Mailing List Discussions, September 1998
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:02:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Barry Whitney <[email protected]> Subject: http://www.my-ged.com/publish.html To: [email protected]
Dave Wilks on <http://www.my-ged.com/publish.html> says:
Join my growing list of site owners who have published their genealogies on this free gedcom server. Let me construct your genealogy homepage and publish your gedcom as a searchable database now...
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Cousin: For those of you who don't already have your genealogy databases online, this seems to be an easy way to do it--Just send him a copy of your GEDCOM. It's even simpler than learning to use GED2HTML. And evidently you retain control of it yourself. What do you think of this idea? Barry
http://members.tripod.com/~bwhitney/
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Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 22:45:28
From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif">
Subject: Re: Olive Whitney
To: [email protected]
At 09:13 PM 9/2/98 -0500, Donna & Ralph Gosselin wrote: >I am posting this for a friend, who is looking for information on Olive >Whitney who married Rufus Scott. He was born Apr 1778 in Montague Mass. >She has no further info on Olive. Any help is appreciated. Ralph
Their marriage was recorded on 30 Jul 1797 in Montague, at which time both were called "of Montague." The WHITNEY families of Montague include Zachariah and Sarah (STANTON) WHITNEY and Ephraim and Rhoda (-----) WHITNEY. My guess is that she was a younger daughter of Zachariah and Sarah, but her birth seems not to be recorded.
Regards,
Robert
Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:23:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Barry Whitney <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Whitneys in Jefferson County, NY (fwd) To: [email protected]
Can we help Phil with this Joanna Whitney?
Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:24:21 -0400 From: Phil Ainsworth <[email protected]> To: Barry Whitney <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Whitneys in Jefferson County, NY
Hi, Barry:
I am researching Joanna Whitney b. 1787 (probably somewhere in New England) and her father is believed to be William Whitney. Mother unknown at this time.
Her first husband was Noahdiah Burr and they allegedly lived in Brownville/ Watertown area (Jefferson County, NY) although I have found no record to prove this. After his death she remarried to Philip Ainsworth (a widower) and they emigrated to Ontario (Upper Canada) with their combined families plus their own children in 1820.
Any help you can be on Joanna's ancestry would be greatly appreciated.
Phil
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 21:13:09 -0500
From: Donna & Ralph Gosselin <[email protected]>
Subject: Olive Whitney
To: [email protected]
I am posting this for a friend, who is looking for information on Olive Whitney who married Rufus Scott. He was born Apr 1778 in Montague Mass. She has no further info on Olive. Any help is appreciated. Ralph
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 22:55:42 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Lookup in Pierce's WHITNEY Genealogy To: [email protected]
Dear WRG:
I need a lookup from Pierce's _Descendants of John Whitney_. Please e-mail me if you are willing to transcribe certain short passages from that book and e-mail them to me.
Thanks!
Robert
Robert L. Ward
<img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 10:54:31 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Enough Lookup Volunteers To: [email protected]
Dear WRG,
Your generosity is overwhelming! I already have six volunteers to do the lookup I requested on Thursday, and one has already sent me some data.
Thanks for helping out!
Regards,
Robert
Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659
From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 01:59:37 EDT Subject: Your Genealogical Legacy To: [email protected]
Dear WRG:
I'm passing on an article that I picked up tonight from the Black-Sheep maillist. It caused me to think about what will happen to all my "stuff", and so I thought it might be valuable to one or more of the rest of you.
Allan E. Green
Edward H. Gaulin (Sr.) wrote this article for the Rochester (New York) Genealogical Society newsletter, "Hear Ye! Hear Ye!," in which it will appear in the December 1998 issue. The author is immediate past president of the Rochester Genealogical Society.
NOW WHAT DO I DO WITH ALL OF THIS STUFF?
by Edward Henry Gaulin (Sr.) <[email protected]>
A message on the Internet caught my eye the other day and I can't get it out of my mind. A West Coast genealogist had been exchanging information with a researcher in Virginia for some time. Then it happened. Her last message bounced -- it couldn't be delivered as the address no longer existed. Fortunately she had received a number of family group sheets from her correspondent which listed a telephone number. When she called the number a man answered, so she asked for her Internet friend and, after a slight hesitation was told, "Oh, Mary Ann passed away three weeks ago." Shocked, but ever gracious, she expressed her sympathy and commented how close this long-distance relationship had become and how it will be missed by her. The husband explained that he was sorry that he couldn't be of any help because he really didn't know much about what his wife was doing with her genealogy.
Perhaps you too have noticed at genealogical gatherings that the average age of the participants is something in excess of 39 years, at least judging by hair color. Most of us really don't have a lot of time to devote to our hobby until after the kids are grown, out of school and we've retired. Then it is no longer a hobby, it becomes an obsession. At some point in our continuous search for dead people, our ancestors, we recognize our own mortality and start to think about a permanent home for our research. If our children or grandchildren appear to be interested, we have it made, but frequently that's not the case. Then what happens to our "stuff"?
Genealogists are usually pretty smart people, until it comes to providing for the distribution of their genealogical assets. The latter, in my case anyway, is a room full of books, journals, magazines, pamphlets, maps, photographs, brochures, newsletters, computer equipment and furniture (desk, chairs, file cabinets, tables, lamps, etc.). The files are loaded with folders bearing family and town names, historic events, and a bunch labeled "MISC." There are miles of computer printouts, hundreds of photocopies, and many "original" vital records. My desk is usually loaded with correspondence awaiting an answer -- either mine or from someone else. What should my wife do with all this stuff when I make the ultimate research trip -- a personal meeting with my ancestors?
Some of our brighter colleagues say "My college library is getting all my stuff" or it's going to the local public library or to the LDS Family History Library in Salt Lake City or even to the Library of Congress. Well, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but unless you are a celebrity or a huge financial donor, these institutions probably won't want your material -- they just don't have room for it. They would be grateful for a copy of your book, but they might not want the manuscript or research notes. The FHL would appreciate a GEDCOM disk of your genealogy database files, but it doesn't want your paper pedigree charts or family group sheets.
So what are your spouse and children to do with all of your stuff? They could really do a couple of dumb things with it if you don't provide guidance to them while you still can. It could be placed in the weekly trash collection and don't say "They wouldn't do that" because it unfortunately happens all the time. How about a garage sale? Now that is really scary, but it also happens every day. Remember all those old photos and tintypes you have seen in flea markets? How about all those bargain genealogy books you bought because you got to that garage sale before the dealers did? They all had to come from someplace.
What should you do to insure the sane distribution of your genealogical assets? Perhaps the first thing is to make a record of what you have and then try to keep it current. Show the acquisition date and how much you paid for each item on the inventory sheets. This is especially helpful for artifacts, collections, and books. A photographic record of these items, including those of rare books, could also be useful. Microfilm, microfiche and complete photocopies of books and some records have value. Back issues of many journals, newsletters, and magazines are also in demand by genealogists and therefore have value. However, if you don't tell them what is valuable, your heirs probably won't know.
Now that you have identified your assets, you need to tell someone what you want done with them. Maybe the simplest way is to prepare a letter to your heirs, but remember this lacks the force of law. If they want to, they can toss everything in the trash. A better way to provide for the distribution is in your will, particularly if you also designate sufficient funds to carry out your wishes. Your Last Will and Testament is also where you may make specific bequests: your copy of the 1898 edition of Burke's Peerage to your FGS Conference roommate or your old roll-top desk to your newest granddaughter. Your wishes can now be enforced by the courts, if necessary.
If you still want to have any of your assets given to your alma mater or a local library or anywhere else, personally contact that agency and discuss the possibility -- right now. It won't come as a surprise to them and they should be able to advise you immediately of any conditions of acceptance. If you can support those conditions, ask for a written acknowledgment that can be placed with your will.
Some other things that you can do right now are to distribute copies of your research among your family, friends, and, perhaps, local or national libraries. This is simple if you have progressed to the book-writing stage, but don't be too concerned if you haven't. Many genealogists assemble their pedigree charts, group sheets, pertinent vital records, selected family photographs, and other important documents in notebook form. They write a brief introduction, provide a table of contents, and sometimes an index before having copies made for distribution. Afterwards, the notebook can be kept current with a new year's letter which might include new charts and photos.
Computerized genealogical data can be distributed in the same way on diskette. Sometimes an envelope or jacket is provided in the notebook described above to house data disks. Another way some researchers try to insure the safeguarding of their electronic data is to submit it to the LDS Ancestral File (tm) or one or more of the other commercial collections. If you don't know how to do this, consult your local genealogical society or Family History Center or even the public library for instructions.
Another thing you can do right now to benefit your heirs is to clean up your files. Eliminate unnecessary correspondence and duplicate copies of records. Toss out all those old printouts you made in 1984 on your Apple IIe computer. Sell all the "Genealogical Helper" magazines you have saved since 1973, because you will never open one of them again and you know it. If you get 50 cents each for them you can have a pretty good dinner. Give away all that old computer software that is taking up room on your bookshelves -- it's probably not worth anything anyway. Label your photographs, and diskettes too.
I find it a bit morbid, but you may wish to write your epitaph and select your tombstone now to insure future researchers will not encounter some of the same problems that you've had.
If you decide to follow some of these suggestions, when you do eventually meet your ancestors they may thank you for perpetuating their memory. They may also show you where you made some of your mistakes and be able to fill in a few of the blank spaces in your previous research.
Remember, do it now; there may be no tomorrow.
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Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne W. Muse" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Your Genealogical Legacy Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 07:40:00 -0400 To: [email protected]
WRG: I hope everyone read this article that Allan Green posted and will heed its advice!! While I am still on this earth, I plan to try and find a place for all my "stuff" and will be cleaning it out ! !
A matter of opinion - why not bequeath all of your data and records to another genealogist (preferrably in a younger generation) in your will? Many of us find that none of our immediate relatives are the least bit interested in genealogy ... but might get the "bug" later in their lives. Make sure the surviving family members know where the data is located.
And ... where should we genealogists put the valuable Original Documents for safekeeping? A bank's safety deposit box??
- -) Jeanne (Whitney) Muse
[email protected] http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwmuse/roots.htm
Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, September 06, 1998 2:01 AM Subject: Your Genealogical Legacy
>Dear WRG:
>
>I'm passing on an article that I picked up tonight from the Black-Sheep
>maillist. It caused me to think about what will happen to all my "stuff",
and
>so I thought it might be valuable to one or more of the rest of you.
>
>Allan E. Green
>
>Edward H. Gaulin (Sr.) wrote this article for the Rochester (New
>York) Genealogical Society newsletter, "Hear Ye! Hear Ye!," in
>which it will appear in the December 1998 issue. The author is
>immediate past president of the Rochester Genealogical Society.
>
> NOW WHAT DO I DO WITH ALL OF THIS STUFF?
>
> by Edward Henry Gaulin (Sr.) <[email protected]>
>
>A message on the Internet caught my eye the other day and I can't
>get it out of my mind. A West Coast genealogist had been
>exchanging information with a researcher in Virginia for some
>time. Then it happened. Her last message bounced -- it couldn't
>be delivered as the address no longer existed. Fortunately she
>had received a number of family group sheets from her
>correspondent which listed a telephone number. When she called
>the number a man answered, so she asked for her Internet friend
>and, after a slight hesitation was told, "Oh, Mary Ann passed
>away three weeks ago." Shocked, but ever gracious, she expressed
>her sympathy and commented how close this long-distance
>relationship had become and how it will be missed by her. The
>husband explained that he was sorry that he couldn't be of any
>help because he really didn't know much about what his wife was
>doing with her genealogy.
>
>Perhaps you too have noticed at genealogical gatherings that the
>average age of the participants is something in excess of 39
>years, at least judging by hair color. Most of us really don't
>have a lot of time to devote to our hobby until after the kids
>are grown, out of school and we've retired. Then it is no longer
>a hobby, it becomes an obsession. At some point in our continuous
>search for dead people, our ancestors, we recognize our own
>mortality and start to think about a permanent home for our
>research. If our children or grandchildren appear to be
>interested, we have it made, but frequently that's not the case.
>Then what happens to our "stuff"?
>
>Genealogists are usually pretty smart people, until it comes to
>providing for the distribution of their genealogical assets. The
>latter, in my case anyway, is a room full of books, journals,
>magazines, pamphlets, maps, photographs, brochures, newsletters,
>computer equipment and furniture (desk, chairs, file cabinets,
>tables, lamps, etc.). The files are loaded with folders bearing
>family and town names, historic events, and a bunch labeled
>"MISC." There are miles of computer printouts, hundreds of
>photocopies, and many "original" vital records. My desk is
>usually loaded with correspondence awaiting an answer -- either
>mine or from someone else. What should my wife do with all this
>stuff when I make the ultimate research trip -- a personal
>meeting with my ancestors?
>
>Some of our brighter colleagues say "My college library is
>getting all my stuff" or it's going to the local public library
>or to the LDS Family History Library in Salt Lake City or even to
>the Library of Congress. Well, I hate to be the one to tell you
>this, but unless you are a celebrity or a huge financial donor,
>these institutions probably won't want your material -- they just
>don't have room for it. They would be grateful for a copy of your
>book, but they might not want the manuscript or research notes.
>The FHL would appreciate a GEDCOM disk of your genealogy database
>files, but it doesn't want your paper pedigree charts or family
>group sheets.
>
>So what are your spouse and children to do with all of your
>stuff? They could really do a couple of dumb things with it if
>you don't provide guidance to them while you still can. It could
>be placed in the weekly trash collection and don't say "They
>wouldn't do that" because it unfortunately happens all the time.
>How about a garage sale? Now that is really scary, but it also
>happens every day. Remember all those old photos and tintypes you
>have seen in flea markets? How about all those bargain genealogy
>books you bought because you got to that garage sale before the
>dealers did? They all had to come from someplace.
>
>What should you do to insure the sane distribution of your
>genealogical assets? Perhaps the first thing is to make a record
>of what you have and then try to keep it current. Show the
>acquisition date and how much you paid for each item on the
>inventory sheets. This is especially helpful for artifacts,
>collections, and books. A photographic record of these items,
>including those of rare books, could also be useful. Microfilm,
>microfiche and complete photocopies of books and some records
>have value. Back issues of many journals, newsletters, and
>magazines are also in demand by genealogists and therefore have
>value. However, if you don't tell them what is valuable, your
>heirs probably won't know.
>
>Now that you have identified your assets, you need to tell
>someone what you want done with them. Maybe the simplest way is
>to prepare a letter to your heirs, but remember this lacks the
>force of law. If they want to, they can toss everything in the
>trash. A better way to provide for the distribution is in your
>will, particularly if you also designate sufficient funds to
>carry out your wishes. Your Last Will and Testament is also where
>you may make specific bequests: your copy of the 1898 edition of
>Burke's Peerage to your FGS Conference roommate or your old
>roll-top desk to your newest granddaughter. Your wishes can now
>be enforced by the courts, if necessary.
>
>If you still want to have any of your assets given to your alma
>mater or a local library or anywhere else, personally contact
>that agency and discuss the possibility -- right now. It won't
>come as a surprise to them and they should be able to advise you
>immediately of any conditions of acceptance. If you can support
>those conditions, ask for a written acknowledgment that can be
>placed with your will.
>
>Some other things that you can do right now are to distribute
>copies of your research among your family, friends, and, perhaps,
>local or national libraries. This is simple if you have
>progressed to the book-writing stage, but don't be too concerned
>if you haven't. Many genealogists assemble their pedigree charts,
>group sheets, pertinent vital records, selected family
>photographs, and other important documents in notebook form. They
>write a brief introduction, provide a table of contents, and
>sometimes an index before having copies made for distribution.
>Afterwards, the notebook can be kept current with a new year's
>letter which might include new charts and photos.
>
>Computerized genealogical data can be distributed in the same way
>on diskette. Sometimes an envelope or jacket is provided in the
>notebook described above to house data disks. Another way some
>researchers try to insure the safeguarding of their electronic
>data is to submit it to the LDS Ancestral File (tm) or one or
>more of the other commercial collections. If you don't know how
>to do this, consult your local genealogical society or Family
>History Center or even the public library for instructions.
>
>Another thing you can do right now to benefit your heirs is to
>clean up your files. Eliminate unnecessary correspondence and
>duplicate copies of records. Toss out all those old printouts you
>made in 1984 on your Apple IIe computer. Sell all the
>"Genealogical Helper" magazines you have saved since 1973,
>because you will never open one of them again and you know it. If
>you get 50 cents each for them you can have a pretty good dinner.
>Give away all that old computer software that is taking up room
>on your bookshelves -- it's probably not worth anything anyway.
>Label your photographs, and diskettes too.
>
>I find it a bit morbid, but you may wish to write your epitaph
>and select your tombstone now to insure future researchers will
>not encounter some of the same problems that you've had.
>
>If you decide to follow some of these suggestions, when you do
>eventually meet your ancestors they may thank you for
>perpetuating their memory. They may also show you where you made
>some of your mistakes and be able to fill in a few of the blank
>spaces in your previous research.
>
>Remember, do it now; there may be no tomorrow.
>
> * * * * *
>
>
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>unless specifically stated otherwise, PROVIDED: (1) the reprint
>is used for non-commercial, educational purposes; (2) full credit
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>crediting MISSING LINKS (volume, number, publication date) and
>the author (name, e-mail address, and URL, if applicable).
>
>
From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 22:34:01 EDT Subject: Levi Whitney of Stow, ca 1800 To: [email protected]
Dear WRG:
I find myself in a state of confusion (a place I find myself frequently). There is a Levi Whitney, b. 1 Jan 1777 in Westminster, MA, son of Abner and Elizabeth Whitney. There is a marriage in Westminster in 1799 (Oct 15) for a Levi Whitney and a Rebecca Warren, and this would appear to be the marriage of this Levi Whitney, age 22+.
There is also another Levi Whitney, b. 11 Nov 1780 in Stow, MA, son of Dea. Jacob and Esther/Easter Walcott Whitney. There is a marriage in Stow for a Levi Whitney and a Rebecca Warren on 10 May 1804. This is the family that I was trying to work on, and there were no children reported in the Stow VR's for a Levi and Rebecca Whitney, so I dug out my collected VR's and started looking elsewhere. In Gardner, MA, I found a son born in 1810 and then trouble reared its ugly head. A daughter was born in 1801!! Now a lot of our ancestors did have children that were born less than 9 months after a wedding, but I can remember only one instance we have discussed where the child was born before the wedding, and NOT three years! I wondered if I had messed up on the date of the marriage, so I dug out Robert Ward's Index to the VR entries, and lo and behold, there are two Levi Whitneys married to two Rebecca Warrens - and these children in Gardner seem to be the progeny of the couple from Westminster, married in 1799.
I also found two children baptized in Bolton in 1818 and 1824 to "Levi and wife", but the only marriage of a Levi in Bolton is to a Dorcas Warren in 1836. There is a death in the Bolton VR's of _______, w. Levi, 1835, which "could" be Rebecca, the first wife of Levi of Stow, (and that is confirmed in the Stow VR's, where it specifies Rebecca, w. Levi, d. 19 Jul 1835) and the second marriage "could" be to her (spinster?) sister Dorcas, but that's a lot of "could". It is also a bit surprising if the two children baptized above were the only children of a couple married in 1804.
There are children born in Boylston to a Levi and Rebeckah between 1801 and 1816, but they are Levi Whitney and Rebeckah Fassett - of that town and married there in 1800.
I can find no other VR that has children born to a Levi and Rebecca Whitney in the early 1800's. Does anyone have any idea where this Levi and Rebecca Whitney (of Stow) may have been between their marriage in 1804 and the baptism of a son in 1818 in Bolton (and that's assuming that these are the children of this marriage - a risky assumption at this point)?
Any help or insight would be very helpful and much appreciated.
Allan E. Green
From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 23:37:59 EDT Subject: (no subject) To: [email protected]
Dear WRG:
Picked this up through the generosity of Janice Farnsworth on the NE-Roots list, who posted the URL
The one Whitney in the list is 95 years old in 1920 and was born in MA, an inmate on the County Farm (which I assume is the poorhouse).
Allan
1920 Census Saxtons River Vermont
34 345A
Hulburt, Vernon mgr 35 VT manager, town farm
, May wife 34 VT
Burt, Lyndon inmate 88 VT
Smith, Sylvester S inmate 67 VT
Chapman, James inmate 80 wd Scotland
Cook, Cyrus M. inmate 50 MA
Whitney, Frederick inmate 95 MA
Leach, Emma inmate 77 VT
Weber, Wilfred A. inmate 12 NH
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 09:25:20 From: "Robert L. Ward" <<img src="/robertward.gif">> Subject: Newport, NH, Cemetery Records To: [email protected]
I culled these from the following webpage:
<http://www.NewportNH.com/Ancestors/index.htm>
Northville Cemetery, Newport, N. H.
Whitney, Carrie N., 1868-1926, Wife of Frank Whitney Whitney, Frank G., 1865-1926 Whitney, George F. Sr, 1839-1908
Maple Street Cemetery, Newport, N. H.
Whitney, A. Whitney, G. Whitney, O. Whitney, S. Whitney, S.
Can anyone identify these people?
Regards,
Robert
Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659
From: "Janet Duffield" <[email protected]> Subject: George Addison Whitney Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 06:14:54 -0400 To: [email protected]
I am looking for George Addison Whitney, born in Wisconsin in 1854, he had a son Lemuel Lech Whitney, nicknamed Silverthorn. Does anyone have any information????
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 13:08:40 -0400 From: Bert Smith <[email protected]> Subject: Whitney12.ged? Sender: Bert Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected]
Two questions:
Is Whitney12.ged still the most current version of the John and Elinor genealogy?
What is the easiest way to download it?
Bert Smith
From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:39:41 EDT Subject: Whitney To: [email protected]
well call me dumb but where do you get Whitney12.ged????? Hope
From: [email protected] Date: 9 Sep 1998 09:17:22 CST/CDT Subject: Ada Whitney; Milo, ME To: [email protected]
Dear WRG:
While visiting the Evergreen cemetery in Milo, ME, I happened across a headstone with the following inscriptions:
Andrew W. Livermore May 11, 1849 - Jan. 16, 1926 Ada G. Whitney his wife May 10, 1854 - Jan. 15, 1946
This Andrew Livermore is brother to Mary Livermore, who m. Andrew Whitney. Does anyone have a clue as to who Ada Whitney might be? I'm wondering if she was a relative to Andrew, whose parents I'm still trying to track down. I can't find her in the Whitney gedcom files.
Greg Cote Edwards, IL
From: [email protected] Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 01:37:47 EDT Subject: Fwd: [BlackSheep-L] AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!! <VBG>
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Dear WRG (and Ron):
This is too good to keep to myself
Allan E. Green
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From: [email protected] (nan) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 01:07:25 EDT Subject: [BlackSheep-L] AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!! <VBG> To: [email protected]
An item from The New York Times, Sunday, November 2, 1997, page 33, "Metropolitan Diary" By Ron Alexander:
"Dear Diary:
An older friend, recently returned from her home town in North
Carolina, says they've spruced up the churchyard cemetery since her last
visit several years back. "Lots of new greenery," she said. "And
families are together now."
"Together?" I asked, puzzled.
"Well, years ago they never much worried where they buried
someone because everyone was a neighbor anyhow. They'd just dig a grave
wherever it seemed to balance things. But they've redone it so people
are with their children and grandchildren, instead of scattered."
"You mean they exhumed all those people and buried them?"
"Oh no," she said. "They just shifted the headstones. Everyone
agrees it looks ever so much nicer."
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From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 06:08:34 EDT Subject: Claricy/Claresy Whitney of Harvard, MA, 1790's To: [email protected]
Dear NE-Rooters & WRG friends:
I have just run across a "contradiction" about the above person - or possibly persons. The Harvard, MA, Vital Records show the birth of a Claresy Whitney to Dea. Isaac and Lucy (Meed) Whitney on 23 Oct 1791. The same Harvard VR's show a death of a Claricy Whitney, also shown as d.o. Dea. Isaac and Lucy Whitney, on 8 Sep 1796, but the record (transcription) that I have also says aged 10 months, 10 days. This would provide a birthdate of 29 Oct 1795, rather than the 23 Oct 1791 shown in the birth record.
Since I am working from extracted Whitney VR's, there may be a transcription error here, either in the birthdate, the death date, or the months and days of life. Could someone with access to the printed VR's for Harvard, check the book and see if the information in it is as I have shown above? If it is, then are there really two Claresy/Claricy Whitneys, one born in 1791 for whom there is no death record, and one dying in 1796 for whom there is no birth record (and that includes a search of over 185 other towns in MA for this period).
Any assistance in clearing up this mystery would be much appreciated.
Allan E. Green <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:42:47 -0400 From: Bert Smith <[email protected]> Subject: Henrietta, b1797? Sender: Bert Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected]
Crew:
In working on my Taft Family project I came across a Henrietta Whitney, born 1797, who married Ephraim Baylies in Uxbridge, MA in 1823. This Henrietta does not show up in Whitney12.ged. Does anyone know anything about her?
Bert
From: [email protected] Subject: Whitney family in Vermont Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 00:01:50 -0000 To: [email protected]
Hi!
Can someone help me find some info on the Whitney family in Vermont?
I'm particularly looking for Abel Whitney (born 1779) from Guilford, Windham county.
Thanks! Jeri Williams
From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 06:41:00 EDT Subject: Stow, MA, Vital Records Lookup Needed To: [email protected]
Dear NE-Rooters & WRG:
In looking at the extracted Whitney VR's from Stow, I notice that Thomas and Elizabeth Whitney (Whetney in the listings) have two sons born about three weeks apart. The listing that I have shows:
Benjamin Whetney, s. Thomas and Elizabeth, Oct. 7, [16]87 Thomas Whetney, s. Thomas and Elizabeth, Sept. 17, 1687
I would hope that someone who has access to the printed volume of Stow VR's might assist with a check of what is actually printed. Another Whitney researcher has "corrected?" the second entry for Thomas to the year 1681, and that may actually be what is printed, but mistranscribed in the process of extracting the Whitney (Whetney) entries.
Thank you very much.
Allan E. Green
From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 02:23:37 EDT Subject: For What its Worth To: [email protected]
Dear WRG:
I know nothing about this program, but I picked up the information below on another list and thought someone might be interested.
Allan
Free Genealogy Software
I had a pleasant surprise at a local store several days ago. The CompUSA store near my home is giving away free copies of one of the most powerful genealogy programs available today (according to Compuserve's Genealogy Guru Dick Eastman). The word "free" is perhaps a bit questionable; but nonetheless, the final cost to consumers is zero.
ALL CompUSA stores are selling The Ultimate Family Tree for Windows for $59.99. The same store also offers an "in store instant rebate" for $14.99 which has to be asked for sometimes (if they ring it up for the $59.99 regular price- have them check with their national headquarters at 1-800-278-4685 and verify that the skew # - 188406 - for the Ultimate Family Tree gives an instant rebate with ALL CompUSA stores thru Oct. 6, 1998). Therefore the purchaser must pay $45.00 to the cashier instead of $59.99. The store also has rebate forms printed by Palladium Interactive, producers of the Ultimate Family Tree. The buyer can fill out the form and mail it, all along with the cash register receipt and the UPC symbol from the box, to an address in Arizona. A few weeks later a check arrives in the mail for $45.00. That amount is the same amount handed to the cashier. Therefore, the final cost is zero (except for sales tax in your State for $45).
Comment from Compuserve's Dick Eastman their Genealogy Guru: I have never been able to define which program is the "best" genealogy program for use by everyone. Different people have varying skill levels and interests, and I don't believe there is any one genealogy program that is perfect for everyone. However, if I were to create a list of today's top three or four genealogy programs, the Ultimate Family Tree by Palladium Interactive certainly would be on that list. It is one of the most powerful genealogy programs available today.
For more information on the Ultimate Family Tree Program, look at: http://www.ultimatefamilytree.com/.
Tim Spradling
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 03:31:22 -0400 From: Vickie Elam White <[email protected]> Subject: Urian WHITNEY-Martha HART in CT Sender: Vickie Elam White <[email protected]> To: [email protected]
I'm posting this for an acquaintance. Please send responses to her directly to her. Her name is Marjorie Wilser and her email is [email protected]
I need help finding my ancestor's MAIDEN NAME and PARENTS! (birth & death
needed too)
She was Martha HART, married (1) Daniel OWEN (Farmington or Hartford CT) (widowed 1759); (2) married to Urian WHITNEY (widower, of Simsbury CT) 20 Mar 1776. [this date from Early CR Marriages... prior to 1800, by Frederick Bailey]
- WHO CAN HELP ME FIND MARTHA'S PARENTS?** I've checked every local source
I can find.
- DEATH RECORD FOR URIAH WHITNEY, OR MARTHA WHITNEY, MAY SOLVE
IT**
Anybody got a clue (or better yet, a reference work!?)
--- Marjorie Wilser [email protected]
Thanks for any and all tips,
Marjorie
Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne W. Muse" <[email protected]> Subject: Uriah Whitney & Martha Hart Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 05:56:22 -0400 To: [email protected]
Martha Wilser [email protected] wrote: >>I need help finding my ancestor's MAIDEN NAME and PARENTS! (birth & death needed too)
She was Martha HART, married (1) Daniel OWEN (Farmington or Hartford CT) (widowed 1759); (2) married to Urian WHITNEY (widower, of Simsbury CT) 20 Mar 1776. [this date from Early CR Marriages... prior to 1800, by Frederick Bailey]
- WHO CAN HELP ME FIND MARTHA'S PARENTS?** I've checked every local source I
can find.
- DEATH RECORD FOR URIAH WHITNEY, OR MARTHA WHITNEY, MAY SOLVE
IT**
Anybody got a clue (or better yet, a reference work!?)<<
Dear Martha: I maintain the Henry Whitney of LI and CT database for our "Whitney Research Group". The majority of the information comes from Phoenix's books on the Whitneys, and some has been added using vital records and additions from Gedcoms.
Uriah Whitney was the son of Nathan Whitney and Sarah Platt. He is Uriah-4 Whitney (Nathan-3, John-2, Henry-1). He was born 12 Nov 1737, Ridgefield, CT and died 4 Jun 1816, E. Granville, Mass.
He married 1st: Sarah Platt (because of the coincidence in names for mother and wife, I've always thought this was an error, but haven't proved otherwise.) - no dates on file for wife Sarah.
He married 2nd on 20 Mar 1774 in Farmington-Avon, Hartford County, CT, Martha Hart. On their marriage record, Uriah is listed as "of Simsbury" and her name was listed as Martha (Hart) Owen.
Martha Hart was born 13 Jul 1739 in Farmington-Avon, Hartford County, CT and died 5 Mar 1819 in E. Granville, Mass.
Child of Uriah Whitney and Sarah Platt: Azariah Whitney (no birth or death dates on file)
Children of Uriah Whitney and Martha Hart were: 1) Samuel Platt Whitney (b. 8 Nov 1775, Simsbury, CT; d. 15 Dec 1871, Montville, Ohio; married Lois Buttles on 10 Mar 1799 in N. Granby, CT) 2) Lucy Whitney (b. 1 May 1779, Simsbury, Ct; d. 5 Nov 1848, N. Lee, Mass.; married Jonathan Buttles on 28 Nov 1798 in E. Granville, Mass.) 3) Seth Whitney (b. 19 Apr 1781, Simsbury, CT; d. Abt 1784 Simsbury, CT) 4) Thaddeus Whitney (b. 18 Dec 1783, Simsbury, CT; d. 30 Aug 1855, Granville, Mass.)
Samuel Platt Whitney and Lois Buttles had 12 children -- their first son was named Samuel HART Whitney.
Unfortunately, no "sources" are listed within our database on these families. I can only assume the information was supplied from Phoenix.
- -) Jeanne (Whitney) Muse
[email protected] Member of the Whitney Research Group on Rootsweb
From: [email protected]
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:39:17 EDT
Subject: Re: Stow, MA, Vital Records - Correction needed???
To: [email protected]
Dear Marilyn & WRG:
I really hadn't intended to turn the question of the Stow VR entry into a full-blown analysis of the details of the timing of the children of Thomas-3 Whitney, but since it seems to be heading that way, here goes.
Marilyn wrote: Stow vitals have exactly as you have listed. Have you looked at the Whitney Genealogy?
Which Whitney Genealogy? - the Pierce book on the descendants of John and Elinor? I would have to ask Jon Aston, as all I have is a microfilm copy, which is almost impossible to find things in. In addition, given the occasional errors in that source, I would be hesitant to change anything on the basis of Pierce alone. Jon, perhaps you could help out on this. For reference, to save going back and digging out old mail, we are talking about the entry for the birth of Thomas-4, s.o. Thomas-3 and Elizabeth Lawrence Whitney.
The Whitny12 database? The latter has given the year 1781 for Thomas' birth, despite the Stow VR showing 1787. This is also consistent with Robert Ward's 6-Generation descent of J&E, which also agrees on the 1781 date. This date would also work well with the marriage date in the Watertown records for the parents, that being 29 Jan 1678(/1679), putting the birth of the first child 2-1/2 years after the marriage (Jan 1679 to Sep 1681), rather than Elizabeth, born mid-Feb 1682(/1683), which puts the time between marriage and first child at a little over four years. I agree that this is the "most likely" answer.
It makes sense in several ways - first, it would make Thomas the first child, and as the male first child, being named for the father is very common. It would require treating the birthdate for the second child, Elizabeth as actually being in February1782/83, otherwise there would only be five months between Sept 1781 and Feb 1782, but that, too, is highly probable anyway and simply consistent with the practice at that time.
What I really hope is that whoever submitted this line to Jon for inclusion will have some other, independent source that will confirm the 1781 change. Such might be a family bible with contemporary entries, a listing of children in a will that states "in the order of their birth" or "my eldest son, Thomas." I would be delighted to take anything like that as a basis for "correcting" the Vital Record.
The one thing that is clear is that there is an error somewhere, what is not clear is what that error is. Until that time, I am hesitant about a database entry that conflicts with the Vital Record source. It certainly conflicts with my current project of adding source citations to every piece of data in the Whitny12 database for which I can find a VR source. For better or for worse, I have been "correcting" the data in the Whitny12 db where it conflicts with the Vital Records, taking the latter as the better information.
Any and all help will be most appreciated.
Allan E. Green
From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 21:35:28 EDT Subject: Re: Stow, MA, Vital Records - Correction needed??? To: [email protected]
In a message dated 9/18/98 2:44:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
<< [email protected] >>
Hello Allan,
I looked-up Thomas/Elizabeth in Pierce and it seems that the information in our database originated from Pierce, he agrees in every detail. Note that Thomas 4, born 9/17/1681, is the first child of Thomas and Elizabeth, they were married in 1679, and Benjamin 4 born, 10/7/1687 is their fifth child.
Keep in touch
Jon Aston
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 11:16:50 -0700 From: Paul & Brenda Nichols <[email protected]>
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: CENSUS SUBSTITUTE To: [email protected]
I bought an old book dated 1888 by Artemus Ward. It was about >> his adventurous journey across the United States with his >> travelling show. One chapter is on taking the Federal Census. >> Read on.... >> >> The Sences taker in our town bein taken sick, he deppertised >> me to go out for him one day, and as he was too ill to giv me >> informashun how to perceed, I was consekently compelled to go >> it blind >> >> Sittin down by the road side I drawd up the follerin list of >> questions which I proposed to ax the peple I visited: >> >> - Wat's your age? >> >> - Whar was you barn? >> How many parents have you? >> Hav you a twin brother several years older than yourself? >> How many chickins hav you, on foot and in shell? >> >> - Air you marrid, and if so how do you like it? >> How many children hav you, and do they sufficiently >> resemble you as to proclood the possibility of their >> belongin to any of your nabers? >> >> - Did you ever hav the measels, and if so how many? >> Air you trubeld with biles? >> State whether you air blind, deaf, idiotic or got the >> heaves. >> >> - Do you read Watt's Hims regler? >> Do you use boughten tobacker? >> Wat's your fightin wate? >> Is Beans a regler article of diet in your family? >> >> - Air you aware that Indianny whisky is used in New York? >> Was you ever at Niagry Falls? Was you ever in the >> Penitentiary? >> >> Well, I got into a row at the first house I stopt to with some >> old maids. Disbeliven the answers they giv regardin their ages, >> I endevered to open their mouths and look at their teeth, same as >> they do with hosses, but they floo into a vilent rage and tackled >> me with brooms and sich. All goes to show that takin the sences >> requires experiunse, like any other bizniss
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:47:49 From: "Robert L. Ward" <<img src="/robertward.gif">> Subject: Re: Whitney family in Vermont To: [email protected]
At 12:01 AM 9/16/98 -0000, you wrote: >Hi! > Can someone help me find some info on the Whitney family in Vermont? >I'm particularly looking for Abel Whitney (born 1779) from Guilford, >Windham county. > > Thanks! > Jeri Williams
Putney, VT, vital records list, on p. 123:
WHITNEY, Abel, son Elijah and Lydia, born Feb. 15, 1778.
For more on him and his ancestry, see:
<http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/john/john39.html#i457>
(Note the birth date given there is incorrectly said to be 1780.) If you can add any information, please send it to me.
Regards,
Robert
Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659
From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 20:42:55 EDT Subject: misc WHITNEY's To: [email protected]
in doing some research here in the chicago area... i came across the
following WHITNEY's that i thought would share with the group...if you have the information...great...if not well here it is...
1880 chicago ward 12 & 13 microfilm
WHITNEY evastus h. (commision merchant) white/male age 61
cordelia (wife) (keeping house) white/female age 62
Eugene W. (physician) white/male age 26
address for the above: 174 Warren Avenue, Chicago Illinois
WHITNEY John W. (Coal dealer) white/male age 48 from NY and Parents NY NY
Maggie J. (wife) (keeping house) age 26 from IL Parents VA, KY
John W. age 2 (son)
address for the above: 714 Lake Street, Chicago, Illinois
WHITNEY Huey (proof-reader) age 28 from NH parents NH NH
Widowed
William age 2 (son) born Iowa
Louisa MC ALLISTER sister age 48 from NH parents NH NH
I myself have not made a hook up with the above but am still working on it...but thought I would share the information found
again please note the above was from the 1880 chicago ward 12 & 13 microfilm census...have fun hunting for those lost ancestors...
Sender: [email protected] From: "Jeanne W. Muse" <[email protected]> Subject: Web Site on Reunions Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 09:06:56 -0400 To: [email protected]
Hello WRG: Got a message last week inviting me to take a look at a web page called Family Reunion Index. While there is no Whitney Reunion site linked, I thought I'd pass it along for anyone researching other surnames. Here it is:
The site is located at http://www.reunionindex.com/list.html
Maybe it'll help someone.
- -) Jeanne
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 22:32:59 From: "Robert L. Ward" <<img src="/robertward.gif">> Subject: Tryphena WHITNEY, dau. of Ebenezer of VT To: [email protected]
Melva,
At 04:40 PM 9/20/98 +0000, you wrote: >Do you have any information on Ebenezer Whitney from VT, who had a >daughter Tryphena b in about 1700? > >Thanks > >Mel
No, sorry. Since Vermont wasn't settled until the late 1700's, I assume you mean "about 1800". I will forward this message to the WHITNEY-L mailing list, and perhaps someone on that list can find this person for you.
Regards,
Robert
Robert L. Ward
<img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659
From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:18:54 EDT
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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:16:19 -0500 From: Marsha Wilcox <[email protected]> Organization: Perpetually Behind!
"Lake Co. Genie Mailing list" <[email protected]>
Subject: Humor [Fwd: Interesting Inscriptions] To: [email protected]
Enjoy!
Marsha
> > On the grave of Ezekial Aikle in East Dalhousie Cemetery, Nova Scotia: > Here lies > Ezekial Aikle > Age 102 > The Good > Die Young. > > In a London, England cemetery: > Ann Mann > Here lies Ann Mann, > Who lived an old maid > But died an old Mann. > Dec. 8, 1767 > > In a Ribbesford, England, cemetery: > Anna Wallace > The children of Israel wanted bread > And the Lord sent them manna, > Old clerk Wallace wanted a wife, > And the Devil sent him Anna. > > Playing with names in a Ruidoso, New Mexico, cemetery: > Here lies > Johnny Yeast > Pardon me > For not rising. > > Memory of an accident in a Uniontown, Pennsylvania cemetery: > Here lies the body > of Jonathan Blake > Stepped on the gas > Instead of the brake. > > In a Silver City, Nevada, cemetery: > Here lays Butch, > We planted him raw. > He was quick on the trigger, > But slow on the draw. > > A widow wrote this epitaph in a Vermont cemetery: > Sacred to the memory of > my husband John Barnes > who died January 3, 1803 > His comely young widow, aged 23, has > many qualifications of a good wife, and > yearns to be comforted. > > A lawyer's epitaph in England: > Sir John Strange > Here lies an honest lawyer, > And that is Strange. > > Someone determined to be anonymous in Stowe, Vermont: > I was somebody. > Who, is no business > Of yours. > > Lester Moore was a Wells, Fargo Co. station agent for Naco, Arizona in > the cowboy days of the 1880's. He's buried in the Boot Hill Cemetery in > > Tombstone, Arizona: > Here lies Lester Moore > Four slugs from a .44 > No Les No More. > > In a Georgia cemetery: > "I told you I was sick!" > > John Penny's epitaph in the Wimborne, England, cemetery: > Reader if cash thou art > In want of any > Dig 4 feet deep > And thou wilt find a Penny. > > On Margaret Daniels grave at Hollywood Cemetery Richmond, Virginia: > She always said her feet were killing her > but nobody believed her. > > In a cemetery in Hartscombe, England: > On the 22nd of June > - Jonathan Fiddle - > Went out of tune. > > Anna Hopewell's grave in Enosburg Falls, Vermont has an epitaph that > sounds like something from a Three Stooges movie: > Here lies the body of our Anna > Done to death by a banana > It wasn't the fruit that laid her low > But the skin of the thing that made her go. > > More fun with names with Owen Moore in Battersea, London, England: > Gone away > Owin' more > Than he could pay. > > Someone in Winslow, Maine didn't like Mr. Wood: > In Memory of Beza Wood > Departed this life > Nov. 2, 1837 > Aged 45 yrs. > Here lies one Wood > Enclosed in wood > One Wood > Within another. > The outer wood > Is very good: > We cannot praise > The other. > > On a grave from the 1880's in Nantucket, Massachusetts: > Under the sod and under the trees > Lies the body of Jonathan Pease. > He is not here, there's only the pod: > Pease shelled out and went to God. > > The grave of Ellen Shannon in Girard, Pennsylvania is almost a consumer > tip: > Who was fatally burned > March 21, 1870 > by the explosion of a lamp > filled with "R.E. Danforth's > Non-Explosive Burning Fluid" > > Oops! Harry Edsel Smith of Albany, New York: > Born 1903--Died 1942 > Looked up the elevator shaft to see if > the car was on the way down. It was. > > In a Thurmont, Maryland, cemetery: > Here lies an Atheist > All dressed up > And no place to go. > > But does he make house calls? > Dr. Fred Roberts > Brookland, Arkansas: > Office upstairs
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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 00:36:43 -0500 From: Lorne & Joan Reznowski <[email protected]> Subject: Another Whitney Goes Out in Style in Chicago To: [email protected]
Another Whitney Goes Out in Style in Chicago
...From the Kalamazoo Gazette...a large obituary that appeared in the August 5th edition -- for a dog!
The big display ad pictured the deceased with its owner... and read,
in part:
"Dearest Friends, "Our beloved, Whitney, peacefully passed away in my loving arms on
July 2nd after losing her brave battle with cancer.
"As most of you know, Whitney was more than a pet, she was an
extraordinary soul...a friend to everyone she met...and my treasured child. In honor of her life, a Mass was celebrated at Holy Name Catheral in Chicago [all ellipses and italics in original].
"Whitney received the finest medical care available in both Michigan
and Chicago..."
"The grieving owner then thanked all those "who kept Whitney in the
grand style she became accustomed to for the past decade":
On the list: Louis Vuitton, Tiffany & Co., Marshall Field's, Ritz
Carleton, Gucci, Cartier, Inc., Neiman Marcus, Saks Fifth Avenue, and, last but bot least, Holy Name Cathedral.
(As reported in The Wanderer: National Catholic Weekly, September 17th, 1998, p.11)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 00:37:20 -0500 From: Lorne & Joan Reznowski <[email protected]> Subject: Another Whitney Goes Out in Style in Chicago To: [email protected]
Another Whitney Goes Out in Style in Chicago
...From the Kalamazoo Gazette...a large obituary that appeared in the August 5th edition -- for a dog!
The big display ad pictured the deceased with its owner... and read,
in part:
"Dearest Friends, "Our beloved, Whitney, peacefully passed away in my loving arms on
July 2nd after losing her brave battle with cancer.
"As most of you know, Whitney was more than a pet, she was an
extraordinary soul...a friend to everyone she met...and my treasured child. In honor of her life, a Mass was celebrated at Holy Name Catheral in Chicago [all ellipses and italics in original].
"Whitney received the finest medical care available in both Michigan
and Chicago..."
"The grieving owner then thanked all those "who kept Whitney in the
grand style she became accustomed to for the past decade":
On the list: Louis Vuitton, Tiffany & Co., Marshall Field's, Ritz
Carleton, Gucci, Cartier, Inc., Neiman Marcus, Saks Fifth Avenue, and, last but bot least, Holy Name Cathedral.
(As reported in The Wanderer: National Catholic Weekly, September 17th, 1998, p.11)
From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 17:15:37 -0500 Subject: New Subscriber To: [email protected]
Hello Folks,
I'm a new subscriber who hopes that there are others interested in my
branch of the family. I descend through John1, Benjamin2, Nathaniel3, Abel4, Micah5, Ebenezer6. I am currently trying to finish collecting all of the descendants of Ebenezer Whitney and Dorcas Drury Parlin of Freeman, ME. He was born in Gorham, ME in 1791. I am glad to exchange information with anyone interested in this family line.
Ken Whitney
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:59:06 -0700 From: Robin Whitney <[email protected]> Organization: @Home Network Subject: Re: WHITNEY-D Digest V98 #180 References: <[email protected]> To: [email protected]
Reposting my request of 9 AUG 1998
Searching for info on my Luther Henry WHITNEY, b C. 1849 in New York or
Canady? (interpreted as Canada). Two census records and family history
say New York and one says C-A-N-A-D-Y, (clearly a "Y").
Family story is Luther left home at a young age and ended up in Missouri after his mother died and father remarried almost immediatly (too soon for his liking). Refused to talk about his family, even to his wife who died knowing only that he was supposedly born in New York. Help?
Luther died in 1912 in Grundy Co., MO. He married Florence Mae GIBEAUT of Ohio.
Robin
From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:40:48 EDT Subject: Children/Samuel & Grace Whitney of Stow: To: [email protected]
Dear WRG:
I have been trying for the past week to connect EVERY Whitney child who appears in their Vital Records as having been born in Stow, Middlesex, MA. In doing so, I have discovered an error in our database for the birthdate of Jemima Whitney, daughter of this marriage. Whitny12 shows her born 10 Dec 1745, and the VR says 1742. Further, (and how I found this) there is another child, Samuel Whitney, born 10 Sep 1745, appearing in the same Stow VR's. You might also note that the father, Samuel Whitney, b. to Thomas and Mary Whitney on 22 Jul 1714 also appears in the same VR.
If the person who submitted these people to Jon Aston for inclusion in the db is still with us, I would be curious to know if there is any further information that has come to light about Grace (--?--), including her ancestry and/or their marriage data, which does not appear in the Stow VR's or in Robert Ward's index taken from all the MA Vital Records that we have available.
Happy Hunting!
Allan E. Green
From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:51:02 EDT Subject: Re: WHITNEY-D Digest V98 #180 To: [email protected]
Hello Robin
I found your Luther in Pierces genealogy, as follows:
Luther H. Whitney (Edgar, Luther, Samuel, Joseph, Thimothy, John, John, John), b. Lawrenceville, N.Y.., Sept. 23, 1849; m. at Trenton, Mo., Sept. 30, 1874, May Gibeant; b. Dec. 1, 1858. He is a machinist; res., Trenton and Edenburg, Mo. i. Edgar C. b. June 26, 1875 ii. Edna B. b. Dec 26, 1878 iii. Lillian H. b. Sept. 27, 1880; d. Sept 14, 1881 iv. Joseph G. b. Apr. 6, 1883 v. Luther H. b. Mar. 13, 1886 vi. Julian W. b. Sept. 18, 1891
I have no more information on the children. The book was published in 1985 and it is likley that no marriages had taken place by then.
Keep in touch
Jon Aston
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 22:39:59 -0700 Subject: John-Sir Robert link From: [email protected] (Eric A Greenquist) To: [email protected]
I would greatly appreciate help verifying the familial link between John Whitney (July 20, 1592 to June 1, 1673) of Watertown, Massachusetts, and Sir Robert Whitney (died August 2, 1567) of Whitney, England.
Several genealogical databases on the web identify John as the son of Thomas (July 14, 1560 to April 14, 1637), the grandson of Robert (1543 to December 19, 1612) and the great-grandson of Sir Robert. One database however, claims that the link between Thomas and Sir Robert is "weak at best," and refers the reader to Henry Melville's "The Ancestry of John Whitney" for further information. Unfortunately, I do not have access to this 19th Century book.
I would like help determining the validity of the link between John Whitney and Sir Robert Whitney. I also would like to know what Melville wrote about the link between Thomas and Robert. Thank you for your help.
Sincerely,
Eric Greenquist [email protected]
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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 07:45:05 -0400 From: Carlota <[email protected]>
Subject: Sam Whitney Obituary - current info To: [email protected]
Thought perhaps I would share this obituary that is very current.
Sam Whitney, the feisty, combative crusader who open the nation's first commerical food irradiation plant in Mulberry, Florida died Tuesday (9-22-98).
Sam Whitney age 75, died at his Temple Terrace, Florida home due to complications from Lung and Colon cancer. He had suffered from the disease and circulation prlbems for years and fought the disease until it spread into his brain, Rick Whitney his son said.
Whitney retired from Plant City-based Food Technology Service Inc., in 1996 while remaining on the board of directors.
It drove him crazy said Rick Whitney not being able to run the plant.
Whitney founded the company, then known as Vindicator Inc. in 1985. After years of battling federal regulators he finally got the OK in 1992 and starting his 6.8 million dollar plant in Mulberry.
The plant was designed to zap food-borne pathogens such as salmonella with ionizing radiation from bohalt-60. The irradiation lengthens the shelf life of fruits and kills disease in meats. The company hasn't been profitable..."He was so frustrated that he didn't live to see it become widely acceptable and a technology that is widely used now.
Whitney is survived by his wife, Betty; four sons, a daughter, two stepsons, 15 grandchildren and three great-grandchildren.
Funeral services held 10 AM Friday at First Baptist Church of Brandon, Fl. Stowers Funeral Home in Brandon handled all the arrangements.
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 14:58:24 -0400 From: [email protected] (Jan Whitaker) Subject: Addison O.Whitney To: [email protected]
Dear WRG's,
On the front page of The Lowell [MA]Sun this morning is an article
about a restoration effort begun on a statue in that city, honoring Luther C. Ladd & ADDISON O. WHITNEY. They "marched in the 6th Massachusetts Regiment to defend the nation's capital in 1861". They are believed to be the Civil War's first casualties, dying in Baltimore on April 19, 1861. Does anyone have a connection to this Whitney? Presumably, he was from Lowell, but I wonder if the facts are correct....Jan
From: [email protected]
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:28:56 EDT
Subject: Re: John-Sir Robert link
To: [email protected]
Dear Eric:
I own the Melville book, and it does show John-1 as the son of Thomas (which is true) and grandson of Robert (which is not). The connection between Thomas Whitney, husband of Mary Bray and father of John among others, has been quite conclusively shown to be impossible in two articles that have appeared in The American Genealogist (TAG), the first in 1933 by Donald Lines Jacobus, and the second in 1994 or 95 by a man named Reed. Look at the Website operated by Robert Ward and you will find much further information about these two articles.
http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/
If you still have further questions or if I can assist you further, please do not hesitate to write again.
Allan E. Green
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 09:02:38 -0500 From: Gerard & Cindy Dupczak <[email protected]> Subject: Wife of Jabez Whitney To: [email protected]
While researching Giles Castle, who is a grandson of Jabez Whitney, I found his enumeration in the 1850 census for Adams County, Illinois. He is enumerated with the Thomas Pearl family. Also enumerated with that family is Abigail Whitney, who was the wife of Jabez and Giles' grandmother. Jabez is already dead. I don't know the relationship of Abigail to Thomas Pearl or his wife Ann.
I would appreciate any help from the WRG.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 14:52:41
From: "Robert L. Ward" <<img src="/robertward.gif">>
Subject: Re: Re; Whitney family history
To: [email protected]
At 09:19 AM 2/17/98 -0500, you wrote: >Zacharia or Zacheria WHITNEY 1851-1938 mar. Loretta 1856-1945. Buried in >Duvall Cemetery near Six Mile Run, Bedford Co., PA. Children: Ruthana, >Ebaline and Walter. Living in Coaldale Boro. Bedford Co., PA in 1880. >Seeking info. on where Zacharia or Zacheria WHITNEY was born in Wales and >family history from Wales.
I found information on this family on the following webpage:
<http://homepages.enterprise.net/johnball/wales/help.htm>, Query 302.
I suggest you contact Barbara Lautherboren <[email protected]>, if you haven't already.
Regards,
Robert
Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:05:34 From: "Robert L. Ward" <<img src="/robertward.gif">> Subject: Re: Whitney family history To: [email protected]
R.Weaver:
You probably will want to correspond with Malcolm R. Bebb <[email protected]>, too.
Regards,
Robert
Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:43:33 -0500 From: Paula Thompson <[email protected]>
Subject: Elhanna W. (Tony) Whitney/Walker Co, Alabama To: [email protected]
HELP!!!!!!!....I am lost as where to look next for information about Elhanna "Tony" W. Whitney....He was born @1838 in Ala or Ohio....He married Roemila C. Falls @1865-66....They had 9 children: William b 1867; Richard b 1869; Susan Ida b 1871 m William Gurganis; Manerva J. b 1873 m Lee P. Barrentine 1890 (my line); Rufus E. b 1875; Benjamin F.; Dora m Jim Cook;W.B.; and Tom H. b 1892....Tony and Roemila (called KC) left Walker County, Alabama and then went to Greene and Craighead Cos Arkansas....with them were their younger children and the children of their daughter Manerva and Lee Barrentine....three young girls, Huey Etta b 1891 married Charlie H. Higgins; Ada Bell b 1893 m Oscar Childress; and Rossie Velma b 1895...their mother died around 1900...........On the 1850 Census of Walker Co., Alabama in the Thomas Reed household is listed Minerva 40 f with small children and then Marien Whitney, Susannah A., Elizabeth, Elhanna and Marion ranging in age from 21 to 11....Was their father dead and this Minerva Reed their mother being remarried ????????????? Who was the father?????????????? Any HELP will be greatly appreciated and I will be happy to exchange any info....Thank you......pj
From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:18:53 EDT Subject: Stow Vital Records for WHITNEY?? To: [email protected]
Dear WRG and NE-Roots:
I have found an (OK, another) anomaly in the extracted Whitney Vital Records for Stow, Middlesex, MA that I would ask for a check that our transcriptions are correct.
John Marble WHITNEY, s.o. Daniel and Sarah (MARBLE) Whitney, b. 6 Nov 1822 in Stow is shown in the VR's as marrying Elizabeth G. WALCOTT (b. ca 1825, d.o. Joel Walcott) on 30 Mar 1847, with John M. age 24 and Elizabeth as age 22. The same Stow VR's show the birth of an Elizabeth Walcott Whitney on 30 May 1842, nearly 5 years earlier. It's not that I am unwilling to believe the child was born then, the two were of an age to concieve and bear a child. I do find the length of time before the marriage somewhat surprising, however, and thus my request for someone with the printed version of the Stow VR's to check my dates to see that they were copied correctly.
I have noted the death (of consumption) on 9 Feb 1849 of Elizabeth G. Whitney, shown (with a ?) as "d." of John M., but with her age given as 23y, 10m, 24d, which would make her birthday 16 Mar 1825 (and thus age 17 yrs, 2-1/2 mo. at the time of the childs birth). The VR transcriptions show no other children for this marriage. Any further information about the lives of John M. and his daughter, Elizabeth Walcott Whitney would also be welcome. I would be particularly interested to discover if he was the John M. Whitney (of Concord?), age 27, who married Hannah C. Whitmarsh (age 31) of Boston on 14 Mar 1850 in Concord.
Happy Hunting to all!
Allan E. Green <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 07:44:52 -0400 From: "J. Michael Poston" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Addison O.Whitney To: [email protected]
Samuel Eliot Morrison, "The Oxford History of the American People", Oxford University Press, 1965, p, 612:
"The attitude of Maryland was crucial, for control of her by secessionists would have isolated Washington. The first Northern troops on their way to the capital were mobbed as they passed through Baltimore (19 April [1861]); and Lincoln wisely permitted the rest to be marched around the city until he could spare enough soldiers to occupy it and enforce martial law."
He doesn't discuss the incident further, but I recall reading that this event and the eventual occupation of Baltimore inspired the song, "Maryland, my Maryland." That song has some really nasty lyrics that make the government [Lincoln] sound like genuine ogres.
Mike Poston Rockville, Maryland
On Sat, 26 Sep 1998, Jan Whitaker wrote:
> Dear WRG's, > On the front page of The Lowell [MA]Sun this morning is an article > about a restoration effort begun on a statue in that city, honoring Luther > C. Ladd & ADDISON O. WHITNEY. They "marched in the 6th Massachusetts > Regiment to defend the nation's capital in 1861". They are believed to be > the Civil War's first casualties, dying in Baltimore on April 19, 1861. > Does anyone have a connection to this Whitney? Presumably, he was from > Lowell, but I wonder if the facts are correct....Jan > >
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:13:55 -0400 From: "J. Michael Poston" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Wife of Jabez Whitney To: [email protected]
Jabez Whitney married Abigail Milk Wheeler (Milk is her middle name, not a maiden name) in Chesterville, Maine in 1804. They moved from Maine to Athens County, Ohio in about 1816 and settled in that portion that later (1820) became Meigs County. In 1836, they moved to Adams County, Illinois, where Jabez died in late 1839 or early 1840 (probate was begun in February, 1840). Their children were:
i. Joseph ii. Lydia iii. Thankful iv. Lucinda v. Mary vi. Ann vii. John viii. Ebsey [Ebenezer?] ix. Miranda [or Mirarella]
Lydia married Phineas Castle in Meigs County, Ohio Ann married Thomas Peart in (I believe) Adams County, Illinois
Jabez was listed as being "of N. Yarmouth" at his wedding and the intention to marry was also published in North Yarmouth. Other than that, little is known of Jabez. Abigail is the daughter of John Wheeler and Mollie Ingraham and much is known of the Ingraham line.
Mike Poston Rockville, Maryland
On Sun, 27 Sep 1998, Gerard & Cindy Dupczak wrote:
> While researching Giles Castle, who is a > grandson of Jabez Whitney, I found his > enumeration in the 1850 census for Adams > County, Illinois. He is enumerated with the > Thomas Pearl family. Also enumerated with > that family is Abigail Whitney, who was the > wife of Jabez and Giles' grandmother. Jabez > is already dead. I don't know the > relationship of Abigail to Thomas Pearl or > his wife Ann. > > I would appreciate any help from the WRG. > >
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:09:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Barry Whitney <[email protected]> Subject: You Know You're A Genealogist When.... (fwd) To: [email protected]
Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:49:21 EDT From: [email protected] To: [email protected] ...
You hyperventilate at the sight of an old cemetery. You'd rather browse in a cemetery than a shopping mall. You're more interested in what happened in 1698 than 1998. You store clothes under the bed because your closet is full of genealogy- related boxes, books and papers. Most of your correspondence begins "Dear Cousin." You think every home should have a microfilm reader. And, you're thrilled to get an e-mail with an 800K attachment.
Donna Potter Phillips, Spokesman Review, Sunday, September 27, 1998
From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:46:53 -0400 Subject: James B. b. July 1858, VT To: [email protected]
Anyone have a connection to or info on James B. Whitney? He married a woman named Laura. They and their children resided in Rochester Town, VT (Windson Co.) in 1900. Their eldest son was Carleton Delano (also went by Carl D.) Thanks. -Denise Cross
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:02:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: Barry Whitney <[email protected]>
Subject: [GAJEFFER-L] You Know You're Taking Genealogy Too Seriously If :
(fwd)
Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 09:35:31 EDT From: [email protected] To: [email protected] ...
You Know You're Taking Genealogy Too Seriously If :
- In order to put the "final touches" on your genealogical research,
you've asked all of your closest relatives to provide DNA samples.
- You are the only person to show up at the cemetery research party with
a shovel.
- You were instrumental in having "non-genealogical use of the genealogy
room copy machine" classified as a federal hate crime.
- Your house leans slightly toward the side where your genealogical
records are stored.
- You decided to take a two-week break from genealogy, and the U.S.
Postal Office immediately laid off 1,500 employees.
- Out of respect for your best friend's unquestioned reputation for
honesty and integrity, you are willing to turn off that noisy surveillance camera while she reviews your 57 genealogical research notebooks in your home. The armed security guard, however, will remain.
- You plod merrily along "refining" your recently published family
history, blissfully unaware that the number of errata pages now far exceeds the number of pages in your original publication.
- During an ice storm and power outage, you ignore the pleas of your
shivering spouse and place your last quilt around that 1886 photograph of dear Uncle George.
- The most recent document in your "Missing Ancestors" file is a 36-page
contract between you and Johnson Billboard Advertising Company.
- Ed McMahon, several t.v. cameras and an envelope from Publishers
Clearing House arrive at your front door on Super Bowl Sunday, and the first thing you say is, "Are you related to the McMahons of Ohio?"
- "A Loving Family" and "Financial Security" have moved up to second and
third, respectively, on your list of life's goals, but still lag far behind "Owning My Own Microfilm Reader."
- A magical genie appears and agrees to grant your any one wish, and you
ask that the 1890 census be restored.
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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:26:15 -0700
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