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== Page/user deletion ==
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== Albert Russell Whitney family ==
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I have finished updating Albert's family page that you started.  It doesnt appear when you do a search from the main page but does show a link to an article for him.  Do I have to create another page for him for it to show up or can it just be copy and pasted?
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Thanks, Jim
  
I inadvertently created two user ids and pages. Please delete the older ones, i.e., under CurtWhitney.
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==Operator Error==
Thank you.
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Okay, You can ignore this one Tim, operator error. I wasnt using the search bar properly. Thanks, Jim
Curtwhitney
 
  
== Census Progress ==
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== Missing Photos ==
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Tim,
  
Tim:
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Check out [[Archive:A Family Sketch]].  There are several missing images there.  I cannot find these files in my computer and backups.  Do you have copies?
  
I have finished extracting the censuses from 1790 through 1820.  Heritage Quest Online doesn't yet have 1830 through 1850, nor 1930, on-line.  I am '''not''' planning on starting 1860 through 1920, which they do have on-line, although I am willing to look up individual items.
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-- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 07:49, 9 January 2010 (CST)
  
I think I'll try to analyze the ones I've posted, creating links to and from family group records where they existPerhaps I'll create some family group records for families in the census which I can't identify.
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== Carlos Whitney ==
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Thank you for starting a page for Carlos Whitney.  I contacted
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the author who had mentioned him in his book and while he
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didn't have any new info., he did suggest a couple resources
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re: Adirondack Guide History.  I will certainly add any info.
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I find to the page.
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 16:03, 27 July 2007 (CDT)
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Thanks again,
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Sherry.
  
== Census Link ==
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== My William ==
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Dear Tim,
  
Tim:
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That's him!  (Feels silly think of him as 'mine', though I guess he is my 3rd great grandfather!)  What we know from history is that the Neil House burnt to the ground in 1860.  We find William and his wife & daughters at this time still in Ohio, and William is working as a RR  conductor.  In 1870 the family lives in Indianapolis, as well as a new addition, little William, age 8 (who was born in Ohio, so we can deduce that the family moved sometime around/after 1862).  William (now a 'Sr' of sorts) is employed as a RR Clerk.
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We know from "Selected Counties of Ohio 1789-1850, Marriages"  that William's daughter Harriet married Frank Bird, and I do have a newspaper clipping from March 14, 1900 detailing the marriage of Harriet's daughter Jessie Holiday Bird to Harry William Griffith (son of Elnora Libby & William Chenowith Griffith).  My grandmother's notes declare that Harriet passed away 13 July, 1924.  Her daughter Jessie would go on to give birth to  Richard Gordon Griffith (1902)and Nancy Bird Griffith (1907).  Jessie died in 1957 in Battle Creek, MI.  Her daughter Nancy, mother of Jane Griffith Peirce Wood, is my grandmother.
  
The link is to Nathaniel Whitney's page for Nathaniel's unmarried son Amos, who doesn't have a page of his own.
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I have correspondence from a genealogical hunt that Nancy and a friend of a friend endeavored back in the late seventies, and they where totally stumped as to Harriet's parentage.  It feels good to know that I am at least one step closer to solving the mystery!  (And to think - they had to do all the research by hand!  Oy!  Thank Goodness for computers!)
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 15:03, 1 August 2007 (CDT)
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Thanks you so much for your help and your resources!
  
== 1790 Census Images ==
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Gwendolyn
  
Tim:
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== My Whitney Family ==
  
I am noticing that even the 1790 census images I am reading have confused Whitney with Whiting in several places.  The handwriting in the images is clearly Whitney, but the individuals are surely Whiting men.  For an example, consider "John Lake Whitney", Shrewsbury, MA, page 544.  The image is crystal clear, and the reading is unmistakable.  I can't find anyone by that name, but there was definitely a John Lake Whiting in the Shrewsbury VRs, who m. 27 Aug 1782, Olive Wyman, and recorded two children there.
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Tim,
 
 
I can only conclude that the pages of which we are seeing images are copies of some originals, now lost, and that the unknown copyists made the errors.  The fact that some townships have their entries alphabetized by last name initial supports the hypothesis of a copying (and rearranging) at some point.  I confess that I was not aware of this.
 
 
 
Additionally, there could be indexing errors.  I found one example where the index showed Whittne, one of our variant spellings, but the image showed Whitten, a different family.  There were other kinds of errors, too.
 
  
This means that even the images we are using are not primary sources.  That has some unfortunate consequences.  One is that we may have to go through the indices and images again for the Whiting surname, looking for stray Whitney individuals! Sorting them out from the real Whitings is a task I wouldn't look forward to!  It could involve compiling a family tree of the three Whiting families (descendants of Samuel, Nathaniel, and William Whiting, immigrants) down to 1790This is not to mention the Whiton or Whitten families.
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Thank you for the welcome, and for looking over what I'd done. I couldn't work out how to link the pages myself, so thank you for doing thatI do have a couple more generations to add on, before we get too close to the present.
  
I know you have encountered the same phenomenon with one of your own Whitney ancestors, listed in the census as Whiting.
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I did wonder if mine might connect somehow to the John Whitney of Stoke-Goldington - however, at the moment that almost 300 year gap isn't bridgeable.  I have a lot of ideas on how to go further, mostly involving parish registers, but living in outback Australia makes some research quite difficult.
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 09:27, 2 August 2007 (CDT)
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My most recent Whitney ancestor was my great-great-grandmother, Salome, so I don't have any contact with any male Whitney relatives, although there are many in Australia - the family took literally the urge to "go forth and multiply"!  There has been a research book published on this Whitney line in Australia - is there somewhere on the site I could add this, as well?  I didn't write it, but I do have a copy.
  
== 1790 Heads ==
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Fascinating site, I'm still finding new things.
  
Tim:
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Regards,
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Fiona
  
Thanks for creating the list you did.  It should be very helpful, however, it must be incomplete, because the Henry descendants have only been carried down to the fifth generation.  There will be some sixth generation ones who would qualify but don't yet have family group records.  I have already had to create such a page for [[Family:Whitney, Sherwood (1767-1848)|Sherwood<sup>6</sup> Whitney]] to accommodate one census entry from Vermont, no doubt there will be more from New York, and I may have missed some from Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Vermont.
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== Chicheley Records ==
  
I could go through the sixth generation from Phoenix and create pages I think would qualify, and then add them to your list.  Probably I should do that next before continuing with the 1790 links.
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Yes, they are on my list of things I want to do, but when I say I live in the Australian outback, I mean outback.  The nearest FHC is approximately 7 hours drive away from here.  I am hoping for a trip to Sydney in the near future, and will see if I can order films in advance then, but I don't get to the city very often.
  
If you'd like to check off the ones on your list we have identified, that would be good.  You could add the place we found them, with a link to the appropriate 1790/91 census extract.  I think this would be a great addition to our suite of census pages, with similar ones for each census year.  For the time being, I don't see doing more that just 1790/91, but certainly we would want to have a similar thing for 1800 through 1820, at least.  With Heritage Quest Online, I can do searches for those years by first name only, which could turn up some missing folks hiding under Whiting or other (mis-)spellings.
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This is probably one of the worst places in the world to live for a genealogist, much as I love it for everything else!
  
What do you think about creating a Research: namespace for this and other pages we are using for that kind of purpose?
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Fiona
  
By the way, do you have any idea who [[Family:Whitney, Joshua (c1746-1816)]] could be?  All of the Joshua Whitney men I have born in the 1740s seem to be otherwise accounted for. Do we have any DNA evidence from descendants of Calvin or Haynes to point us anywhere?
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== Thank you ==
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Thank you Tim, for the welcome and the edit on my lineage. The information that I had retrieved of my Whitney lineage, I was unassure of it, however it just seem to continue from the family trees I had seen. However I do hope to discover the parenatge of Thomas Whitney from that point. This research group has been a great help.
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 09:39, 5 August 2007 (CDT)
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Blessings and Thank you,
  
== Localities ==
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Shannon Stevens
  
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== Problem Page ==
 
Tim:
 
Tim:
  
Agreed that the Localities page should be as you suggest. That makes a good deal of work making sure that all pages are properly categorized, but worth it in the long run.
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Check out this page: [[Archive:Some_of_the_Descendants_of_John_and_Elinor_Whitney]]
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 10:37, 9 August 2007 (CDT)
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There is something very wrong with it!
  
== Census Volunteers ==
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[[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 14:49, 15 April 2010 (CDT)
  
Tim:
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==Patrick Whitney==
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Thank you for the welcome. I was just looking at that Patrick yesterday. I'd like to find more documentation between John and Patrick if I could. It's a place to start anyway. LOL
  
I see that we have a new volunteer to help with census work, Carol Whitney Cook.  I'll be glad to ask her if she has access to Ancestry.com, to make the new indexes and extractions from the 1830, 1840, and 1850 censuses, with your approval. Somehow we should split that work up between her and Andaleen Whitney.  If you prefer, you can organize the two of them and yourself to do that.  I'm plenty busy identifying the census entries with family groups, and then reformatting the family group pages encountered in the process.
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== John H. Whitney ==
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 10:37, 9 August 2007 (CDT)
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Hi Tim,
  
== Locality Categories ==
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Thank you for making the page for me, I'm lost, I messed it up, but I think I managed to resave it as it was. Not sure what I did wrong.
  
Tim:
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Anyway you make a comment about my ancestor John H., his mother being Nancy, this is right. Nancy would before/later ( forget the order) marry a man with the last name Sickles. They had a daughter Margaret Sickles who married an Anderson. I don't have my stuff in front of me, and I don't have a credit card to get back on ancestry.com to get this all straightened out again in my mind.
  
It sounds like you're doing a good thing.  I approve. I hope that, when you find a misspelling, you either manually correct it on the appropriate page(s), or set the robot to do that, too.  Also be on the look-out for erroneous county assignments.  It could be, for example, that Charlestown would be listed under both Suffolk and Middlesex Counties, MA, when only Middlesex is correct.
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Having said, I feel that John H. Whitney's father was Richard.
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 11:15, 9 August 2007 (CDT)
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If you look here: At the 1850 Izard county Arkansas census  (Izard is a neighboring county to Independence), and close to the
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Missouri line (does anyone know what the real boundries were back then? What info can one trust...)
  
== Killlingly 1790 Census ==
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Anyway Nancy gets from northern Arkansas to southwestern Arkansas over the next ten years.
  
Tim:
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Just remembered she married the Sickles man first, then (must be) Richard Whitney.
  
If you give me the page number, I can look at Heritage Quest Online to see if they have the image of that page for Cornelius Whiting.  FamilySearch.org lists only one Cornelius Whiting, of Wrentham, MA, who died as an infant, and the birth of the Cornelius Whitney in question, erroneously listed under Whiting:<div id="Plaintext90">
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Anyway get back to me if you want, I am exicted about this all again!
    CORNEULIUS WHITING
 
        Male
 
 
  Event(s):
 
        Birth:  05 JUL 1749    Killingly Twp, Windham, Connecticut
 
        Christening:
 
        Death:
 
        Burial:
 
 
  Parents:
 
        Father:  MATETHYAS WHITING
 
        Mother:  ALLIS
 
</div>I conclude that any records for a Cornelius Whiting at this time period, and especially in this place, must refer to this Cornelius Whitney instead.
 
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 10:13, 10 August 2007 (CDT)
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My Email is [email protected] should you want to contact me that way.
  
Hi Tim - thanks for the pointing me in Al's direction.  I stumbled across him last night and we have been in contact.  Great web site - thanks
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== Help needed in sending you information ==
  
== Odd Error ==
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Hi Tim,
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  I'm not good at high tech, Do you have an E-Mail address that I could use to send you
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a two page letter about Stephen and Ruth (Boody)Whitney descendants, namely the children
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of Stephen and their locations.  I also am developing a large file on Family Tree Maker
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of them, and am wondering how to send it to you.
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Gerald E. (Jerry) Whitney
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Milford, NEbraska  68405
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Tim:
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== Asa Whitney of Dutchess Co., NY ==
  
I noticed that on [[Archive:The Whitney Family of Connecticut, page 698]] at the bottom, the "Next Page" link is not working, and I can't figure out why.  Can you?
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Hi Tim
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert L. Ward]]- [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 12:15, 14 August 2007 (CDT)
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I just went into the connection for Asa Whitney. Yes it is assumed he is the son of Ebenezer and Martha Sherwood. In the 1800 census for Litchfield, Conn  Ebenezer is listed and below him is a John Sherwood. Helps to confirm maybe.
  
== DNA ==
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Asa's date of birth is August 14, 1804 and he died April 24, 1863. Asa was married to Julia Ann Quick ( this name comes from Sarah Jane's death certificate) b July 4, 1807 in England and died June 7, 1849. He later married Martha Bennett Wilson ( my grandmother who was married to Charles Wilson The Whiteys and the Wislon were next door neighbors.
  
Tim
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There are 3 gravestones in the South Amenia Cemetery for Asa, Martha and Charles Wilson.
I am still learning how to use the wiki so may not have replied to your message about someone of Joshua's lineage contributing. I have since then completed a DNA test and the results are posted.
 
  
I also have some information about my lineage beyond what is in Pierce. How do I post it on the appropriate page?
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Marthann was the daughter bor May 5, 1825
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Eliza was the daughter born Oct 11, 1827
  
== Delbert Edward Whitney & Vernon Delbert Whitney heritage ==
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Idid not see how I could make these corrections
  
Thank you for the information.  I do not know how to find the web site that has this family heritage.  Can you help meI really appreciate it. Bobbie Whitney Van Meter
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Thank you for you help.  We have lots more info on Sarah Jane including death cert.
  
==  MA Tax Lists ==
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Geri Zuccarino
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Tim:
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Hi agaim Tim
  
Those look very interesting.  It would be even better if the microfilms were available locally, and/or were indexed. They could answer some of our questions about when heads of households died or moved from one location to another. They could be especially valuable for Maine, where many vital records are missing.
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The Dna testing is being done on a male descendant of Stephen Morey Whitney. They hae some of the results which leans to John and Elinor in 1635. The rest of the testing should be finished soon and then I will let you know for sure.
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 12:24, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
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Appreciate the extensive work that is done on this family.
  
== Potentials for 1800 ==
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Geri
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Tim:
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== Maryland John J. & Mary Turner Whitney ==
  
I used TMG to create a list of possible heads of household for 1800 from my databases.  I found a much longer list than the one on the web page.  Most of them would be under the category "Probably dead".  Many of them would also be on a similar list for 1790.  As you have no doubt noticed, I have been creating family group records for some families that didn't already have one.  My new list includes those and quite a few others.  Obviously, I have a lot of work to do!  Do you want me to add names to the web page for potentials in 1790/1800, and create their pages, even if they are probably dead?
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Hi Tim,
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert L. Ward]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 21:05, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
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I wrote to St. Mary's Church in Hagerstown Maryland looking for the marriage record for John & Mary Turner Whitney. http://wiki.whitneygen.org/wrg/index.php/Family:Whitney%2C_John_J._%28c1828-b1880%29
  
I have added to the web page the names beginning with A from my list. You see that there are several, and may extrapolate to the other letters of the alphabet.
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They didn't have a record for them, but they sent me one for: Michel Whitney marriage to Mary Ellen Payne from Four Locks on 14 Oct. 1858. Witness: Patrick Ryan & John Whitney
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert L. Ward]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 18:09, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
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I can scan and send the record to you if you want. One page is a typed index and the other is the actual record. If you want me to scan it to this site, you'll have to walk me through it. I'm still learning to navagate :)
  
== Census Identification Project ==
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Colleen
  
Tim:
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== Wikipedia Books ==
  
Yes, it's worthwhile.  If nothing else, we are finding and correcting lots of errors in the indexes and in the "original" images which might baffle other researchers.  It might be hard for someone to find Darling Whitney hiding among the Whiteman entries, Elnathan Whitney filed under Elenor, or Isaiah listed as Israel.
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Tim,
  
We are also tracing migrations of families from place to placeOn this point, the more years we do this for, the more benefits to the web site and the users of it.
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There are several questions to which I don't know the answersFor example, if you implemented this, would there be a capability to import pages from other wikis, such as Wikipedia itself, in addition to pages from the WRG wiki?  If so, or even if not, this could, indeed, have some benefit for our members, in my opinion.  I can envision creating a book entitled, "Our Whitney Lineage", or "Our Whitney Cousins".
  
How shall we get transcriptions of the 1830 census?
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[[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 17:00, 11 May 2010 (CDT)
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 18:33, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
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== Patrick Whitney, II ==
  
== 1800 Census, Boston, MA ==
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Hi Tim,
  
Tim:
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I have no problem with the edits, I've yet to get the hang of it yet. Do whatever needs to be done to make it right.
  
FYI:  The 1800 Census of Boston no longer exists.  We'll have missed some folks living there.  Also parts of Rockingham and Strafford Cos., NH, are gone, and York Co., ME, is incomplete.
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Hi Tim,
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 13:21, 24 August 2007 (CDT)
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I found an obituary notice for Patrick Whitney
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http://wiki.whitneygen.org/wrg/index.php/Family:Whitney%2C_Patrick_%28c1794-a1850%29
  
Thanks Tim for the edit tips...it looks much better now.
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I'm not sure who to give the information to. I found the following on the "Washington County Free Library" site.
  
Carol
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Obituary Notice for Patrick Whitney
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Dated: 9-21-1851
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From: Herald of Freedom
  
== Uploading photos ==
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'''"Near Four-Locks, on Saturday the 15th inst. Mr. Patrick Whitney, in the 50th year of his age."'''
  
I have tried to add photo to photo list but don't seem to be able to do so...the photo is in my edits section...Help
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Obituary for James Whitney
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Dated: 8-14-1917
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From: Daily Mail Newspaper
  
== 1771 Tax List ==
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'''"James Whitney, former boatman on the old C. and O. Canal, died at the home of his daughter, Mrs. J.A. Reed, 808 W. Franklin St. from heart trouble, aged 74 years. Besides his daughter, Mrs. Reed, he is survived by the following stepchildren: Mrs. E. O. Diffendaffer, this city; Mrs. Mary Scanland, Baltimore; Charles W. Durborow, this city, and William Durborrow, Sharpsburg. Funeral Friday at 2 p.m. by Rev. G.B. Townsend. Interment in Rose Hill cemetery."'''
  
Tim:
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also:
  
I found on-line [http://www.memorialhall.mass.edu/collection/itempage.jsp?itemid=5849 the preface] to ''The Massachusetts Tax Valuation List of 1771''.  Among other things, it reveals that roughly half of the list is lost.  Apparently Watertown was among the lost part.  Obviously any people who "should" appear and don't may have been on other parts no longer extant.
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WHITNEY, DENNIS
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DATE PAPER PAGE/
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COL TITLE/SUMMARY
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4 Oct 1865 H&TL 1E QUALIFIED VOTERS OF DISTRICT NO…(REGISTERED VOTERS FOR DISTRICT 15 OF WASHINGTON COUNTY).
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(From the Herald & Torchlight Newspaper)
  
I tried hard to capture alternate spellings of the surname, except I didn't mess with the Whitings.  This was a computer typeface, so I didn't have to read the handwriting, but the transcribers did.  Furthermore, if the "originals" were actually copies, as we found with the census, there is a further chance for error.
 
  
I was gratified to find my Gershom<sup>4</sup> Whitney in Ware, MA, and learned much about his household. His father Joshua<sup>3</sup> must have died just before the list was made, but his widow doesn't appear.  Apparently he disposed of his estate earlier, and she was living with relatives, possibly Gershom himself.
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WHITNEY, MICHAEL
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DATE PAPER PAGE/
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COL TITLE/SUMMARY
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4 Oct 1865 H&TL 1E QUALIFIED VOTERS OF DISTRICT NO…(REGISTERED VOTERS FOR DISTRICT 15 OF WASHINGTON COUNTY).
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    (From the Herald & Torchlight Newspaper)
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 06:28, 31 August 2007 (CDT)
 
  
== Doctor John ==
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1870 Census-Michael Whitney (District 15) Clearsprings Page 419
  
Tim:
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188, 214, Whitney, Michael, 29, M, M, Laborer, Born-Maryland, (Under if married in the year list month)-Aug.
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                  Sarah, 27,F, M, K. house, Born-Ireland, (Under if married in the year list month)-Aug.
  
It is obvious that [[Family:Whitney, John (1716-a1757)|Dr. John<sup>4</sup> Whitney]] moved around a lot. All is as I believe to be correct, with the exception of his son Nathaniel<sup>5</sup>.  See [[Archive:NEHGR, Volume 79]] for him.  The date of marriage and the dates of birth and baptism of the other children make it hard to place him among them.  I suppose it's possible that Dr. John either had two wives at the same time, one in Eastham and one in Nantucket/York, or else he fathered a child out of wedlock by Margaret, and then married her later.  Another possibility is that Seth, of whom we have no further record beyond his birth, was renamed Nathaniel.  Another possibility is that the guardianship record is faulty, and got the name of the younger son wrong.
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With the St. Mary's Church record: Michael Whitney (Of Four Locks)married Mary Ellen Payne on 14 Oct. 1858. She must have died and he married Sarah-August of 1870 as per the Census.
  
I don't know how to reconcile the records.  I tried to fit Nathaniel in in 1744, but that's obviously a problem.
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If I should be directing this information to some else let me know.
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] - 06:48, 31 August 2007 (CDT)
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Thanks for your help!
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Colleen
  
== 1771 Tax List, II ==
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I would take the test, but I have no idea what that "kit" would cost.
  
Tim:
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I take random drug tests at work. The test is oral. You keep the test surface between the cheek and gum for 3 minutes,
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then insert it into a plastic vial, break off the perforated handle then cap the vial.
  
Good job on the tax list!  I did try to identify the missing 1771 men:
 
  
* "Two men named Charles."  Got them.
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Call me anyway. 903-853-0609
* "Three men named John."  Got the one in Gorham, ME.  The two nonresidents could be anyone from, say, Watertown.  I actually have five different candidates for these two, and no way to tell which they might be.
 
* "Three men named Moses.  Note that the Moses in Gorham could be either of two men."  Got the one in New Salem.  The one in Gorham I believe I have right.  The other was probably in Falmouth in 1771.  The Chesterfield man seems to be young, but I can't place him, although I have a few candidates.
 
* "Three men named Samuel."  Got them.
 
* "Two individuals with no name (-----)."  I really can't figure out how to identify these.  Probably there's a better chance with the widow from Boston, but still not good.
 
  
As for me, I have finished the 1800 Census Potential Heads list, and am also faced with many unidentified entries in that census.  I am still working on them, but there will be quite a few that I won't know.
 
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 19:49, 1 September 2007 (CDT)
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Grady
  
== Page Moves ==
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== John Whitney ==
  
Tim:
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Hi Tim,
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Would you please move John Whitney married to Adaline Mosher to the unconnected section. He is not the son of Nathaniel and Clarissa Hoar Whitney. He could be related to them but not as a son.  We have not connected John at this point time.  Thankyou Terr
  
Your idea of using a bot to do this kind of work is excellent.  Recall that sometimes more than one link to the same page can be found on one page, so your bot should take that into account.
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== Nathaniel Whitney (1800-1838) ==
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 09:07, 4 September 2007 (CDT)
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Tim
  
It should also remove the line from the renamed page which calls the rename template.
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I have just sent a ton of family information, plus two Federal Census extracts, please delete as much as you want...the information was copied from my Coombs family data base.  You said you wanted information...
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 13:16, 4 September 2007 (CDT)
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Do we know anything about the Whitney's who lived in the Standish/Scarbourough/Portland area of Cumberland County, ME in the late 1700s-early 1800s?  I have been trying to link my Nathaniel to this group for years with no success.  I think that my Nathaniel may have been the son of the Nathaniel listed in the 1840 Federal Census living in Standish, Cumberland County, ME (page 16) as being 70 to 80 years of age and living with 1f 20-30, 1f 30-40 and 1f 60-70.
  
== Jabez Whitney of Orange ==
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Whitney
  
Tim:
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== Andrew Whitney ==
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Hi Tim;
  
My guess is that the "Ly" Whitney from the Jones Cemetery is a reading of "[SAL]LY" Whitney on a broken or eroded gravestoneThat doesn't explain the census records, but there are many alternative explanations of those.
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Thank you for your assistance.  I admit that I don't have any other resources than Memoirs of Worcester County Vol. II.  The author notes that there is no birth record found for Silas Whitney, yet the account seems pretty sure of the lineageI'm curious what information leads you to dispute the record as given in this account--though in any case my lineage still seems to trace back to John Whitney of Watertown.
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 10:34, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
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I'm happy to have my Whitney lineage confirmed.  I've always been told that we were descended from the Whitneys, and that they made their fortune in Chicago manufacturing.  This turns out to be Charles Andrew Whitney, and the Memoirs record was actually written as his biographical sketch.  There is some census data available on Charles Andrew, and he may be worthy of his own page on this site, if there isn't one already. 
  
== Sally versus Ly ==
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I'm curious why you removed Charles Andrew's wife, Martha Waters, from my lineage--as written in the Memoirs book. 
  
Tim:
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Brendan
  
The fact that the town record of death and the cemetery record from her stone differ by exactly 1 year and 1 day makes me believe that the two refer to the same event, with recording variations.  I oppose splitting the two.  You could add a section under "Notes" explaining the alternate theories.  I would not oppose that.
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== Andrew Whitney ==
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 10:55, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
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Tim,
  
== Pierce Conversion Project ==
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Thanks for the note about Crane's identification.  There are several reasons why I disbelieve what is written there.  First, it is one of those mug books, which are notoriously inaccurate.  Secondly, the list of Silas's children is very incomplete, as is data about Silas himself, not even including his wife's maiden name or their marriage record.  Thirdly, Andrew was born in 1754 (according to his age at death from the church records in Princeton), four years before the marriage of Silas and Jane in 1758.
  
Tim:
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Onomastics isn't much help here.  Andrew did not name a child Silas, Jane, Andrew, or Tabitha.  He did name a son Elisha Dana Whitney, and Abraham had a son Elisha who probably married Abigail Dana.
  
I see that there are two files with that as part of the title which have a huge number of links eachI have had to patrol many edits made on them by the Rename Bot, to no apparent benefitSince the project is over, and the only other pages that link to this group are your and my User_talk pages, it seems we could delete themAlternatively, we could edit them severely, cutting down drastically on the links to Family pages. Thoughts?
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So if Andrew wasn't son of Silas, who was he?  There is an otherwise unaccounted-for Andrew, son of Abraham, who was, indeed, born in 1754Thus the connection to AbrahamAbraham's family is very interestingThe children seem to have all left home and scattered.
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 14:28, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
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I hope this is convincing.
  
== Hello Cousin ==
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[[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 11:47, 28 May 2010 (CDT)
  
So far I have been able to trace my Whitney lineage to Zachariah, but not sure how he ties in exactly to John Whitney.  I don't have a lot of information on my Whitney side as of yet, although I am sure I'll find more.  I've been doing my family tree for almost a year now and still on the Gove side...which is on my mother's father's side.  Have done almost nothing on my father's side, or my mother's mother's side of the family yet!  It's quite a long, exhaustive, but utterly fascinating and fun process!  I'm hoping to learn all I can.  Rick
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== Nathaniel Whitney 1800-1830 ==
  
Very cool....I just noticed that about the same time that your second message came in.  That is so very fascinating!  Every time I find out something new I get even more excited.  Thanks for pointing it out to me!
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Tim
  
== Descendant List ==
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The only source that I have for the date of marriage for Nathaniel Whitney & Charlotte Cook is that it is contained in a hand-written family genealogy chart prepared by my grandfather, Frederick A. Coombs, prior to 1904.  Since Nathaniel was his grandfather, the presumption is that it came from family papers.  Sorry.
  
Tim:
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During my search this past weekend, I came up with the following two pieces of Whitney information:
  
The idea is interesting, but I foresee a problem.  On what pages would you put (for example) your name?  You put it only on Erastus's page, but you could have put it on all the pages for your direct ancestors.
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1. -- The Evergreen Cemetery, City of Portland, ME contains two numbered lots in Section G (#24 & 25) in the name of David Averill with the following interments:
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[Name; Age; Date of Death]:
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Caroline W. Coombs      83  Feb. 24, 1915;
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L. Augustine Coombs      43            1871;
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Charles W. Coombs        80  Jan. 24, 1940;
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Charles H. Whitney      57  Sep. 16, 1885;
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Hannah P. Whitney                      1854;
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J. Frederick Whitney                  1870;
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Nattie Whitney                        1854;
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Charlotte Whitney                      1850;
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Nathaniel Whitney                      1838
  
If you did that, John<sup>1</sup> Whitney's page would have a very long list.  That would be bad, in my opinion.
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I'm not sure who all these people are or what David Averill's connection is.
  
If you didn't do that, you'd have to make an executive decision on which pages to put your name and which not. I don't think that that's something a bot could do, so a person would have to be involved in every such decision.  That makes the work prohibitive.
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2. -- I found four small undated hand-written pages of family information written by Alonzo Cook MD of Los Angeles, Calif:
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 14:46, 10 September 2007 (CDT)
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"Sally Whitney mother of Charlotte Cook was a daughter of a Gary, who was sister of Ellbridge Gary, signer of Declaration of In, Vice Pres. when he died.  This sister was m. in Marblehead to Grandpa Whitney a merchant of that place.  He failed in business but was a very proud man so took his family & 2 slaves & moved to the wilds of Casco Maine and they 2 children -- our grandmother (Rosa's) and one more little girl we children called her big Aunt Jane.
  
== Samuel of Woodbury ==
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    ***** End of page #1 *****
  
Tim:
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"Our grandmother, Sally Whitney, married Hezekiah Cooke whose father was a Scotchman and Dr. Francis Cooke a cousin of ours tells me he was descended from the Cooke of the Mayflower.
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    Alonzo Cook MD
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    Los Angeles, Cal.
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    Member of Board Health
  
[[Archive:The Whitney Family of Connecticut, page 84#279|Phoenix, p. 84]], places Samuel Whitney of Woodbury, who m. Sarah -----, as a child of Elijah and Rebecca (Seymour) Whitney, and a descendant of Henry<sup>1</sup>.  [[Archive:Some More Descendants of John and Elinor Whitney|Sandiford]] places him as a child of Enoch and Thankful (Parke) Whitney, and a descendant of John<sup>1</sup>.  I have no information which corroborates or contradicts either theory.  How should we handle this?
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    ***** End of page #2 *****
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 18:11, 11 September 2007 (CDT)
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"Charles H. Whitney;
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John d. infancy;
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Harriet F. Whitney;
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Mary Caroline Whitney;
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Rosa A. Whitney 
  
== Census ==
 
  
Hi Tim - I've changed my state to Ohio.  Glad I got the message as I'm on my way to the library, WVU has ancestry.library edition, I'm going to use that to generate my list and will then use Heritage Quest to retrieve info.  You can zap Iowa. Thanks much.
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Nathaniel Whitney and Charlotte Cook  
  
Carol
 
  
== Robot ==
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Money in England thru Gerry family 
  
I'm using Internet Explorer.  I added an extra line between the individual in 1880 Census Extract, Alabama and that separated the individuals again.  Before, they were all appearing on one very long line that wrapped around.
 
--[[User:Andaleen|Andaleen]] 16:26, 13 September 2007 (CDT)
 
  
== Disambiguation Pages ==
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Charlotte Cook's brother was Gerry Cook and her maternal grandmother was a Sally Gerry 
  
Tim:
 
  
I notice on Wikipedia they make use of "disambiguation pages", especially for various people with the same name.  That could be a good idea for us, I think, because we have so many groups of people with the same name.  Suppose I'm looking for a Samuel Whitney, but I don't know his birth and death years. If I could go to a disambiguation page named "Samuel Whitney", and there find a list of all the ones we know, with links to the appropriate family group records, this could be very useful.  Each entry on that page could give a little more information on the individual to help the selection process.  We could cross-reference nicknames, e.g., the page for "Mary Whitney" could say "See also Molly Whitney and Polly Whitney," and vice versa.  Thoughts?
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Ephraim;
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Mary m. _____ Averill;
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Gerry -- only son Alonzo Cook;
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Margaret;
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Jane
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 08:19, 15 September 2007 (CDT)
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      ***** End of page #3 *****
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"Anne;  Hezekiah; Zachariah;  Daniel;  Asa;  Moses;  Pltiah (sp?) (the last six names are contained within a bracket and labeled "doubt"
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Mother
  
== Children Without Their Own Pages ==
 
  
Tim:
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Great grandmother Gerry Whitney lived and died in Casco @ 103-12-20 & was blind several years" 
  
It seems to me, that if you can generate the disambiguation pages automatically, you could also program a bot to do the following:
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      ***** End of page #4 *****
  
# Go through the whole Family: namespace, picking out pages of Whitney males.
 
# On each page, look for a table immediately following a line beginning with "Child of " or "Children of ".
 
# Collect the names of children from the table, ignoring those whose names are links.
 
# Collect the name of the child and the name of the page on which it appears.
 
# Create a line of the form <nowiki>"* Whitney, XXXXX, child of [[Family:Whitney, XXXXX (XXXX-XXXX)|Whitney, XXXXX (XXXX-XXXX)]]"</nowiki>.
 
# Sort the list by given name, then by birth year of the father.
 
# Append the names to the disambiguation pages.
 
  
Perhaps you don't want to do this.  Perhaps some variant of the above would be better.
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I hope that this is of use to you.
  
Thoughts?
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Whitney
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User:Rlward|Talk to me]] 17:46, 16 September 2007 (CDT)
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== Thanks for the greeting ==
  
== data ==
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Thanks for the greeting. So I'll do the data entry but slowly. Today I'm augmenting my John Smith Whitney family group with your information. Had quite an eventful day yesterday with the descendants of George Washington Whitney. Because one grandchild was named Rinaldo I was able to string together some events that read like a plot proposal for a soap opera. I posted the story on my Ancestry.com entry.
  
Hi Tim - I have posted some 1830 Ohio census records....it doesn't quite look like it should.  If you give me some hints I will edit the page so that it appears as it should.  Thanks much.
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What do you make of this record Tim?
  
Carol
 
  
== Two Asa Whitneys ==
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1860 United States Federal Census
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about Richard Whitney
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Name: Richard Whitney
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Age in 1860: 35
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Birth Year: abt 1825
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Birthplace: New York
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Home in 1860: Ruddell, Independence, Arkansas
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Gender: Male
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Post Office: Batesville
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Value of real estate: View image
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Household Members: Name Age
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John Micheal 20
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Sidney Vaughn 25
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Richard Whitney 35
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Nancey Whitney 32
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Marcy A Whitney 7
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William Whitney 6
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Joseph Whitney 4
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Amanda E Whitney 2
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Marcy A Wilson 30
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George A Wilson 1
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Hiram Morris 35
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Elander J Morris 28
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John B Morris 11
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Hiram Morris 7
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Artemis J Morris 5
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Paul Morris 2
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Peter Morris 3/12
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It's the only record I find of Whitney's with Moriss'es... This Richard Whitney surely must fit in the Wade Whitney connection somehow...
  
Tim:
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== Thanks for the welcome ==
  
I have been trying to place the Asa Whitney who appears in the 1800 Census at Lisle, Tioga Co., NYHis age is over 45, so he must have been born before 1755.  There are three such persons of which I am aware who are reasonable candidates, all of the fifth generation from John<sup>1</sup>:
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Tim, thanks very much for the welcome and for adding in the links to my Whitney lineageI admit I haven't researched them as extensively as other branches in my family, but am now motivated to do more in hopes of contributing back to this resource. Best,
# [[Family:Whitney, Asa (1743-1803)]]
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Sara.
# [[Family:Whitney, Asa (1745-a1810)]]
 
# Asa, son of [[Family:Whitney, Enoch (s1708-a1756)|Enoch Whitney]], b. 10 Jul 1742, Preston, CT.
 
I concur with the identification of the first.  It is the second who I believe is confused with the third.
 
  
Number 2 was born in Killingly, and we find him in the censuses of 1790, 1800, and 1810 in Killingly. The fact that his children were allegedly born in Cornwall seems anomalous. I think Number 2 remained in Killingly, married, and had children born there, but not recorded.
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I have created 4 or 5 pages now the first of which have shown up as links in my ancestral line. I'm proud to be able to contribute. I notice that many older pages have each fact documented in footnotes. I would be glad to do that for my pages but don't know how. Do you have instructions for that and a style sheet for various types of entries?
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Also, I'm guessing you add the census data that appears at the bottom of some pages. If not, how would I add that?
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About to start on John Franklin Whitney after I get a bit of breakfast.
  
Number 3 was born in Preston, but when he was young, his father moved to Kent.  His brothers lived in Washington and Warren, CT.  All these places are in Litchfield Co., as is Cornwall.  I think it was Number 3 who married Abigail Brownson and had the two children in Cornwall.
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== thankyou and see below ==
  
Furthermore, it must have been Number 3 who appears in Lisle in 1800, since Number 2 and Number 1 are both accounted for.
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Did you receive my message about dna for your families and robert L Whitney?
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Terry
  
Do you concur?
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== Elijah Whitneys ==
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_Talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 19:27, 16 September 2007 (CDT)
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Tim,
  
== Pierce Errors Continuing ==
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Your connection of the two Elijah Whitney family groups makes a lot of sense.  Of course, if there is confusion in Phoenix, it is because his informants provided that information, and they were living many years after the events in question.  Actually, it is surprising to me that we haven't found more inaccuracies in what is presented there.  Compare to Pierce's accuracy record!
  
Tim:
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I would suggest going ahead with the merging of the two pages, with appropriate discussion in a Notes section.
  
I add to the Pierce Errors page whenever I find an error that I can document. Of the two confused Asa Whitney individuals, Enoch's son was completely missed by PierceMatthias's son already has a correction attached to his name, but I need to fix that since it really applies to Enoch's son.
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Now that creates another issue: Hannah (Whitney)(Bass) Whitney now is a person a generation older than we previously thoughtCan we tentatively identify her and/or her Bass husband with that new age information?
  
I was aware of my former e-mail message, which applies, but is not helpful in straightening out the lineages.  Thanks for mentioning it, however.  I also found on-line a [http://history.rays-place.com//ny/triangle-ny.htm history of Triangle, NY], which says that Asa Whitney was one of the early settlers there.  This must be the one in Lisle in 1800.  He's there in 1820, but I can't find him in 1810.  It may be that Lisle is missing from the 1810 schedules, since I can't find anyone in that Town.
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[[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 12:09, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
  
On checking for this possibility, I found the following book:  [http://persi.heritagequestonline.com/hqoweb/library/help/censusbook/Section%201.pdf ''The Census Book'', by William Dollarhide].  It explains about the copying, recopying, and loss of various census record groups.  I found it enlightening.
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== Elijah Whitneys, pt. 2 ==
  
By the way, this is an example of something we discovered because of the Census Identification Project.
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Tim,
 
 
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 21:14, 16 September 2007 (CDT)
 
 
 
Hi Tim - Whew, I've had quite a time trying to get the correct spacing between individuals....hope you can help.  I have stopped editing so you can do your thing.  Thanks.
 
 
 
Carol
 
 
 
== Census ==
 
 
 
Hi Tim - I see you've completed your edit.  Now I can't seem to find a way to add spaces between the individuals!  Should I recopy my info from word?  I'm also going back to the library to look up the three individuals in bold, the pages didn't copy or aren't readable in Heritage Quest.  I'm also signing up to do Pennsylvania.  Thanks.  Carol
 
 
 
== Census ==
 
 
 
Internet Explorer...not sure what version.
 
 
 
== Fixing Broken Links ==
 
 
 
Tim:
 
 
 
You may have noticed that I have been trying to fix a lot of broken links.  I found a page with which I cannot deal, and which contains several:  [[Template talk:Divbox]].  Can you help?
 
 
 
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 13:59, 17 September 2007 (CDT)
 
 
 
== Josiah Corrections? ==
 
 
 
Tim:
 
 
 
I was looking at the [[Archive:Lancaster, Massachusetts, Vital Records#Marriages|Lancaster Vital Records]], and found the marriage of Elisabeth Whetney and [[Family:Whitney, Josiah (1698-1748)|Josiah Whetney]] on 24 Apr 1733.  Very soon thereafter, I visited the page of [[Family:Whitney, Isaiah (1700-1737)|Isaiah Whitney]], and saw that he married one Elizabeth Whitney "about 1733", and had first child born 23 Jan 1733/4, almost exactly nine months later.
 
 
 
Is there any reason to doubt that the marriage record is in error, and the groom wasn't Josiah, but Isaiah?
 
 
 
There is also a problem with Josiah Whitney "late of Dedham" marrying Elizabeth Grant.  It seems that this is another error, this time in the Weston vital records.  The groom was actually Josiah<sup>3</sup> ''Whiting'', born 30 May 1701, Dedham, MA, son of Samuel<sup>2</sup> and Sarah (Metcalf) Whiting [Nathaniel<sup>1</sup>].  They had seven children recorded in Weston, including two recorded as "Whitney" and five as "Whiting".
 
 
 
Do you agree, and should I go ahead with making appropriate changes?
 
 
 
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 22:36, 17 September 2007 (CDT)
 
 
 
== Dublin, NH, and Stamford, VT ==
 
 
 
Tim:
 
 
 
I can't identify any of the Whitneys you list in Dublin.  The only Bascom Whitney I know of was only 11 years old at the time of this warning-out.  It could be an otherwise unknown uncle of him, but otherwise I'm clueless.
 
 
 
Are you going to add the extracts from the history book to our Extracts?
 
 
 
Yes, Isaac of Stamford could well be who you suggest, but I have nothing to add to the discussion.
 
 
 
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 07:47, 19 September 2007 (CDT)
 
  
== Isaac (again) ==
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See [[Family:Whitney, Elijah (1710-b1741)]] for Rebecca (Seymour)(Whitney) Boughton.  I suggest that the Seth whose administration was granted in 1760 was another child of this couple, who died unmarried and without issue, and after whom the younger Seth was named.  That would make Seth's administrator his brother, an entirely reasonable situation.
  
Tim:
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[[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 13:12, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
  
Sure, go ahead.  Also explain the logic behind the connection, please.
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== Change of name, Reuben to Stephen Whitney ==
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 08:25, 19 September 2007 (CDT)
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Because of the latest information of Ruth Boody as wife of Stephen Whitney as found in the "Early families of Limington, Maine" and the incomplete findings of Mrs Frank S. Healey )Eleanor Katherine Whitney, Filed in the Detroit Society of Genealogical Research,  a descendant of Remington Hobby Whitney and his first wife Eliza Weaver, daughter of Daniel Wing and Amy (Underhill) Weaver.  It is my belief, that Stephen and wife Ruth Boody are the parents of
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Crosby Whitney, Remington Hobby Whitney, Robert B. Whitney, Nathan W. Whitney, Peter Whitney, above born in Maine,
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Jane Whitney,b in Conn.  Henry Whitney b unk. , Mary Whitney b. New York, Sally Ann Whitney b. New York. 
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    From the book "Early Families of Limington, Maine" by Robert L. Taylor under the name of
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Boody Rev. Robert  then child viii is Ruth b. 13 June 1779 at New Durham, NH and married 26 Jan 1800 to Stephen Whitney both of Limington " They moved to Painted Post, Stuben Co., New York.
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Painted Post is 40 miles south of my to be 3rd great grandmother, Mary Carman. Mary Carman is also related to Amy Underhill, Mary Carman marries Crosby Whitney abt. 1821. Remington Hobby Whitney is found in 1830 Census at Sodius, Wayne Co., New York. 
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    I believe that the printing of Hardin Co., Iowa History book printed 1911 has many mistakes
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and that when my 2nd great grandfather George Whitney b. 12 Sept 1822 in New York, told his story, there was a clerical error, when the name was listed as Reuben and Ruth it should have been Stephen .  This stands to reason as others beside myself have never been able to find a Reuben in or from Maine that fit the time factors.
  
== Samuel of Halifax Co., NC, 1790 ==
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== Change of (DNA) #37765 of Reuben to Stephen Whitney ==
  
Tim:
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  Because of recent findings I am asking you to change my family line to
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living, Earl E., Herman G., Crosby, George, Crosby, Stephen, Phineas, Isaac, Nathaniel, Benjamin, John, Thomas Whitney.
  
[[User:Tara_767]] left me this message:  [[User_talk:Rlward#1790_Census]].  We don't have a page for either him or his father, I believe.  See, however, [http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/h/i/Michael-R-Whitney/GENE1-0004.html Michael Ray Whitney's page about him].
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== Possible Identification ==
 
 
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 19:25, 19 September 2007 (CDT)
 
 
 
== Family Pages ==
 
  
 
Tim,
 
Tim,
  
I tried to go in and correct the date formatting errors I had made, but it looks like you have already changed most of themThank you.
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Check out these two pages:  [[Family:Whitney, Elijah (b1750-a1782)]] and [[Family:Whitney, Ebenezer (c1747-a1800)]].  The children of both include brothers Ebenezer and Samuel, and half-brothers Elijah and JosephMy suspicion is that there was no Elijah, and Ebenezer was the father of the children listed on his page.
  
== Trouble with Patrolling ==
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Thoughts?
  
Tim:
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[[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 01:53, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
I can't patrol this file: [[Archive:1880 Census Index, Illinois]].  I don't know what the problem might be.
 
 
 
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 18:26, 23 September 2007 (CDT)
 
 
 
== I have a plethora... ==
 
 
 
of information regarding the William Whitney line in Louisiana.  I'm sure you noticed that I'm not what one could consider "well versed" at adding it to this site (grin).  Cynthia Daigle, a distant cousin of mine by marriage, also forwarded an email sometime back that stated:
 
 
 
email excerpt from Alicia, July 2006
 
my Dad who is 93 in Oct. submitted his DNA to a group that has a data pool. The results : we are related to the John & Elenor Whitney from Mass. It still leaves about 100 years to get to them........our broken link is Ky.
 
 
 
I phoned Patricia Whitney Gravois today in the hope that she has the missing marraige certificate information for William Whitney and Sara Compton, but from what I understand William's parents weren't listed anyway.
 
 
 
If I were to take the time to put all of the South Lousiana Records by Father Hebert, as well as the family information that I have "from family", would you like me to send it to you?  That way you can enter it into this website much more quickly, and much more professionally than I.  If no, no biggie, I'll get around to doing it in an effort to lend a hand to others, but I feel fairly certain you'll be traipsing along behind me, cleaning up my messes.
 
 
 
Thank you for assisting in the creation of this site.  While it didn't help me, as others apparently haven't gotten past the same brick wall, it certainly "will" help when, if ever, we figure out that missing century.
 
 
 
Chris Jarvis
 
  
== Census ==
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Greetings Tim Doyle:
  
How do you go in and add to the 1830 Census Indexes? I have added data, but is there a template to make the data look uniform?  Thanks.
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I am Bruce T. Whitney, I have been doing Whitney research on my family tree since the 1960's. I've got a wealth of information and completed family lineages for Horace B. Whitney through to my children.  Horace who married Lucetta Frazier 1828. I've got Lucetta's family bible page that tell of his birth and more importantly his death. I've got full history of his family onward.... I'd love to share this as I have had a grand time discovering the history of Horace back to Thomas 1550  and have read with great interest the story of possible links back to 1225
  
Tara
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I can be contacted via email:  [email protected]  I can put my info on a disc. from Horace B onward.... and I can combine it with the WRG material if you'd like. 
  
== "Missing" Templates ==
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thanks for your time and consideration
  
Tim:
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In searching,
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Bruce Thomas Whitney (1955)
  
I think your templates such as "Missing1790" could all be combined into a one template called, say, "Missing", and make it such that you pass the year YYYY as a parameter, and it creates the string
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Tim, I'm not sure who I need to talk to about this but I am in the midst of a fued with people in England that had a meeting July, 2008 about the Bayeux Tapestry and the image being Turstin FitzRolf in the scene 55. There is a new book coming out that has changed thet figure to Robert, Williams 1/2 brother. I have written to a few people about this and find it is too late to change the book as it is already set type and being printed by Oxbow, Oxford. If you can help me, please email me [email protected]. I have more information but I need to know where to go with this.  
: "* YYYY: not found."
 
Then you would just call <nowiki>{{Missing|1790}}</nowiki> for example.
 
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 12:39, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
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Thank you
  
== Genealogy.DunnNet.com ==
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Mary
  
I had to smile. The page you directed me to with '''William John''' & '''Sarah Ellen''' (Yazel) '''Whitney'''. Yep. I've seen it many many times. William went by the name John and they were my GG Grandparents and my Grandmother was a Whitney. The web site is my own :) Thanks for the try though. I appreciate that people are checking it out and hopefully gaining some insight to their own research. I spend a large percentage of my time in census records and that was one of the reasons i dropped by here today.
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== Warning and Danger ==
Thanks again. and Happy Hunting.
 
Herb Dunn
 
 
 
== Martha/Matilda ==
 
  
 
Tim,
 
Tim,
  
Jeanne and I have been discussing this issueAll census records that we are able to find show Matilda to be Martha. We have not been able to locate Martha Red, but it may be possible that Martha Red and Martha Buckhalter are the same Martha.  I am still working on it.  I will re-check the sources and let you know.  Thank you for reminding me to check on it.
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The file Template:Warning is not working properlyPossibly it is because of the hard-coding of the IP address in the URL for Danger.jpg, but I am just guessing.
  
Tara_767
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[[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 17:45, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
  
== Martha/Matilda ==
+
== Another Issue ==
  
 
Tim,
 
Tim,
  
I have checked census records with Wyley Buckhalter, note spelling, of Barnwell 1850 and she is listed as Martha.  They do have a daughter named Matilda and it is very likely that the census taker could have been confused and noted her as Martha instead of Matilda.  It could also be possible that both Marthas exist and one is the daughter of Macon and the other may be the daughter of Malcolm.  At this point I will really need to check other documentation to be sure.  Thanks.
+
The page [[Whitney Family Groups]] has an issue near the bottom under Australia.
  
tara_767
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[[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 09:26, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
  
== changing username/login ==
+
== George Orrett Whitney ==
  
Hello Tim,
+
Hi Tim
 +
I am interested in the compositions of G O Whitney.  Do you know whether there are any surviving descendants?
 +
best wishes from
 +
Roz Trubger
 +
  
Thank you for the welcome and it would be grand if you could match my username to the page.  I have average computer skills so sometimes don't know what I'm doing.
+
Tim,
  
Thank you for your help,
+
I know you haven't heard from me for a while, but the real reason is I am pretty much caught up on all my family, except of course the tie to John Whitney's father and mother. I just wanted you to know that my wife and I are going to do the DNA test next month and was going to ask what the best test for our money is. Also, I want to commend the whole WRG on the help they have given to the many projects that have been done, thanks to your hard work. Thank you and thank you and thank you again. I have been watching you know. I am a school bus driver now in our (!gulp) old age. That hurts.
Lisbeth
 
  
you wrote.....
+
Thanks,
  
Welcome to the site!
+
Arv Whitney
  
I see that you tried to move one of your pages to make it look better. Since these pages are ties to your username here, they have to stay the same. I can, however, change your username/login here to match that if you'd like.
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== Discussion Forums ==
 
 
- Tim Doyle - Talk to me 15:31, 1 October 2007 (CDT)
 
 
 
== Dates ==
 
 
 
These are census dates.  The marriage dates came from Ancestry.  Thanks.
 
 
 
tara_767
 
 
 
== Hiram ==
 
  
 
Tim,
 
Tim,
  
I have not finished editing Hiram yet.  There will be several more pages that will be added before I am finished.  I just got tired last night before I finished. I'll add the rest tonight.  Thanks.
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Are the Discussion Forums dead? If so, what happened to all the messages posted there?
  
[[User:Tara_767|tara_767]]
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[[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 08:48, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
  
== Introduction Page Error, etc. ==
+
== Horace Burnham Whitney ==
  
Tim:
+
Mr. Doyle:
  
At the bottom of [[Discussion Forum - User Introductions]] there is a link labeled "Introduce Yourself!". Clicking on it gives a blank page.  This must be an error.
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I have information of the Horace Burnham Whitney family, and have done extensive research into this direct line. I have the family information for his line up to the present.
  
Also I have found three pages which need content:
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Horace Burnham Whitney was born 9-13-1806 in Lansingburg, NY and died 9-21-1831 aged 25 years and 8 days by drowning in the Mississippi River, 40 miles upriver from Fort Armstrong.  According to Lucetta (Frazier) Whitney, his wife's, hand written notation in the family bible.  I have a photo copy of the page notation.
* [[WRG:Privacy policy]]
 
* [[WRG:General disclaimer]]
 
* [[Archive:Whitney and Clifford Manuscript, 316]]
 
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 15:30, 8 October 2007 (CDT)
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I also have the children of his son Horace Burnham Whitney's family listing following the line through to myself, going through Layfayette, Clyde, Thomas and myself Bruce.  Taken from census, gravestones, Adams and Hancock Co. ILL records, as well as birth, death and marriage certificates, family notes, bibles and accounts.
  
== Fred ==
+
Thank you.
  
Tim:
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== Ephraim Bennett Whitney ==
 
 
I can't identify him.  The vital records of Boston 1810-1840 are no longer extant, which makes it difficult, and he's not in Pierce, nor in FamilySearch.org.  My best guess is that, since his second son was named Henry, he might be one of the three sons under 10 of Henry Whitney in the 1820 Census of Boston, 9th ward.  Of course, I don't know who that Henry was, either!
 
 
 
Did you see [http://www.rarebooks.nd.edu/digital/early_american/letters/index.shtml this web page]?
 
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 08:39, 12 October 2007 (CDT)
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Do you have any information on Ephraim Bennett Whitney?
  
== Thomas of Maryland ==
+
== New Main Heading? ==
  
 
Tim,
 
Tim,
  
I have not seen this family before.  In Kentucky there are several men who are considered "Clothiers" by occupation so that is something to look into, but as of right now, I am not familiar with this gentleman.
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We have several pages which are similar, but probably don't fit well under any of our current main headings under Archives: (Extracts, Court Records, Tax Records, Land Records, etc.).  I found:
 +
* [[Archive:Calendar of Patent Rolls]]
 +
* [[Archive:Herefordshire Institution Entries]]
 +
* [[Archive:Records from A2A]]
 +
* [[Archive:Records in the British Library]]
 +
* [[Archive:Records in the National Library of Wales]]
 +
* [[Archive:The Langham (Cottesbrooke) Collection]]
 +
* [[Archive:University of Nottingham]]
 +
* [[Archive:University of Victoria Special Collections]]
 +
Perhaps there are others, too.
  
Tara_767
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Would these perhaps fit into some new main heading, or an existing one?  Then we could give them some decent breadcrumbs.
  
== New Wiki ==
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[[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 00:51, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
  
Tim:
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== New Main Heading, II ==
  
Have you seen this?
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Tim,
:[http://www.familysearchwiki.org/ http://www.familysearchwiki.org/]
 
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 12:27, 17 October 2007 (CDT)
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How about "Collections" or "Repositories" for the new main heading (as above)?
  
Hi Tim:
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[[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 12:51, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
  
I'm new to this Whitney clan and just signed on. I have a question about DNA testing as there appear to be many different firms performing this...
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== Inserting an Image into a Pierce Page ==
  
I have been working a bit with the organizer of this page: http://www.foskett-genealogy.co.uk/ and she arranged for my Foskett cousin to submit DNA to dnaheritage.com
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Tim,
 
 
I'm wondering if you have surveyed the various companies. Who are the leaders. If dnaheritage is a bit player I suspect it's possible that DNA submitted with one firm might not match up with dna that appears in a larger firm's database.
 
 
 
Thanks.
 
tombrown 'at' yahoo.com
 
 
 
Hi Tim - Looked at some of the 1830 census project states that have been completed, I see there is some inconsistency.  I am making mine three lines long, because I have found some variations in the names, I am using the second line to clarify those differences.  I see someone numbered the Kentucky folks and there is a header in one of the states I did.  Because I am doing my lists in a word document and then copying to WRG I can make changes, if necessary, to previous records.  I just posted New Hampshire, would you mind taking a peek to see if it looks okay?  Thanks much.
 
 
 
Carol
 
 
 
== Nameless Children ==
 
 
 
Tim:
 
 
 
I agree:  (son), (daughter), or (child).  I assume a bot can do the changes.
 
 
 
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 17:59, 29 October 2007 (CDT)
 
 
 
== Total Whitneys ==
 
 
 
Tim:
 
 
 
One should be able to combine the data from [[How many Whitneys?]] with fertility and life expectancy data, and come up with a figure for total number of Whitneys in a given window of time (say 1600-1900).  I don't know where to obtain such data.  I call to your attention to this interesting web site: [http://www.math.hawaii.edu/~ramsey/People.html How many people have ever lived?  Keyfitz's calculation updated].  The assumptions there are quite wrong, partly because life spans have increased during the time frame in question, but such a technique could be the start of such an investigation.
 
 
 
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 05:33, 30 October 2007 (CDT)
 
 
 
== Access Issue ==
 
 
 
Tim:
 
 
 
I think the access issue had to do with trying to patrol the changes you made to [[User:Tdoyle/Sandbox18]].  Attempting to do that seems to have hung my browser, due to its large size.  Killing the window and starting over, and using the procedure you suggested for patrolling large pages was successful in both the patrolling and the un-hanging of the browser.  I'll have to keep that in mind next time!
 
 
 
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 05:37, 30 October 2007 (CDT)
 
 
 
== Big Census Extracts ==
 
 
 
Tim:
 
 
 
I agree that breaking the page up is a good idea.  With 775 households in Massachusetts in 1860, including 275 in Worcester County alone, it really is too big.  I'll proceed along those lines now.
 
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 14:55, 4 November 2007 (CST)
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I have been having trouble inserting an image into a Pierce page.  Apparently just putting <nowiki>[[File:Name.jpg|thumb|right|<p class="Plaintext" align=center>Caption.</p>]] is not enough.  When I tried that, it shifted all the text at the left out of Pierce-text mode and back into the basic mode.  I also tried using a table, even an HTML table, and put the text in the left part and the image in the right part, but the text was still in basic mode, even if I tried <p id="Pierce-text> or <p class="Plaintext"></nowiki> inside the left-hand part where the text is.
  
== Liz Fleming's Whitney family ==
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Should we just put a link from the string "[Photo]" to the file with the image in it?  I don't like this kind of "solution", but I can't see what else to do.
  
Thank you very much.  This is incredibly helpful.  I printed everything up so I can enjoy it at home tonight after work.  (I don't have a computer at home).  My ancestors are definitely Henry and Fanny Miller Whitney and Charles Whitney and Malvina Orr.  I have information from the Whitney Bible at home and they are all mentioned in it.  Do you think anyone would be interested in knowing about our line from Ada Whitney to present? I have a lot of that information.  Thanks again for your help.  Everything about these people--who they were and what they did is fascinating to me.  Liz
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Is this issue related to the one with a table in which the plaintext has different sizes in different cells?
 
 
== Family Info ==
 
 
 
That would be fine.  I can bring my information to work next week and transcribe it.  I am not very computer literate.  Is there a special format or is it ok to just send it to you via this route?  I also got to meet my mom's cousin, Ralph Whitney in September and he sent me additional information about the descendants of Dora Wurst Whitney and and Ora Ralph Whitney.  Thanks again!  Liz
 
 
 
== Census Index ==
 
 
 
Tim:
 
 
 
There are two ways to organize the census pages:  by year, and by location.  We could actually do both. 
 
* On the main page, list the years, with links to year pages, and the locations, with links to location pages.
 
* On each year page, list the locations for that year (and the potential heads, where appropriate), with links.  There should be links to the next and the previous years.
 
* On each location page, list the years for that location, with links.  There could be links to neighboring locations.
 
* Have a page for each year and each location, with links to the index and the extracts.  There could be links to next and previous years for that location, and neighboring locations for that year.
 
* As now, the index pages are linked to the extract pages, the extract pages to the family group records and vice versa.
 
  
 
Thoughts?
 
Thoughts?
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 11:41, 11 November 2007 (CST)
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[[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 13:01, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
  
== Census Reorganization ==
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== Breadcrumbs ==
  
Tim:
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Tim,
  
We could get rid of the grid, or we could keep it if you like it.  If we kept it, each grid entry should be a link not to the census index page, but to the location/year page.
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I created "Archive:Repositories" and populated it, then created breadcrumbs for those pages linked from it.  That leaves just seven pages without proper breadcrumbs.  I am baffled what to do with them:
 +
* [[Archive:Adrian Notes From NYPL]]
 +
* [[Archive:Charles F Whitney Diary]]
 +
* [[Archive:Herefordshire Institution Entries]]
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* [[Archive:SP 46/63/fo 76]]
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* [[Archive:Slave Registers of former British Colonial Dependencies, 1812-1834]]
 +
* [[Archive:The Chivalry of Cheshire]]
 +
* [[Archive:The Court Case of Thomas Whitney the Younger]]
  
I'm not sure how we should handle the breadcrumbs for pages which properly belong to two parents.
+
Suggestions?
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 21:32, 11 November 2007 (CST)
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[[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 15:20, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
  
== Samuel of Jamaica, VT ==
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== Missing Image from Pierce ==
  
Tim:
+
Tim,
 
 
Your analysis is excellent.  I have a candidate for Samuel Whitney of Jamaica, VT:  check out [[Family:Whitney, Aaron (1734-a1791)]], who lived in Jamaica.  Notice Samuel named a son Aaron, too.
 
  
This looks like another error in Pierce.
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I just went through the list of images scanned from Pierce and uploaded.  There is one missing.  It should be named
 +
:File:J. L. Whitney, Pierce, p. 275.jpg
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Can you get your source for the other images to provide this one, too?  If not, the one in my reprint is actually of fair quality, and could serve.
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 22:09, 13 November 2007 (CST)
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The odd thing is that it is not included in the List of Illustrations on page 7 of Pierce!  Furthermore, it is not clear of whom this is a picture.  Possibly it is of James Lewis Whitney, #1984, on p. 279, although the data included there for him is very sparse.
  
== James Whitney m. Lura Johnson ==
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This is the strangest error in Pierce I have seen yet, and that's saying something!
  
Tim:
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[[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 15:38, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
  
I've been looking at [[Family:Whitney, James (1811-1856)]], and [[Archive:Wrentham, Massachusetts, Vital Records]].  What do you think about identifying the two Jameses, at least tentatively, even though their birth dates differ by two days?  Benjamin who m. Hepzibah Moore was said to have settled in New York (see [[Family:Whitney, James (1755-1800)]]), but I haven't been able to pinpoint his location there.
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== Category:Vital Records ==
  
Both of James's sons I found in the 1880 Census, but both left father's birthplace blank!  His daughter Mary I didn't find.
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Tim,
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 15:43, 17 November 2007 (CST)
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Today I stumbled on [[:Category:Vital Records]].  Obviously it hasn't been used for the purpose for which you created it.  Should we just get rid of it (my preference), or should we spread it onto all vital records pages?
  
== Duplicates on "Wanted Pages" ==
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[[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 15:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
  
Tim:
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== DNA Testing ==
  
I went to "Special Pages" and then "Wanted Pages"I found several duplicates on that list, to my surprise.  For example, I found
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Tim, I was looking at that section earlier this week and considering this optionNot sure i fully understand the "my talk" function, but will try contacting Whitney Keen (whitldna) about the next step.
  315. Family:Whitney, Anna (1730-1785) ‎(2 links)
 
  1007. Family:Whitney, Anna (1730-1785) ‎(2 links)
 
There were quite a few others, too.  This seems like a bug to me.
 
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 17:57, 18 November 2007 (CST)
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Thanks for the suggestion.
  
== Samuel of Maugerville ==
+
Brad
 +
--[[User:Bradrockwood|Bradrockwood]] 20:50, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
  
Tim:
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== DNA Testing II ==
 
 
See:  <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/whitney/2001-02/0981345948>.  Apparently Pierce is wrong again.  By the way "Maugerville" is pronounced as if it were "Majorville".
 
 
 
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 12:40, 21 November 2007 (CST)
 
 
 
== Great! ==
 
 
 
Just going through my old geneology book to create our page! Don't worry, I'll go back through and update the gaps, I just want to get it done before family come over for thanksgiving!
 
 
 
== thanks ==
 
 
 
I deleted my personal information, but do you prefer to have living persons pages completely erased? I really don't mind if my lineage is shown to the public.
 
 
 
== How does it look? ==
 
 
 
How does it look? I have somemore updates that I will recieve from my grandmother tomorrow and I will continue to update it over the break.
 
 
 
== Patrol Edit ==
 
 
 
Tim:
 
 
 
The removed material was restored by this edit: [http://wiki.whitneygen.org/wrg/index.php?title=Henry_Whitney_Descendants_by_Generation&diff=next&oldid=59018].  Thanks for your vigilance, however!
 
 
 
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 14:02, 26 November 2007 (CST)
 
 
 
== Merging FGR Format Pages ==
 
 
 
Tim:
 
 
 
I've attempted to merge Family Group Page Format Standards into [[Family Group Record Format]].  Please review my attempt carefully, and make any changes you think appropriate.  When you are satisfied, please delete the former, redirecting links from it to the latter.
 
 
 
Actually, the page is over-long, and begs to be split into four:  the example, the general formats, the specific items, and using the form or the templates.
 
 
 
I especially wish that there were a simpler, more direct way of using the two templates.  I know we had such a way with one of them before the form was created.
 
 
 
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 07:05, 3 December 2007 (CST)
 
 
 
== James Whitney of Moriah, NY ==
 
 
 
Tim:
 
 
 
I definitely agree that we have a match with James, son of Benjamin and Hepzibah (Moore) Whitney and James, with wife Susan (not Lura) Johnson.  Go ahead and take out the tentative language on both pages, and in the Notes section explain the logic of the identification.
 
 
 
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 05:24, 5 December 2007 (CST)
 
 
 
== Samuel of Seneca, NY ==
 
 
 
Tim:
 
 
 
I fixed the baptism location.  Here is another candidate for him.  See [[Family:Whitney, Joshua (1754-a1794)]].  This one is more closely approximating his estimated age, and we don't know a whole lot about Joshua's family.
 
 
 
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 15:56, 8 December 2007 (CST)
 
 
 
== Ads. ==
 
  
 
Tim,
 
Tim,
  
I can't help much with this.  Those minutes are too abbreviated for me to reconstruct what matters they refer to.  Your guess is as good as mine.
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Is Whitney Keen still cordinating testing?  I left a "my talk" message a week ago or do I just contact FamilyTreeDNA directly for a test kit?
  
I did find this page: [http://www.historiccourtrecords.org/extracts.stm#remarks http://www.historiccourtrecords.org/extracts.stm#remarks].  It says that "ads." means "adverse".  I don't know what this implies.  Perhaps it is an action where each party sues the other, as opposed to versus, where one sues the other.
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Brad
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 10:55, 19 December 2007 (CST)
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--[[User:Bradrockwood|Bradrockwood]] 20:45, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
  
== 1810 Progress ==
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== Bot Task ==
  
 
Tim,
 
Tim,
  
I've reached the end of the 1810 part of the Census Identification ProjectI am disappointed at the number of unidentified census entries, and the number of missing households expected to appearAny assistance you can offer would be most welcome.
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There are many, many links to the NEHGS websiteUnfortunately, the URL for that has changed from "www.newenglandancestors.org" to "www.americanancestors.org"Please write and run a bot to make this change everywhere.
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 17:53, 22 December 2007 (CST)
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- [[User:Rlward|Robert Ward]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 20:40, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
  
== New to WRG ==
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== New Page for Mother ==
  
Hi Tim,
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hey tim i made a new family page for my mother, could you please delete the old one: Mayer, Beverly Jeanette (?-?)
My name is Patty Whitney and I am going by the user name Patty Whitney Gravois.  Just wanted to check in and say hello.  You really have done a wonderful job with this site.  I've been lurking for years.  I'm trying to find Chris Jarvis, who has written to you before.  She called me a few months ago but her phone number was accidentally deleted from my answering machine before I could get it down.  I've been trying to find her email on the site but am having trouble doing so.  Would you be so kind as to notify her that I am trying to reach her and would she please re-call me in Louisiana or email me? Thank you.  Patty.
 
  
== Sandys Tribe ==
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thanks. i texted you last night about our articles -- i see you got lots of work on this site to keep you busy!! LOL.
  
Tim:
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i'm crazy busy at work today.
  
There is no apostrophe in Sandys Tribe, Bermuda.
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talk soon!!!
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 12:29, 1 January 2008 (CST)
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A
  
== James Whitney from Wales ==
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== Clinton Russell Whitney, etc. ==
  
Hi Tim
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Hi, I don't have much information about the Whitney family, just what I think is correct. My uncles name is Jimmie Whitney or James and he was born in the 1920s or 30s. Someone wrote me on ansestory and said his name is James Evander Whitney.  It was confirmed, she and her husband knew him as kids.  They spoke on the phone.  She knew all the Whitney brothers. But he couldn't have been born in the 1800s hes still alive. My grandfather was Everett I believe, he was married to Gladys Doucette. He owned an auto body shop with my father Clinton until my dad went to the Army.
Thanks for your info and speedy reply. I'm new at this so I hope my page looks OK.  
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I would like to know any information family history, but I'm also really trying to find my mother. Stella L. White-Whitney married to Clinton Russell Whitney about 1958. 
I have a few questions from your census information: How did you connect James with David? Was it via John? There is a David Whitney for 1841 and another for 1871, they don't have the same children listed and Louisa age does not match up ... I'm a little confused here.  
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My other uncles were Evie or Everett, and Richard Whitney they both are deseased.
Is there a way I can find out what happened to Ernest brothers? (Harold, Arthur and John). Again thank you for your reply the info has been a great gain in connecting our Whitney tree.
 
--[[User:Whitner|Whitner]] 18:21, 10 January 2008 (CST)
 
  
== Mary Whitney Children ==
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Thank-You,
  
Tim:
+
Shirleywhitney
  
Check out the name disambiguation page [[Mary Whitney]].  There is only one child Mary Whitney without her own page! This has got to be wrong.  I'm looking for a Mary Whitney born 1785, of which there should be some candidates.
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== Anna Whitney brickwall BUSTED !!! (a 5 yr effort) ==
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 07:32, 8 January 2008 (CST)
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Tim, I haven't talked to you in about 2 years.  In that time I have visited the LDS Library in Salt Lake City twice and the last trip, in August, I discovered Anna Whitney's parents - ya gotta love Probate Records!  She is the daughter of Joshua Whitney (b. Dec 23, 1757 in Willington, CT; d. May 18, 1797 Belchertown, MA) and Dorothy Knowlton of Belchertown, MA.  I also found in the record a complete listing of their other children.  I also found the probate records for Benjamin Whitney (Willington, CT and Belchertown, MA) who is the father of Joshua.  I would like your recommendations on how best to get all this information loaded into the WRG site.  I am looking to do much more on this effort in the coming winter months.  I can enter the information as I did before with the sources identified and hopefully you are able to adjust any mistakes.  I haven't "published" any of this information yet but I am in the process of creating a website using TNG (another learning experience!).  I really want to get this on the WRG site first since it has been extremely helpful in my search.
 +
Thanks,
 +
Doug Wood
  
== Search Question ==
+
== Re: Your DNA Results ==
  
Tim:
+
Tim,
  
How would one search for a widow Mary (-----) Whitney, born 1785, who remarried in 1845? I can't think of any useful way to proceed.
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Thanks for the words of encouragement.  I hadn’t really considered an immigrant from a later date angle.  I’ll keep looking, perhaps not as intensely for a while, but I’ll keep looking. After all, we Whitney’s don’t give up!
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 10:01, 9 January 2008 (CST)
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I assume if I checked all the boxes correctly on FamilyTreeDNA.com, someone will be receiving a copy of my results and posting them.  If they don’t get a copy, we can work out an alternate arrangement of sending in the results.
  
== Strays ==
+
Thanks again!
  
Tim:
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[[User:Bradrockwood|Brad]] - [[User talk:Bradrockwood|my talk]]
 
 
What do you think of making a page listing stray Whitney individuals whom we cannot connect to any others?  That would make unnecessary a lot of pages without much information on them.  Each entry could link to the source of the data.  This would serve a similar function to our currently existing Most Wanted Whitneys pages.  There are quite a few among the medieval Whitney families, but even more in the Massachusetts town vital records, and also in the 1800 and 1810 censuses.  Thoughts?
 
 
 
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 15:15, 10 January 2008 (CST)
 
  
== Re:  Joseph Whitney and George Washington Whitney ==
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== Immigrant Research ==
  
 
Tim,
 
Tim,
  
I maintain a tree on Ancestry (named FIELD) which includes the Whitney line, etc. My grandfather, Charles Whitney, back in the '80s before he passed away, took some time to chart out both his paternal (Whitney) and maternal (Barton) linesHe did a good job, but with the luxury of the Internet, I believe I've been able to fill in his research a bit.
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I’ve been thinking more about what you said about immigrants other than the well-known families being a possible source for my family.  I don’t know why I didn’t think of that; guess I still have a lot to learn about genealogyFor all I really know, Daniel could be the immigrant himself despite what his bible record says except there isn't a Daniel in the list.
  
His chart shows Joseph Whitney (son of Caleb Whitney and Annes Church) the father of George Washington Whitney with a christianing date of 1813 in Utica, NYHe shows Joseph having been born 7/6/1760 in Sterling, MA and passing away, 9/24/1840 in Hubbardston, MA, of cancer. He shows Joseph having been married to an Esther Crittendon of CT, whose father is listed as the Revolutionary soldier, Gideon Crittendon, with mother having been Esther Cone.
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Can you provide some guidance on how to go about such research?  I’ve looked over the various lists, but noticed there are no links to family pagesDoes this mean we don’t know anything about them or that there just isn’t a link? I guess I haven’t looked at enough family pages to know if some include immigration records.
  
In my research (and I'm open to making changes if necessary) I have found, on this site I believe, Joseph b. 7/9/1760 in Harvard, MA.  His death date, according to Hubbardston VR, is 9/24/1840, of cancer.  I've located an 1830 census of Hubbardston, Worcester, MA, listing a Joseph Whitney, age between 60 and 70.  He resides near the Greenwood family.  In the 1840 census of Hubbardston I find a J. W. Whitney, over 70 then, living with a male listed as between 30 and 40 (maybe George W.).  Again, he resides next to the Greenwood family.
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Thoughts?
  
By 1850, there's no Joseph or J. W. Whitney in Hubbardston, but there appears his son, George W.  I have a Land Ownership Map in my Ancestry online collection which shows George Whitney in Hubbardston, MA.  Interestingly enough, he's living next to a Mrs. Greenwood.
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[[User:Bradrockwood|Brad]] - [[User talk:Bradrockwood|my talk]]
  
Recently  I had the Worcester County library find George W. Whitney's death record.  The record indicates a date of death of 2/28/1882 in Phillipston, MA, which corresponds to his last known place of residence according to the 1880 census.  His age is given as 78. His parents, in the record, are listed as a Joseph and an Esther (apparently no maiden name is given).
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== Jason Frost Whitney and my grandmother Mary Winona Whitney ==
  
I'm continuing my research on this. I'm not certain that Crittendon (alternatives including Crittenden and Cruttenden) was Esther's maiden name. I'm trying to track down George W's siblings, if any, and wonder whether or not an Artemesia (or Artemecia) living in the Templeton/Hubbardston area, with an Esther at one point, also b. in NY is George W's sister.   
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I'm sorry...but I just can't seem to catch on to the methods of adding onto my line on here.   
  
George W. married a Maria Tenney around 1860The Tenney maternal line, according to Ancestry and so far not in conflict with my findings, actually is a closer relation to Eli Whitney, of cotton gin fame, than from my Whitney paternal line.
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It would the same for me (with Jason and Mary) as Durrell hasCan you copy the info on my line for me.
  
Hope this helps with the good research that's being done on the WRG.
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I'm afraid my technology genealogy days or pretty much over. Thanks...Tricia
  
Martin Field
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== Found Baby Book on some Whitneys ==
  
== Plantagenet Ancestry Edits ==
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Eunice Douette is my  Great Grandmother  J Douette is my Great Grandfather (I thought Doucette had a C in it?
  
Tim:
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:Gladys Marie Douette is my Grandmother
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:Clinton Russell Whitney is my Father
  
While I don't have the original to compare, I believe all the changes I made were of a typographical nature, and so just correcting Adrian's transcription.  I am least confident about changing TRUSSEL to TRUSSELL in two places (but that seems innocuous) and changing Gocg to Goch.  The latter is a valid Welsh word, but the former is nonsense, and g and h are contiguous on the keyboard.  You can google them both to see my point.  If this still bothers you, I suggest you get Adrian to check the original.
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Carre Johnson is my Great Grandmother      James Whitney is my Great Grandfather 
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 09:08, 12 January 2008 (CST)
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:Grandfather is Everett  Whitney
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:Father is Clinton Russell Whitney
  
Well I got the photo of Margaret Calder Morrison #167 (photos) to "upload log"  Now what? Tracy
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== Warning Template ==
  
== Missing Children ==
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Tim,
  
Tim:
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Please fix the [[Template:Warning|Warning! template]].  The graphic is missing.
  
Your script to collect the names of children seems to have a problem with the children on [[Family:Whitney, Abijah (c1760-1829)]].  Neither Joseph nor Elisha shows up on his respective Name Disambiguation Page.  Also on [[Family:Whitney, Caleb (1740-1777)]], Oliver doesn't appear, either.
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- [[User:Rlward|Robert Ward]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 07:39, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 14:49, 28 January 2008 (CST)
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== original deed to Shadrack  Whitney ==
  
== Four Mystery Whitney Girls of Charlestown ==
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hello
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MY name is Alfred Tambling and i have the original deed that shows that Jereniah Ball sold a lott of land to your ancestor Shadrack Whitny.The deed is from 1739 and the town is townshend Mass and written in the old English.this document is in remarkable condition for being almost 300 years old.It was sold to him for the price of twenty pounds and still refers to the king as the owner of the said providence.So if there is anyinterest in this you may reach me at 802-885-5177 thanks so much for your time Alfred
  
Tim:
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== Getting in Touch ==
  
I have a theory about four otherwise unidentified Whitney girls whose marriage intentions are recorded in Charlestown, MA:
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You seem to be the source by which I've come across a certain Kiko Whitney. I am the brother of Kiko's biological mother and perhaps he may be interested in finding out more about her. I've left a message in the User talk and had sent an email. To date I have not received any notice. Is there any other way to communicate with Kiko?  Thanks
* Mr. Evans Anderson & Miss Mary Ann Whitney, both of Charlestown, entered Mar. 3, 1832.
 
* Mr. Thomas Hart [meaning Mr.Thomas Hartwell added above and in margin] of Shirley & Miss Eunice Whitney of Charlestown, entered May 25, 1833.
 
* Mr. William Hurd & Miss Sopeia Whitney, both of Charlestown, entered Dec. 12, 1835.
 
* Mr. Joseph W. Pennel of Malden & Miss Emily Whitney of Charlestown, entered Apr. 1, 1836.
 
  
Compare that with the following from the IGI, Batch No. 7450276, Film No. 0027730, Danville, Caledonia Co., VT:
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Richard James Whitney
* Whitney, Eunice, dau. Solomon and Margery, b. 1 Apr 1809.
 
* Whitney, Mary Ann, dau. Solomon and Margery, b. 4 Oct 1812.
 
* Whitney, Emily, dau. Solomon and Margery, b. 28 Mar 1816.
 
* Whitney, Sophia, dau. Solomon and Margery, b. 23 May 1818.
 
  
Then I found the 1850 census record of Evans Anderson and wife Mary A., in Concord, NH, and it says that she was aged 37, born in Vermont!
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== Discussion Forums, II ==
  
Now one problem is that these four girls born in Vermont had to somehow get from Danville, VT, to Charlestown, MA.  The IGI (not the reliable part) says that Solomon<sup>7</sup> Whitney, son of [[Family:Whitney, Silas (1737-1813)|Silas<sup>6</sup> and Jane (Pearson) Whitney]], was born in Rutland, Rutland Co., VT, and married Margery -----.  I notice that Solomon allegedly died in Stoneham, MA, adjacent to Charlestown, after 1860.
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Tim,
  
The 1850 Census of Charlestown includes Solomon Whitney, aged 72, born in Vermont, living in the family of Joseph Pennell and wife Emiline (aged 35, born in Vermont)!
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The "Discussion Forums" link in the navigation box leads to a page called "Discussion Forum Index".  From there, I find four links to pages which are not working any more.  I suggest deleting the latter page and removing the former link, at least until the forum pages are working again.
  
Do you concur with this analysis?  What do you think of creating a page for Solomon<sup>7</sup> Whitney with these identifications?
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- [[User:Rlward|Robert Ward]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 11:54, 5 February 2013 (CST)
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 12:20, 5 February 2008 (CST)
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Hi Tim:
 
 
== Four Mystery Whitney Girls of Charlestown ==
 
 
 
Tim:
 
 
 
I have a theory about four otherwise unidentified Whitney girls whose marriage intentions are recorded in Charlestown, MA:
 
* Mr. Evans Anderson & Miss Mary Ann Whitney, both of Charlestown, entered Mar. 3, 1832.
 
* Mr. Thomas Hart [meaning Mr.Thomas Hartwell added above and in margin] of Shirley & Miss Eunice Whitney of Charlestown, entered May 25, 1833.
 
* Mr. William Hurd & Miss Sopeia Whitney, both of Charlestown, entered Dec. 12, 1835.
 
* Mr. Joseph W. Pennel of Malden & Miss Emily Whitney of Charlestown, entered Apr. 1, 1836.
 
 
 
Compare that with the following from the IGI, Batch No. 7450276, Film No. 0027730, Danville, Caledonia Co., VT:
 
* Whitney, Eunice, dau. Solomon and Margery, b. 1 Apr 1809.
 
* Whitney, Mary Ann, dau. Solomon and Margery, b. 4 Oct 1812.
 
* Whitney, Emily, dau. Solomon and Margery, b. 28 Mar 1816.
 
* Whitney, Sophia, dau. Solomon and Margery, b. 23 May 1818.
 
 
 
Then I found the 1850 census record of Evans Anderson and wife Mary A., in Concord, NH, and it says that she was aged 37, born in Vermont!
 
  
Now one problem is that these four girls born in Vermont had to somehow get from Danville, VT, to Charlestown, MA.  The IGI (not the reliable part) says that Solomon<sup>7</sup> Whitney, son of [[Family:Whitney, Silas (1737-1813)|Silas<sup>6</sup> and Jane (Pearson) Whitney]], was born in Rutland, Rutland Co., VT, and married Margery -----I notice that Solomon allegedly died in Stoneham, MA, adjacent to Charlestown, after 1860.
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I received DYS#1-37 for my father last year, but they have not been recorded on the site. A relative has inquired about them so I want to make them available to herThanks for all you do to enlighten us regarding our ancestry.
  
The 1850 Census of Charlestown includes Solomon Whitney, aged 72, born in Vermont, living in the family of Joseph Pennell and wife Emeline (aged 35, born in Vermont)!
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Lorraine B.
  
Do you concur with this analysis?  What do you think of creating a page for Solomon<sup>7</sup> Whitney with these identifications?
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== Canada census at Ancestry.com ==
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 12:22, 5 February 2008 (CST)
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Hi Tim - It's been a long time since I've visited WRG.  I, of course, am still looking for family before my William!  I have recently concluded a volunteer project that took up a good bit of my time...so now I'm looking for a new project.  I see on the to do census list - 1851 Canada at Ancestry.com (World Membership required)along with additional future years.  I'm not sure what the World Membership provides but working at West Virginia University I have access to Ancestry.com and, therefore, Canadian census records for 1851, 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 and 1911. I'm wondering if this will provide the information needed?  I think there are 780 Whitney's listed in the 1911 census.
  
== Genealogy Questions ==
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I saw on your facebook page that Whitney Keen has spent 10 years working on the DNA project.  Has anyone ever made a connection with the DNA results?
  
Hi,
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I really like your facebook pictures of Dallas.  One of my bucket list wishes is to live in a big city...I love NYC but it's a little out of my price range.  I want to get up in the morning, head for the neighborhood deli for breakfast and to read the newspaper, stop at the local grocer for one days food and use public transportation daily rather than driving myself.  I grew up in a very small town - 11 in my graduating class - friends and family think I've lost my mind. 
  
My name is Esther and I am new to this group and process. I read your page and have read many old archives about you and Robert Ward. I have figured out that it seems that the two of you are who headed up this entire project and I want to say that that is wonderful, and thank you. Thank you so much, it has helped a lot.  
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When you get a chance let me know about the Canada census. Thanks.
  
I have copied and pasted a letter I just wrote to Robert L. Ward and would love if you or he or any one else would be willing to help me and my family with the following. Thanks, in advance!
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CWC
  
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== Canada census at Ancestry.com ==
  
Letter to Robert Ward:
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Hi Tim - It's been a long time since I've visited WRG.  I, of course, am still looking for family before my William!  I have recently concluded a volunteer project that took up a good bit of my time...so now I'm looking for a new project.  I see on the to do census list - 1851 Canada at Ancestry.com (World Membership required)along with additional future years.  I'm not sure what the World Membership provides but working at West Virginia University I have access to Ancestry.com and, therefore, Canadian census records for 1851, 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 and 1911. I'm wondering if this will provide the information needed?  I think there are 780 Whitney's listed in the 1911 census.
  
My name is Esther Smith. I am related to the Whitney line through Betsey WHITNEY. I have done my genealogy with my fathers help. We have gotten quite far in many lines and finding your Whitney research website has been wonderful!
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I saw on your facebook page that Whitney Keen has spent 10 years working on the DNA project. Has anyone ever made a connection with the DNA results?
  
I found it back when you were still developing it, but at that point was just going to college and falling in love and getting married and all those things, so I didn't take much time out then for genealogy, aside from a genealogy class I took at BYU-Hawaii in 2000.  
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I really like your facebook pictures of Dallas.  One of my bucket list wishes is to live in a big city...I love NYC but it's a little out of my price range.  I want to get up in the morning, head for the neighborhood deli for breakfast and to read the newspaper, stop at the local grocer for one days food and use public transportation daily rather than driving myself.  I grew up in a very small town - 11 in my graduating class - friends and family think I've lost my mind.
  
I am 27 years old and come from a family of 9 children. My father loves genealogy. He used to do all his genealogy by hand on yellow ledger pages and stuff before we ever had a computer (as a family). He got me involved in helping him on genealogy back when I was 5 years old. All of my sibblings help do the genealogy too.
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When you get a chance let me know about the Canada census. Thanks.
  
Are genealogy is getting huge and we need to find a way to combine all the various GEDCOM files together. Everytime any of us tries to our computer fries and we loose everything. And I have a pretty extensive computer that I do Web and Graphic design through.
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CWC
  
I know that this is getting long and you are wondering where I am going with it. It is just that I have read over old archives and such on here back from 1999 and forward and many of them have said that you and Tim Doyle are the ones who made all of this possible and the ones who "Know your stuff". So, I am contacting you for two reasons.
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== Whitney Photo #177 ==
  
#1. I am at a dead end on Betsey Whitney's first husband Aaron Davis, who I believe I am related through, and Susannah GERRY.
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What happened to Whitney Photo #177 (of my maternal grandfather, Frank. L. Whitney)?  I posted it a few years ago and it has appeared until recently.  All I seem to access is the copy that accompanied it.
  
#2. I am wondering if my father and I might be able to put our heads together with you and/or Tim Doyle and make another one of these web projects for other Surnames aside from just the Whitney side.
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== Whitney Photo #177 ==
  
Just to give you a genealogical idea of who I am down from Betsey Whitney, here you go:
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What happened to Whitney Photo #177 (of my maternal grandfather, Frank. L. Whitney)?  I posted it a few years ago and it has appeared until recently.  All I seem to access is the copy that accompanied it.
  
Israel WHITNEY + Susannah GERRY
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== Hi Tim ==
  
Betsey WHITNEY +  Aaron DAVIS
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Have been off line .... getting back into it
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see the site nice to know it's still here.
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How is the DNA research going?
  
Narcisi HAZEN (aka. Nelson DAVIS) + Appoline (Pauline) CHAMPEAU
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== Birthdate????? ==
  
Apoline (Pauline) HAZEN + Louis LAMIRANDE
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Hi Tom,
  
Agnes Marie LAMIRANDE + Fredrick Rapheal PARMENTIER
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      I was working on my file to add in some more information and came across a problem for Phineas W. Whitney ( son f Phineas and Hannah).
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I am finding a few different birth dates in records as well as Christning dates.
  
Phyllis May PARMENTIER + Kenneth William VERHAGEN
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One is May 7, 1844 the other is June 14, 1843, both have listed as parents:Phineas Whitney and mother Hannah, also both are for Portland, Maine.
  
Paul Kenneth VERHAGEN + Merrily HILL
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Can you offer any help.
 
 
Esther Michelle VERHAGEN (Smith) ***Me***
 
 
 
I have an e-mail that I can send as an attachment or copy and paste, if you are interested on all the current information we have regarding Aaron Davis and what we are still seeking on him.
 
 
 
I would truly appreciate if you could help us in either or both areas! If you are unable to do so however, please direct me to whom I should contact and how.
 
 
 
Please e-mail me at [email protected]
 
 
 
Thank you so much in advance!
 
Esther Smith
 
 
 
== Census project ==
 
 
 
Tim - It appears the census project is humming right along. I have to make one final trip to the library to double check ancestry records for Mass. (I used heritage quest to gather data). I would like to continue working on this project if there is more work to be done. I have looked through several states in subsequent years, they appear to all be assigned. Is there an easier way to tell what states still need researched? Thanks much. Carol
 
 
 
Hi Tim - Weather permitting I am going to finish up my library work on Mass. tomorrow.  I will then start a "Whiting" "Whitny" and "Whiting" check (I found several instances in Mass. where Whiting was really Whitney). Thanks much.
 
 
 
Carol
 
 
 
== Main Page Layout ==
 
 
 
Tim:
 
 
 
Can you make the box on the right-hand side of the Main Page shorter?  I'd rather have the information in the center column shorter, which could happen if it wraps around a shorter box, getting wider below its bottom edge.
 
 
 
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 19:40, 20 February 2008 (CST)
 
 
 
== Which County? ==
 
 
 
Tim:
 
  
In assigning counties in Category: links, I have run onto a quandary.  Consider Roxbury, MA.  When counties were established, it was part of Suffolk County.  When Norfolk County was established by being split off from Suffolk County, in 1793, it became part of Norfolk County.  Then in 1867, it was annexed by the City of Boston, and again became part of Suffolk County.  So which county name should I use in the Category: links?  So far, I've used Suffolk, but now I'm leaning towards Norfolk.  Or should it be time-dependent, so before 1793 or after 1867, we use Suffolk, and between those dates, Norfolk?  Or should we use both?
 
  
- [[User:Rlward|Robert]] - [[User_talk:Rlward|Talk to me]] 13:56, 22 February 2008 (CST)
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      Thank you
  
== Re: Joseph Whitney Hubbardston, MA ==
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== How to find Gen Tree on WRG? ==
  
Looks like we've been able to fill in some info on Joseph Whitney's familyI'm glad you were able to get the date of death for his wife, Esther (Crittenden) -- she wasn't in the MA Secretary of State's archives.
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Dear Tim:
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  I'm finally trying to report in on my father, Raymond Lloyd Whitney, and mother, Jane McMicken Whitney, and their 3 daughters (I'm the oldest living here in Frisco, TX)Way back when, you and Robert assigned me a username to login.  At that time, I saw a Genealogy Tree from the descendants of John Whitney. How do I find that again?
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  Nancy Whitney Doxey
  
I'm curious as to the source for the marriage date for Joseph's son, George Washington Whitney.  Although his wife shows up as Elmira, on my grandfather's genealogy chart and all the censuses she is known as Maria A ("A" for Arvilla).  MA VR shows Maria marrying a Hopkins in 1899, in Petersham.  She is later found residing with her daughter Mary Ellen in NH.
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== Cemetery Photos of Fischer Whitney (1775-1805) ==
  
George W. Whitney may have married first an Abigail Sawyer on 9/18/1839, Templeton VR.
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Hi Tim, I recently visited the gravesite of Fischer Whitney at the West River Cemetery, Yates County, New York, I have some photos of his gravestone that I would like to put on this website.  I am not sure how to do it or who to send the photos to. Can you help me out with this?
  
Joseph's son with the alternate names of Balak, Baruch, Barah is mentioned in the Town History of Hubbardston.  He is said to have married (probably 2nd) an Elmira Elizabeth Greenwood b. 1842, on 2/10/1871.  It goes on to say that he died on 7/26/1877 (the MA VR for Hubbardston backs this up).  It uses the name Baruch as does a later census (1870?).  Also, a book on the Greenwood genealogy mentions Baruch and says that he was b. in Utica, NY, of Josiah and Martha (Crittenden) Whitney.  The name of Martha may be an error or perhaps was her middle name (?).
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Many years ago I sent some photos of James Watkins Whitney gravesite in Quasqueton, IA but I don't remember how I did it.
  
If you'd like to discuss, please feel free to do so.
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Thanks, my email address is below.
  
Martin
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Chris Whitney (Whitnet2950)
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Albert Russell Whitney family

I have finished updating Albert's family page that you started. It doesnt appear when you do a search from the main page but does show a link to an article for him. Do I have to create another page for him for it to show up or can it just be copy and pasted? Thanks, Jim

Operator Error

Okay, You can ignore this one Tim, operator error. I wasnt using the search bar properly. Thanks, Jim

Missing Photos

Tim,

Check out Archive:A Family Sketch. There are several missing images there. I cannot find these files in my computer and backups. Do you have copies?

-- Robert - Talk to me 07:49, 9 January 2010 (CST)

Carlos Whitney

Thank you for starting a page for Carlos Whitney. I contacted the author who had mentioned him in his book and while he didn't have any new info., he did suggest a couple resources re: Adirondack Guide History. I will certainly add any info. I find to the page.

Thanks again, Sherry.

My William

Dear Tim,

That's him! (Feels silly think of him as 'mine', though I guess he is my 3rd great grandfather!) What we know from history is that the Neil House burnt to the ground in 1860. We find William and his wife & daughters at this time still in Ohio, and William is working as a RR conductor. In 1870 the family lives in Indianapolis, as well as a new addition, little William, age 8 (who was born in Ohio, so we can deduce that the family moved sometime around/after 1862). William (now a 'Sr' of sorts) is employed as a RR Clerk. We know from "Selected Counties of Ohio 1789-1850, Marriages" that William's daughter Harriet married Frank Bird, and I do have a newspaper clipping from March 14, 1900 detailing the marriage of Harriet's daughter Jessie Holiday Bird to Harry William Griffith (son of Elnora Libby & William Chenowith Griffith). My grandmother's notes declare that Harriet passed away 13 July, 1924. Her daughter Jessie would go on to give birth to Richard Gordon Griffith (1902)and Nancy Bird Griffith (1907). Jessie died in 1957 in Battle Creek, MI. Her daughter Nancy, mother of Jane Griffith Peirce Wood, is my grandmother.

I have correspondence from a genealogical hunt that Nancy and a friend of a friend endeavored back in the late seventies, and they where totally stumped as to Harriet's parentage. It feels good to know that I am at least one step closer to solving the mystery! (And to think - they had to do all the research by hand! Oy! Thank Goodness for computers!)

Thanks you so much for your help and your resources!

Gwendolyn

My Whitney Family

Tim,

Thank you for the welcome, and for looking over what I'd done. I couldn't work out how to link the pages myself, so thank you for doing that. I do have a couple more generations to add on, before we get too close to the present.

I did wonder if mine might connect somehow to the John Whitney of Stoke-Goldington - however, at the moment that almost 300 year gap isn't bridgeable. I have a lot of ideas on how to go further, mostly involving parish registers, but living in outback Australia makes some research quite difficult.

My most recent Whitney ancestor was my great-great-grandmother, Salome, so I don't have any contact with any male Whitney relatives, although there are many in Australia - the family took literally the urge to "go forth and multiply"! There has been a research book published on this Whitney line in Australia - is there somewhere on the site I could add this, as well? I didn't write it, but I do have a copy.

Fascinating site, I'm still finding new things.

Regards, Fiona

Chicheley Records

Yes, they are on my list of things I want to do, but when I say I live in the Australian outback, I mean outback. The nearest FHC is approximately 7 hours drive away from here. I am hoping for a trip to Sydney in the near future, and will see if I can order films in advance then, but I don't get to the city very often.

This is probably one of the worst places in the world to live for a genealogist, much as I love it for everything else!

Fiona

Thank you

Thank you Tim, for the welcome and the edit on my lineage. The information that I had retrieved of my Whitney lineage, I was unassure of it, however it just seem to continue from the family trees I had seen. However I do hope to discover the parenatge of Thomas Whitney from that point. This research group has been a great help.

Blessings and Thank you,

Shannon Stevens

Problem Page

Tim:

Check out this page: Archive:Some_of_the_Descendants_of_John_and_Elinor_Whitney

There is something very wrong with it!

Robert - Talk to me 14:49, 15 April 2010 (CDT)

Patrick Whitney

Thank you for the welcome. I was just looking at that Patrick yesterday. I'd like to find more documentation between John and Patrick if I could. It's a place to start anyway. LOL

John H. Whitney

Hi Tim,

Thank you for making the page for me, I'm lost, I messed it up, but I think I managed to resave it as it was. Not sure what I did wrong.

Anyway you make a comment about my ancestor John H., his mother being Nancy, this is right. Nancy would before/later ( forget the order) marry a man with the last name Sickles. They had a daughter Margaret Sickles who married an Anderson. I don't have my stuff in front of me, and I don't have a credit card to get back on ancestry.com to get this all straightened out again in my mind.

Having said, I feel that John H. Whitney's father was Richard.

If you look here: At the 1850 Izard county Arkansas census (Izard is a neighboring county to Independence), and close to the Missouri line (does anyone know what the real boundries were back then? What info can one trust...)

Anyway Nancy gets from northern Arkansas to southwestern Arkansas over the next ten years.

Just remembered she married the Sickles man first, then (must be) Richard Whitney.

Anyway get back to me if you want, I am exicted about this all again!

My Email is [email protected] should you want to contact me that way.

Help needed in sending you information

Hi Tim,

  I'm not good at high tech, Do you have an E-Mail address that I could use to send you

a two page letter about Stephen and Ruth (Boody)Whitney descendants, namely the children of Stephen and their locations. I also am developing a large file on Family Tree Maker of them, and am wondering how to send it to you. Gerald E. (Jerry) Whitney Milford, NEbraska 68405 [email protected]

Asa Whitney of Dutchess Co., NY

Hi Tim

I just went into the connection for Asa Whitney. Yes it is assumed he is the son of Ebenezer and Martha Sherwood. In the 1800 census for Litchfield, Conn Ebenezer is listed and below him is a John Sherwood. Helps to confirm maybe.

Asa's date of birth is August 14, 1804 and he died April 24, 1863. Asa was married to Julia Ann Quick ( this name comes from Sarah Jane's death certificate) b July 4, 1807 in England and died June 7, 1849. He later married Martha Bennett Wilson ( my grandmother who was married to Charles Wilson The Whiteys and the Wislon were next door neighbors.

There are 3 gravestones in the South Amenia Cemetery for Asa, Martha and Charles Wilson.

Marthann was the daughter bor May 5, 1825 Eliza was the daughter born Oct 11, 1827

Idid not see how I could make these corrections

Thank you for you help. We have lots more info on Sarah Jane including death cert.

Geri Zuccarino [email protected]

Hi agaim Tim

The Dna testing is being done on a male descendant of Stephen Morey Whitney. They hae some of the results which leans to John and Elinor in 1635. The rest of the testing should be finished soon and then I will let you know for sure.

Appreciate the extensive work that is done on this family.

Geri [email protected]

Maryland John J. & Mary Turner Whitney

Hi Tim,

I wrote to St. Mary's Church in Hagerstown Maryland looking for the marriage record for John & Mary Turner Whitney. http://wiki.whitneygen.org/wrg/index.php/Family:Whitney%2C_John_J._%28c1828-b1880%29

They didn't have a record for them, but they sent me one for: Michel Whitney marriage to Mary Ellen Payne from Four Locks on 14 Oct. 1858. Witness: Patrick Ryan & John Whitney

I can scan and send the record to you if you want. One page is a typed index and the other is the actual record. If you want me to scan it to this site, you'll have to walk me through it. I'm still learning to navagate :)

Colleen

Wikipedia Books

Tim,

There are several questions to which I don't know the answers. For example, if you implemented this, would there be a capability to import pages from other wikis, such as Wikipedia itself, in addition to pages from the WRG wiki? If so, or even if not, this could, indeed, have some benefit for our members, in my opinion. I can envision creating a book entitled, "Our Whitney Lineage", or "Our Whitney Cousins".

Robert - Talk to me 17:00, 11 May 2010 (CDT)

Patrick Whitney, II

Hi Tim,

I have no problem with the edits, I've yet to get the hang of it yet. Do whatever needs to be done to make it right.

Hi Tim,

I found an obituary notice for Patrick Whitney http://wiki.whitneygen.org/wrg/index.php/Family:Whitney%2C_Patrick_%28c1794-a1850%29

I'm not sure who to give the information to. I found the following on the "Washington County Free Library" site.

Obituary Notice for Patrick Whitney Dated: 9-21-1851 From: Herald of Freedom

"Near Four-Locks, on Saturday the 15th inst. Mr. Patrick Whitney, in the 50th year of his age."

Obituary for James Whitney Dated: 8-14-1917 From: Daily Mail Newspaper

"James Whitney, former boatman on the old C. and O. Canal, died at the home of his daughter, Mrs. J.A. Reed, 808 W. Franklin St. from heart trouble, aged 74 years. Besides his daughter, Mrs. Reed, he is survived by the following stepchildren: Mrs. E. O. Diffendaffer, this city; Mrs. Mary Scanland, Baltimore; Charles W. Durborow, this city, and William Durborrow, Sharpsburg. Funeral Friday at 2 p.m. by Rev. G.B. Townsend. Interment in Rose Hill cemetery."

also:

WHITNEY, DENNIS DATE PAPER PAGE/ COL TITLE/SUMMARY 4 Oct 1865 H&TL 1E QUALIFIED VOTERS OF DISTRICT NO…(REGISTERED VOTERS FOR DISTRICT 15 OF WASHINGTON COUNTY). (From the Herald & Torchlight Newspaper)


WHITNEY, MICHAEL DATE PAPER PAGE/ COL TITLE/SUMMARY 4 Oct 1865 H&TL 1E QUALIFIED VOTERS OF DISTRICT NO…(REGISTERED VOTERS FOR DISTRICT 15 OF WASHINGTON COUNTY).

    (From the Herald & Torchlight Newspaper)


1870 Census-Michael Whitney (District 15) Clearsprings Page 419

188, 214, Whitney, Michael, 29, M, M, Laborer, Born-Maryland, (Under if married in the year list month)-Aug.

                  Sarah, 27,F, M, K. house, Born-Ireland, (Under if married in the year list month)-Aug.

With the St. Mary's Church record: Michael Whitney (Of Four Locks)married Mary Ellen Payne on 14 Oct. 1858. She must have died and he married Sarah-August of 1870 as per the Census.

If I should be directing this information to some else let me know.

Thanks for your help! Colleen

I would take the test, but I have no idea what that "kit" would cost.

I take random drug tests at work. The test is oral. You keep the test surface between the cheek and gum for 3 minutes, then insert it into a plastic vial, break off the perforated handle then cap the vial.


Call me anyway. 903-853-0609


Grady

John Whitney

Hi Tim, Would you please move John Whitney married to Adaline Mosher to the unconnected section. He is not the son of Nathaniel and Clarissa Hoar Whitney. He could be related to them but not as a son. We have not connected John at this point time. Thankyou Terr

Nathaniel Whitney (1800-1838)

Tim

I have just sent a ton of family information, plus two Federal Census extracts, please delete as much as you want...the information was copied from my Coombs family data base. You said you wanted information...

Do we know anything about the Whitney's who lived in the Standish/Scarbourough/Portland area of Cumberland County, ME in the late 1700s-early 1800s? I have been trying to link my Nathaniel to this group for years with no success. I think that my Nathaniel may have been the son of the Nathaniel listed in the 1840 Federal Census living in Standish, Cumberland County, ME (page 16) as being 70 to 80 years of age and living with 1f 20-30, 1f 30-40 and 1f 60-70.

Whitney

Andrew Whitney

Hi Tim;

Thank you for your assistance. I admit that I don't have any other resources than Memoirs of Worcester County Vol. II. The author notes that there is no birth record found for Silas Whitney, yet the account seems pretty sure of the lineage. I'm curious what information leads you to dispute the record as given in this account--though in any case my lineage still seems to trace back to John Whitney of Watertown.

I'm happy to have my Whitney lineage confirmed. I've always been told that we were descended from the Whitneys, and that they made their fortune in Chicago manufacturing. This turns out to be Charles Andrew Whitney, and the Memoirs record was actually written as his biographical sketch. There is some census data available on Charles Andrew, and he may be worthy of his own page on this site, if there isn't one already.

I'm curious why you removed Charles Andrew's wife, Martha Waters, from my lineage--as written in the Memoirs book.

Brendan

Andrew Whitney

Tim,

Thanks for the note about Crane's identification. There are several reasons why I disbelieve what is written there. First, it is one of those mug books, which are notoriously inaccurate. Secondly, the list of Silas's children is very incomplete, as is data about Silas himself, not even including his wife's maiden name or their marriage record. Thirdly, Andrew was born in 1754 (according to his age at death from the church records in Princeton), four years before the marriage of Silas and Jane in 1758.

Onomastics isn't much help here. Andrew did not name a child Silas, Jane, Andrew, or Tabitha. He did name a son Elisha Dana Whitney, and Abraham had a son Elisha who probably married Abigail Dana.

So if Andrew wasn't son of Silas, who was he? There is an otherwise unaccounted-for Andrew, son of Abraham, who was, indeed, born in 1754. Thus the connection to Abraham. Abraham's family is very interesting. The children seem to have all left home and scattered.

I hope this is convincing.

Robert - Talk to me 11:47, 28 May 2010 (CDT)

Nathaniel Whitney 1800-1830

Tim

The only source that I have for the date of marriage for Nathaniel Whitney & Charlotte Cook is that it is contained in a hand-written family genealogy chart prepared by my grandfather, Frederick A. Coombs, prior to 1904. Since Nathaniel was his grandfather, the presumption is that it came from family papers. Sorry.

During my search this past weekend, I came up with the following two pieces of Whitney information:

1. -- The Evergreen Cemetery, City of Portland, ME contains two numbered lots in Section G (#24 & 25) in the name of David Averill with the following interments: [Name; Age; Date of Death]: Caroline W. Coombs 83 Feb. 24, 1915; L. Augustine Coombs 43 1871; Charles W. Coombs 80 Jan. 24, 1940; Charles H. Whitney 57 Sep. 16, 1885; Hannah P. Whitney 1854; J. Frederick Whitney 1870; Nattie Whitney 1854; Charlotte Whitney 1850; Nathaniel Whitney 1838

I'm not sure who all these people are or what David Averill's connection is.

2. -- I found four small undated hand-written pages of family information written by Alonzo Cook MD of Los Angeles, Calif:

"Sally Whitney mother of Charlotte Cook was a daughter of a Gary, who was sister of Ellbridge Gary, signer of Declaration of In, Vice Pres. when he died. This sister was m. in Marblehead to Grandpa Whitney a merchant of that place. He failed in business but was a very proud man so took his family & 2 slaves & moved to the wilds of Casco Maine and they 2 children -- our grandmother (Rosa's) and one more little girl we children called her big Aunt Jane.

    ***** End of page #1 *****

"Our grandmother, Sally Whitney, married Hezekiah Cooke whose father was a Scotchman and Dr. Francis Cooke a cousin of ours tells me he was descended from the Cooke of the Mayflower.

    Alonzo Cook MD
    Los Angeles, Cal.
    Member of Board Health
    ***** End of page #2 *****

"Charles H. Whitney; John d. infancy; Harriet F. Whitney; Mary Caroline Whitney; Rosa A. Whitney


Nathaniel Whitney and Charlotte Cook


Money in England thru Gerry family


Charlotte Cook's brother was Gerry Cook and her maternal grandmother was a Sally Gerry


Ephraim; Mary m. _____ Averill; Gerry -- only son Alonzo Cook; Margaret; Jane

     ***** End of page #3 *****
           

"Anne; Hezekiah; Zachariah; Daniel; Asa; Moses; Pltiah (sp?) (the last six names are contained within a bracket and labeled "doubt"


Mother


Great grandmother Gerry Whitney lived and died in Casco @ 103-12-20 & was blind several years"

     ***** End of page #4 ***** 


I hope that this is of use to you.

Whitney

Thanks for the greeting

Thanks for the greeting. So I'll do the data entry but slowly. Today I'm augmenting my John Smith Whitney family group with your information. Had quite an eventful day yesterday with the descendants of George Washington Whitney. Because one grandchild was named Rinaldo I was able to string together some events that read like a plot proposal for a soap opera. I posted the story on my Ancestry.com entry.

What do you make of this record Tim?


1860 United States Federal Census about Richard Whitney Name: Richard Whitney Age in 1860: 35 Birth Year: abt 1825 Birthplace: New York Home in 1860: Ruddell, Independence, Arkansas Gender: Male Post Office: Batesville Value of real estate: View image Household Members: Name Age John Micheal 20 Sidney Vaughn 25 Richard Whitney 35 Nancey Whitney 32 Marcy A Whitney 7 William Whitney 6 Joseph Whitney 4 Amanda E Whitney 2 Marcy A Wilson 30 George A Wilson 1 Hiram Morris 35 Elander J Morris 28 John B Morris 11 Hiram Morris 7 Artemis J Morris 5 Paul Morris 2 Peter Morris 3/12


It's the only record I find of Whitney's with Moriss'es... This Richard Whitney surely must fit in the Wade Whitney connection somehow...

Thanks for the welcome

Tim, thanks very much for the welcome and for adding in the links to my Whitney lineage. I admit I haven't researched them as extensively as other branches in my family, but am now motivated to do more in hopes of contributing back to this resource. Best, Sara.

I have created 4 or 5 pages now the first of which have shown up as links in my ancestral line. I'm proud to be able to contribute. I notice that many older pages have each fact documented in footnotes. I would be glad to do that for my pages but don't know how. Do you have instructions for that and a style sheet for various types of entries? Also, I'm guessing you add the census data that appears at the bottom of some pages. If not, how would I add that? About to start on John Franklin Whitney after I get a bit of breakfast.

thankyou and see below

Did you receive my message about dna for your families and robert L Whitney? Terry

Elijah Whitneys

Tim,

Your connection of the two Elijah Whitney family groups makes a lot of sense. Of course, if there is confusion in Phoenix, it is because his informants provided that information, and they were living many years after the events in question. Actually, it is surprising to me that we haven't found more inaccuracies in what is presented there. Compare to Pierce's accuracy record!

I would suggest going ahead with the merging of the two pages, with appropriate discussion in a Notes section.

Now that creates another issue: Hannah (Whitney)(Bass) Whitney now is a person a generation older than we previously thought. Can we tentatively identify her and/or her Bass husband with that new age information?

Robert - Talk to me 12:09, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Elijah Whitneys, pt. 2

Tim,

See Family:Whitney, Elijah (1710-b1741) for Rebecca (Seymour)(Whitney) Boughton. I suggest that the Seth whose administration was granted in 1760 was another child of this couple, who died unmarried and without issue, and after whom the younger Seth was named. That would make Seth's administrator his brother, an entirely reasonable situation.

Robert - Talk to me 13:12, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Change of name, Reuben to Stephen Whitney

Because of the latest information of Ruth Boody as wife of Stephen Whitney as found in the "Early families of Limington, Maine" and the incomplete findings of Mrs Frank S. Healey )Eleanor Katherine Whitney, Filed in the Detroit Society of Genealogical Research, a descendant of Remington Hobby Whitney and his first wife Eliza Weaver, daughter of Daniel Wing and Amy (Underhill) Weaver. It is my belief, that Stephen and wife Ruth Boody are the parents of Crosby Whitney, Remington Hobby Whitney, Robert B. Whitney, Nathan W. Whitney, Peter Whitney, above born in Maine, Jane Whitney,b in Conn. Henry Whitney b unk. , Mary Whitney b. New York, Sally Ann Whitney b. New York.

   From the book "Early Families of Limington, Maine" by Robert L. Taylor under the name of

Boody Rev. Robert then child viii is Ruth b. 13 June 1779 at New Durham, NH and married 26 Jan 1800 to Stephen Whitney both of Limington " They moved to Painted Post, Stuben Co., New York. Painted Post is 40 miles south of my to be 3rd great grandmother, Mary Carman. Mary Carman is also related to Amy Underhill, Mary Carman marries Crosby Whitney abt. 1821. Remington Hobby Whitney is found in 1830 Census at Sodius, Wayne Co., New York.

   I believe that the printing of Hardin Co., Iowa History book printed 1911 has many mistakes

and that when my 2nd great grandfather George Whitney b. 12 Sept 1822 in New York, told his story, there was a clerical error, when the name was listed as Reuben and Ruth it should have been Stephen . This stands to reason as others beside myself have never been able to find a Reuben in or from Maine that fit the time factors.

Change of (DNA) #37765 of Reuben to Stephen Whitney

  Because of recent findings I am asking you to change my family line to 

living, Earl E., Herman G., Crosby, George, Crosby, Stephen, Phineas, Isaac, Nathaniel, Benjamin, John, Thomas Whitney.

Possible Identification

Tim,

Check out these two pages: Family:Whitney, Elijah (b1750-a1782) and Family:Whitney, Ebenezer (c1747-a1800). The children of both include brothers Ebenezer and Samuel, and half-brothers Elijah and Joseph. My suspicion is that there was no Elijah, and Ebenezer was the father of the children listed on his page.

Thoughts?

Robert - Talk to me 01:53, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Greetings Tim Doyle:

I am Bruce T. Whitney, I have been doing Whitney research on my family tree since the 1960's. I've got a wealth of information and completed family lineages for Horace B. Whitney through to my children. Horace who married Lucetta Frazier 1828. I've got Lucetta's family bible page that tell of his birth and more importantly his death. I've got full history of his family onward.... I'd love to share this as I have had a grand time discovering the history of Horace back to Thomas 1550 and have read with great interest the story of possible links back to 1225

I can be contacted via email: [email protected] I can put my info on a disc. from Horace B onward.... and I can combine it with the WRG material if you'd like.

thanks for your time and consideration

In searching, Bruce Thomas Whitney (1955)

Tim, I'm not sure who I need to talk to about this but I am in the midst of a fued with people in England that had a meeting July, 2008 about the Bayeux Tapestry and the image being Turstin FitzRolf in the scene 55. There is a new book coming out that has changed thet figure to Robert, Williams 1/2 brother. I have written to a few people about this and find it is too late to change the book as it is already set type and being printed by Oxbow, Oxford. If you can help me, please email me [email protected]. I have more information but I need to know where to go with this.

Thank you

Mary

Warning and Danger

Tim,

The file Template:Warning is not working properly. Possibly it is because of the hard-coding of the IP address in the URL for Danger.jpg, but I am just guessing.

Robert - Talk to me 17:45, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Another Issue

Tim,

The page Whitney Family Groups has an issue near the bottom under Australia.

Robert - Talk to me 09:26, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

George Orrett Whitney

Hi Tim I am interested in the compositions of G O Whitney. Do you know whether there are any surviving descendants? best wishes from Roz Trubger [email protected]

Tim,

I know you haven't heard from me for a while, but the real reason is I am pretty much caught up on all my family, except of course the tie to John Whitney's father and mother. I just wanted you to know that my wife and I are going to do the DNA test next month and was going to ask what the best test for our money is. Also, I want to commend the whole WRG on the help they have given to the many projects that have been done, thanks to your hard work. Thank you and thank you and thank you again. I have been watching you know. I am a school bus driver now in our (!gulp) old age. That hurts.

Thanks,

Arv Whitney

Discussion Forums

Tim,

Are the Discussion Forums dead? If so, what happened to all the messages posted there?

Robert - Talk to me 08:48, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Horace Burnham Whitney

Mr. Doyle:

I have information of the Horace Burnham Whitney family, and have done extensive research into this direct line. I have the family information for his line up to the present.

Horace Burnham Whitney was born 9-13-1806 in Lansingburg, NY and died 9-21-1831 aged 25 years and 8 days by drowning in the Mississippi River, 40 miles upriver from Fort Armstrong. According to Lucetta (Frazier) Whitney, his wife's, hand written notation in the family bible. I have a photo copy of the page notation.

I also have the children of his son Horace Burnham Whitney's family listing following the line through to myself, going through Layfayette, Clyde, Thomas and myself Bruce. Taken from census, gravestones, Adams and Hancock Co. ILL records, as well as birth, death and marriage certificates, family notes, bibles and accounts.

Thank you.

Ephraim Bennett Whitney

Do you have any information on Ephraim Bennett Whitney?

New Main Heading?

Tim,

We have several pages which are similar, but probably don't fit well under any of our current main headings under Archives: (Extracts, Court Records, Tax Records, Land Records, etc.). I found:

Perhaps there are others, too.

Would these perhaps fit into some new main heading, or an existing one? Then we could give them some decent breadcrumbs.

Robert - Talk to me 00:51, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

New Main Heading, II

Tim,

How about "Collections" or "Repositories" for the new main heading (as above)?

Robert - Talk to me 12:51, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Inserting an Image into a Pierce Page

Tim,

I have been having trouble inserting an image into a Pierce page. Apparently just putting [[File:Name.jpg|thumb|right|<p class="Plaintext" align=center>Caption.</p>]] is not enough. When I tried that, it shifted all the text at the left out of Pierce-text mode and back into the basic mode. I also tried using a table, even an HTML table, and put the text in the left part and the image in the right part, but the text was still in basic mode, even if I tried <p id="Pierce-text> or <p class="Plaintext"> inside the left-hand part where the text is.

Should we just put a link from the string "[Photo]" to the file with the image in it? I don't like this kind of "solution", but I can't see what else to do.

Is this issue related to the one with a table in which the plaintext has different sizes in different cells?

Thoughts?

Robert - Talk to me 13:01, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Breadcrumbs

Tim,

I created "Archive:Repositories" and populated it, then created breadcrumbs for those pages linked from it. That leaves just seven pages without proper breadcrumbs. I am baffled what to do with them:

Suggestions?

Robert - Talk to me 15:20, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Missing Image from Pierce

Tim,

I just went through the list of images scanned from Pierce and uploaded. There is one missing. It should be named

File:J. L. Whitney, Pierce, p. 275.jpg

Can you get your source for the other images to provide this one, too? If not, the one in my reprint is actually of fair quality, and could serve.

The odd thing is that it is not included in the List of Illustrations on page 7 of Pierce! Furthermore, it is not clear of whom this is a picture. Possibly it is of James Lewis Whitney, #1984, on p. 279, although the data included there for him is very sparse.

This is the strangest error in Pierce I have seen yet, and that's saying something!

Robert - Talk to me 15:38, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Category:Vital Records

Tim,

Today I stumbled on Category:Vital Records. Obviously it hasn't been used for the purpose for which you created it. Should we just get rid of it (my preference), or should we spread it onto all vital records pages?

Robert - Talk to me 15:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

DNA Testing

Tim, I was looking at that section earlier this week and considering this option. Not sure i fully understand the "my talk" function, but will try contacting Whitney Keen (whitldna) about the next step.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Brad --Bradrockwood 20:50, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

DNA Testing II

Tim,

Is Whitney Keen still cordinating testing? I left a "my talk" message a week ago or do I just contact FamilyTreeDNA directly for a test kit?

Brad

--Bradrockwood 20:45, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Bot Task

Tim,

There are many, many links to the NEHGS website. Unfortunately, the URL for that has changed from "www.newenglandancestors.org" to "www.americanancestors.org". Please write and run a bot to make this change everywhere.

- Robert Ward - Talk to me 20:40, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

New Page for Mother

hey tim i made a new family page for my mother, could you please delete the old one: Mayer, Beverly Jeanette (?-?)

thanks. i texted you last night about our articles -- i see you got lots of work on this site to keep you busy!! LOL.

i'm crazy busy at work today.

talk soon!!!

A

Clinton Russell Whitney, etc.

Hi, I don't have much information about the Whitney family, just what I think is correct. My uncles name is Jimmie Whitney or James and he was born in the 1920s or 30s. Someone wrote me on ansestory and said his name is James Evander Whitney. It was confirmed, she and her husband knew him as kids. They spoke on the phone. She knew all the Whitney brothers. But he couldn't have been born in the 1800s hes still alive. My grandfather was Everett I believe, he was married to Gladys Doucette. He owned an auto body shop with my father Clinton until my dad went to the Army. I would like to know any information family history, but I'm also really trying to find my mother. Stella L. White-Whitney married to Clinton Russell Whitney about 1958. My other uncles were Evie or Everett, and Richard Whitney they both are deseased.

Thank-You,

Shirleywhitney

Anna Whitney brickwall BUSTED !!! (a 5 yr effort)

Tim, I haven't talked to you in about 2 years. In that time I have visited the LDS Library in Salt Lake City twice and the last trip, in August, I discovered Anna Whitney's parents - ya gotta love Probate Records! She is the daughter of Joshua Whitney (b. Dec 23, 1757 in Willington, CT; d. May 18, 1797 Belchertown, MA) and Dorothy Knowlton of Belchertown, MA. I also found in the record a complete listing of their other children. I also found the probate records for Benjamin Whitney (Willington, CT and Belchertown, MA) who is the father of Joshua. I would like your recommendations on how best to get all this information loaded into the WRG site. I am looking to do much more on this effort in the coming winter months. I can enter the information as I did before with the sources identified and hopefully you are able to adjust any mistakes. I haven't "published" any of this information yet but I am in the process of creating a website using TNG (another learning experience!). I really want to get this on the WRG site first since it has been extremely helpful in my search. Thanks, Doug Wood

Re: Your DNA Results

Tim,

Thanks for the words of encouragement. I hadn’t really considered an immigrant from a later date angle. I’ll keep looking, perhaps not as intensely for a while, but I’ll keep looking. After all, we Whitney’s don’t give up!

I assume if I checked all the boxes correctly on FamilyTreeDNA.com, someone will be receiving a copy of my results and posting them. If they don’t get a copy, we can work out an alternate arrangement of sending in the results.

Thanks again!

Brad - my talk

Immigrant Research

Tim,

I’ve been thinking more about what you said about immigrants other than the well-known families being a possible source for my family. I don’t know why I didn’t think of that; guess I still have a lot to learn about genealogy. For all I really know, Daniel could be the immigrant himself despite what his bible record says except there isn't a Daniel in the list.

Can you provide some guidance on how to go about such research? I’ve looked over the various lists, but noticed there are no links to family pages. Does this mean we don’t know anything about them or that there just isn’t a link? I guess I haven’t looked at enough family pages to know if some include immigration records.

Thoughts?

Brad - my talk

Jason Frost Whitney and my grandmother Mary Winona Whitney

I'm sorry...but I just can't seem to catch on to the methods of adding onto my line on here.

It would the same for me (with Jason and Mary) as Durrell has. Can you copy the info on my line for me.

I'm afraid my technology genealogy days or pretty much over. Thanks...Tricia

Found Baby Book on some Whitneys

Eunice Douette is my Great Grandmother J Douette is my Great Grandfather (I thought Doucette had a C in it?

Gladys Marie Douette is my Grandmother
Clinton Russell Whitney is my Father

Carre Johnson is my Great Grandmother James Whitney is my Great Grandfather

Grandfather is Everett Whitney
Father is Clinton Russell Whitney

Warning Template

Tim,

Please fix the Warning! template. The graphic is missing.

- Robert Ward - Talk to me 07:39, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

original deed to Shadrack Whitney

hello MY name is Alfred Tambling and i have the original deed that shows that Jereniah Ball sold a lott of land to your ancestor Shadrack Whitny.The deed is from 1739 and the town is townshend Mass and written in the old English.this document is in remarkable condition for being almost 300 years old.It was sold to him for the price of twenty pounds and still refers to the king as the owner of the said providence.So if there is anyinterest in this you may reach me at 802-885-5177 thanks so much for your time Alfred

Getting in Touch

You seem to be the source by which I've come across a certain Kiko Whitney. I am the brother of Kiko's biological mother and perhaps he may be interested in finding out more about her. I've left a message in the User talk and had sent an email. To date I have not received any notice. Is there any other way to communicate with Kiko? Thanks

Richard James Whitney

Discussion Forums, II

Tim,

The "Discussion Forums" link in the navigation box leads to a page called "Discussion Forum Index". From there, I find four links to pages which are not working any more. I suggest deleting the latter page and removing the former link, at least until the forum pages are working again.

- Robert Ward - Talk to me 11:54, 5 February 2013 (CST)

Hi Tim:

I received DYS#1-37 for my father last year, but they have not been recorded on the site. A relative has inquired about them so I want to make them available to her. Thanks for all you do to enlighten us regarding our ancestry.

Lorraine B.

Canada census at Ancestry.com

Hi Tim - It's been a long time since I've visited WRG. I, of course, am still looking for family before my William! I have recently concluded a volunteer project that took up a good bit of my time...so now I'm looking for a new project. I see on the to do census list - 1851 Canada at Ancestry.com (World Membership required)along with additional future years. I'm not sure what the World Membership provides but working at West Virginia University I have access to Ancestry.com and, therefore, Canadian census records for 1851, 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 and 1911. I'm wondering if this will provide the information needed? I think there are 780 Whitney's listed in the 1911 census.

I saw on your facebook page that Whitney Keen has spent 10 years working on the DNA project. Has anyone ever made a connection with the DNA results?

I really like your facebook pictures of Dallas. One of my bucket list wishes is to live in a big city...I love NYC but it's a little out of my price range. I want to get up in the morning, head for the neighborhood deli for breakfast and to read the newspaper, stop at the local grocer for one days food and use public transportation daily rather than driving myself. I grew up in a very small town - 11 in my graduating class - friends and family think I've lost my mind.

When you get a chance let me know about the Canada census. Thanks.

CWC

Canada census at Ancestry.com

Hi Tim - It's been a long time since I've visited WRG. I, of course, am still looking for family before my William! I have recently concluded a volunteer project that took up a good bit of my time...so now I'm looking for a new project. I see on the to do census list - 1851 Canada at Ancestry.com (World Membership required)along with additional future years. I'm not sure what the World Membership provides but working at West Virginia University I have access to Ancestry.com and, therefore, Canadian census records for 1851, 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 and 1911. I'm wondering if this will provide the information needed? I think there are 780 Whitney's listed in the 1911 census.

I saw on your facebook page that Whitney Keen has spent 10 years working on the DNA project. Has anyone ever made a connection with the DNA results?

I really like your facebook pictures of Dallas. One of my bucket list wishes is to live in a big city...I love NYC but it's a little out of my price range. I want to get up in the morning, head for the neighborhood deli for breakfast and to read the newspaper, stop at the local grocer for one days food and use public transportation daily rather than driving myself. I grew up in a very small town - 11 in my graduating class - friends and family think I've lost my mind.

When you get a chance let me know about the Canada census. Thanks.

CWC

Whitney Photo #177

What happened to Whitney Photo #177 (of my maternal grandfather, Frank. L. Whitney)? I posted it a few years ago and it has appeared until recently. All I seem to access is the copy that accompanied it.

Whitney Photo #177

What happened to Whitney Photo #177 (of my maternal grandfather, Frank. L. Whitney)? I posted it a few years ago and it has appeared until recently. All I seem to access is the copy that accompanied it.

Hi Tim

Have been off line .... getting back into it see the site nice to know it's still here. How is the DNA research going?

Birthdate?????

Hi Tom,

      I was working on my file to add in some more information and came across a problem for Phineas W. Whitney ( son f Phineas and Hannah).

I am finding a few different birth dates in records as well as Christning dates.

One is May 7, 1844 the other is June 14, 1843, both have listed as parents:Phineas Whitney and mother Hannah, also both are for Portland, Maine.

Can you offer any help.


     Thank you

How to find Gen Tree on WRG?

Dear Tim:

 I'm finally trying to report in on my father, Raymond Lloyd Whitney, and mother, Jane McMicken Whitney, and their 3 daughters (I'm the oldest living here in Frisco, TX).  Way back when, you and Robert assigned me a username to login.  At that time, I saw a Genealogy Tree from the descendants of John Whitney.  How do I find that again?
 Nancy Whitney Doxey

Cemetery Photos of Fischer Whitney (1775-1805)

Hi Tim, I recently visited the gravesite of Fischer Whitney at the West River Cemetery, Yates County, New York, I have some photos of his gravestone that I would like to put on this website. I am not sure how to do it or who to send the photos to. Can you help me out with this?

Many years ago I sent some photos of James Watkins Whitney gravesite in Quasqueton, IA but I don't remember how I did it.

Thanks, my email address is below.

Chris Whitney (Whitnet2950) [email protected]