He settled in Holden, Mass., where he married twice: first, Aug. 31, 1772, Mary Houghton of Holden; and second, Aug. 4, 1779, Mary Whitney of Holden. No records of the births of any children are found.

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Bolton, Ethel Stanwood, "Inscriptions from the Cemetery at Shirley Centre, Mass., from 1754 to 1850," _NEHGR_, vol. LVII (1903), pp. 200-207.

[p. 207] Mr. Charles Whitney | Born | Jan 2, 1794, | Died Dec. 13, 1820. | Elizabeth D. | Born Oct 23, 1819, | Died Dec. 18, 1820. | Children of Charles & | Dolly Whitney

Mrs. Dolly, | wife of | Charles Whitney, | Born Nov. 15, 1793, | Died Apr. 23, 1850.

Hon. James P. | Whitney, | Died | Jan. 14, 1847 | AEt 44.

Erected | in memory of | Mrs Lydia Whitney | the Amiable Consort of the | rev. Phinehas Whitney. | She died 11th Octr 1805 | in the 57 year of her age.

Mrs Lydia B. P. | wife of | James P. Whitney | Died | Feb. 28, 1842, | AEt 26.

Here lies the | Body of Mrs Miriam | Whitney wife of the | Revd Mr Phinehas | Whitney Who departed this Life March | 20th 1769 In the | 29th year of her age.

In Memory of | Rev. | Phinehas Whitney | Who died | December 13, 1819; | in the Eightieth year | of his age. | And Fifty Eighth year | of his ministry. | Erected by his Son Thomas Whitney

Thomas | Whitney Esq. | Died | Jan. 14, 1844, | AEt. 73.

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Clarke, George Kuhn, "Baptisms Recorded by the Ministers of the First Church in Needham. 1720-1849," _NEHGR_, vol. LVII (1903), pp. 252-263, 370-380.

[p. 256] Sept: 20. 1761: Sarah, Daughter of Jonathan Whitney, ... Nov: 22. 1761. David, Son of Jonathan Whitney, [p. 257] July 13th [1766] Esther Daughter of Jonathan Whitney [p. 372] July ye 19. [1801] ye child of Israel Whitney named Permelia [p. 373] July ye 4. [1802] ye child of Israel Whitney named Mary Richards ... Feby. 12. 1804 child of Israel Whitney --- Lavinia [p. 374] April ye 24. [1808] ye child of Israel Whitney named Ann Frances.

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Enjoy!

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 19:21:09 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: WHITNEY Extracts from the NEHGR, Part 9 To: [email protected]

Dear WRG:

Here are more goodies. Enjoy!

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Rodman, Dr. William Woodbridge, "Eltweed Pomeroy of Dorchester, Mass., and Windsor, Conn., and Four Generations of His Descendants," _NEHGR_, vol. LVII (1903), pp. 268-273.

[p. 269] Asahel[-5 Pomeroy, son of Gen. Seth-4 and Mary (Hunt) Pomeroy (Ebenezer-3, Medad-2, Eltweed-1)], b. Dec. 1, 1749[, Northampton, Mass.]; m. (1) Miriam Clapp, who d. July 19, 1793, aged 41; m.(2) Hannah Whitney, who d. Sept. 18, 1812, aged 58; m.(3) Wid. Susanna Reid.

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Bolton, Ethel Stanwood, "Some Descendants of John Moore of Sudbury, Mass.," _NEHGR_, vol. LVII (1903), pp. 300-309.

[pp. 304-305] DANIEL-3 MOORE (Jacob-2, John-1) was born in Sudbury, Apr. 13, 1686 or 7. He married, Feb. 1, 1708-9, Mary Whitney. His children were born in Sudbury. In 1769, Daniel, beingt "advanced in age," made his will, which was not proved until 1773 (Middlesex Co. Probate, 10898). He mentions his sons Daniel and Israel, the children of his daughter Abigail Learned, and his daughters Mary Billing and Eunice Underwood. His wife, Mary, died Apr. 18, 1753.

Children:

    i. A child-4, b. Dec. 12, 1709; d. Dec. 16, 1709.
   ii. Abigail, b. Oct. 18, 1713; m. in 1737, Edward Learned of Sherborn.
  iii. Mary, b. Mar. 20, 1714; m. Jan. 27, 1740, Timothy Billings of
       Concord.
   iv. Daniel (twin), b. Apr. 2, 1716.
    v. Hannah (twin), b. Apr. 2, 1716.
   vi. Eunice, b. July 14, 1719; m. ----- Underwood.
  vii. Isaac, b. Sept. 18, 1724.
 viii. Israel, b. Sept. 18, 1724.
   ix. Elizabeth, b. July 24, 1728.

[p. 309] Tilley[-5 Moore, son of Joseph-4 and Rebecca (Houghton) Moore (Jonathan-3, John-2, John-1)], b. Nov. 29, 1730; m. int. pub. May 15, 1762, to Zilpah Whitney, and had issue. He was ensign of the 2d Company of Lancaster.

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Bartlett, J. Gardner, "John Hill of Dorchester, Mass., and His Descendants," _NEHGR_, vol. LVIII (1904), pp. 237-246.

[p. 238] Isaac[⁵Hill, son of David⁴ and Sarah (Thayer) Hill (Ebenezer-3, John-2, John-1)], b. Aug. 11, 1720; was a husbandman, and lived in Holliston, where he was selectman in 1759, 1764, and 1771. He acknowledged a deed on Feb. 24, 1773; and his heirs made an agreement on his estate on May 26, 1773, so he died in the spring of that year. Heirs mentioned: widow Lydia, eldest son Jonathan-6, and Whitney, Dorothy, Lydia and Susanna. (Middlesex Co. Probate.) He m., about 1743, Lydia, b. Mar. 3, 1712-13, dau. of Jonathan and Susanna Whitney of Sherborn. She d. before Apr. 3, 1780, when her real estate was divided. (Middlesex Co. Deeds.) Their third child, Whitney-6, b. May 13, 1748, is called a "joiner" or housewright in deeds; lived in Holliston, where he d. July 26, 1800, having served in several campaigns in the Revolution (see Mass. Archives); m. Aug 5, 1773, Rachel, b. Apr. 29, 1754, dau. of Timothy and Ruth (Leland) Daniel of Sherborn, who d. Sept. 7, 1850, aged 96 years; seven children. [Footnote: Mr. Lew Cass-9 Hill, for whom this Hill genealogy was compiled, is a descendant of Whitney-6, through his third child Arnold-7, b. Sept. 4, 1778, who m. in Medway, May 26, 1803, Levina, b. in 1785, dau. of Robert and Levina (Cook) Smith of Bellingham. Arnold-7 removed from Mass. to Pittsford, Vt., and later to Hubbardton, Vt., where he d. in. 1844. One of his sons, Clark Peletiah-8, b. Feb. 11, 1821, in Pittsford, Vt., resided in Hubbardton and Fair Haven, Vt., until 1865, when he moved ot Hammondton, N. J., where he d. in 1895, m. Apr. 5, 1851, Eliza M., b. Aug. 30, 1829, dau. of James and Tamsin (Lewis) Pratt of Fair Haven, Vt. Their eldest son was Lew Cass-9, b. Mar. 18, 1852, in Fair Haven, Vt., resides in Boston, where he m. Apr. 4, 1873, Clara Kendall, b. Sept. 20, 1852, dau. of Charles Dustin and Mary Kendall (Whiting) Marcy of Boston, and has three children.]

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Rice, Franklin P., "Baptisms from the Records of the First Church of Holden, Mass., 1743-1822, the Births Not Being on Town Records," _NEHGR_, vol. LVIII (1904), pp. 371-377.

[p. 376] Whitney, Alpheus, s. Samuel and Sarah, May 6, 1760. Narragansett No. 2. Whitney, Nathan, s. Nathan and Tabitha, May 6, 1760. Whitney, Shadrack, s. Timothy and Catherine, Oct. 14, 1770.

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Talcott, Mary Kingsbury, "Records of the Church in Vernon, Conn. 1762-1824," _NEHGR_, vol. LVIII (1904), pp. 400-403; vol LIX (1905), pp. 412-416; vol. LX (1906), pp. 73-81, 262-268.

[v. LVIII, p. 402] Nov. 27 [1785]. Sarah Daughter of Josiah Whitney [baptized]. [v. LIX, p. 412] Octr 30 [1782]. Sarah Whitney Aged about 16 yrs. [buried]. [v. LX, p. 79] Novbr 26 [1783]. Josiah Whitney & Mary Loomis [married]. [v. LX, p. 262] Sept 29 [1782]. Josiah Whitney [joined the church].

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Jones, Arthur M., "Notes and Queries: STIMPSON," _NEHGR_, vol. LX (1906), p. 209.

STIMPSON. -- In the REGISTER, vol. 59, page 368, it is stated that [19] John-5 Stimpson (John-4, John-3, Andrew-2, Andrew-1) married Mary, daughter of Nathaniel and Mary (Kemball) Harrington, but this is an error, for in 1784 she was the wife of David Whitney, as shown in the will of Nathaniel Harrington, in Middlesex Co. Probate, file 7316. The oldest child of Daniel Whitney was named Mary Kimball.

John-5 Stimpson probably married Mary, daughter of Edward and Anna (Bullard) Harrington of Watertown, who, according to Bond, was born Aug. 23, 1752, for in the division of Edward Harrington's estate, in 1794, Middlesex Co. Probate, file 7280, one share was alloted to "the heirs of Mary Stimson, deceased." ARTHUR M. JONES Boston, Mass.

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"Genealogies in Preparation," _NEHGR_, vol. LX (1906), pp. 273-280.

[p. 279] WHITNEY. -- John of Watertown, Mass., by Rev. Charles G. Fogg, Staffordville, Conn.

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Wight, Charles Henry, "Thomas Tarbell and Some of His Descendants," _NEHGR_, vol. LXI (1907), pp. 70-75, 165-172.

Abigail[-2 daughter of Thomas-1 and first wife Mary (-----) Tarbell, of Watertown and Groton,] was living 1719; m. in Watertown, "last of September", 1672, Joshua Whitney of Watertown and Groton.

[p. 168] 19. JONATHAN-4 TARBELL (Thomas-4, Thomas-3, Thomas-2, Thomas-1), married at Groton, Dec. 12, 1754, Lydia, daughter of Ebenezer and Elizabeth (Whitney) Farnsworth, born Dec. 20, 1729. Jonathan was in the French and Indian wars from Groton. He died prior to Mar. 11, 1788, when administration upon his estate was requested. The settlement of his estate, dated Apr. 8, 1789, was made between wife Lydia, and the four children named below. Lydia died prior to Sept. 10, 1806, according to deeds.

Children, born at Groton:

    i. Jonathan-6, b. Oct. 23, 1755.
   ii. Thomas, b. Oct. 17, 1758; m. July 21, 1789, Molly Farnsworth.
  iii. Ebenezer, b. Sept. 10, 1762; m. Jan. 14, 1783, Sarah Warren.
   iv. Solomon, b. Sept. 10, 1762; d. at Lunenburg, Mar. 17, 1856, aged 93
       yrs. 6 mos. 7 ds.; m. Feb 17, 1785, Molly Bennett, who d. at
       Lunenburg, June 7, 1852, aged 91.  Each at the time of death was
       "the oldest inhabitant" of that town.

[p. 169] Asa[-6 Tarbell, son of John-5 and Hannah (Farnsworth) Tarbell (William-4, Thomas-3, Thomas-2, Thomas-1), b. Mar. 18, 1772; d. June 9, 1861; m. June 19, 1803, Relief Whitney. [Footnote: Edmund C.-9 Tarbell, the celebrated artist of Boston, is a descendant of Asa-6 Tarbell through his eldest son, Edmund-7, whose son Edmund Whitney-8 Tarbell was father of the artist. Professor Frank Bigelow-8 Tarbelll of the University of Chicago is a grandson of Asa-6 Tarbell through his son John-7 Tarbell.]

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Greenlaw, Lucy Hall, "Inscriptions at Sudbury, Mass.," _NEHGR_, vol. LXI (1907), pp. 120-127.

[p. 126] In Memory of MR. FRANCIES WHITNEY, who died Aug. 29, 1825; &193;t 34.

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Gay, Frederick Lewis, "Marriages Solemnized by the Rev. Jeremiah Barnard, Amherst, N. H., 1780-1829," _NEHGR_, vol. LXI (1907), pp. 235-243.

[p. 240] Novr 16 [1796] Mr. Aaron Whitney to Miss Pheby Dunkly

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Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif">

http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 20:22:25 EST Subject: Re: Pierce Book To: [email protected]

Ken and all.

Just got home from a flying (along the Interstates - I don't "fly" unless it is overseas) trip to the East Coast and found 652 messages in my box, so I'm trying to catch up.

Several of us own this book - I have it on microfilm and really hate to do lookups for that reason, but others also own it. See the list of resources on Robert Ward's web site for who owns what. BTW, it was published in 1895 in Chicago - I can't remember the printer.

Allan

Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:05:10 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Whitney <[email protected]> Subject: New ships list!!! (fwd) To: [email protected]

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:22:31 EST From: [email protected] To: [email protected] ...

In a message dated 11/2/98 11:56:41 AM, [email protected] wrote:

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From: "Jorfo" <[email protected]> Subject: Whitney / Touchet Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:01:11 -0500 To: [email protected]

What, if any, is the relationship between Thomas Whitney(3) [Robert(2), Sir Robert(1)], who came to Watertown, MA, in 1635, and the Robert Whitney who married Constance Touchet(5), Eleanor Holand(4), Constance Plantagenet(3), Edmund(2) of Langley, 1st Duke of York, King Edward III of England, d. 1377? Or, more to the point, what is the relationship if any of Sir Robert (who married Sybil ____) and the Robert who married Constance Touchet?

John R Folsom Orlando, FL [email protected]

From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:04:17 EST Subject: Re: Whitney / Touchet To: [email protected]

Dear John:

The Sir Robert Whitney who married Sybill Baskerville is supposed to be the great grandson of the Sir Robert Whitney who married Constance Touchet, but there has been some recent question raised about whether the children of that earlier Sir Robert are actually the children of Constance Touchet, or of another (first?) wife. I don't remember the details of this matter, but perhaps one of the other WRG members could speak to that point. I've stopped doing much work on the Whitneys that far back until another question, discussed below, gets resolved.

Further to the point of the beginning of your question, the person you identify as Thomas-3 never came to Watertown in 1635, it was his son, John-1 (by our reckoning) Whitney, christened 1592 at St. Margaret, Westminster, son of Thomas and Mary Bray Whitney. This Thomas cannot be shown to be the son of the Robert Whitney (himself son of Sir Robert and Sybill) and his wife, Elizabeth ap Morgan ap Gwillams. This connection, which appears in the book on the Ancestry of John Whitney, by Henry Melville, has very convincingly been disproved in two articles on this topic that have been published in The American Genealogist - the first in 1933 by Donald Lines Jacobus and the second in 1994(?) by Paul Reed. The ancestry of Thomas Whitney of Westminster is currently under further investigation, but nothing has yet been advanced with any clearly significant evidence that would determine who his parents were.

If you are interested in further information on these two articles, and other Whitney resource materials, I would suggest that you look at a web site maintained by Robert Ward, one of the members of the Whitney Research Group. It can be found at:

http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/index.html

If I/we can assist you in any other way, please write to me or to the Whitney maillist with your questions.

Sincerely,

Allan E. Green

Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 08:02:54 -0600 From: Lorne & Joan Reznowski <[email protected]> Subject: Ezra Whitney, Ct. Hill Cemetary, N.Y. To: [email protected]

Thank you A. Whitney Brown for your July l3th information on the Connecticul Hill Cemetery in NYS. The last week of Oct. I spent an hour driving around the State Game Refuge. I don't recall noticing the cemetery when I was growing up in Newfield. The trees and hills were beautiful with the leaves still holding on with their Fall colors. A number of the headstones were down or broken. There is a ground cover of myrtle. Someone had put plastic flowers on a few graves and my husband and I notices a more modern headstone amongst the l800 ones. It had a burial date of l988 of a Miller. His wife, who is still alive, has a birth date on it that would make her in her 60's. Some stones were so worn that the inscriptions were obliterated. We couldn't find the Whitney name. I'm left wondering about these pioneers. Hope to find out more about that area which is about 5 miles from where I grew up. For someone who lives on the Canadian prairies it was a beautiful drive. I visited my 95 year old mother in Ithaca whose memory isn't that good. Fanny Whitney Babcock comes from my father's side.My brother, through his wife, has become the great-uncle to a new female cousin whose mother is Cornelia Vanderbilt Whitney. She would be a cousin through our Whitney side. Wow, two lines have met! Hope you all got out to vote. My son, Tony Reznowski, was working on the campaign in Virginia. Anyone going to Europe? You could visit Dartington School in Devon, England started by Dorothy Whitney and her 2nd husband, Leonard Elmhirst. My nephew, Chris Kidder, a gggg grandson of Fanny Whitney Babcock, and direct decendent of Francis Scott Key and the Howards of Baltimore is living in London. My son, Fr. Ted Reznowski, a gggg grandson is living in St. Theodore the Studite Monastery, Selo Kolodiyivka, Ternopilski, Oblast, Ukraine. He will be there until May when he hopes to come back and start a Monastery in Canada. He is also researching his Slavic side of the family. I think he needed a change after doing so much geneology here. Maybe he is "basking in the Whitney royal heaven" looking for a connection to Saints Vladimir and Olga. If you get to Ukraine go visit him. My nephew, Jon Heslop, was in Finland for over 2 yrs. He was in charge of building an oil rig which was brought back to the Gulf of Mexico where they are finishing it.

Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:51:40 -0600 From: Paula Thompson <[email protected]> Subject: Elhanna "Tony" Whitney To: [email protected]

Looking for Elhanna "Tony" Whitney b @ 1838 Alabama......pj

From: "Jorfo" <[email protected]> Subject: Whitney Punch Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:14:14 -0500 To: [email protected]

Can anyone out there tell me which Whitney invented the Whitney Punch?

FYI -- My son tells me that this device is similar to a paper punch but is for punching sheet metal.

John R. Folsom Orlando, FL [email protected]

From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:18:52 GMT Subject: re. Henry Melville [Whitney] To: [email protected]

This may be of interest to the WRG. The messages are in chronological order. JGW

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From: "Henry M. Whitney" <[email protected]> To: [WRG]

My grandfather, Henry Melville Whitney of Boston was involved with Dominion Iron & Steel in Nova Scotia shipping coal to New England.

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From: "John G. Whitney" <[email protected]>

To: "Henry M. Whitney" <[email protected]>

Henry,

Do you happen to know if there was any connection between your g/father Henry Melville Whitney of Boston and the Henry Melville who wrote the book "The Ancestry of John Whitney" ?

I have come across the name Henry Melville Whitney somewhere before but I can't recall where or when!

Regards

John Whitney Oxford, UK.

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4-NOV-1998 From: "Henry M. Whitney" <[email protected]> To: "John G. Whitney" <[email protected]>

John:

According to Pierce's Whitney Genealogy, there are two references to Henry Melville (pages 182/3).

The first is to Henry Melville who married Lydia7: b. July 6, 1795, m. 1818, d. January 8, 1864.(Josiah6, Josiah5, Richard4, Richard3, Richard2, John1). No dates are given for Henry Melville.

Lydia had two children, one of whom was Josiah Henry Melville, b. Dec. 18, 1820, m. Nancy Rebecca Nesmith Oct. 15, 1857, d. Mar. 19, 1885. According to Pierce, there were three children, one of whom was Henry Melville, b. Aug. 25, 1858.

There is a short biography of this Henry Melville, relating that he graduated from Dartmouth College, NH in 1879 and in 1884 took a Master's Degree and L.L.B, cum laude at Harvard. From there he entered law practice in New York City and was active in the Republican Party. He appears to have been a writer, for this reference to his having been an editorial writer of a legal work titled "Smith's Leading Cases". There is no reference in Pierce as to his having authored The Ancestry of John Whitney.

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Regards,

Henry Melville Whitney

Sender: [email protected] From: "Ted Whitney" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Pierce Book Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:43:32 -0600 To: [email protected]

Allan,

In case you haven't received a response re the printer for Pierce's book:

Press of W. B. Conkey Company, 341 Dearborn Street, Chicago, Ill., 1895

Regards,

Ted Whitney

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>

Date: Sunday, November 01, 1998 7:24 PM Subject: Re: Pierce Book

>Ken and all. > >Just got home from a flying (along the Interstates - I don't "fly" unless it >is overseas) trip to the East Coast and found 652 messages in my box, so I'm >trying to catch up. > >Several of us own this book - I have it on microfilm and really hate to do >lookups for that reason, but others also own it. See the list of resources on >Robert Ward's web site for who owns what. BTW, it was published in 1895 in >Chicago - I can't remember the printer. > >Allan > >

From: [email protected] (Norris) Subject: Which Daniel Warren Married Hannah Bigelow?? Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 08:17:41 GMT To: [email protected]

Hi Robert and gang:

At this page of your descendant register, you have:

http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/john/john19.html#id10207

5. Daniel4 Warren (Elizabeth3Whitney, John2, John1); b. 30 Apr 1686 Watertown, Middlesex, MA; m. Hannah Bigelow 24 May 1711 Watertown, Middlesex, MA; m. Mehitable Garfield 15 Nov 1717 Watertown, Middlesex, MA; d. before Nov 1733 Watertown, Middlesex, MA.

I have found on the web, at this address, this citation:

http://members.aol.com/gfsbrenda/Warren.html

Notes for DANIEL WARREN: from "Waltham as a Precinct of Watertown and as a Town 1630-1884" by Edmund L. Sanderson

"John and Daniel, sons of Ensign John Warren, bought in 1710 from John Coolidge 56 acres, the southern parts of lots 29 and 30 in the first squadron. Daniel seemingly bought his brother's half although the transaction is not recorded.

The Daniel Warren who lived at this place is stated by Bond to have been the son of Daniel and Elizabeth (Whitney) Warren, born in 1686. This is an evident mistake for that Daniel was the one who married Rebecca Garfield, moved to Marlborough and then to Westboro where he was living when he was made administrator of his fathers estate in Weston near Kendall Green.

Daniel of the West Precinct was Great grandson of John the pioneer, grandson of Daniel and son of Ensign John. He married Hannah Biglow in 1711 and second, in 1717, Mehitabel Garfield.

He died early in 1731 but his widow lived on the homestead until her death in 1782, age ninety-three. John Viles, a son-in-law, acquired a considerable part of the estate, buying from Daniel Warren, Jr. in 1786. In 1800 he sold the place to Solomon Harrington."

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From: [email protected] (Norris) Subject: Which Daniel Warren Married Hannah Bigelow?? Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 08:21:41 GMT To: [email protected]

Hi Robert and gang:

At this page of your descendant register, you have:

5. Daniel4 Warren (Elizabeth3Whitney, John2, John1); b. 30 Apr 1686 Watertown, Middlesex, MA; m. Hannah Bigelow 24 May 1711 Watertown, Middlesex, MA; m.

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I forgot to add the followup question:

If the wrong Daniel is here.... what about the kids?? Are they of Whitney blood??

Norris

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Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 12:14:27 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Which Daniel Warren Married Hannah Bigelow?? To: [email protected]

At 08:17 AM 11/6/98 GMT, Norris wrote: > >Hi Robert and gang: > >At this page of your descendant register, you have: > >http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/john/john19.html#id10207 > > >5. Daniel4 Warren (Elizabeth3Whitney, John2, John1); b. 30 Apr 1686 >Watertown, Middlesex, MA; m. Hannah Bigelow 24 May 1711 Watertown, >Middlesex, MA; m. Mehitable Garfield 15 Nov 1717 Watertown, Middlesex, >MA; d. before Nov 1733 Watertown, Middlesex, MA. > >I have found on the web, at this address, this citation: > >http://members.aol.com/gfsbrenda/Warren.html > > >Notes for DANIEL WARREN: >from "Waltham as a Precinct of Watertown and as a Town 1630-1884" >by Edmund L. Sanderson > >"John and Daniel, sons of Ensign John Warren, bought in 1710 >from John Coolidge 56 acres, the southern parts of lots 29 and 30 >in the first squadron. Daniel seemingly bought his brother's half >although the transaction is not recorded. > >The Daniel Warren who >lived at this place is stated by Bond to have been the son of Daniel >and Elizabeth (Whitney) Warren, born in 1686. This is an evident >mistake for that Daniel was the one who married Rebecca Garfield, >moved to Marlborough and then to Westboro where he was living when >he was made administrator of his fathers estate in Weston near >Kendall Green. > >Daniel of the West Precinct was Great grandson of >John the pioneer, grandson of Daniel and son of Ensign John. He >married Hannah Biglow in 1711 and second, in 1717, Mehitabel Garfield. > >He died early in 1731 but his widow lived on the homestead until her >death in 1782, age ninety-three. John Viles, a son-in-law, acquired >a considerable part of the estate, buying from Daniel Warren, Jr. >in 1786. In 1800 he sold the place to Solomon Harrington." > >___________________ > >Comments??? > >-- >Silver Bullet <[email protected]> >Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html >---------------------------------------

Norris et al.,

There were two Daniel WARREN individuals, first cousins, of nearly the same age:

1. Daniel-4 WARREN, b. 30 Apr 1686, Watertown, son of Daniel-3 and Elizabeth (WHITNEY) WARREN, [Daniel-2, John-1]; and 2. Daniel-4 WARREN bapt. 1 Sep 1689, Watertown, son of Ensign John-3 and Mary (BROWN) WARREN [Daniel-2, John-1].

There are two marriages to assign them to:

A. One m. 26 Feb 1711/2, Watertown, Rebecca GARFIELD, and had Daniel, Rebecca, Timothy, Jonas, and Silas; he m.(2) 22 Aug 1727, Westboro, Mary WETHERBY, and had Moses, Nahum, Mary, Submit, Jonathan, and Submit; and B. The other m.(1) 24 May 1711, Watertown, Hannah BIGELOW, and had Samuel, Hannah, and Daniel; he m.(2) 15 Nov 1717, Watertown, Mehitabel GARFIELD, and had Mehitabel, Lydia, Ruth, Asa, Elijah, and Mary.

There is very little evidence to support identifying 1=B and 2=A, as Bond has done, and equally little to support 1=A and 2=B. Little evidence, that is, until the above quote from Sanderson! The citation to deeds and probate records is persuasive, at least to me, until the original documents can be examined.

John VILES is treated in Bond, and he married Hannah WARREN, 1 Nov 1775. This could not have been the Hannah, dau. of Daniel-4 and Hannah (BIGELOW) WARREN, who was b. 28 Apr 1715, Watertown, since John VILES was b. 12 Jun 1750, Weston, and was therefore 35 years her junior! Besides, she is said by Bond to have married, 17 Feb 1731/2, Watertown, John BEMIS. John VILES's father, another John VILES, d. 4 Feb 1774, so could not have contracted the WARREN marriage. It seems clear that John VILES was not a son-in-law of either Daniel-4 WARREN. Bond says that his wife was daughter of John-5 and Sarah (HARRINGTON) WARREN [Dea. John-4, Ens. John-3, Daniel-2, John-1], b. 10 Apr 1755, Weston, which is more logical. That would make John VILES the husband of Daniel-4 WARREN's niece.

Apparently Solomon HARRINGTON who bought the property was not closely related to the above Sarah (HARRINGTON) WARREN.

My conclusion is that 1=A and 2=B, as indicated by Sanderson.

Thanks are due to Norris for calling this to our attention!

Regards,

Robert

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From: "Eleanore Dilello" <[email protected]> Subject: Whitneys in Windham County VT Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 08:50:24 -0500 To: [email protected]

Dear everyone:

I went to the Library in Southport, CT,

the name of the book I found the Whitneys in is:

GAZETTEER

     AND

BUSINESS DIRECTORY

    OF

WINDHAM COUNTY VT.,

  1724-1884

Compiled and published by HAMILTON CHILD

Town of Guildford, Windham County VT

Guilford lies in the southeastern part of the county, bounded north by Brattleboro, east by Vernon, south by Mass. and west by Halifax. It was originally chartered by New Hampshire, April 2, 1754 to 54 proprietors, principally of Massachusetts, containing an area of 23,040 acres. Relative to this grant etc., Thompson, in his Gazetteer of Vermont says

"when granted, the town was a perfect wilderness, yet by the charter the grantees were to hold their first meeting for the choice of officers, etc. on the first of May 1654 and on the first tuesday of march, ever afterwards. It seems the town was first organized by and under the very grant itself. Power was given to the grantees to transact the business of the town as a majority shall see fit, subject only to the control of the parliament of England. Their greatest object was to procure and encourage settlers. Their meetings were held at Greenfield, Northfield, Hinsdale or Brattleboro and 1765, when their first meeting was held at Guilford. >From the time the charter was confirmed in 1764, the town began to be rapidly settled by emigrants from Mass and other New England states. Through the policy of the original proprietors, the first settlers began upon lots of 50 acres, in order to fulfill the condition of the grant. so rapid was increase of population, that the town soon became the largest in the state as to numbers.

the surface of the township is hilly, but not mountainous, the only mountain being Gov. Mountain. East Mountain, so-called extending the whole length of the town, north and south, is the largest hill. It is about one mile wide descending gradually to the east and south. the soil is naturally rich and dep, with a sufficient mixture of earth to make it warm, and, at the same time, prevents its leaching. The lower lands and plateaus from excellent farms for tillage, while the hills afford fine grazing lands. the natural growth of timber is principally maple, hemlock, walnut, beach, birch, ash, butternut, elm and boxwood. Occasionally black oak, locust and sycamores are found. the green river flows a southerly course through the western part of the territory, while braod brook, a smaller stream flows easterly through the northern parts. There are 2 small streams, branches of Broad brook, which run north, on through the center of the town, and the other at the foot of East mountain, on the west side. On both of the former are fine mill-sites.

In 1880 Guilford had a population of 1,096. The first and only Whitney listed at the beginning in 1772 was a

Ephraim Whitney

Many of the early settlers in Guildford came from Rehoboth Mass and Groton CT

There is more and I will attempt to bring more as time goes by:

These names are from the index of the gazettee of all of the towns in Windham County VT. by Charles D. Townsend

AARON OF JAMAICA 1791 ABIAL SON OF TIMOTHY ATHENS 1882 AMOS GUILFORD VT 1772 BETSEY DAU. OF SAMUEL BRILLANA DAU. OF MOSES BRUTUS M SON OF EMORY EDWIN D. SON OF JOSIAH ELBERT W. BRATTLEBORO 1880, VERNON 1884

                      GUIFORD  1884

ELIPHALET MARLBORO, VT EMORY SON OF NATHANIEL MARLBORO VT

EPHRAIM GUILFORD VT 1772 GUILFORD SON OF SAMUEL HARRIET MARIA DAU OF NATHANIEL HIRAM BROOKLINE VT SON OF TIMOTHY JOHN ROCKINGHAM, VT 1777 JONAS FROM SHREWSBURY, MA TO MARLBORO VT

                      1769 TO OHIO

JONAS ASHBY MA 1818 HAD JOSIAH DAVID JONATHAN GRAFTON VT 1754 JOSIAH SON OF JONAS P. B 7 NOV. 1818 ASHBY MA TO SPRINGFIELD MA 1844 FITCHBURG MA 1851, WORCESTER MA 1851 BRATTLEVORO VT 1865 HAD EDWIN D

KATE DAU. OF SAMUEL LEMUEL BRATTLEBORO VT LEMUEL WINDHAM CO 1796 LEMUEL BRATTLEBORO VT 1832 WIFE SOPHIA LEMUEL GUILFORD VT 1884 LUCY MARLBORO VT WIFE OF JONATHAN SMITH MOSES MARLBORO VT MOSES SON OF SAMUEL NATHANIEL FROM SHREWSBURY MA TO MARLBORO VT 1769 M MARY HOUGHTON NATHANIEL SON OF ABOVE PHEBE DAU OF SAMUEL RALPH SON OF TIMOTHY THENS VT 1882 RICHARD WINDHAM CO VT 1794 RICHARD GUILFORD VT SAMUEL FROM SHREWSBURY MA TO MARLBORO VT

                     HAD MOSES, GUILFORD, SIMEON, ZENAS BETSEY,

PHEBE, KATE SIMEON SON OF SAMUEL

SOLOMON F. TIMOTHY WINDHAM CO VT 1823 JUDGE TIMOTHY H WILTON NH BROOKLINE VT ATHENS VT RALPH SON OF TIMOTHY ZENAS SON OF SAMUEL ZENAS SON OF MOSES

THAT'S ALL THERE IS NOT REALLY ANY GENEALOGY JUST NAMES, however, in the details of the gazetteer some times the age is listed or the occupation. If you have any of these questions, I would be more than happy to answer them for you on the above listed Whitneys. There is some info on individuals which I will try to post periodically as time permits.

Eleanore Dilello

From: "Eleanore Dilello" <[email protected]> Subject: Whitneys in Windham County VT Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 09:00:08 -0500 To: [email protected]

>From the Gazetteer and Business Directory of Windham County, Vermont by Hamilton Child 1724-1884

Town of ATHENS, Windham County, VT

MAJOR TIMOTHY H. WHITNEY, a native of Wilton, N.H., took command of a regiment during the war of 1812, and was present at the battle of Plattsburgh, though he arrived too late to take an active part in the engagement. He afterwards settled in Brookline VT and subsequently in this town (Athens VT) Three of his 10 children are living, Ralph and Abial in Athens, and Hiram in Brookline.

FROM TOWN OF BRATTLEBORO VT

J.D. WHITNEY & SON, organ reed manufacturers.- JOSIAH DAVIS WHITNEY was born in ASHBY, MASS, November 7, 1818. when old enough to use tools(perhaps fifteen or sixteen) he began to work in the shop of his father, Jonas P. Whitney, who was a manufacturer of church organs. when 21 years of age he was takeninto partnership and continued to make church organs until 1844, when he removed to SPRINGFIELD, MASS, and engaged in the mfg of melodeons, pianos and church organs. In 1851, he removed to FITCHBURG, MASS. where he was employed by his father in making melodeons or reed organs. He removed to WORCESTER, MASS. in 1853 where he formed a partnership with Messrs. Rice & Robinson, for the manufacturing of organ reeds. He remained in Worcester only one year and then went back to Fitchburg, and soon after got up a set of reed machinery and commenced making reeds. In 1865 Messrs J. Estey & Co. of BRATTLEBORO purchased the machinery, and Mr. Whitney was hired by them to run it. He remained with this company until 1874, the last 8 years working by contract when he sold them the machinery he had invented during his stay with them, and for a year or two went out of business. About 1876 he commenced a new set of machinery with which he began to make reeds in 1878 in Harmony block. July 1 1879 he took his son EDWIN D. WHITNEY into partnership under the firm name of J.D. Whitney & Son. They are now located in Harmony block and mfg over 1/2 million organ reeds a year which are almost entirely used by the Wilcox & White Organ Co. of Meriden, CONNECTICUT.

Eleanore Dilello [email protected]

From: [email protected] Subject: Whitney's in Vermont Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 16:59:48 -0000 To: [email protected]

Norris,

  Have you found anything on Abel and Ann Whitney?  I found a 1788 land

deed for Abel in Guilford with land bordering on Marlborough. I keep wondering how I'm going to make the connection to the other Whitney families!?

  Do you know what religion most Whitney's who moved to Vermont were?  Or

anything that might help me connect them to their families? Thanks! Jeri Williams

From: [email protected] (Norris) Subject: Re: Whitneys in Windham County VT Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 20:10:33 GMT References: <002001be0a55$9313d140$9f214f0c@jashome2> To: [email protected]

On Sat, 7 Nov 1998 08:50:24 -0500, you wrote:

> >the name of the book I found the Whitneys in is: > >GAZETTEER AND BUSINESS DIRECTORY OF WINDHAM COUNTY VT., > 1724-1884 >Compiled and published by HAMILTON CHILD >Town of Guildford, Windham County VT

Additionally, genealogylibrary.com (a pay service thru FTM's web site) has the History of Marlborough, Vermont in its database now. A long string of Whitney sketches... including....

>NATHANIEL FROM SHREWSBURY MA TO MARLBORO VT 1769 M MARY HOUGHTON

We must be related! Our minds working on the same topic at the same time! I have just put up a bio of Nathaniel, who is: (check me on this): John > John > Nathaniel > Nathaniel > Samuel... m Molly Moughton. It is at:

http://members.aol.com/ntgen/baldwin/index.html#Whitney

under "Subsequent Generations"

Norris

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From: "Eleanore Dilello" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Whitneys in Windham County VT Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 17:02:43 -0500 To: [email protected]

Dear Norris:

You have a great web site. Actually I share many families with MOMs genealogy.

Reynolds, Rogers, Bemis, Morse, Cutter, Warren, Hagar, Whitney

That is interesting that we are looking at VT

cheerio

Eleanore Dilello

From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 02:56:10 EST Subject: Missing years of Charles-7 & Sarah (Howard) WHITNEY To: [email protected]

Dear NE- and Whitney researchers:

I am writing to inquire whether anyone can point me to a source that will explain why Charles-7 Whitney (Jonas-6, Jonas-5, David-4, Benjamin-3, John-2, John-1), who married Sarah Howard in Westminster, Worcester, MA, on 8 May 1823 in Westminster had no children in that community until nearly seven years later? Were they somewhere else between the marriage date and 4 Feb 1830, when their son, Charles Orlando Whitney, was born in Westminster? If so, where? I have the Whitney records extracted for nearly 180 different MA towns in several wp files, and a search for Charles Whitneys left me without finding them anywhere.

The five children born in Westminster to Charles and Sally Whitney are: Charles Orlando, b. 4 Feb 1830 Merell, b. 24 Dec 1731 Henry, b. 4 Mar 1834 Sarah Howard, b. 23 Jun 1836 William Harrison, b. 16 Jan 1840

Since the wife's name in these records is given as Sally, I had given some thought to this being the wrong couple, until I found the fourth child and decided that naming this child Sarah Howard strongly suggested that the name Sally was being used as a "nickname" for Sarah Howard Whitney. There is, of course, another possible explanation -- that Sarah Howard had not been able to bear children and had died prior to 1830 with Charles remarrying a woman named Sally (--?--), and tribute being paid to the first wife by naming the first and only daughter in her honor. There are no vital records in Westminster to support this latter possibility.

Any suggestions or assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Allan E. Green

From: janet <[email protected]> Subject: Wisconsin Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 07:04:09 -0500 To: [email protected]

Does anyone know anything about the Whitney's in Wisconsin, when they went there, who went there and why?

Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 06:17:25 -0600 From: Margie and George Parker <[email protected]> Subject: Timothy Whitney of Athens VT To: [email protected]

On Nov 7, Eleanore Dilello <[email protected]> shared with us some info she gleaned from some Vermont Gazeteers and Directories. One name that showed up a couple of times was Timothy H. Whitney. If you are interested in him, you might want to check TAG vol 52 #2 page 117-119 where there is an article on Ebenezer Whitney (Tim Doyle <[email protected]> shared this with us on July 4).

The TAG article says the line from John and Elinor to Timothy is as follows (with more data)

John 1 Richard 2 Ebenezer 3 Israel 4 Richard 5 Timothy 6

In particular, the article disputes Pierce on the parents of the Israel who was the father of Richard.

I have the following **unverified** data on Timothy:

b 21 Nov 1776 Wilton NH m 11 Feb 1800 Abigail Blanchard, Wilton NH d 16 Mar 1859 Athens VT

ch:

Timothy, 1800 Hiram, 1804 Sarah Blanchard, 20 Feb 1806 (my gg-grandmother) Abial, 20 Feb 1806 Roxana, 11 Nov 1809 Charles, 17 Sep 1811 Unity, 1813 Ralph, 8 Apr 1817 Abigail, 8 Apr 1819 Jane, 16 Jun 1821

Timothy H. Whitney was named for his grandfather Timothy Holt who traces back to Nicholas the immigrant. Timothy Holt's mother was an Abbott of the Andover Abbotts. Abigail Blanchard's family can be traced back to 17th century immigrants also.

George Parker (6 or 7 lines of descent from John and Elinor)

From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:45:47 EST Subject: Michigan Whitneys, Jackson County To: [email protected]

I received this message from a Ms. Dianne Oslund, who had posted a query at my request in Jackson County, Michigan regarding Whitneys. It might be useful to anyone researching Michigan Whitneys. A. Whitney Brown

>From [email protected] November 8, 1998

Dear Diane, I saw your inquirey regarding Ezra Whitney on Jackson site. You might find his obit in the Jackson Citizen Patriot. It is on microfilm at Jackson Library on Michigan Ave. or get it through inter-loan through your local library at no charge. There is one cemetery in Spring Arbor named the Spring Arbor Cemetery right in town. Also one on Reynolds Rd which is south east of Spring Arbor named the Reynolds or [Crouch] Cemetery. [Section 26 Spring Arbor Twp.] Also found following info regarding other Whitney's in book written about Rives Twp. called "The Cornerstone Township" on pg. 236. Book available at Jackson Library. Obadiah Whitney was son of Captain Whitney. He was B. in New York. In 1844 he came to MI and bought land in Rives Twp., Section 2. He had five children: Lorenzo Dow, George, a Civil War Veteran, Mary, who married Wm. J. Austin, Electra J. who married Philo B. Abbey, and Sally P. who married Theodore N. Peck. Lorenzo Dow Whitney married Maria Barnes in 1853. She died the following year and his second wife was Mary A. Craddock. He died Dec. 1, 1901 at the age of 72. His second wife died in 1891 at the age of 52. They had five children: Frank, B.Aug. 11, 1859; Chas. died at age two and one-half yrs; Homer L., a farmer and also taught school many yrs; Jennie E. married Merritt Abbey; and Mary N. married Milner Barber. Frank Whitney married Miss Rosa M. Stitt, daughter of John Stitt on Oct. 11, 1887. They had no children. He lived on his farm on Section 3 on Lansing Ave. until he retired and moved to Leslie. Hope this is of some help in your search. Know how I feel when I put an inquirey on-line. Good luck! Sandy Phillips

Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:47:47 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Missing Whitney information To: [email protected]

At 12:04 PM 11/11/98 EST, Kathy Whitney Conlin <[email protected]> wrote: >Hello, I am descended from John and Elinor Whitney in the following line: >John, Thomas, Thomas, Benjamin, Samuel, etc. >In your ancestry, you've listed Samuel and Abigail Cutler as having only eight >children. I have records of there actually being 16 children. I am descended >from the 16th child, Eben or Ebeneezer. My list of Samuel and Abigail's >children is as follows: >Samuel, b 7/15/1759 >David, b 8/14/1761 (Married Betsy Derby 7/1/1786 - you didn't have this info) >Benjamin, b 4/11/1763 >Anna, b. 7/30/1764 >George, b. 9/22/1765 >James, b. 12/1/1766 >Abigail, b. 4/22/1768 >Samuel Austin and Lydia, twins, b. 1/19/1769 >Joseph, b. 9/27/1771 >William, b. 11/13/1772 >John, b. 12/19/1773 >Cyrus, b. 12/24/1774 >Sarah, b. 2/2/1776 >Polly, b. 9/14/1777 >Eben or Ebenezer, b. 3/17/1780: m. 8/27/1807, Bathsheba Heston, dau. of col. >Thomas Heston > >From Ebenezer and Bathsheba, descended the "Big Three Whitneys", Thomas, >Samuel and Eben and two daughters living to adulthood. They were of the >Glassboro, New Jersey and Whitney Brothers Glassworks fame and there are many >glassworks artifacts in museums there and some of the Whitney homes are >included in the Gloucester County Historical Society Tour of Homes. >My information comes from "Colonial Families of the United States", don't have >author; "The Glassboro Story", don't have author and a thesis written by >Marilyn Plasket of Salem New Jersey who is or was Heritage Glass Museum >President and also from several family members' own family histories such as >Gertrude Vanderbilt Whitney. >I have, of course, much more information if you are interested. A notable >Whitney descendant from Ebenezer Whitney is: >John, Thomas, Thomas, Benjamin, Samuel, Ebeneezer, Eben, Henry Clay, Harry - >who was the father of Nancy Whitney who changed her name to Whitney Blake (a >stage name), who is the mother of Meredith Baxter (Birney), a fairly >successful tv actress who starred in Family, Bridget loves Birney, and Family >Ties. My father was Harry Whitney, the sister of Nancy. >Let me know if you are interested in what information I have.........I am new >to genealogy but feel my records are legitimate. >Thanks, Kathy Whitney Conlin

Kathy,

Thanks for sending this information. Naturally not only I, but all the Whitney Research Group on WHITNEY-L mailing list are interested! I have taken the liberty of posting this to the list. Whatever information you can contribute would be gladly accepted. If it is in the form of a GEDCOM file, send it to Jon Aston <[email protected]>. If it is ASCII text, you can either send it to me or to [email protected]. All data on WHITNEY descendants is gratefully accepted.

Were the younger children born in Castine, ME, where Samuel-5 WHITNEY removed? If not, then where?

I notice in the Belfast, ME, vital records, the marriage of Ebnezar WHITNEY of Castine and Elizabeth Wetham of Castine, July 15, 1801. Was this a first marriage for your Eben/Ebenezer-6 WHITNEY?

The connection with Meredith Baxter (Birney) is interesting! Perhaps I should post that lineage on my Famous Whitney Persons page

<http://www.erols.com/whitney/famous.html>. Your opinion is requested.

Regards,

Robert

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From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:21:53 EST Subject: Re: Michigan Whitneys, Jackson County To: [email protected]

AWhitney,

    Are you searching for Whitney's in Michigan.?  I am also.  My ggrandfather

DANIEL R WHITNEY b. Ohio or NY m. Isyphena DOW (surname) in Jackson, Michigan 1847. Both DANIEL R.(age27) were on the 1850 census as was a neighbor ISRAEL WHITNEY (Age 30) b. Ohio and his wife Melissa.

         We have been looking for decades for the given name of Daniel's father who

was a professor and went to Michigan to establish schools. In nn article in "Progressive men of Iowa" his son states that they were in Rives, Jackson, Michigan. However so far I have been unable to find any connection with the Whitneys in your message. They were both in that area about the same time. The Obediah Whitney (of Rives twsp, Jackson Mi) family is on the Whitney- John and Elinor database Barbara Crowder Black (granddaughter of Rosina Whitney and ggranddaughter of DANIEL R. Whitney),

    Thank you for forwarding the information.  SOMEDAY we will find them..

Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:19:40 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: J. Whitney in Revolution To: [email protected]

At 07:51 PM 11/11/98 -0800, you wrote: >I have found a claim that Jonathan Whitney (1734-1800), married to Eunice >Marshall, was a soldier in the Revolution. Does anyone have confirmation of >this? > >Also, is anything known about his wife, Eunice Marshall - her parents? > >Thanks, >Margaret Cass >[email protected]

Margaret,

The D.A.R. Patriot Index makes this claim, too. (See the following URL: <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/military/dar/patriots.html>.) It also claims two other Jonathan WHITNEY individuals from MA were soldiers. _Massachusetts Soldiers and Sailors in the War of the Revolution_ lists 13 Jonathan WHITNEY soldiers.

I have no information about Eunice MARSHALL.

Regards,

Robert

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:51:53 -0800 (PST) From: Margaret Cass <[email protected]> Subject: J. Whitney in Revolution To: [email protected]

I have found a claim that Jonathan Whitney (1734-1800), married to Eunice Marshall, was a soldier in the Revolution. Does anyone have confirmation of this?

Also, is anything known about his wife, Eunice Marshall - her parents?

Thanks, Margaret Cass [email protected]

From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:37:58 EST Subject: Your additions to the Whitney family data To: [email protected]

Dear Kathy:

I want to add my thanks to that which you received from Robert Ward. We of the WRG are very interested in adding to or correcting the information we have on the various branches of our huge family of descendants. I am also very pleased that you indicate that you will be able to show sources for the additions that you are passing on to the rest of us.

I do know that our data tends to focus quite strongly on the MA and New England portions of the family -- a situation that is understandable given the availability of excellent early records in those places. Any additions that broaden our knowledge of Whitneys in other locations will inevitably open up new avenues for research for many of our members, and may prove invaluable to those of us who are currently in the category of "unconnected Whitneys" -- i.e., those who have traced their ancestry back several generations but have yet to connect with one of the known immigrant ancestors.

If I or any of the other listmembers can help you in expanding our knowledge of these, your line of ancestors, please feel free to call on us for help.

Sincerely,

Allan E. Green

Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 08:43:44 -0600 From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]> Subject: WHITNEY Brides in Maine before 1892 To: [email protected]

The following are from the Maine Marriages Before 1892, USGenWeb Archives (http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/me/marriage/marriage.html). I didn't see a link to a groom index for surnames beginning with the letter 'W', but here are the brides:

ME Brides Taken from Cards the Maine State Archives-Surname W

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, ADDIE
       Bride Town      HALLOWELL
       Bride State     ME
       Groom Name      BLAISDELL, W. E.
       Groom Town      HALLOWELL
       Groom State     ME
       Month of Marriage       8
       Day of Marriage 23
       Year of Marriage        1890
       More Info?      N
       Place of Marriage       HALLOWELL
       Comment -0-

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, ELIZA
       Bride Town      HALLOWELL
       Bride State     ME
       Groom Name      BANGS, JONATHAN
       Groom Town      MONMOUTH
       Groom State     ME
       Month of Marriage       1
       Day of Marriage 9
       Year of Marriage        1848
       More Info?      N
       Place of Marriage       HALLOWELL
       Comment INTENTION FILED 1/9/1848.

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, ELLEN D.
       Bride Town      CASCO
       Bride State     ME
       Groom Name      BARTLETT, GEORGE E.
       Groom Town      ELLIOT
       Groom State     ME
       Month of Marriage       12
       Day of Marriage 31
       Year of Marriage        1863
       More Info?      N
       Place of Marriage       PORTLAND
       Comment -0-

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, ETTA
       Bride Town      MILO
       Bride State     ME
       Groom Name      CHASE, ALDEN L.
       Groom Town      ATKINSON
       Groom State     ME
       Month of Marriage       12
       Day of Marriage 24
       Year of Marriage        1891
       More Info?      N
       Place of Marriage       MILO
       Comment INTENTION FILED 12/16/1891.

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, ETTA H.
       Bride Town      DEERING
       Bride State     ME

       Groom Name      BOULTER, HENRY C.
       Groom Town      DEERING
       Groom State     ME
       Month of Marriage       9
       Day of Marriage 5
       Year of Marriage        1891
       More Info?      N
       Place of Marriage       DEERING
       Comment -0-

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, HANNAH
       Bride Town      -0-
       Bride State     -0-
       Groom Name      CLAY, JOHN
       Groom Town      LINCOLN
       Groom State     ME
       Month of Marriage       4
       Day of Marriage 12
       Year of Marriage        1853
       More Info?      N
       Place of Marriage       LINCOLN
       Comment -0-

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, HANNAH
       Bride Town      GORHAM
       Bride State     ME
       Groom Name      BROWN, JOSEPH
       Groom Town      GORHAM
       Groom State     ME
       Month of Marriage       12
       Day of Marriage 16
       Year of Marriage        1768
       More Info?      N
       Place of Marriage       GORHAM
       Comment INTENTION FILED 12/15/1768.

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, HANNAH C.
       Bride Town      PORTLAND
       Bride State     ME
       Groom Name      BELL, SAMUEL H.
       Groom Town      PORTLAND
       Groom State     ME
       Month of Marriage       9
       Day of Marriage 19
       Year of Marriage        1848
       More Info?      N
       Place of Marriage       PORTLAND
       Comment -0-

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, HELEN F.
       Bride Town      BRADFORD
       Bride State     ME
       Groom Name      ARNOLD, JOSEPH T.
       Groom Town      BRADFORD
       Groom State     ME
       Month of Marriage       9
       Day of Marriage 12
       Year of Marriage        1863
       More Info?      N
       Place of Marriage       BRADFORD
       Comment -0-

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, ISABEL B.
       Bride Town      PORTLAND
       Bride State     ME
       Groom Name      ARMSTRONG, CHARLES
       Groom Town      PORTLAND
       Groom State     ME
       Month of Marriage       4
       Day of Marriage 6
       Year of Marriage        1845
       More Info?      N
       Place of Marriage       PORTLAND
       Comment -0-

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, JENNIE E.
       Bride Town      THOMASTON
       Bride State     ME
       Groom Name      BURNS, CHARLES P.
       Groom Town      ROCKLAND
       Groom State     ME
       Month of Marriage       2
       Day of Marriage 24
       Year of Marriage        1866
       More Info?      N
       Place of Marriage       ROCKLAND
       Comment INTENTION FILED 2/19/1866.

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, LILLIAN E.
       Bride Town      RANDOLPH
       Bride State     ME
       Groom Name      BLAIR, CHARLES A.
       Groom Town      RANDOLPH
       Groom State     ME
       Month of Marriage       12
       Day of Marriage 24
       Year of Marriage        1890
       More Info?      N
       Place of Marriage       FARMINGDALE
       Comment -0-

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, LOIS
       Bride Town      LEEDS
       Bride State     ME
       Groom Name      BISHOP, JAMES L.
       Groom Town      LEEDS
       Groom State     ME
       Month of Marriage       1
       Day of Marriage 25
       Year of Marriage        1821
       More Info?      Y
       Place of Marriage       LEEDS
       Comment -0-

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, LUCY MRS.
       Bride Town      NEW SHARON
       Bride State     ME
       Groom Name      BAILEY, LUTHUR
       Groom Town      NEW SHARON
       Groom State     ME
       Month of Marriage       7
       Day of Marriage 4
       Year of Marriage        1844
       More Info?      N
       Place of Marriage       NEW SHARON
       Comment -0-

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, LYDIA
       Bride Town      -0-
       Bride State     -0-
       Groom Name      BURNELL, JOHN
       Groom Town      -0-
       Groom State     -0-
       Month of Marriage       7
       Day of Marriage 3
       Year of Marriage        1766
       More Info?      N
       Place of Marriage       GORHAM
       Comment -0-

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, MARTHA M.
       Bride Town      LISBON
       Bride State     ME
       Groom Name      BLETHEN, WAITSTILL D.
       Groom Town      DURHAM
       Groom State     ME
       Month of Marriage       6
       Day of Marriage 16
       Year of Marriage        1860
       More Info?      N
       Place of Marriage       DURHAM
       Comment -0-

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, MARY ANN
       Bride Town      GORHAM
       Bride State     ME
       Groom Name      BUTTERFIELD, MOSES
       Groom Town      PORTLAND
       Groom State     ME
       Month of Marriage       9
       Day of Marriage 12
       Year of Marriage        1850
       More Info?      N
       Place of Marriage       PORTLAND
       Comment INTENTION FILED 9/12/1850.

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, NABBY
       Bride Town      STROUDWATER
       Bride State     ME
       Groom Name      BOUCHER, ABRAHAM
       Groom Town      PORTLAND
       Groom State     ME
       Month of Marriage       4
       Day of Marriage 12
       Year of Marriage        1807
       More Info?      N
       Place of Marriage       PORTLAND
       Comment MARRIAGE INTENTIONS 4/12/1807.

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, RHODA L.
       Bride Town      OTISFIELD
       Bride State     ME
       Groom Name      BEAN, ANSEL
       Groom Town      OTISFIELD
       Groom State     ME
       Month of Marriage       7
       Day of Marriage 4
       Year of Marriage        1865
       More Info?      N
       Place of Marriage       OTISFIELD
       Comment -0-

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, SARAH J.
       Bride Town      HALLOWELL
       Bride State     ME
       Groom Name      BOWEN, ZIMIE H.
       Groom Town      HALLOWELL
       Groom State     ME
       Month of Marriage       4
       Day of Marriage 27
       Year of Marriage        1855
       More Info?      N
       Place of Marriage       HALLOWELL
       Comment -0-

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, SARAH J.
       Bride Town      HALLOWELL
       Bride State     ME
       Groom Name      BROWN, ZINA
       Groom Town      HALLOWELL
       Groom State     ME
       Month of Marriage       4
       Day of Marriage 27
       Year of Marriage        1855
       More Info?      N
       Place of Marriage       HALLOWELL
       Comment -0-

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, SARAH L.
       Bride Town      -0-
       Bride State     -0-
       Groom Name      BROOKS, JOSEPH H.
       Groom Town      -0-
       Groom State     -0-
       Month of Marriage       6
       Day of Marriage 20
       Year of Marriage        1863
       More Info?      N
       Place of Marriage       WEST GARDINER
       Comment INTENTION FILED 6/16/1863.

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, SARAH M.
       Bride Town      PORTLAND
       Bride State     ME
       Groom Name      BURGES, JOHN A.
       Groom Town      PORTLAND
       Groom State     ME
       Month of Marriage       5
       Day of Marriage 30
       Year of Marriage        1855
       More Info?      N
       Place of Marriage       PORTLAND
       Comment INTENTION FILED 5/30/1855.

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, SOPHIA
       Bride Town      RAYMOND
       Bride State     ME
       Groom Name      BRAY, JEFFERSON
       Groom Town      NAPLES
       Groom State     ME
       Month of Marriage       9
       Day of Marriage 19
       Year of Marriage        1847
       More Info?      N
       Place of Marriage       PORTLAND
       Comment -0-

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, SUSANNA
       Bride Town      RAYMOND
       Bride State     ME
       Groom Name      CARLTON, EZRA
       Groom Town      RAYMOND
       Groom State     ME
       Month of Marriage       12
       Day of Marriage 17
       Year of Marriage        1795
       More Info?      N
       Place of Marriage       BRIDGTON
       Comment -0-

       Bride Name      WHITNEY, TRYPHENA
       Bride Town      HALLOWELL
       Bride State     ME
       Groom Name      BANCROFT, CHARLES W.
       Groom Town      HALLOWELL
       Groom State     ME
       Month of Marriage       1
       Day of Marriage 4
       Year of Marriage        1853
       More Info?      Y
       Place of Marriage       GARDINER
       Comment -0-

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Tim Doyle http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ [email protected] ftp://ftp.doit.com/pub/tdoyle/

Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:54:27 -0500 From: Leonard Purdy <[email protected]> Subject: Joseph WHITNEY, NH, 1774 To: [email protected]

The following family descends: John (1): Jonathon (2): Joseph (3): James (4): Jonathon (5): Joseph WHITNEY (6)

7 Jun 1774

Fitzwilliam,New Hampshire

 MARRIAGE:22 Dec 1805

Sophia OLIVER

6 Dec 1784

Salem,Washington,NY

CHILDREN-------------------------------------

1.Zervah Oliver WHITNEY               1812
2.Benjamin WHITNEY                    1807
3.Abigail WHITNEY                     1808
4.George WHITNEY                      1809
5.Joseph Washington WHITNEY           1815
6.Franklin Putnam WHITNEY             1817
7.Ferdinand WHITNEY                   1819
8.Sophia WHITNEY                      1822
9.Lorin Jerome WHITNEY                1824
10.Albert WHITNEY                     1826
11.Milton WHITNEY                     1830
12.George WHITNEY                     1831

Most of the children were born in Fulton Co. NY

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I have accumulated the ancestors of Joseph that trace to John, the Immigrant. I am interested in pursuing the descendants. I have information on some of the children and will be happy to share what I have with anyone who might connect to this family. My primary interest is Zerviah.

Ozzi [email protected]

From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:39:49 EST Subject: Binghamton, Broome Co., NY To: [email protected]

Does anyone know the names of the "two brothers Whitney" who were early settlers in Binghamton? Thank you, Shirley

From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:16:30 EST Subject: Witney13 To: [email protected]

Hello All,

I have distributed Witney13.GED to the members that requested it. If anyone who has requested hasn't received it, please let me know and I'll send you the information that you'll need to retrive it. Anyone who hasn't requested the GEDCOM and would like to have a copy, please write me and I'll send you the information also.

Keep in touch

Jon Aston

From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:05:16 EST Subject: Whitney Church and Cemetery Records To: [email protected]

While doing some research on my Whitney line I found some Whitney info I thought I'd pass along. This line of Whitneys descend from John & Elinor {John>Jonathon>John>James>James>John>Ezra>Ezra>Henry}

>From the record Books of Church of the Ascension, West New Brighton, Staten Island, NY Harold Whitney confirmed January 10, 1897 age 15 Marjorie Hurd Whitney baptism October 21, 1900 Richard E. Whitney (age 38) married Alice A. Massa Oct. 6, 1906 Bradford Whitney died february 11, 1909 Anna E. Whitney died Apr. 28, 1912 (age 42)

from a family Bible dated 1867 marriages: at Brooklyn, NY Henry E. Whitney and Helen Camden Lester jun 12, 1867 at West New Brighton, S.I. NY Richard E. Whiney and Belle Hurd Jan 12, 1899 at West Brighton,S.I. NY Louise Hunt Whitney and Martin Austin Carpenter Nov 22, 1899 births: Richard Elliott Whitney, Apr 21, 1868 Louise Hunt Whitney Jun 28, 1870 Josephine Lester Whitney Nov 27, 1872 Helen Camden Whitney Jan 21, 1876 Harold Edward Whitney Aug 4,1880 Marjorie Hurd Whitney Jan 26, 1900 Helen Lester Whitney Oct 7, 1901 Deaths: Helen Camden Whitney aged 14 years May 4, 1890 Harold Edward Whitney aged 57 years Oct 21, 1897 Harold Edward Whitney 25 years, Jan 15, 1906

burials at Greenwood Cemetery brooklyn, NY Samuel Colgate Whitney died Jul 23, 1867 (child) Robert Folger Whitney (died at Albany NY) Aug. 7, 1863 aged 11mo 6 days Charles Whitney died Apr 2, 1856 (child)

Moravian Cemetery In the Whitney, Hubbard, Attebury Plot Richard Whitney 1869-Apr 8, 1938 Belle Whitney 1869- feb.3, 1903 Harold E. Whitney Jan 17, 1906

From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:22:06 EST Subject: Jemima Whitney To: [email protected]

  Would like information on:  (all from Essex Co. NY)
    Jemima Whitney b. 1840
       m. Abraham Reynolds Jr.
    Delinda Whitney  (sister of above)  1842-1916
        m. John Ferguson 1836-1909
    Russell Whitney  (father of above)
         2/2/1800 - 7/7/1881
         m. Virginia Worden  2/7/1807 - 5/7/1884

          Elizabeth W. Koenig   [email protected]

Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:44:24 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Whitney <[email protected]>

Subject: 21st CENTURY PHOTO ALBUM - courtesy Victoria Cheney (fwd) To: [email protected]

Humor or horror?

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Forwarded message ----------

Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:35:24 EST From: [email protected] To: [email protected] ...

21st CENTURY PHOTO ALBUM

A mother and little girl sit side by side, looking at pictures in the family photo album. The mother explains to little Mary:

This is the geneticist with your surrogate mother, Mommy Barbara. She's the one who carried you for nine months. We selected her as your surrogate because of her excellent health and interest in exercise and health foods -- and joyful attitude toward pregnancy.

  Let's turn the page.  Here's your Mommy Amelia. The geneticist

selected part of my DNA to merge with hers -- for her fine bone structure, her talent as a musician, and her gift for languages.

  And the woman next to her, that's Mommy Rebecca.  She provided

the ovum into which the combined female DNA was inserted. She's also your Mommy, dear. So you have four mothers, counting me.

  And now let's turn the page again.  Oh, look at this one.

Here's your sperm donor, Daddy Mark. He's standing beside Uncle John, who is your Daddy's clone. So Daddy Mark is your biological father, but of course, dear, your legal father and true Daddy is the clone I'm married to.

  Mary, I've never told you this before, but your Daddy and Uncle

John were cloned from their own father. They have the same DNA but were born six years apart. They have some other differences, too, because your Daddy's a Capricorn, and Uncle John is a Virgo.

  Now turn the page again.  Oh, Mary, how sweet.  This is me holding

you when you were just a frozen embryo. And you see those other frozen peas in the dish? Those are your brothers and sisters who haven't been gestated yet.

  Let's turn the page again.  That woman with the worried look on her

face? It's Aunt Hattie, bless her heart. She's the family genealogist.

Find more internet jokes at: http://members.aol.com/twotacky1/jokes.html

Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 03:23:26 -0500 From: DAVID J KOSHAR <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Whitneys in Windham County VT Sender: DAVID J KOSHAR <[email protected]> To: [email protected]

Hi!

  Can I jump in here??......  I am looking for a Benjamin WHITNEY who was

in Windham County in the mid to late 1700's. He married Jerusha BROCKWAY, and their first child, a daughter, was named Parnal. Can anyone help me????

  Thanks in advance for any help.

Ann (HAGER) LINT

From: "Denis Adams" <[email protected]> Subject: Whitney's in Michigan Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 12:37:20 -0500 To: [email protected]

Dear Kind People,

   I am doing research on Ami WHITNEY and his descendents who moved to MI.

A portion of what I have is ; Ami, Jonathan, Jonathan, Jonathan, Benjamin, John and Elinor, b. Jan. 12, 1781 d. Dec. 14, 1861 in Flint Creek, Genesee co. NY. Ami's son Issac b. Sept. 17, 1805 d. Oct. 17, 1876 buried Saratoga Cem. Litchfield Twp. Hillsdale co. MI. His son Milton b. Oct. 20, 1831 d. June 18, 1922 in Lenawee co. MI. His son Cecil Ira b. Oct 11, 1879 d. Feb. 27, 1931 in Albion, Calhoun co. MI. I have all his children (my aunts and uncles) and there children.

   The census information is on my web page under "my genealogy". What I am

needing is Ami's death and Issac's birth VR's. If anyone can help please contact me.

   Evidently I have messed up or missed something for I do not have Obediah

as son of Capt. Jonathan. If someone would look at my web site and tell me of my error I would be eternally grateful.

   I also want to give all members of this group a heartfelt Tank You for

all the research that has been made available to me a mere amateur. Sincerely, Denis Adams [email protected] http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/6962

Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 20:25:16 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: WHITNEY Extracts from the NEHGR, Part 10 To: [email protected]

Dear WRG,

Here are more interesting items from the _New England Historical and Genealogical Register_ on the WHITNEY family.

Enjoy!

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Walker, Catherine Beeton, "Shaker Records of Harvard, Mass.," _NEHGR_, vol. LXI (1907), pp. 341-346.

[p. 342] Nov 7 1783 Child L. Whitney [died] Mar 18 1818 [aged] 34"

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Riley, Anna Margaret, "Notes and Queries: Whitney," _NEHGR_, vol. LXI (1907), p. 395-396.

WHITNEY. -- In F. C. Pierce's "Whitney Genealogy," page 103, there is a serious error which should be corrected.

  489. ISAIAH-5 WHITNEY (Abraham-4, Isaiah-3, Thomas-2, John-1), born in

Harvard, Mass., Oct. 6, 1751, married in Concord, Mass., Feb. 28, 1776, Mary, born in Concord Mar. 17, 1756, daughter of Francis and Mary (Hayward) Wheeler.

  Their children (not mentioned in Whitney Genealogy) were:
    i. Mary Hayward, b. Mar. --, 1777.
   ii. Francis Wheeler, b. Nov. 30, 1778.
  iii. Isaiah, b. Sept. 8, 1781.
   iv. Rebecca, b. Feb. 15, 1784.
    v. Ruth, b. Apr. 17, 1786.
   vi. George, b. Dec. 16, 1788.
  vii. Amos, b. Mar. 9, 1795.
 viii. Daniel, b. Apr. 12, 1797.

  iii. ISAIAH-6 WHITNEY, Jr. (son of Isaiah-5, above), born Sept. 8, 1781,

married Sarah Newell, of Lynn, Mass.

  Their children (given to Isaiah-5 in Whitney Genealogy) were:
    i. Sarah.
   ii. Lucy.
  iii. John.

Claremont, N.H.

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Jenks, Charles William, "Some Records of Bedford, Mass.," _NEHGR_, vol. LXII (1908), pp. 157-161.

[p. 161] The following memoranda are taken from the records of Mary Pollard ("Polly" Pollard), and contain items of interest in comparison with the Stearns and Jane Pollard records. ...

 1810  Feb. 24  Mrs. elisabeth Whitney [died]

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Taylor, John Lewis, "A Private Record of Deaths in Medfield, Mass.," _NEHGR_, vol. LXII (1908), pp. 368-372.

[p. 370] Joshua Whitneys child [worn] 1766

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Pomeroy, Emma B., "A Provincial Muster Roll," _NEHGR_, vol. LXII (1908), p. 381.

The following list of names of soldiers, with their rank and residence, is from a roll endorsed "Muster Roll of Capt. Eleazar Wheelock & Compa. from Octr. 11th to Octr 31th 1723":

 Jonathan Whitney [Cent] [Wrentham]

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Stearns, Ezra Scollay, "Lovewell's Men," _NEHGR_, vol. LXIII (1909), pp. 288-296.

[p. 289] 4. JACOB FULLAM, only son of Major Francis and Sarah (Livermore) Fullam, was born at Watertown, now Weston, November 19, 1693. He enlisted from Weston, and was a sergeant of that company. He was killed at the beginning of the fight, and was buried on the field of battle. He married, February 28, 1715-16, Tabitha, born in Watertown, August 22, 1696, a daughter of Jonathan and Sarah (Hapgood) Whitney. She was a sister of Isaac Whitney, No. 41. She married secondly, April 19, 1726, George Parkhurst of Weston, who died March 17, 1734-5. She married thirdly, August 10, 1736, Samuel Hunt of Weston, and died in Harvard November 2, 1762. ... 9. THOMAS WOODS, son of Thomas and Hannah (Whitney) Woods, was born at Groton November 25, 1705. He, too, enlisted from Groton, was killed in the fight, and buried on the field. He was the youngest man of the company. ... [p. 291] 20. JOHN CHAMBERLAIN, son of Thomas and Elizabeth (Hall) Chamberlain, was born at Chelmsford March 29, 1692. The family removed to Groton about 1698, where the father and son were farmers and millers. Elizabeth, the mother, died June 13, 1699. Thomas, the father, married secondly Abigail Nutting. He was murdered at Chelmsford May 11, 1709, and in court files is described as Thomas Chamberlain of Groton, miller. John Chamberlain enlisted from Groton, and in the fight was wounded, but not seriously. On the feeble authority of an old ballad some have contended that Lieut. Seth Wyman gave the chief Paugus a fatal wound. Before it was printed Symmes's narrative was submitted to Wyman for approval, and while the author credits Wyman with killing two Indians he does not include the chilef Paugus. In another paragraph Symmes rejoices that Paugus, "who has becu such a scourge to Dunstable," was slain during the fight. That Paugus was killed by John Chamberlain is generally believed. He received from the estate of his father "two thirds of the mill, housing stream and lands in Groton." He lived in Groton, and there died, says Dr. Samuel A. Green, about 1758. He married, October 13, 1713, Abigail, daughter of Thomas and Hannah (Whitney) Woods, by whom he had six children. [p. 295] 41. ISAAC WHITNEY, son of Jonathan and Sarah (Hapgood) Whitney, was born, probably at Watertown, in 1703. His parents lived in Sherborn, Watertown, and Concord. He enlisted from Concord. He enlisted from Concord, and was one of the ten men of the company left at the fort. Subsequently he was a glazier and lived in Concord, where he died in 1754. No mention of a wife or children is found. 42. ZACHARIAH PARKER, son of Eleazer and Mary (Woods) Parker, was born at Groton January 29, 1699. He enlisted from Groton, and was one of the ten men left at the fort. He was one of the forty-seven men of Capt. Lovewell's company of the third expedition who were admitted grantees of Suncook, now Pembroke, N. H. It was one hundred and thirty-one years after the fight at Pigwacket before the name of Benjamin Hassell, intentionally omitted by Symmes, and the names of nine of the ten men left at the fort as members of the historic company were made known. The names first appeared in Chandler's Manchester, 1856. Here is found the name of Zachariah Whitney, but not of Zachariah Parker. The compiler of the Whitney Genealogy could not find a Zachariah Whitney of possible age, and honors Zaccheus Whitney with the medals of Lovewell's war. Neither Zachariah nor Zaccheus Whintey was in the expedition or a grantee of Suncook.

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Manning, William H., "The Lakin Family of Groton," _NEHGR_, vol. LXIII (1909), pp. 318-326.

[p. 324] Oliver-6 Lakin, [son of William-5 and Miriam (-----) Lakin (William-4, William-3, William-2, William-1),] b. 24 Feb 1733-4; lived in Groton and Hancock; m. 3 May 1764, SIBYL GILSON, widow of Peter, and daughter of Timothy and Sibyl (Parker) Whitney. (See deed vol. 62, p. 443, and will of Shadrach Whitney.)

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Parish, Roswell, Jr., "John Parish of Groton, Mass., and Some of His Descendants," _NEHGR_, vol. LXIII (1909), pp. 364-373.

[p. 370] John-5 Parish, [son of Lemuel-4 and Zerviah (Smith) Parish (Samuel-3, Samuel-2, John-1),] b. 11 June 1761; d. in Brooklyn, Conn., 29 Dec. 1835; m. (1) in Brooklyn, 30 May 1790, ELIZABETH WHITNEY, who d. there 6 Jan. 1802; m. (2) SARAH CHURCH. "Was Brooklyn's second lawyer."

==

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 20:30:34 EST Subject: Re: WHITNEY Brides in Maine before 1892 To: [email protected]

In a message dated 11/12/98 6:16:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, TVick65536 writes:

> Subj: Re: WHITNEY Brides in Maine before 1892 > Date: 11/12/98 6:16:42 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: TVick65536 > To: Itigapa > > In a message dated 11/12/98 10:27:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, Itigapa > writes: > > << To: [email protected] > > The following are from the Maine Marriages Before 1892, USGenWeb Archives > (http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/me/marriage/marriage.html). I didn't > see > a link to a groom index for surnames beginning with the letter 'W,' but > here are the brides: > >> > David, Can you forward this to the Whitney List... > > The records total 13,285 records of Maine Marriages prior to 1892. The > unfortunate thing that although 13,285 records seems like a lot, they only > encompass grooms A-CLAY. Who would have thought that that many women, would > have married that few men <g>! > > Please visit <http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/me/marriage/marriage.html> > > Tina > >

From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:35:04 EST Subject: WARRENS/Whitneys of Stow and Westminster, MA; ca 1770-1810 To: [email protected]

Dear Warren, Whitney and NE-Roots researchers:

    I am at a point of confusion about the origin of the Rebecca Warren who

married a Levi Whitney on 15 Oct 1799 in Westminster, Worcester, MA. There is also a marriage of a Levi Whitney to a Rebecca Warren 10 May 1804 in Stow.

The latter Levi was the son of Jacob-6 (Abraham-5, Abraham-4, Moses-3, Richard-2, John-1) and Esther (WALCOTT) Whitney, and the birthdate for this Levi of 11 Nov 1780 is consistant with a marriage in Stow in 1804. The Levi Whitney who married a Rebecca Warren in Westminster was born 1 Jan 1777, son of Abner-6 (Samuel-5, William-4, Nathaniel-3, John-2, John-1) and Elizabeth (GLAZIER) Whitney, and that birthdate is consistent with a 1799 marriage.

This coincidence makes me uncomfortable with two couples with exactly the same names married so near in time to each other in two towns about 20 - 25 miles apart. Can anyone familiar with these Whitney families, or, better yet, any Warren researcher clarify the origins of these two Rebecca Warrens, so as to clearly delineate the basis for the resolution of my confusion?

Thank you all for giving this matter your consideration.

Allan E. Green

From: [email protected] (Norris) Subject: Re: WARRENS/Whitneys of Stow and Westminster, MA; ca 1770-1810 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 23:14:23 GMT References: <[email protected]> To: [email protected]

On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:35:04 EST, you wrote:

>Dear Warren, Whitney and NE-Roots researchers: > > I am at a point of confusion about the origin of the Rebecca Warren who

Your best shot in these kinds of situations is to get their wills and hope one or the other named a nephew that the other one couldn't have (or a husband of a sister the other one couldn't have, etc.)

Norris

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:59:36 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Elhanna Whitney To: [email protected]

At 02:46 PM 11/18/98 -0600, Paula Thompson wrote: >Hi, I am flustered! I have posted this info at least two times and to >my knowledge, I have yet to get a respond.......Surely there is someone >out there with a Whitney in ALABAMA.......Elhanna "Tony" Whitney was b >1838 Ala. He lived in Walker Co, Ala. until late in life and then >moved to Greene Co or Craighead Co, Arkansas along with his wife Romelia >Katherine Falls, his younger children and at least three grandchildren >of his daughter, Minerva Whitney b1873 Walker Co, Alabama married Lee >Pickens Barrentine 1890 in Walker Co, Alabama......Minerva was dead and >Lee Pickens in prison, so the Whitneys carried the 3 daughters of >Minerva and Lee Pickens to Arkansas with them, Huey Etta b 1891 Ala >married Charlie "Pat" Higgins 1908 in Greene Co, Ark.; Ada Bell b 1893 >married Oscar Childress 1908 in Greene Co, Ark.; Rossie Velma b >1895....... > >From the 1850 Walker Co, Alabama Census >305/75 Thomas L. Reed 36 M farmer Tn > Minerva " 40 F SC > Margarett " 6 F Ala > Reuben C " 5 M Ala > Mary A R " 2 F Ala > Jim Polk " 11/12 M Ala > Marien Whitney 21 M Ala > Suzanah A. Whitney 17 F Ala > Elizabeth Whitney 15 F Ala > Elhannan Whitney 12 M Ala > Marional Whitney 11 M Ala > >Is Minerva Reed his mother? Where is his father and who is his father? >Did his mother remarry and have another family? I have never been able >to find a clue to this mystery. >Thank you in advance for your help......pj

There was a Minerva WHITNEY who was listed in the 1840 U.S. Census of Walker Co., AL, on p. 285.

Regards,

Robert

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:46:02 -0600 From: Paula Thompson <[email protected]> Subject: Elhanna Whitney To: [email protected]

Hi, I am flustered! I have posted this info at least two times and to my knowledge, I have yet to get a respond.......Surely there is someone out there with a Whitney in ALABAMA.......Elhanna "Tony" Whitney was b 1838 Ala. He lived in Walker Co, Ala. until late in life and then moved to Greene Co or Craighead Co, Arkansas along with his wife Romelia Katherine Falls, his younger children and at least three grandchildren of his daughter, Minerva Whitney b1873 Walker Co, Alabama married Lee Pickens Barrentine 1890 in Walker Co, Alabama......Minerva was dead and Lee Pickens in prison, so the Whitneys carried the 3 daughters of Minerva and Lee Pickens to Arkansas with them, Huey Etta b 1891 Ala married Charlie "Pat" Higgins 1908 in Greene Co, Ark.; Ada Bell b 1893 married Oscar Childress 1908 in Greene Co, Ark.; Rossie Velma b 1895.......

>From the 1850 Walker Co, Alabama Census 305/75 Thomas L. Reed 36 M farmer Tn

             Minerva        "             40 F             SC
             Margarett     "               6 F             Ala
             Reuben C     "               5 M            Ala
             Mary A R     "               2 F             Ala
             Jim Polk        "             11/12 M       Ala
             Marien Whitney            21 M          Ala
             Suzanah A. Whitney      17 F           Ala
             Elizabeth Whitney          15 F           Ala
             Elhannan Whitney           12 M         Ala
             Marional Whitney           11 M         Ala

Is Minerva Reed his mother? Where is his father and who is his father? Did his mother remarry and have another family? I have never been able to find a clue to this mystery. Thank you in advance for your help......pj

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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:27:42 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Web page of interest To: [email protected]

Friends,

I have found the following web page about the early settlers of Newport, NH. It contains information about Jazaniah WHITNEY, b. 1 Sep 1780, and some descendants:

 <http://www.NewportNH.com/Ancestors/gen38.htm>

Can anyone identify him?

Regards,

Robert

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Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne Muse" <[email protected]>

Subject: Fw: Benjamin WHITNEY Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:24:44 -0500 To: [email protected]

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From: DAVID J KOSHAR <[email protected]> To: Muse, Jeanne <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 3:55 PM Subject: Benjamin WHITNEY

Hi Jeanne,

  I have a question for you concerning the WHITNEY gen.  Do you know what

happened to Benjamin WHITNEY, b 5 NOV 1743, (twin of Joseph) who is mentioned in Pierce's WHITNEY Family book???

  Also, do you know the origins of the Benjamin WHITNEY who married

Jerusha BROCKWAY? I have been helping a friend and we both are stumped on these Benjamins. Some theorize that they are the same person. I would like to know if they are right...

  Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

Best regards, Ann (HAGER) LINT Peter DELVEE Family historian Also searching: BALLOU, BRADLEY, BREWER, DELVEE, HAGER, LINT/LENT, SMITH, WILDER, and all collateral lines.

From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:03:50 EST Subject: Re: [NEWGEN-L] Fwd: [MOMADISO-L] CW Soldier Mark Crosby To: [email protected]

am forwarding this message on to hopfully find the decendents of Mark Crosby... Liz

Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 19:13:37 -0800 (PST) From: Margaret Cass <[email protected]> Subject: Benjamin Whitney To: [email protected]

I think this is a different Benjamin Whitney than the one you are interested in. He was born 6 Jun 1643 to John Whitney and Elinor. His wife was Jane. His son Benjamin married Mrs. Ester Maverick on 7 aug 1705 and had a son Benjamin born 22 May 1709 who married Margaret Sanderson. I would like to correspond with anyone with this line.

Margaret Cass [email protected]

From: "Charndra Josling" <[email protected]> Subject: finding info about Ann Whitney of Bucks. (early 1800's) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 17:23:09 +1030 To: [email protected]

My ancestor, Ann WHITNEY, married James PEARCE in Leighton Buzzard, Buckinghamshire(?) on July 11th, 1833. They had six children before moving to South Australia and living in Kooringa, and having another two sons. Their daughter, Anne Elizabeth PEARCE, married David JOSLING, previously of ESSEX in 1854. Further details available. Need: any details of Ann WHITNEY, her parents or family. Whitney has stayed as a family name - my grandfather was named Whitney Thomas Josling, and his uncle was named Thomas Whitney Pearce.

Other names: JOSLING, HILL, PEARCE, WHITNEY,RESTALL, WORK,McKAY, REEVE, WORK, BALFOUR, HUTCHINSON AND WALTER. Charndra Josling.

From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 11:12:49 EST Subject: John Whitney, Springwater, Livingston, NY To: [email protected]

In the 1830 and 1840 Federal Census of NY state, there is a John Whitney listed as living in Livingston County, Springwater town. Does anyone know the identity of this John Whitney? Thanks, A. Whitney Brown

From: [email protected] (Norris) Subject: Elizabeth Warren b abt 1684 m David Whitney b abt 1682 Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 17:44:22 GMT To: [email protected]

Hi:

Does anyone know the origins of this Elizabeth Warren:

Elizabeth Warren b abt 1684 m David Whitney b abt 1682

Is she of the Richard Warren / Mayflower bunch or the John Warren / Watertown bunch?

Thanks

Norris

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From: [email protected] (Norris) Subject: Isaac Williams b abt 1688 m Martha Whitney b abt 1688 Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 17:52:48 GMT To: [email protected]

Hi:

I'm trying to place Isaac Williams in my Williams line.

Does anyone know his Williams origins??

Thanks

Norris

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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 16:17:05 -0500 From: "Loren J. McCullough" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Isaac Williams b abt 1688 m Martha Whitney b abt 1688 References: <[email protected]> To: [email protected]

If your Martha Whitney is the daughter of Hoshua Whitney and Abigail Tarbell, then I believe that this is the lineage of Isaac Williams.

 1  WILLIAMS, Robert  (  [3] Robert Williams  )  b: 24 Jul 1607 in

Norwich,

    Norfolk, England  Baptism: 11 Dec 1608 Saint Nicholas Parish

Church, Great

    Yarmouth  d: 1 Sep 1693 in Roxbury, , MA  Occupation: Cordwynar

Emigration:

    15 Apr 1637 Sailed from Yarmouth in the Rose, William Andrews,

Master

 .  +STALHAM, Elizabeth  (  Elizabeth Stalham  )  b: Abt. 1597 in

Norwich,

    Norfolk, England  Christened: 11 Nov 1597 in Great Yarmouth,

Norfolk,

    England  d: 28 Jul 1674 in Roxbury, , MA  Father: STALHAM, John

Mother:

    GIBSON, Alice
   2  WILLIAMS, Isaac  (  [2] Isaac Williams  )  b: 1 Sep 1638 in

Roxbury, , MA

      d: 11 Feb 1706/07 in Newton, , MA  Occupation: Weaver  Occupation

2: deacon

 ..   +PARKE, Martha  (  Martha Park  )  b: 2 Mar 1641/42 in Roxbury, ,

MA m:

      1660  d: 24 Oct 1674 in Newton, , MA  Father: PARKE, William

Mother:

      HOLGRAVE, Martha
 .  3  WILLIAMS, Isaac  (  [1] Isaac Williams  )  b: 11 Dec 1661 in

Newton, , MA

       Baptism: 11 Mar 1661/62 Cambridge, , MA  d: 27 Jun 1739 in

Roxbury, , MA

 ....  +HYDE, Elizabeth  (  Elizabeth Hyde  )  b: 4 Sep 1659  m: 1685

d: 26 Jun

       1699 in Newton, , MA  Father: HYDE, Jonathan  Mother: FRENCH,

Mary

 ..   4  WILLIAMS, Isaac  (  Isaac Williams  )  b: 1 Nov 1686 in

Newton, , MA

Norris wrote:

> Hi: > > I'm trying to place Isaac Williams in my Williams line. > > Does anyone know his Williams origins?? > > Thanks > > Norris > > -- > Silver Bullet <[email protected]>

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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:25:26 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Whitney Family To: [email protected]

At 07:32 AM 11/22/98 -0500, MS MARTI S DART wrote: >Hi - Just wanted to check to see if you have any DART/DARTE >connections to your Whitney family. I have a Lucy Whitney from >Canaan, CT, who married a Jonathan DARTE, probably around 1750-60. I >have no further info on Lucy & am trying to determine her parentage. > >Thanks, > >Marti Dart

Lucy was surely the same Lucy-5 WHITNEY, daughter of Joshua-4 and Anna (BLODGETT) WHITNEY [William-3, Joshua-2, John-1], born 29 Apr 1739, Preston, CT. She married, 16 Jun 1755, Bolton, CT, Jonathan DART/DARTE. Her brother Asa-5 moved from Preston to Salisbury, CT. Her sister Abigail m. Eliphalet JEWELL in Salisbury. Her brother Joshua lived first in Salisbury, then in Canaan.

I have a list of the children of Jonathan and Lucy-5 (WHITNEY) DART/E, if you want/need it.

Regards,

Robert

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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:31:30 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Elizabeth Warren b abt 1684 m David Whitney b abt 1682 To: [email protected]

At 05:44 PM 11/22/98 GMT, Norris wrote: >Hi: > >Does anyone know the origins of this Elizabeth Warren: > >Elizabeth Warren b abt 1684 m David Whitney b abt 1682 > >Is she of the Richard Warren / Mayflower bunch or the John Warren / >Watertown bunch? > > >Thanks > > >Norris > >-- >Silver Bullet <[email protected]> >Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html >---------------------------------------

Norris,

I have undocumented information that she was daughter of Jacob and Mary (HILDRETH) WARREN of Chelmsford, MA, Canterbury, and Plainfield, CT. I believe he belongs to neither of the above families, but to that of Arthur-1 WARREN of Weymouth. Arthur is not closely related to John-1 WARREN of Watertown, and not known to be related to Richard-1 WARREN of Plymouth, either.

Regards,

Robert

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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:38:42 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Isaac Williams b abt 1688 m Martha Whitney b abt 1688 To: [email protected]

At 05:52 PM 11/22/98 GMT, you wrote: >Hi: > >I'm trying to place Isaac Williams in my Williams line. > >Does anyone know his Williams origins?? > >Thanks > >Norris > >-- >Silver Bullet <[email protected]> >Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html >---------------------------------------

Norris,

He was son of Capt. Isaac-3 and (1)Elizabeth (HYDE) WILLIAMS, b. 1 Nov 1686, Newton, MA. He was grandson of Isaac-2 and Martha (PARK) WILLIAMS. He was greatgrandson of Robert-1 and Elizabeth (STALHAM) WILLIAMS.

Reference: Bond, Henry, _Genealogies of the Families and Descendants of the Early Settlers of Watertown, Massachusetts, Including Waltham and Weston; to Which is Appended the Early History of the Town. With Illustrations, Maps, and Notes_. Vol. II, Additions, Corrections, and Early History (Boston, MA: Little, Brown & Company, 1855), p. 965.

Regards,

Robert

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From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:32:32 EST Subject: Finding English Records To: [email protected]

Hello Folks,

Things have been running so smoothly lately that I haven't had to deal with

any problems. So I'll bug you about something else. For those who don't know, my Whitney line starts in Bermuda with Samuel Whitney apparently being beamed down by Scotty in the 1620's. This after Capt. Francis Whitney of the ship Garland died in Bermuda in 1619.

The point of this is does anyone have any experience with finding wills in

England in the 1619-1620 era? Also I have copies of the minutes of the Virginia Company with Capt. Whitney at the meeting, does anyone have any ideas of how to find out what parish the Virginia Company was in and/or near?

Open to any hints,suggestions,or wild guess'.

Michael Whitney

From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 02:03:06 EST Subject: Error discovered: Josiah of Wrentham and Abigail/Mary To: [email protected]

Dear WRG:

I was working on something else tonight and ran across the two marriages of Josiah-3 Whitney, son of Jonathan-2 and Lydia (Jones) Whitney. In the last two databases (W12 & W13) there are four children, born between 1695 and 1708, that are ascribed to the wife Abigail. This is not possible, as Abigail and Josiah were not married until 3 Nov 1713 in Dorchester, Suffolk, MA, she being his second wife. There is no record that I can find of Josiah's marriage to his first wife, Mary (--?--), but the Vital Records of Wrentham show the birth of four children to Josiah and Mary, the last one (Hannah) coming 11 Jul 1710, and Mary's death is recorded there just seven days later on 18 Jul 1710. This last child has not previously been included in W12/13. The first child listed in that spot in the database, Mary, b. 5 Mar 1695/96 does NOT appear in the Wrentham VR's, nor does she appear in any other known Vital Record source.

There is an interesting gap in the births of girls named Mary about this time. One is recorded in Watertown on 21 Apr 1694 (to Joseph-3 and Martha (Beach) Whitney), and the next one in Robert Ward's Index to the VR's does not come along until the Mary born 28 May 1710 in Sherborn to Jonathan-3 and Susanna (Fairbanks) Whitney. It is interesting to speculate about this time, one of unsettledness and Indian troubles, but why there were no females named Mary during this period is probably more a matter of missing records than one of the sudden unpopularity of the name.

I don't know from what source the original ascription of the four children to Abigail (whose last name is Martin - further details about her would need to come from the full Dorchester Vital Records volume) stemmed, but that is unimportant. The main thing is that the error has been identified and can now be corrected. If those who are interested in the full details of all the children of Josiah and Mary, his first wife, will write to me directly, I will prepare a complete listing of everything I have discovered and the sources and send it to you in an e-mail.

Happy Hunting to all!

Allan E. Green

Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 09:54:51 -0500 From: DAVID J KOSHAR <[email protected]> Subject: Error discovered: Josiah of Wrentham and Abigail/Mary Sender: DAVID J KOSHAR <[email protected]> To: [email protected]

Allan,

  I would be interested in your discovery of Josiah's families...

Thanks, Ann.

Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:55:30 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: WHITNEY Extracts from the NEHGR, Part 11 To: [email protected]

Extracted from _The New England Historical and Genealogical Register_.

The first article has bearing on the problem of the daughters of Joshua-2 WHITNEY of Groton. His daughter Hannah-3 WHITNEY was the second wife of Thomas-2 WOODS. The wife of Nathaniel-2 WOODS is alleged by some authors to have been Alice-3 WHITNEY, but this is contradicted by Joshua's will. Contrary to what is written below, I believe Hannah-3 (WHITNEY) WOODS's mother was Mary (-----)(BUCKMINSTER) WHITNEY, not Lydia. For details, see:

 <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/correct.html#Josh1635>
 <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/correct.html#Josh1635a>

Enjoy!

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Woods, Henry Ernest, "The Woods Family of Groton, Mass.," _NEHGR_, vol. LXIV (1910), pp. 34-43, 144-154, 205-210.

[p. 35] 3. THOMAS-2 WOODS (Samuel-1), [son of Samuel-1 and Alice (Rushton) Woods,] born at Groton 9 Mar. 1663, died there 28 Aug. 1738. In 1735 he was "bereft of reason" (Middlesex Co. Probate).

He married four times: first ELIZABETH -----, who died 21 Apr. 1688; secondly HANNAH WHITNEY, who died before Apr. 1713, daughter of Joshua and Lydia; thirdly HANNAH -----, who was living in 1721; and fourthly at Groton, 30 Apr. 1723., MRS. ABIGAIL (NUTTING) CHAMBERLAIN, who died before Oct. 1740, widow of Thomas of Groton.

Child by first wife:

     i. JOHN-3, d. 1 May 1688.

Children by second wife:

    ii. ABIGAIL, m. 13 Oct. 1713, JOHN CHAMBERLAIN, known as "Paugus John."
   iii. ESTHER, b. at Groton 26 July 1697; d. 31 July 1704.
7.  iv. JOSIAH, b. at Groton 15 Sept. 1701.
     v. ELIZABETH, b. at Groton 9 Nov 1702; m. 2 Nov. 1732, DANIEL FARMER of
        Lunenburg, Mass.
    vi. THOMAS, b. at Groton 25 Nov. 1705; killed in Lovewell's Fight at
        Pigwacket (Fryeburg, Me.) 8 May 1725.
8. vii. AMOS, b. about 1709.

4. NATHANIEL-2 WOODS (Samuel-1), [son of Samuel-1 and Alice (Rushton) Woods,] born at Groton 25 Mar. 1667-8, died there 20 June 1738.

He married four times: first ELIZABETH -----; secondly ALICE -----, born about 1673-4, died 10 Jan. 1717-18 in her 45th year; thirdly, 3 July 1721, SARAH BROWN, born at Sudbury, Mass., 20 May 1680, died at Groton 3 Mar. 1724-5, daughter of Jabez and Deborah (Haines) of Sudbury and Stow, Mass.; and fourthly, 14 Sept. 1725, Mrs. MARY (BLANCHARD) DERBYSHIRE, who survived him, daughter of John of Dunstable, and widow of John of Groton.

Children, all born at Groton:

 9.   i. (Sergt.) NATHANIEL-3, b. 19 Oct. 1694, d. at Pepperell, Mass., --
         July 1766; m.(1) ALICE FRENCH; m.(2) RUTH -----; m.(3) 2 Dec. 1762,
         MRS. MARY (-----) ERWIN.
     ii. DANIEL, b. 10 Aug. 1696; killed in Lovewell's Fight at Pigwacket
         (Fryeburg, Me.) 8 May 1725.
10. iii. (Lieut.) JOHN, b. 3 Mar. 1697-8, d. at Groton 7 May 1782; m.(1) at
         Groton, 3 June 1725, SARAH LONGLEY; m.(2) DEBORAH -----.
11.  iv. ISAAC, b. 20 Feb. 1699-1700.
      v. BATHSHEBA, b. 5 Apr. 1702; m. (1) 2 May 1722, COLLINS MOORE of
         Oxford, Mass.; m. (2) 11 Aug. 1743, SAMUEL TOWN of Oxford; m. (3)
         20 Dec. 1760, JOSEPH PHILLIPS of Oxford; d. at Charlton, Mass., in
         1773.
     vi. HANNAH, b. 16 Mar. 1704; m. 27 Apr. 1725, JOHN FARMER of Billerica,
         Mass.; d. before 1738.
    vii. PHEBE, b. 13 Jan. or Feb. 1705-6; d. young.
12.viii. AARON, b. 26 May 1707.
13.  ix. MOSES, b. 6 Jul 1709.
14.   x. REUBEN, b. 11 Apr 1711.

Children by second wife:

     xi. PHEBE, b. 6 May 1713; m. 25 Oct 1733, JAMES TUFTS of Medford,
         Mass.; living in 1770.
15. xii. JONATHAN, b. 4 June 1715, d. at Pepperell, Mass., 30 Dec. 1755; m.
         MRS. MARY (PAGE) BOYDEN.

[p. 39] 7. JOSIAH-3 WOODS (Thomas-2, Samuel-1), born at Groton 15 Sept. 1701, died in Pennsylvania 30 Sept. 1738. The name of his wife, and place and date of their marriage, have not been found. In 1734 he was living at Cheltenham, Philadelphia County, Pa. (Middlesex Co. Deeds, vol. 38, p. 454.) In 1757 the children named below joined in court proceedings concerning property (Middlesex Co. Superior Court files, Mar. 1758).

Children:

     i. ISAAC-4, of White Marsh, Philadelphia Co., Pa.
    ii. SAMUEL, of White Marsh.
   iii. RACHEL, of White Marsh.
    iv. HANNAH, m. JOHN COX of Abington, Philadelphia Co.
     v. THOMAS, of Abington.
    vi. JOSIAH, of Norriton, Philadelphia Co.
   vii. ELIZABETH, m. JOHN BURKE of Upper Dublin, Philadelphia Co.

[p. 37] 8. AMOS-3 WOODS (Thomas-2, Samuel-1), was born about 1709. The records of his birth and death, and the death of his wife, have not been found.

He married at Groton, 5 July 1733, HANNAH NUTTING, born at Groton 28 May 1714, daughter of David and Hannah of Groton.

Children, all born at Groton:

     i. HANNAH-4, b. 4 Mar. 1734.  Perhaps she m. 16 Mar. 1758, JONATHAN
        HOLDEN.
    ii. ESTHER, b. 12 June 1735.  Perhaps she m. 26 June 1760, WILLIAM
        FARWELL.
   iii. MARY, b. 21 Feb. 1737-8; m. 2 Aug 1777, SAMUEL MANNING of Cambridge,
        Mass.; d. 15 Oct. 1788.
    iv. SIBYL, b. 6 Feb. 1740.
     v. LYDIA, b. 23 Jan. 1745; m. 20 Nov. 1770, BENJAMIN HAZEN.
24. vi. AMOS, b. 17 Dec 1748.

[p. 39] 14. REUBEN-3 WOODS (Nathaniel-2, Samuel-1), born at Groton 11 Apr. 1711, died there 17 Oct. 1774.

He married at Groton, 11 June 1741, MRS. SUBMIT (PARKER) WHITNEY, born at Groton 10 Sept. 1715, living in 1791, daughter of James and Abigail (Prescott), and widow of Timothy of Groton.

Children, all born at Groton:

     i. REUBEN-4, b. 30 Mar. 1742; d. at Crown Point, N. Y., 24 Oct. 1760.
    ii. ABEL, b. 2 Jan. 1743-4.
   iii. BETTY, b. 18 Sept. 1745; m. 6 Oct. 17468, THOMAS FARRINGTON; d. at
        Kennebec, Me., 5 May 1775.
    iv. TIMOTHY, b. 3 May 1747.
     v. SUBMIT, b. 18 Feb. 1748-9; m. 26 June 1764, DAVID FARWELL.
    vi. DANIEL, b. 27 Jan. 1750-1.
   vii. ANNA, b. 16 Apr. 1753; m. 7 May 1772, WILLIAM BEALS of Westford,
        Mass.
  viii. JONATHAN, b. 26 Apr. 1755.
    ix. ABIGAIL, b. 20 Mar. 1757.  Perhaps she m. 19 May 1781, WINSLOW
        PARKER.
     x. OLIVER, b. 17 Sept. 1758; served in the Revolution; living in 1780.
    xi. REUBEN, b. 7 Dec. 1760; served in the Revolution; d. unm. before 19
        Apr. 1780.

[pp. 41-42] 24. AMOS-4 WOODS (Amos-3, Thomas-2, Samuel-1), born at Groton 17 Dec. 1748, was living with his wife at Dunstable, Mass., in 1809. Their death records have not been found. He served in the Revolution.

He married at Groton, 7 July 1778, BETTY TARBELL, baptized at Billerica, Mass., 30 Jan. 1757, daughter of David and Hannah (Fitch) of Billerica, and Nottingham West (now Hudson), N. H.

Children, all born at Groton except the last:

      i. AMOS-5, b 5 Mar. 1779; of Dunstable; m. at Groton, 2 Aug. 1807,
         ELIZABETH JOHNSON PARKER; no further record obtained.
     ii. BETTY, b. 25 Nov 1780.  Perhaps she d. unm. at Dunstable 17 Jan.
         1801.
57. iii. WILLIAM, b. 17 Aug 1782.
     iv. MARY, b. 12 Apr. 1784.
      v. ESTHER, b. 16 Feb. 1786.  Perhaps she m. (int. rec. at Dunstable 30
         Oct. 1809) ROBERT REED of Groton.
     vi. MOSES, b. 10 Feb. 1788.
58. vii. JESSE.
59.viii. DAVID, b. at Dunstable 28 Oct. 1797.

[p. 144] MARY[-5 WOODS, daughter of Capt. Isaac-4 and Mary-4 (Woods) Woods], b. 1 Dec. 1764; m. 14 June 1780, JOSEPH WHITNEY, JR., of Pepperell, and Acworth, N. H.; d. in 1841.

[p. 147] HANNAH[-5 WOODS, daughter of Lemuel-4 and Sarah (Holden) Woods], b. at Pepperell 6 Oct. 1770; m. ELIJAH WHITNEY of Putney, Vt.; d. at Worcester, Vt.

[p. 148] 39. ABEL-4 WOODS (Reuben-3, Nathaniel-2, Samuel-1), born at Groton 2 Jan. 1743-4, was living there in 1790. The records of his marriage and of his and his wife's death have not been found.

He married ANNA -----, whose parentage is not known.

Children, all born at Groton:

     i. ABEL-5, b. 17 Feb. 1768.
    ii. BENJAMIN, b. 10 Mar. 1770; d. at Richmond, Va., 29 Jan. 1822.
   iii. ACHSAH, bapt. 5 May 1770.
    iv. ANNA, b. 15 July 1772.  Perhaps she m. (int. rec. at Pepperell,
        Mass., 2 Sept. 1809), LIEUT. BENJAMIN WHITNEY of Pepperell.
     v. PHILIP, b. 16 Aug. 1774; m. (int. rec. 30 June 1798) PHEBE SAWTELL;
        said to have been associated with the Boston (Mass.) Museum; d. at
        Williamsport, Pa., 5 Jan. 1828; no further record obtained.
    vi. BETTY (church rec.), or PATTY (town rec.), b. 16 Sept. 1776.
        Perhaps she m. at Boston, Mass., 3 July 1799, DANIEL COLE.
   vii. NABBY (church rec.), or ELIZABETH (town rec.), b. 27 May 1779.
  viii. JACOB, b. 21 Jan. 1782; d. at New Orleans, La., 13 Sept. 1809.

[p. 149] 43. LEVI-4 WOODS (Jonathan-3, Nathaniel-2, Samuel-1), born at Groton 10 May 1753, died at Pepperell, Mass., in 1826. He served in the Revolution.

He married, intention recorded at Pepperell 16 Nov. 1776, SIBEL GILSON, born at Groton 18 Jan. 1757, who survived him, daughter of Peter and Sybil (Whitney) of Groton.

Children, all born at Pepperell:

     i. SIBEL-5, b. 23 Apr. 1777; m. 13 Mar. 1798, TIMOTHY BLOOD.
    ii. ANNA, b. 29 Mar. 1779; m. 19 Oct. 1803, JOSHUA ADAMS of Westford,
        Mass.
94.iii. LEVI, b. 20 Dec. 1781.
    iv. POLLY, or MARY, b. 17 Apr. 1784; m. at Groton, 10 Mar. 1803, JEPTHA
        SHATTUCK of Pepperell; d. 30 Sept. 1865.
     v. LYDIA, b. 8 Feb. 1786; m. 6 Oct. 1806, WILLIAM ROOT.
    vi. LUCINDA, b. 18 Feb. 1788; d. -- Mar. 1794.
   vii. BETSEY, b. 9 Mar. 1790.
  viii. SALLY, b. 4 Aug 1792; d. -- Mar. 1793.
    ix. JOHN, b. 17 Jan.1794.
     x. WALTON, b. 8 Apr 1797; living in 1828.
    xi. HENRY, b. 5 Mar. 1799.
   xii. DAVID, b. 11 June 1801.

[p. 205] 57. WILLIAM-5 WOODS (Amos-4, Amos-3, Thomas-2, Samuel-1), born at Groton 17 Aug 1782, died at Lowell, Mass., 12 Mar. 1859.

He married first at Dunstable (now Nashua, N.H.), 29 Nov. 1808, BETSEY SPRAKE or SPRAGUE, born about 1787, died at Nashua 20 Nov. 1852, aged 65, whose parentage is not known; and secondly at Nashua, 2 Mar. 1854, SALLY FLETCHER, born at Alstead, N.H., 3 Feb. 1792, died at Nashua 1 Jan. 1868, daughter of Peter and Sally (Piper) of Alstead.

Children by first wife, all but the fourth born at Dunstable (Nashua):

     i. WILLIAM-6, b. 6 Oct. 1809.
    ii. LOUISA, b. 13 Aug. 1811; d. unm. 10 Aug. 1832.
   iii. SAMUEL, b. 2 Mar. 1813.
    iv. DAVID, b. at Derry, Vt., 2 Nov. 1814.
     v. FILINDIA, b. 27 Dec. 1819; m. at Tyngsborough, Mass., 26 Aug. 1841,
        CHARLES STEVENS of Lowell, Mass.
    vi. MARY WELD, b. 27 May 1821.
   vii. JULIA ANN, b. 6 Aug. 1823.
  viii. AMOS, b. 29 Sept. 1825.
    ix. ELVINA, b. 10 June 1828.
     x. SARAH ANN, b. 8 Feb., d. 20 Aug., 1832.

58. JESSE-5 WOODS (Amos-4, Amos-3, Thomas-2, Samuel-1), said to have been born at Groton, died at Bennington, N.H., but the dates are not recorded. He also resided at New Boston and Hancock, N.H.

He married, date and place not found, ESTHER BURTT, born at Andover, Mass., 11 Oct. 1808, died at Bennington, 20 Dec 1876, daughter of Warren and Esther (Burtt) of Andover and Hancock.

Children, all born at Hancock:

     i. WALTER DANA-6, b. 11 Dec. 1829; m. 15 Apr. 1856, JOSEPHINE SYLVIA
        WHITTEMORE; d. 16 Apr. 1905.
    ii. ANN JANE, b. 19 May 1832; m. 21 Oct. 1851, WILLIAM CUMMINS WOOD of
        Bennington, and Ayer, Mass.; d. 12 Feb. 1863.
   iii. EBEN FRANCIS, b. 14 Oct. 1834; m. in 1855, MARY FRANK BULLARD of
        Antrim, N.H.; d. 22 June 1907.

[p. 205-206] 59. DEA. DAVID-5 WOODS (Amos-4, Amos-3, Thomas-2, Samuel-1), born at Dunstable, Mass., 28 Oct. 1797, died at Gardner, Mass., 21 June 1875. He resided at Hancock, N.H., Lowell, Mass., and Concord, Minn., and is buried at Concord.

He married at Hancock, 31 Jan. 1828, MARY BROOKS, born there 10 Feb. 1802, died at Concord 7 Oct. 1867, daughter of Lieut. John and Betsey (Woods, 32, iii) of Hollis and Hancock.

Children, all born at Hancock:

     i. DAVID LANGDON-6, b. 31 Mar. 1829; m. 17 June 1855, SARAH B. LITTLE,
        of Castine, Me.; living at Concord, Minn.
    ii. ADDISON BROOKS, b. 27 Nov. 1830; m. 22 Aug. 1857, LOUISA M. STEARNS;
        living at Wasioja, Minn.
   iii. WILLIAM SHERMAN, b. 9 Oct. 1837; d. unm. in Minn. -- May 1861.
    iv. CHARLES COLCORD, b. 25 Mar. 1843; d. unm. in Minn. -- Nov. 1867.

==

Dickinson, Marquis Fayette, "George Sumner Mann," _NEHGR_, vol. LXIV (1910), pp. 103-105.

[p. 103] ... Ensign-4 Mann, Jr., [(Ensign-3, Thomas-2, Richard-1),] born on Mann Hill [in Scituate, Mass.] in 1740, removed with his father to Boston early in life, and was graduated from Harvard College in 1764. The College hall and library were burned during his collegiate course, and he lost many books in the fire. He removed to Lancaster, where he was a teacher for three years, and finally went to Petersham, where he also followed the profession of teaching. He took a prominent part in the controversies preceding the American Revolution, was an ardent patriot, and one of the Sons of Liberty. In 1773 he married Alice Whitney, daughter of Rev. Aaron Whitney, the minister of Petersham, and later in life bought a farm ...

==

"Memoirs," _NEHGR_, vol. LXIV (1910), pp. A-lvii - A-lix.

[p. A-lvii] WILLIAM HENRY WHITNEY of Cambridge, Mass., a resident member, elected in 1897, died in Cambridge May 4, 1909. Captain Whitney, born January 3, 1843, was the son of Charles Whitney, born in Waltham, Mass., February 12, 1812, and Caroline Fuller Stimson, born in Needham, August 20, 1816, daughter of Jeremiah Stimson and Elizabeth Fuller. From a pedigree submitted with his letter of acceptance are gleaned the following particulars concerning his ancestry: John-1 Whitney and Elinor; John-2 Whitney and Ruth Reynolds; Benjamin-3 Whitney and Abigail Hagar; John-4 Whitney and Susan; Abraham-5 Whitney, who married first Elizabeth, and secondly Mary Mead; Amos-6 Whitney and Martha Priest. Captain Whitney married, February 18, 1868, Emma Sargent, daughter of John Nathaniel Barbour (spelled Barber before 1835) and wife Susan Sargent. Children: Clara Mabel, born February 22, 1871; Chester, born June 19, 1874; Charles Fuller, born January 22, 1879; and Alice Emma, born August 4, 1880.

He was educated at the Cambridge High School, and for a part of one year at the Lawrence Scientific School, Harvard University. He enlisted July 14, 1862, and was sworn into the United States ...

==

Regards,

Robert

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From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 22:11:10 EST Subject: Whitney/Gould family, To: [email protected]

The following family--descendants in generation six of the Family of Zaccheus Gould--appeared on the Gould list. Some Whitney may recognize a name.

883. Clarissa GOULD b. 31 Oct 1783, m. (1) James WHITNEY, b. 1765, d. 8 Nov 1822, m. (2) Daniel DAVIDSON, b. 1738, d. 6 Jun 1828. Clarissa died 13 Oct 1852. FZG #801

            Children by James WHITNEY:
1692.     i Schuyler WHITNEY b. 9 Sep 1806, m. 1828, Sally LITTLEFIELD.
            Schuyler died 31 Mar 1879.  FZG #1692
1693.    ii Bezaleel WHITNEY b. 1 Apr 1808, m. Abigail COLLINS.  Bezaleel

died

            30 Apr 1876.  FZG #1693
1694.   iii Betsey WHITNEY b. 12 Oct 1809, d. 1810.  FZG #1694  Died aged 6
            months.
1695.    iv Ruth WHITNEY b. 12 Oct 1809, m. _____ TOWNE.  FZG #1695  Twin of
            Betsey WHITNEY.
1696.     v William WHITNEY b. 12 May 1811.  FZG #1696
1697.    vi Daniel WHITNEY b. 2 Oct 1812, m. Ruth WATSON.  Daniel died 1872.
            FZG #1697
1698.   vii Samuel B. WHITNEY b. 17 Sep 1814.  FZG #1698
1699.  viii Clarissa WHITNEY b. 29 Apr 1816, d. 1837.  FZG #1699
1700.    ix Elizabeth WHITNEY b. 29 Nov 1818, m. (1) 21 Nov 1839, Zeba
            HARRIMAN, m. (2) 14 Jun 1865, Russell HOYT.  FZG #1700
1701.     x Pliny WHITNEY b. 30 Jul 1819, m. Nancy LINCOLN.  FZG #1701
1702.    xi Otis WHITNEY b. 19 Mar 1821.  FZG #1702
1703.   xii Fidelia WHITNEY b. 22 Mar 1823, d. 1823.  FZG #1703

Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 23:45:09 -0600 From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]>

Subject: WHITNEY Births in Boston, 1700-1800 To: [email protected]

The following list of Whitney births was taken from the Ancestry.com database "Boston Births, 1700-1800" which originated from "Boston Registry Department, Boston Births from A.D. 1700 to A.D. 1800. Boston, MA: Rockwell & Churchill, 1894."

A REPORT OF THE RECORD COMMISSIONERS OF THE CITY OF BOSTON, CONTAINING BOSTON BIRTHS FROM A.D. 1700 TO A.D. 1800.

page 189

Sarah daughter of John and Elizabeth Whitney, born 14 August 1728.

page 195

Elizabeth daughter of John and Elizabeth Whitney, born 30 August 1729.

page 200

John Son of John and Elizabeth Whitney, born 24 March 1730.

page 210

Daniel Son of John and Elizabeth Whitney, born 22 July 1732.

page 214

Sarah daughter of John and Elizabeth Whitney, born 7 January 1733.

page 223

Isaac Son of John and Elizabeth Whitney, born 5 January 1735.

page 227

Elizabeth daughter of John and Elizabeth Whitney, born 31 July 1736.

page 235

Francis Breno Son of John and Elizabeth Whitney, born 1 August 1738.

page 238

Francis Brinno Son of John and Elizabeth Whitney, born 1 February 1739.

page 244

Susanna daughter of John and Elizabeth Whitney, born 7 June 1741.

page 342

Daniel White Son of Daniel Whitney and Dorcas his Wife, born 21 July 1793.

page 342

Amos Son of Daniel Whitney and Dorcas his Wife, born 22 September 1794.

page 344

William Scott Son of Daniel Whitney and Dorcas his Wife, born 30 September

1795.

page 347

Elizabeth Ruggles daughter of John Whitney and Clarissa his Wife, born 27

March 1798.

page 348

William Parkhurst Son of John Whitney and Clarissa his Wife, born 9 July

1799.

page 349

Susannah daughter of John Whitney and Clarissa his Wife, born 18 November

1800.

page 350

Clarissa daughter of John Whitney and Clarissa his Wife, born 27 March 1802.

page 352

William Son of Israel Whitney and Phebe his Wife, born 15 November 1803.

page 353

Eliza daughter of Israel Whitney and Phebe his Wife, born 9 April 1805.

page 354

Henry Son of Israel Whitney and Phebe his Wife, born 15 September 1806.

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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 00:08:11 -0600 From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]> Subject: Whitney marriages in Columbian Centinel To: [email protected]

The following were taken from Ancestry.com's database named "Massachusetts Centinal Marriage Notices" which were taken from "American Antiquarian Society. Index to Marriages in Massachusetts Centinel and Columbian Centinel, 1784-1840, Vol. 1 A-D. Boston: G.K. Hall, 1961"

Adams,Anna,daughter of Rev.Moses Adams,m.Rev.Nicholas B.Whitney, of

Hingham,in Acton (CC.Nov.15,1800)

Adams,Walter,m.Sarah Whitney,in Ashburnham (CC.Jan.11,1834)
Aiken,Mary,m.Levi Whitney,both of Cornhill Coffe House,Boston, in New York

(CC.Mar.6,1839)

Anderson,Evans,m.Mary Ann Whitney in Charlestown,Sunday (CC.Apr.7,1832)
Appleton,Mary,daughter of Rev.Jewett,m.Rev.John Whitney,of Boxford, in

Gloucester (CC.Oct.21,1835)

Babcock, Ebenezer,m.Mary Whitney, daughter of Isaac Whitney Esq.,in

Sherburne(CC.July 6, 1833)

Baldwin,Mary,daughter of Benjamin Holt Esq.,m.John Whitney,of Cambridge,in

Boston,Tuesday (CC.Dec.27,1828)

Barnes,Gilman,m.Relief Whitney in Boston,Tuesday (CC.Nov.4,1826)
Barrett,Sally,m.Thomas Whitney Jr.,in Shirley (CC.Oct.23,1822)
Bartlett,Eliza Ann,m.Simri Whitney in Boston,Tuesday (CC.June 1,1833)
Bates,Samuel D.,m.Sarah B.Whitney,in Boston (CC.May 7,1834)
Beaman,Gideon,m.Phebe Whitney,in Westminster (CC.Jan.11,1834)
Bicknell,Sylvia,m.Prentiss Whitney,in concord,Thursday (CC.Jan.27,1816)
Biglow,Abraham 2d,m.Mary B.Whitney in Natick (CC.Apr.9,1831)
Bills,Jesse,m.Elizabeth R.Whitney,in Roxbury (CC.Jan.11,1834)
Bird,Mary-Ann,m.Ephriam Whitney,in Boston,Sunday (CC.Dec.11,1816)
Bonney,Eli Whitney,formerly of Walpole,Mass.,m.Rebecca Agnes Lee in Camden

S.C.,July 26 (CC.Aug.24,1836)

Brewer,Mary,m.Cyrus Whitney in Boston (CC.Jan.2,1796)
Bridge,Helen Maria,daughter of Joseph Bridge,m.Josiah Fisk,of Whitney &

Fisk,in Boston,Thursday (CC.Aug.18,1832)

Brigham,Antipas,m.Julia Whitney in Northampton (CC.Apr.17,1799)
Brooks,Alphonso Dr.,m.Caroline Whitney,in Princeton(CC.Apr.3,1830)
Brooks,Mary R.,m.Ohio Whitney Jr.,in Ashburnham (CC.Apr.24,1839)
Brown,William H.,m.Jane Whitney in Roxbury (CC.Dec.10,1828)
Bruce,Charles,m.Julia L.Whitney in Northborough (CC.Oct.4,1823)
Butler,Sarah,daughter of William Butler Esq.,m.William Whitney,of

Boston,in Northampton (CC.Nov.5,1817)

Butterick,Horatio Gates,m.Nancy Whitney,in Lancaster(CC.Oct.15,1803)
Cannall,Ann Maria,m.Jacob S.Whitney,in East Cambridgeport (CC.Dec.29,1838)
Cannon,Eliza,m.Ivory S.Whitney in New Bedford (CC.Sept.14,1833)
Cannon,Susan,m.Amasa Whitney in New Bedford,24th inst. (CC.Sept.27,1837)
Carlton,Mary Ann,m.Orlando Whitney,in Boston (CC.Feb.26,1834)
Caryl,Lucian Willard Dr.,of Buffalo,N.Y.,m.Frances Amelia Whitney in

Boston,Wednesday (CC.Dec.7,1833)

Chamberlain,Prudence,of Westboro,m.Reuel Whitney Esq.,in Southboro

(CC.Dec.10,1831)

Chandler,Charles,m.Sarah Whitney,daughter of late John Whitney,in

Boston,Tuesday (CC.Mar.29,1834)

Chenery,Ruth,m.Charles Whitney in Watertown (CC.Feb.20,1808)
Clapp,Billings,m.Emelia Whitney in Boston,yesterday (CC.Mar.21,1818)
Cobb,Comfort,m.William Whitney,in Bath (CC.June 12,1816)
Cody,John C.,m.Hannah R.Whitney in Grafton (CC.Dec.6,1834)
Collins,Laurinda,m.Gen.James S.Whitney,of South Deerfield,in Somers

Ct.,23d ult. (CC.Dec.10,1836)

Cook,Zebedee,m.Elizabeth Whitney in Newburyport (CC.Apr.6,1825)

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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 00:16:24 -0600 From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]> Subject: Whitney marriages in New York to 1784 To: [email protected]

The following records came from the Ancestry.com database titled "New York Marriages to 1784" which originally came from "O'Callaghan, E.B., New York Marriages Previous to 1784, Albany, NY: Weed, Parsons and Company, 1860."

B, page 23
1763. Mar. 14. Beck, Nathaniel, and Sarah Whitney, M.B., vii. 99

B, page 38
1770. April 2. Boon, John, and Ruth Whitney, M.B., xvi. 46

B, page 39
1762. Sept. 26. Bowman, Catharine, and Isaac Whitney, M.B., vi. 337

G, page 162
1782. Dec. 1. Guire, Anne, and Samuel Whitney, M.B., xxxvii. 103

M, page 260
1772. Dec. 29. Mckee, William, and Sarah Whitney, M.B., xix. 166

W, page 444
1779. Dec. 6. Walker, John, and Rachael Whitney, M.B., xxviii. 163

W, page 458
1762. Sept. 26. Whitney, Isaac, and Catharine Bowman, M.B., vi. 337

W, page 458
1779. Dec. 6. Whitney, Rachael, and John Walker, M.B., xxviii. 163

W, page 458
1770. April 2. Whitney, Ruth, and John Boom, M.B., xvi. 46

W, page 458
1782. Dec. 1. Whitney, Samuel, and Anne Guire, M.B., xxxvii. 103

W, page 458
1763. Mar. 14. Whitney, Sarah, and Nathaniel Beek, M.B., vii. 99

W, page 458
1772. Dec. 29. Whitney, Sarah, and William Mekeel, M.B., xix. 166

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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:55:57 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Ruminations about John-1 WHITNEY To: [email protected]

Dear WRG,

I have been reviewing the records we have of John-1 WHITNEY, immigrant to Watertown, MA, in 1635. Several questions have arisen concerning the English records which seem somewhat odd. I present my thoughts below, and welcome comments.

Henry Melville, in his _Ancestry of John Whitney_, gives records of the apprenticeship of Robert WHITNEY to John WHITNEY on 8 Nov 1624, and the ending of that apprenticeship on 14 Jan 1632. Melville claims that this is the apprenticeship of John-1's youngest brother Robert to him. The dates, however, do not agree well with the baptism of Robert Whitney, son of Thomas, at St. Margaret's Westminster, 10 Nov 1605. Apprentices were freed at age 21, not at age 26! Furthermore, the traditional age for apprenticing a boy was 14, not 19. I feel that this Robert WHITNEY, whoever he was, must have been born about 1610. If this was a brother of John-1 WHITNEY, then that casts doubt on the parentage of John-1 himself. Did the 1605 Robert die young and was another Robert born as son of Thomas? The records do not reveal any such person. If this was not a brother of John-1 WHITNEY, then who was he, and what relationship did he have to John-1, if any? Or was the apprenticed Robert indeed the brother of his master John WHITNEY, and the latter a different person than the immigrant John-1 WHITNEY?

Secondly, if John-1 WHITNEY was living in London in 1635, why did he travel to Ipswich, co. Suffolk, to board a ship to New England? The surviving ship passenger lists for 1635 show many ships, quite a few from London, sailing to New England, any of which would have been much more convenient. Or was John-1 WHITNEY living in Suffolk at that time? We have never found any record of this, but then, we probably haven't looked very hard.

Thirdly, the age at death of John WHITNEY would put his birth in 1588-1589. His age on the ship list would put his birth about 1599-1600, and his wife Elinor's about 1604-1605. The last is inconsistent with children born beginning in 1619, so either the ship-list age is wrong, or some of, and probably all of, the children baptized at Isleworth are not Elinor's. Note that the name of the mother is not given in the baptismal records. Also the ages of the children on the ship list are not consistent with the baptisms at Isleworth and St. Mary Aldermary, London. According to the ship list, John-2 was b. 1623-1624, Richard 1625-1626, Nathaniel 1626-1627, Thomas 1628-1629, and Jonathan 1633-1634. The baptism of John was 14 Sep 1621, Richard 6 Jan 1623/4, Thomas 10 Dec 1627, and the baptisms of Nathaniel and Jonathan have not been found. There is a two-year discrepancy for all three of the children for which we have both dates. These discrepancies in ages would individually be negligible, but combined, they are troubling. Can we just dismiss the ages on the ship-list as being too young for the entire family? Didn't any of them know their ages? Or were all the ages estimated by the recorder of the list without asking the passengers? This last could be checked by looking at other families on the same ship to see if their ages agree with known records.

Some things to ponder!

Regards,

Robert

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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 20:13:38 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Royalty and Whitney To: [email protected]

At 06:17 PM 11/27/98 EST, [email protected] wrote: >Hi, > I'm new to the list. I was wondering if anyone has found any further back >than Sir Robert Whitney, father of Thomas, who was father to John Whitney who >came to Watertown, MA in the early 1600's? I've heard of some connections to >royalty back to the 1200's but, have been unable to find anything online. >Thank you to anyone who can help me. >Laish A. Morse

See the following web page:

 <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/john/ancestry.html>

There are two articles which jointly cut the link between Thomas WHITNEY of Westminster, father of John-1, and his alleged father Robert WHITNEY, 3rd son of Sir Robert WHITNEY of Whitney, Herefordshire. Ask, and I will send them to you.

I'm glad you couldn't find anything on line, since the alleged descent is faulty.

Regards,

Robert

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http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

From: Carolyn Tilton <[email protected]> Subject: Rebecca Annah Whitney.... Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:59:29 -0800 To: [email protected]

    I hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving.
    My Great Great Aunt gave me several pages of information for the family

tree. It is all in her hand writing and has nothing to tell one where she got the information from, or the actual year of death. This looks like it might be the Obituary from a Elgin newspaper.

    Before the obit. I have shown where Rebecca falls in the family tree, with

most of the birth and death dates. If anyone has any information on the Zander's I would greatly appreciate any and all information / help.

Henry Whitney d. 1673

|-John Whitney  Abt. 1642 - Bef. 1720
    |-Richard Whitney  April 18, 1687 - Oct. 20, 1774
       |-Samuel Whitney  Oct. 05, 1711 - Feb. 20, 1796
          |-Walter Whitney  Jan. 23, 1760 - July 18, 1846
             |-Hezekiah Wells Whitney  Jan. 03, 1785 - Oct. 27, 1850
                |-Rebecca Annah Whitney  May 24, 1816 - Aug. 17,
                   |-Lucian Vernon Zander Jr.  Nov. 28, 1847
                      |-Ethel Mae Zander  Nov. 21, 1879 - 1944
                         |-Clifton Lyons Cornwell
                            |-Arthur W. Cornwell
                               |-Carolyn Tilton   (me)

Thank you all and happy hunting... Carolyn Tilton [email protected]

Death of Mrs. Zander Descendant of Revolutionary Heroes. Came here in 1881 Leaves a Large Family

    Mrs. Zander, widow of L.V. Zander Sr., died at the residence of her

daughter, Mrs. Eugene Heath, 523 Laurel Street, at 4:30 p.m. Aug. 17, after a sickness of over three years.

    Rebecca Annah Whitney was born in the town of Bethlehem, Albany County,

N.Y. May 24 1816. Mrs. Zander had quite a remarkable military connection.

She was the Granddaughter of two Revolutionary heroes, David R. Williams,

one of the captors of Major Andre the British Spy, and Capt. Walter Whitney of the regular Army. She was the daughter of a soldier of the War of 1812, and the widow of one, and the mother of four soldiers of the Civil War.

    Mrs. Zander was twice married. Her first Husband Wm. M. Northrup died in

1844, leaving her with six children. In 1846 she married Mr. Zander. They were pioneers of Wisconsin, coming to Milwaukee in 1848. They moved to Elgin in 1881, Where they afterwards resided. Mrs. Zander united with the Hudson street M.E. Church at Albany, N.Y. at the age of 12 years, where her father was class leader for more than twenty years. While never an active outside worker she was always ready with acts of love and kindness in need or sickness. She was a faithful wife, a kind neighbor, and a most devoted, loving mother to her large family of fourteen children, eight of whom survive her.

    They are:   Mrs. G.W.  Copeland of San Francisco, Calif., Mrs. E.W. Tuttle

and Mrs. Eugene Heath of Elgin, Henry W. Northrup of Santa Barbara, Calif., Lucian V., James T., L. Julian and Geo E. Zander all of Elgin. Fifteen grandchildren, four great grandchildren, and a large circle of relatives and friends mourn her loss.

    The funeral will be held at the house Saturday Aug. 19, at 10:30 a.m.
Interment in Bluff City Cemetery.

From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:17:26 EST Subject: Royalty and Whitney To: [email protected]

Hi,

    I'm new to the list. I was wondering if anyone has found any further back

than Sir Robert Whitney, father of Thomas, who was father to John Whitney who came to Watertown, MA in the early 1600's? I've heard of some connections to royalty back to the 1200's but, have been unable to find anything online. Thank you to anyone who can help me. Laish A. Morse

Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 20:50:11 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Ruminations about John-1 WHITNEY To: [email protected]

Dear WRG,

At 11:55 AM 11/26/98, I wrote: >Secondly, if John-1 WHITNEY was living in London in 1635, why did he travel >to Ipswich, co. Suffolk, to board a ship to New England? The surviving ship >passenger lists for 1635 show many ships, quite a few from London, sailing to >New England, any of which would have been much more convenient. Or was >John-1 WHITNEY living in Suffolk at that time? We have never found any >record of this, but then, we probably haven't looked very hard.

The ship list does not say from where the ship sailed. It may well have been London, after all, or not. At any rate, I retract what I said in the above paragraph about Suffolk. I regret this error.

Reference: Banks, Charles Edward, _Planters of the Commonwealth_ (1930: Boston, MA) Houghton Mifflin Co., p. 154.

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

From: [email protected] Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:14:05 EST Subject: Additional Whitneys GEDCOM To: [email protected]

Hello All, I recently completed a GEDCOM on my line of ancestors which are not listed in the WRG's John and Elinor database. It starts with Samuel-5 Whitney who married Abigail Cutler and had 17 children, not two as listed. I am descended from the 16th child Ebenezer-6. If anyone is interested in this GEDCOM please e-mail me. Thanks! Kathy Whitney Conlin

From: [email protected] Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:08:21 EST Subject: Re: WHITNEY-D Digest V98 #261 To: [email protected]

Hi....

My WHITNEY line is:

    John Whitney marr  Elizabeth SMITH 17 March 1674/5 Norwalk, CT
    Joseph Whitney (1678-1741) marr Hannah HOYT
    Hezekiah b 1705 marr Margaret HARRIS 1732
    Hezekiah (1742-1801) D in Wolcott, Orleans, VT. marr Sarah TAYLOR
    Hannah  died btw 1794 and 1807.  She marr 6 Nov 1791 in Hackensack, Bergen

Co.,

       NJ  JOHN G HUYLER

Does anyone have data on the family of John G. HUYLER and Hannah WHITNEY Huyler? Would like to correspond with persons having data on any of the above.

Helen Stevenson [email protected]

Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne Muse" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: WHITNEY-D Digest V98 #261 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 21:09:45 -0500 To: [email protected]

Helen Stevenson [[email protected]] wrote: >My WHITNEY line is: > John Whitney marr Elizabeth SMITH 17 March 1674/5 Norwalk, CT > Joseph Whitney (1678-1741) marr Hannah HOYT > Hezekiah b 1705 marr Margaret HARRIS 1732 > Hezekiah (1742-1801) D in Wolcott, Orleans, VT. marr Sarah TAYLOR > Hannah died btw 1794 and 1807. She marr 6 Nov 1791 in Hackensack, Bergen >Co., > NJ JOHN G HUYLER > >Does anyone have data on the family of John G. HUYLER and Hannah WHITNEY >Huyler? >Would like to correspond with persons having data on any of the above.

Helen: This marriage of Hannah Whitney and John G. Huyler is ~new information~ for the Henry Whitney database. Do you have a birth date and place for John Huyler? I would also be interested in knowing the source of the marriage information (for the database record). Thanks!

For everyone listening in, Hannah Whitney was born 26 Jun 1770 in Norwalk, Connecticut, the daughter of Hezekiah Whitney and Sarah Taylor. Her line goes: Hannah-6, Hezekiah-5, Hezekiah-4, Joseph-3, John-2, Henry-1.

-) Jeanne Muse

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwmuse [email protected] -

Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 21:26:15 -0600 From: William Everheart <[email protected]> Subject: Elijah Whitney-Christian Co. KY To: [email protected]

I am seeking information on Elijah Whitney who was a land owner in Christian Co. Ky in the late 1700's. His daughter Mary Whitney married Francis Bird Bounds in Christian Co. in 1816.

Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 21:51:10 -0600 From: Margie and George Parker <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Ruminations about John-1 WHITNEY To: [email protected]

Dear Robert, et al.:

We might note that the following extract seems to say that the Elizabeth & Ann came from London. This was found on the CD version of

The Complete Book of Emigrants, 1607-1776

13 April 1635-14 May 1635. Passengers embarked in the Elizabeth & Ann, Mr. Roger Cooper, bound (from London) to New England: Thomas Hedsall 47; Margerie Washborn of Evesham, Worcs, 49, and her sons John Washborn 14 and Phillipp Washborn 11; Robert Hawkynns, husbandman 25, Marie Hawkynns 24; John Whitney 35; Ellin Whitney 30, John Whitney 11, Richard Whitney 9, Nathaniell Whitney 8, Thomas Whitney 6, Jonathan Whitney 1; John Palmerley 20; Richard Martin 12; Nicholas Sension 13; Henry Jackson 29; William Hubbard 35; Thomas

At 08:50 PM 11/28/98, you wrote: >Dear WRG, > >At 11:55 AM 11/26/98, I wrote: >>Secondly, if John-1 WHITNEY was living in London in 1635, why did he travel >>to Ipswich, co. Suffolk, to board a ship to New England? The surviving ship >>passenger lists for 1635 show many ships, quite a few from London, sailing to >>New England, any of which would have been much more convenient. Or was >>John-1 WHITNEY living in Suffolk at that time? We have never found any >>record of this, but then, we probably haven't looked very hard. > >The ship list does not say from where the ship sailed. It may well have >been London, after all, or not. At any rate, I retract what I said in the >above paragraph about Suffolk. I regret this error. > >Reference: >Banks, Charles Edward, _Planters of the Commonwealth_ (1930: Boston, MA) >Houghton Mifflin Co., p. 154. > >Regards, > >Robert > >Robert L. Ward ><img src="/robertward.gif"> >http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ >12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 >301-776-1659 >

George D. Parker > >

From: [email protected] (Norris) Subject: Re: WHITNEY-D Digest V98 #261 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 08:56:09 GMT References: <001901be1b3d$57243be0$cbaeaec7@end-user> To: [email protected]

On Sat, 28 Nov 1998 21:09:45 -0500, you wrote:

>Helen: This marriage of Hannah Whitney and John G. Huyler is ~new >information~ for the Henry Whitney database. Do you have a birth date and >place for John Huyler? I would also be interested in knowing the source of >the marriage information (for the database record). Thanks!

Hi Jeanne:

I didn't know we had "Henry" folks here. <g>

Anyway, I have struck out on finding a president in the John Whitney tree so far, but in the process, I believe I found a president in Henry's tree.

A chart at Pg 282 of Ancestors of American Presidents shows Joseph Keeler and Elizabeth Whitney as ancestors of Bush.

I believe the Whitney database shows these folks as Henry's?

Further details of the line is in Bush's tfel....

Norris

-- Silver Bullet <[email protected]> Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html

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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 09:31:12 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: WHITNEY-D Digest V98 #261 References: <001901be1b3d$57243be0$cbaeaec7@end-user>

<001901be1b3d$57243be0$cbaeaec7@end-user>

To: [email protected]

At 08:56 AM 11/29/98 GMT, Norris wrote: >Anyway, I have struck out on finding a president in the John Whitney >tree so far, but in the process, I believe I found a president in >Henry's tree. > >A chart at Pg 282 of Ancestors of American Presidents shows Joseph >Keeler and Elizabeth Whitney as ancestors of Bush. > >I believe the Whitney database shows these folks as Henry's? > >Further details of the line is in Bush's tfel.... > > >Norris > >-- >Silver Bullet <[email protected]> >Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html >---------------------------------------

This line of descent can be found at my website at the very bottom of:

 <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/biography/famous.html>

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne Muse" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: WHITNEY-D Digest V98 #261 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 07:14:09 -0500 To: [email protected]

>I didn't know we had "Henry" folks here. <g>

Oh Yes! I keep forgetting that many new members come around every day. I am the "maintainer" of the Henry Whitney of Ct. and R.I. database. Anyone interested in downloading our latest Gedcom database (CTWHIT3.GED) find it on the web at this address: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwmuse/files.htm

I'd be interested in receiving anything you have on the sources & dates of John Huyler & Hannah Whitney and their marriage (as well as any more not already contained in our gedcom on the Henry line!).

>Anyway, I have struck out on finding a president in the John Whitney >tree so far, but in the process, I believe I found a president in >Henry's tree. > >A chart at Pg 282 of Ancestors of American Presidents shows Joseph >Keeler and Elizabeth Whitney as ancestors of Bush. > >I believe the Whitney database shows these folks as Henry's? > >Further details of the line is in Bush's tfel....

Yes ... President George Bush's maternal ancestors can be found in the Henry Whitney tree.

>Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html

Very nice home pages! I may be in touch with you personally about some other lines we may share. In the meantime, I encourage everyone to take a look at the above genealogy pages.

-) Jeanne Muse

My Genealogy pages begin here: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwmuse/roots.htm [email protected] -

From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:08:45 EST Subject: Re: WHITNEY-D Digest V98 #262 To: [email protected]

Jeanne:

John G HUYLER, according to his military records, was born 4 October 1763 in Hackensack, Bergen Co., NJ the possible son of George Huyler. John married on 6 Nov. 1791 Hannah WHITNEY in the Schraalenburgh Dutch Reformed Church in Hackensack. (this marriage recorded in church records) The birth of one son, George Huyler, on 3 Nov 1792 is recorded in the church records. There may possibly have been another son, Hezekiah, date and place of birth unk....this Hezekiah married a Julia Williams and named a son George Whitney Huyler.

>From the will of Hezekiah WHITNEY which was signed 22 Nov 1797 and presented for probate 7 April 1801 in Orleans Co., VT Hezekiah WHITNEY mentioned his daughter Hannah, wife of John G. HUYLER. Other children named in Hezekiah Whitney's will were: Thankful, William, Josiah, Hezekiah , Jesse, Ira, Sarah, wife of John Parsell; Margaret wife of Henry Eaton.

>From this we learn that Hannah Whitney Huyler, wife of John G. Huyler, probably died between the probate of her father's will in 1801 and 1802 when her mother, Sarah Taylor Whitney signed her will.

John HUYLER served in the NJ Militia during the Amer. Rev. under the name of John....after the war he incorporated the initial "G" since he had an uncle John Huyler and several cousins by the same name.

Helen Stevenson [email protected]

Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne Muse" <[email protected]> Subject: Zeno Whitney Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 06:44:53 -0500 To: [email protected]

I cannot help Ed Self <[email protected]> with his question. Can anybody else? Remember, do not hit reply ... click on Ed's e-mail address to answer him.

>>You appear to have considerable Whitney knowledge. Have you anything on Zeno W Whitney, b ca 1815 in N C & lived mostly in/near Macon Ga? Ed Self<<

From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:56:26 -0500 Subject: A interesting research dilemma... To: [email protected]

Well, I think the WRG is the best genealogical list I subscribe to. If any group can figure this one out, it's WRG. Here are the facts as I have them. I would appreciate any insight or ideas on where to go next.

This begins with my greatgrandfather, Carleton Delano Whitney. I could find no birth rec for him in the VT vitals microfilm. So I went off to the 1900 census, looking for an 11yo Carleton to find his parents names. From vitals of my great aunts and uncles, I knew Carleton was born in Rochester, VT. Bingo! reading through the Rochester census pages, there he was, the son of a James B. Whitney and a Laura M.

Back to the VT vitals with a name, James B. No birth record (even checked the unnamed males), but a marriage and death rec. Marriage record: Father is listed as James Packard Whitney, no mother listed. Death record: Father is Eric and Mother is Sara. Ok, so the survivors could not remember his parents' names. But certainly,

• he'd* get his father's name right when submitting his info for the

marriage record, I'd thought. (BTW one of the records has Bert as a middle name and all his recs and birth records of his children say James B. was born in Stockbridge).

Back to the census-no Eric's, no matching James or James Packard. Ok, so I start reading the towns again in 1860, looking for a 4 yo James B. (also got his birth date from his vitals: July 4, 1856). Nothing in Stockbridge, VT (as a matter of fact, I did not find any Whitneys in Stockbridge in 1860). On to Rochester, VT. No James B., but here is an entry that set my head reeling: Ara Whitney 42 bp VT Sara " 41 bp VT Randilla Gramm 16 bp VT James Packard 4 bp VT NO Hash marks after either Randilla or James.

VT vitals: Ara and Sara Chamberlin were married 19DEC1850 in Stockbridge, VT Ara sounds a lot like Eric. There are no James Packard's born in 1856, nor one born a generation earlier, nor any unnamed males that fit the bill.

Am I looking at an "adoption"? With no birth record for James B Whitney or James Packard, where can I go for info? There is no family lore about an adoption or orphanning or anything to indicate I'd find something like this. The coincidences are too strong to dismiss as erroneous details, but I am willing to consider anything to find James B. Whitney's origins. What do you all think?

-Denise Cross

Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:33:04 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: WHITNEY Extracts from the NEHGR, Part 12 To: [email protected]

Dear WRG,

Extracted from _The New England Historical and Genealogical Register_.

Enjoy!

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Roberts, Oliver A., "Notes," _NEHGR_, vol. LXV (1911), p. 293.

WHITNEY, A CORRECTION: -- In the REGISTER of 1871 (vol. 25, pp. 188 and 189), "VI Lt.-Col. Daniel Whitney," and "VII Maj. Daniel Whitney," the name should be, I am sure, Daniel Whiting. See "Mass. Soldiers and Sailors of the Revolutionary War," vol. 17, pp. 166-7.

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Baldwin, Thomas W., "The Drury Death Book," _NEHGR_, vol. LXV (1911), pp. 356-366.

[p. 356, deaths in Natick, MA] Mark Whitney of Natick Died June 23 1760 [p. 358] Jason wittney s Child died 8 day [April 1772] Jason wittney s wife died 22 may 1772 [p. 362] Ephraim Whittny Child Died the 9 Day of December 1794 [p. 364] James Whitney died May the 30 [1800] [p. 365] Jason Whitney's Child Natick Dec the 9 [1801] George Whitneys Child Natick Apr the 10 [1802]

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Hawes, Frank Mortimer, "Abstracts From Volume I. of the Probate Records of

 Orleans County, Vt.," _NEHGR_, vol. LXV (1911), pp. 374-379.

[p. 374] [9-17] The will of Hezekiah Whitney, Wolcott, signed 22 Nov. 1797, was presented for probate 7 Apr. 1801; wife Sarah Whitney (sole executrix); son-in-law John Parsellp; daughter Thankful Whitney "when 18"; sons Jeremiah Whitney, Zadock Whitney, Nathan Whitney, William Whitney, Josiah Whitney, Hezekiah Whitney, Jesse Whitney, Ira Whitney; daughters, Sarah, the wife of John Parsell, Hannah the wife of John G. Hyler, Margaret the wife of Henry Eaton. Witnesses, Thomas Taylor, Ezekiel Gillman, Jabez Fitch. On 31 July 1801 Josiah Whitney, one of the heirs, petitioned for a division; Thomas Taylor, Esq., Wolcott, made guardian of Ira Whitney. In the division, made 12 June 1802, lot No. 97 is mentioned as owned by said Whitney and the heirs of Levi Taylor of Norwalk, Fairfield Co., Conn. At a court held 4 Apr. 1803, Zadock Whitney was made administrator in room of Sarah Whitney, "lately deceased." As Jeremiah Whitney, Nathan Whitney, and the heirs of Hannah Hyler are not of this State, Thomas Taylor is made their agent. Final settlement 23 May 1804, by Zadock Whitney. [p. 375] [36-40] The will of Sarah Whitney, Wolcott, signed 27 Dec. 1802, was presented 21 Mar. 1803. To daughter Thankful Whitney, among other things, "my great bible"; daughter Sarah Parsell; "my other children," Jeremiah, Zadock, Nathan, William, Josiah, Hezekiah, Jesse, and Ira Whitney; the heirs of daughters Hannah and Margaret, deceased; reference made to her late husband, Hezekiah Whitney; Thomas Taylor, the executor. Witnesses, Gamaliel Taylor, Darius Fitch, Ezekiel Pond. Inventory taken 1 May 1803. [p. 377] [90-92] The will of Mary Sheppard, widow, late of Greensboro, signed 9 Jan. 1809 ... a bequest ... two sheep to Elizabeth, wife of Jesse Whitney of Walcott. ...

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H. L. Preston, "Notes," _NEHGR_, vol. LXV (1911), p. 382.

KNAP-PRESTON: -- On page 445 of the Reed Genealogy, by John Ludivicus Reed, it is stated that Dolly (Dorothy) Knap married first Otis Preston, secondly, Esqr. Whitney and removed to Uxbridge. This is incorrect as to the second marriage. She was married but once, and then to Otis Preston.

  Dolly Knap (dau. of Job and wife Ruth Reed) was born Sept. 2, 1776, at

Douglas, Mass., and married July 23, 1797, Otis Preston (son of Amariah and wife Susannah Wood) at Douglas, Mass. They settled at Roxbury, Delaware County, N.Y., and left a great many descendants. Dolly died January 24, 1828, at Roxbury, N.Y., and her husband died April 17, 1838, at the same place. He was a major-general in the New York state militia.

==

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:45:33 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: WHITNEY Extracts from the NEHGR, Part 13 To: [email protected]

Dear WRG,

Extracted from _The New England Historical and Genealogical Register_.

Enjoy!

==

Talcott, Mary K., "Records of the Church in South Killingly, Conn.,"

 _NEHGR_, vol. LXVI (1912), pp. 129-140.

[p. 134] Samll. Whitney Baptized April 5th 1778 on his own account [p. 136] Lucy Daughter to Samuel & Tabitha Whitney Baptized Sept ye 11. 1785

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Titus, Rev. Anson, "Notes," _NEHGR_, vol. LXVI (1912), pp. 186-187.

[p. 187] WATERTOWN TRAIN-BAND, 1652: -- [5 May 1652] ... Jonathan Whitney ...

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Talcott, Mary Kingsbury, "Records of Breakneck Hill Congregational Church,

 Killingly, Conn.," _NEHGR_, vol. LXVI (1912), pp. 337-340.

[p. 337] 1752 month not given Zerna Whitney, wife of Cornelius Whitney [admitted] from ch. in Mortlake. [p. 338] 1747 March Mathias, Son of Mathias Whitney and Alice his wife. [p. 339] 1752 Jany 12th Whitney, Son of Lebbeus Graves [baptized]. 1752 June Joshua, Son of Matthais Whitney and Alice his Wife.

==

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward

<img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

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