Mailing List Discussions, October 1998
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Jump to navigationJump to searchDate: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 12:18:19 -0700 From: Marcia <[email protected]> Subject: Whitney home in England To: [email protected] I am about to make my first-ever trip to the British Isles. What known WHITNEY residential area can I rely on (accuracy), for sentiment's sake, now that all those early reports on John's background have been disproved? From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 06:16:10 EDT Subject: timeoff....... To: [email protected] I need the month of Oct off the list please ,will contact you when I get back,Thankyou,.. Hope [email protected] From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:48:25 -0400 Subject: Lookups offered... To: [email protected] Ok, at the risk of being flooded, I am off to the VT records office in Middlesex on Mon. I have 3 things on my agenda, in the following order: All Todriff vitals, track down my Dutelles, then track down my Whitneys. I estimate I'll get to the Whitney's after lunch :). While I am in the Whitney index, if I get that far, it will be easy to jot down individuals I see along the way that other Whitney researchers might be looking for. I will copy out the info in the index and send it back if I find something. If you want a certified copy, I'll send details for ordering it ($7) from the records office. So, if I am not too blearyeyed and get to the W's, and you have specific individual(s),please send me (and on one line for each person in this order so I can cut and paste a master list to take with me): First/middle name, b.d., b.p., d.d, d.p., spouse, m.d, m.p. your email address (use a 2nd line in parenthesis to add important details) here's an example: Carleton Delano, ~1889, Rochester, ??,Eva Fletcher Chapin, ?? [email protected] (Father was James B. according to 1900 census. 1920 census reports him 10 years older b. ~1881!) Following this format will make it easy for me to compile a list to take with me for quick reference. And I only have a tiny amount of time on Sunday before I leave to get it together. So send those requests in so I get them by lunchtime on Sunday. Here's hoping I find all our VT Whitneys. -Denise Cross Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 10:11:01 -0700 From: Paul & Brenda Nichols <[email protected]> Subject: WHITNEY BURIALS WORCESTER To: [email protected] Hi all. The Wilkins cemetery on this Worcester Cty ftp site has quite a few Whitneys. ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ma/worcester/towns/sutton/cemetery/ Paul Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 10:40:49 -0700 From: Paul & Brenda Nichols <[email protected]> Subject: WESTFIELD WHITNEYS To: [email protected] Hi. From the 1790 Westfield, Ma census: Whitney, Dr Paul | 1 4 | 2 | . . | Whitney, Maj Abel | 1 2 | 5 | . . | Paul of San Diego Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 18:38:10 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Whitney To: [email protected] At 12:00 PM 10/2/98 -0600, you wrote: >Have you come across the name Caspar Whitney an author of a book On >Snow-Shoes to the Barren Grounds, Harper press 1896? I thing he was a >big game hunter also. >Bob I have never heard of him, but I will CC this to the WHITNEY mailing list and see if anyone else has. Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 18:52:30 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: WESTFIELD WHITNEYS To: [email protected] At 10:40 AM 10/2/98 -0700, Paul & Brenda Nichols wrote: >Hi. > > From the 1790 Westfield, Ma census: > >Whitney, Dr Paul | 1 4 | 2 | . . | >Whitney, Maj Abel | 1 2 | 5 | . . | > > Paul of San Diego Dr. Paul-6 WHITNEYand Maj. Abel-6 WHITNEY, sons of Aaron-5 and Alice (BAKER) WHITNEY [Moses-4, Moses-3, Richard-2, John-1]. See: <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/john/john23.html#i369> (and #i374) Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 22:35:37 -0700 From: Paul & Brenda Nichols <[email protected]> Subject: M. E. GLIDDEN, b ABT 1854 To: [email protected] Hi all. Looking for my wifes gg grandmother, MARY ELLA GLIDDEN, reportedly born about 1854 in Me, m DARIUS THOMAS WHITNEY, b 1842 N.Y. Thanks for any assistance. Paul of San Diego Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 20:48:58 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Joel Whitney To: [email protected] At 08:37 PM 10/6/98 -0400, you wrote: >I recently was asked to search my mother's family and ran into a dead end >with a Joel Whitney was born about 1791 and died in Enosburg Falls VT on >1852. He married a Lucy Sheldon. They had at least one child, Clark G. >Whitney also of Enosburg Falls who in turn had a son named Joel. >I am a novice at this but ran across your listings for the Whitney Family. >Can you point me in the right direction or offer any suggestions? >Thanks, >Whit Minkler >[email protected] >Fax 703/821-3191 I have no record of this Joel WHITNEY. I will post this response to the mailing list WHITNEY-L, and we'll see if anyone on the list can help. If you like, I can also post a query on my Whitney Query web page <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/queries.html>. Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 16:04:55 -0500 From: Colleen Knights <[email protected]> Subject: Internet Library of Early Journals To: [email protected] I think you will find this an interesting site which was brought to my attention by a cousin in Australia. It has search capabilities and I came up with 57 hits for Whitney - exact spelling in just one journal. http://www.bodley.ox.ac.uk/ilej/ Internet Library of Early Journals, A digital library of 18th and 19th Century journals Colleen Knights Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 18:10:04 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: George Addison Whitney To: [email protected] At 05:49 AM 10/7/98 -0400, "Janet Duffield" <[email protected]> wrote: >I am looking for the parents of George Addison Whitney, born in Waukesha, Wisconsin in Sept 4, 1854. > >Attachment Converted: "C:\EUDORA\ATTACH\GeorgeAd.htm" Please set your mail program not to send the HTML file as indicated in the last line above. Plain ASCII text is best for e-mail. I do not know the parents of your George Addison WHITNEY. I will post this to the WHITNEY-L mailing list to see if any of those reading it can help you with this problem. If you like, I can post a query on my WHITNEY Queries page <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/queries.html>. Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 16:49:21 -0500 From: Ronald Whitney <[email protected]> Subject: Another John Whitney To: [email protected] Hi WRG! Does anyone have any information on a John WHITNEY, 1829-1912 buried in Brown's Valley, Travers Co., Minnesota. Also buried nearby is John WHITTNEY, 1830-1912 and Olive WHITTNEY, 1829-1918. I'm not sure why the extra T is used. We would like to hear from anyone with information. Negative replies aren't necessary. Ron and Roxie Whitney <[email protected]> Alternate e-mail address <[email protected]> Home page:<http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/2212/> "Remember to live every day of your life." Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 20:37:02 -0600 From: Lee Smith <[email protected]> Subject: Amelia M. Whitney, relatives To: [email protected] Hello, After several months of reading through the WHITNEY, list, I am still no further along. I am looking for information on Amelia M. Whitney, married first to J. E. Smith, abt 1849, in Amite County, Ms. Secondly she was married to Charles Haynes McLain, in 1852. Also Amite county. She would have been born some time mid 1820's, but know nothing of her parents or sibblings. Any help here would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, LeeAnn James Smith Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:07:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Barry Whitney <[email protected]> Subject: TOP 10 INDICATORS THAT YOU'VE BECOME A GENE-AHOLIC (fwd) To: [email protected] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:31:24 EDT From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: TOP 10 INDICATORS THAT YOU'VE BECOME A GENE-AHOLIC HUMOR. Thanks to G. Martin <[email protected]> (and others) for sending the following "Top 10" list, author unknown. TOP 10 INDICATORS THAT YOU'VE BECOME A GENE-AHOLIC 10. You introduce your daughter as your descendent. 9. You've never met any of the people you send e-mail to, even though you're related. 8. You can recite your lineage back eight generations, but can't remember your nephew's name. 7. You have more photographs of dead people than living ones. 6. You've ever taken a tape recorder and/or notebook to a family reunion. 5. You've not only read the latest GEDCOM standard, but also you understand it. 4. The local genealogy society borrows books from you. 3. The only film you've seen in the last year was the 1880 census index. 2. More than half of your CD collection is made up of marriage records or pedigrees. 1. Your elusive ancestor has been spotted in more different places than Elvis! Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 10:09:55 -0700 From: Marcia <[email protected]> Subject: for all to enjoy To: [email protected] TOP 10 INDICATORS THAT YOU'VE BECOME A GENE-AHOLIC 10. You introduce your daughter as your descendent. 9. You've never met any of the people you send e-mail to, even though you're related. 8. You can recite your lineage back eight generations, but can't remember your nephew's name. 7. You have more photographs of dead people than living ones. 6. You've taken a tape recorder and/or notebook to a family reunion. 5. You've not only read the latest GEDCOM standard, but also you understand it. 4. The local genealogy society borrows books from you. 3. The only film you've seen in the last year was the 1880 census index. 2. More than half of your CD collection is made up of marriage records or pedigrees. 1. Your elusive ancestor has been spotted in more different places than Elvis! (author unknown) ------ You Know You're Taking Genealogy Too Seriously If : *In order to put the "final touches" on your genealogical research, you've asked all of your closest relatives to provide DNA samples. *You are the only person to show up at the cemetery research party with a shovel. *You were instrumental in having "non-genealogical use of the genealogy room copy machine" classified as a federal hate crime. *You plod merrily along "refining" your recently published family history, blissfully unaware that the number of errata pages now far exceeds the number of pages in your original publication. *The most recent document in your "Missing Ancestors" file is a 36-page contract between you and Johnson Billboard Advertising Company. *Ed McMahon, several t.v. cameras and an envelope from Publishers Clearing House arrive at your front door on Super Bowl Sunday, and the first thing you say is, "Are you related to the McMahons of Ohio?" *"A Loving Family" and "Financial Security" have moved up to second and third, respectively, on your list of life's goals, but still lag far behind "Owning My Own Microfilm Reader." *A magical genie appears and agrees to grant your any one wish, and you ask that the 1890 census be restored. From: "sheila peel" <[email protected]> Subject: Fw: Whitney Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:13:47 -0400 To: [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: sheila peel <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, October 08, 1998 7:08 PM Subject: Re: Whitney >You wrote: >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 7:56 PM >Subject: Whitney > > >>Good evening Shelia I am looking for Mantle Whitney who was b in NY around >>1863. I have no idea where . He married Mary Fuller and they had five sons. >>One of which was a Lewis E Whitney born in Pa in 1892. Being you have a >Lewis >>you were looking for I was wondering if there might be a connection...Mary > > >Mary, >I don't know of one but I will send your email onto the Whitney group. >Someone should be able to help. >Sheila >[email protected] > From: [email protected] (Norris) Subject: Asa Whitney - b 1791, Inventor Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 07:43:49 GMT To: [email protected] Hi: I found this bio tonight and don't seem to find him in the Whitney data base at the Whitney page. Can anyone fit him in somewhere?? The Twentieth Century Biographical Dictionary of Notable Americans: Volume X W Whitney, Eli "WHITNEY, Asa, inventor, was born in Townsend, Mass., Dec. 1, 1791. His father was a blacksmith, and Asa followed that trade until 1812, when he removed to New Hampshire and was employed in a machine shop. He was sent to Brownsville, N.Y., to fit up a cotton mill; conducted a machine shop in Brownsville till 1830; was assistant superintendent of the Mohawk and Hudson railway, 1830-39, and canal commissioner in enlarging and managing the Erie canal, 1839-42. He was a partner with Matthew W. Baldwin in the Baldwin locomotive worksin Philadelphia, 1852-54; was chosen president of the Morris canal company in 1854, and constructed the steam incline planes used on the canal. He invented the corrugated plate car wheel, in 1847, and began its manufacture in partnership with his son, George Whitney. In 1848 be invented a process for annealing car wheels, that increased both their speed and capacity This invention gained him a fortune and about 75,000 car wheels were annually manufactured by A. Whitney & Sons. He was president of the Reading railroad, 1860-61, resigning in 1861, on account of failing health. By his will he gave $50,000 to found the chair of dynamical engineering in the University of Pennsylvania; $12,500 to the Franklin Institute, and $20,000 to the Old Men's home, Philadelphia. He died in Philadelphia, Pa., June 4, 1874." _______________ Thanks for your support Norris Taylor -- Silver Bullet <[email protected]> Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html --------------------------------------- From: "Glenn Barnett" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Whitney info Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:37:16 -0500 To: [email protected] ---------- > From: Glenn Barnett <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Whitney info > Date: Friday, October 09, 1998 1:27 PM > > Looking for info on the following Whitney family members. > > Levi Whitney, son of Abel Whitney and Thankful Morton. Levi b 1779 and > married Happy Higgins 1802. > Poss. from Standish, ME > > Obediah Whitney, son of Levi and Happy. b 1809 and married Louise Bangs > 1836. > Poss. from Standish, ME > > Isaac Whitney, son of Obediah and Louise. b 1841 and married to Libby > Varney 1867. > Poss. from Windham, ME > > Willis Whitney, son of Isaac and Libby. b 1869 and married Ida Stevens > 1893. > Poss. from Deering, ME > > Thank you, > Sharon Barnett > Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 18:39:17 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Whitney info To: [email protected] At 01:37 PM 10/9/98 -0500, you wrote: > > >---------- >> From: Glenn Barnett <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Whitney info >> Date: Friday, October 09, 1998 1:27 PM >> >> Looking for info on the following Whitney family members. >> >> Levi Whitney, son of Abel Whitney and Thankful Morton. Levi b 1779 and >> married Happy Higgins 1802. >> Poss. from Standish, ME >> >> Obediah Whitney, son of Levi and Happy. b 1809 and married Louise Bangs >> 1836. >> Poss. from Standish, ME >> >> Isaac Whitney, son of Obediah and Louise. b 1841 and married to Libby >> Varney 1867. >> Poss. from Windham, ME >> >> Willis Whitney, son of Isaac and Libby. b 1869 and married Ida Stevens >> 1893. >> Poss. from Deering, ME >> >> Thank you, >> Sharon Barnett For Levi-6 WHITNEY (Abel-5, Nathan-4, Nathaniel-3, Benjamin-2, John-1), see: <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/john/john67.html#i427>. I know nothing about the later generations. Can you supply data on them? Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 16:21:28 -0400 From: "J. Michael Poston" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Whitney info To: [email protected] On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Glenn Barnett wrote: > > Looking for info on the following Whitney family members. > > > > Levi Whitney, son of Abel Whitney and Thankful Morton. Levi b 1779 and > > married Happy Higgins 1802. > > Poss. from Standish, ME Hugh D. McLellan, "History of Gorham, ME.," compiled and edited by his daughter Katharine B. Lewis, Smith & Sale, Printers, Portland, 1903, p. 831. gives Levi Whitney b. 18 May 1779, the son of Abel (Nathan-4, Nathaniel-3, Benjamin-2, John-1) and Thankful (Daughter of Capt. Bryant and Thankful Morton). He was born in Gorham. Levi married Happy Higgins, about 1800; lived in Standish. Mike Poston Rockville, Maryland Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 19:29:32 -0600 From: Tim Doyle <[email protected]> Subject: WHITNEY: McClure Cem., Broome Co., NY To: [email protected] I found the following three sets of Whitneys on the webpage for the McClure Cemetery of Broome Co. NY (http://www.rootsweb.com/~nybroome/brmcclr.htm): WHITNEY, Elijah husb. of Polly Whitney 10 May 1870 aged 80 yrs. 1 mo. 26 days WHITNEY, Polly wife of Elijah Whitney 16 Mar. 1862 aged 59 yrs. 9 m0. 6 days WHITNEY, Sibbel wife of Samuel Whitney 1 Mar. 1858 aged 88 yrs. 9 mo. 23 days BOTHRICK, Noah S. husb. of Catherine Whitney & Mary J. Conklin 24 Mar. 1903 aged 80 yrs. Bothrick WHITNEY, Catherine wife of Noah S. Bothrick 8 July 1865 aged 39 years Bothrick CONKLIN, Mary J. wife of Noah S. Bothrick 1913 born 1831 WHITNEY, Herman 29 May 1865 aged 65 years Butts, WHITNEY, Ellen S. wife of Andrew J. Butts 1912 born 1828 WHITNEY, Herman father WHITNEY, Betsey Allen mother ---------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Doyle http://www.doit.com/tdoyle/ [email protected] ftp://ftp.doit.com/pub/tdoyle/ Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 23:22:53 -0500 From: Lorne & Joan Reznowski <[email protected]> Subject: Whitneys(no subject) To: [email protected] HereHere are 2 Here are 2 books that Whitneys might enjoy. One is "Whitney Father, Whitney Whitney Heiress" by W. A. Swanberg which is about Dorothy Whitney. I came across the book in "Bookman's" second-hand book store in Tucson, Arizona. In my local library I came across "The Whitneys" from Elinor and John, l635 to l975 and it was written by Edwin P. Hoyt. Thought some of clan might enjoy these. I grew up in the Ithaca, New York area and enjoyed many hours at the Cornell student union building named after Willard Straight, Dorothy Whitney's first husband. Dorothy donated this building in his honor. Cornell also had the school of Nutrition building named after Howard Edward Babcock who is a ggg grandson of Fanny Whitney Babcock. Tanny's ggggg Grand-daughter, Mary Hershfeld, is Curator of the Cornell gardens. Her brother, Edward Hershfeld died last month in Chicago at the age of 48. He was a lawyer for the AMA. From: [email protected] Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 00:48:15 EDT Subject: Harvard VR book lookup To: [email protected] Dear WRG: Again, I think I may have found a transcription error in the Harvard VR's. Simon and Olive/Olivea (WETHERBEE) Whitney have had a number of children listed in this source, all born at intervals between 1746 and 1767, with a gap between 1761 and 1767. There is, however, a listing for a Lucy Whitney, d. of Simon and Olivea, with a birthdate given as 7 Oct 1705, and this is also how it appears in Robert Ward's listings and in his Index. I am virtually sure that this was a mistranscription for 1765, and this is further indicated by the death of a Lucy Whitney, d. of Simon and Olive, on 19 Oct 1765, just 12 days later. and would appreciate anyone who owns the Harvard VR book itself, of Xeroxed Whitney pages for the same to check this one for me. Thanx Allan E. Green From: [email protected] Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 12:26:10 -0500 Subject: Inquiry To: [email protected] In F.C. Pierce's Whitney genealogy, page 120, descendant number 626, he lists Joel Whitney (Abel4, Nathaniel3, Benjamin2, John1). Pierce lists four clildren of Joel Whitney and Mary Weston: Mary, Ephraim, Paul, and Porter. For Porter, no information is given. For Paul, he offers a birth date of 10 Jan 1785. On page 232, descendant number 1609, he shows the same Paul Whitney b. in Jonesboro, ME and married in St. Stephens, New Brunswick, Canada to Catherine Barker of New Brunswick. He says they resided in Calais, ME, and Paul died 7 Jun 1841. They had two children: Madison and Cordelia Eveline. I have a photocopy of the page registering the births of the ten children of Joel Whitney and Mary Weston from the original manuscript of the Jonesboro, ME Vital records. (It also registers the death of Joel Whitney). Paul and Porter Whitney are not registered as children born to them. I am assuming that Pierce attributed both Paul and Porter Whitney to the wrong family. Using the above information, can anyone connect them with their proper family? From: [email protected] Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 12:28:12 -0500 Subject: California Death Index To: [email protected] I am searching for a member of the group who has access to the California Death Index and would be willing to search it for the death of a Whitney descendant. Her name was Myra E. Bradley, and she was the widow of Elmer Leroy Bradley. Elmer died in San Francisco, CA 13 Mar 1953. She survived him, and was 59 years old at the time of his death. I am presuming that she also died in California. The help of anyone with access to the California Death Index will be greatly appreciated. Ken Whitney Silver Spring, MD Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:20:24 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Harvard VR book lookup To: [email protected] At 12:58 AM 10/12/98 EDT, [email protected] wrote: >Dear Gene: You wrote - > >Allan: >Harvard VR lists Lucy Whitney, d. of Simon and Olivea, b. Oct. 7, 1765. >Summary >in the History of Harvard lists the children of Simon and Olive(the "a" is >missing) Whitney. Included in that list is Lucy, b October 7, 1765. >I hope this helps. >Gene Whitney > >Thanks so much! I was sure that was the case, and the transcription was >simply in error, but wanted someone who could actually see the book itself to >confirm that. I'm copying this to Robert Ward, so he can correct it on his >Web Site. > >Many, many thanks for ensuring that our documentation is accurate. > >Allan This correction has been made. I had already corrected this in my database and in my six-generation descendants of John/Elinor compilation. Thanks for helping out, Gene, and thanks for your sharp eyes, Allan! Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:43:14 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Re Whitney surname To: [email protected] At 06:31 PM 6/26/98 -0400, e&a apt wrote: >Hi, >I am researching the Whitney surname, I am new at this and really don't >know where to start. >My grandfather was Harry Whitney born Ma. I think late 1880 married >Helen Jackman had one son Harrison( my father)born 1930 and died 1997 One >daughter Susan, Do you have anything on my Whitney family?If you have >anything that would help me get started it would be greatly appreciated. >Thank You Ruth Apt Ruth, There is a Massachusetts Birth Index, 1841-1895, available on microfiche. I found the following, looking for Harry/Harold/Henry/Harrison WHITNEY, b. in the 1880s: Vol. 37, 1881-1885, WESSON-WINSLOW: WHITNEY, Harold T., Winchester, 1885, vol. 359, p. 279. Harry E., Waltham, 1885, vol. 359, p. 262. Harry Edwin, Westborough, 1883, vol. 342, p. 393. Harry Louis, Natick, 1882, vol. 332, p. 181. Harry Otis, Cambridge, 1881, vol. 323, p. 57. Henry B., Worcester, 1883, vol. 342, p. 331. Henry Downing, Milford, 1883, vol. 342, p. 119. I cannot tell if any of these are yours. Possibly I should have been looking in Vol. 36, 38, or 39, to cover all the 1880s. Have you found your ancestor in any census record? Have you found his death certificate? Good luck in your research. If you get this line further back, we can probably be of further assistance. Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:18:03 EDT Subject: Fitchburg & Worcester Whitneys To: [email protected] I am once again asking if anyone out there is connected tp the Whitneys of Fitchburg and Worcester Mass. I am searching for information on a Arthur E Whitney born either Fitchburg or Weston Mass. Was Married to Anna or Annie C Smith. Below is what I have so far and have come to a dead end. I believe that the Ina and Stella are the same person but not sure. ARTHUR E1 WHITNEY was born in Weston or Fitchburg, Mass. He married ANNIE (ANNA) C SMITH. Children of ARTHUR WHITNEY and ANNIE SMITH are: i. ANDREW F2 WHITNEY. ii. LILLIAN WHITNEY, m. ? HARRIS. iii. CHARLES EUGENE WHITNEY, b. 1875, Fitchburg, Mass; d. October 29, 1956, Fitchburg, Mass. 2. iv. MARY L WHITNEY, b. June 13, 1878, Fitchburg, Mass; d. October 14, 1957, Fitchburg, Mass. v. STELLA WHITNEY, b. October 11, 1886, Fitchburg, Mass1; d. August 1986, Springfield, Mass1; m. ?SAMMIS. vi. INA WHITNEY, b. October 11, 1886. 3. vii. JOHN SMITH WHITNEY, b. May 24, 1889, Fitchburg, Mass; d. September 23, 1960, Worcester, Mass. viii. GRACE MYRTIE WHITNEY, b. April 25, 1893. Generation No. 2 2. MARY L2 WHITNEY (ARTHUR E1) was born June 13, 1878 in Fitchburg, Mass, and died October 14, 1957 in Fitchburg, Mass. She married H. CLARENCE EDSON. Children of MARY WHITNEY and H. EDSON are: i. PRISCILLA3 EDSON. ii. BERNICE EDSON, b. May 11, 19082; d. February 19822. 3. JOHN SMITH2 WHITNEY (ARTHUR E1) was born May 24, 1889 in Fitchburg, Mass, and died September 23, 1960 in Worcester, Mass. He married MARY ELSIE LAWRENCE December 05, 1908 in Fitchburg, Mass, daughter of WILLIAM LAWRENCE and HATTIE WRIGHT. Children of JOHN WHITNEY and MARY LAWRENCE are: i. JOHN SMITH (JR)3 WHITNEY, b. July 21, 1909; d. October 1973, Florida. ii. ELSIE MAY WHITNEY, b. March 11, 1911. iii. STELLA WHITNEY, b. February 14, 1913. 4. iv. RUTH ALICE WHITNEY, b. March 30, 1915, Worcester, Mass; d. December 22, 1987, Buffalo, New York. v. DOROTHY HAZEL WHITNEY, b. November 10, 1916, Worcester, Mass; d. February 19, 1917, Worcester, Mass. vi. BERNARD LAWRENCE WHITNEY, b. February 14, 1918, Worcester, Mass; d. October 14, 1918, Worcester, Mass. 5. vii. FRANCIS WHITNEY, b. April 28, 1921, Worcester, Mass; d. June 1976, Worcester, Mass. viii. RUBY MAE BELLE WHITNEY, b. May 18, 1922. Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:10:20 -0400 From: Steve Kraus <[email protected]> Subject: Broderbund CD's Sender: Steve Kraus <[email protected]> To: [email protected] The Parsons Tech/Broderbund catalog lists the following with their family archives cd's: U.S. Census Bundle (American, 1600-1880) Only $199.00 Is anybody familiar with this set.? Perhaps a census index (all states?) 1600 was before Plymouth Colony. Just curious, Steve Kraus [email protected] From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 00:28:05 EDT Subject: Re: Fitchburg & Worcester Whitneys To: [email protected] Dear Sir/Madam: There was an Arthur Eastman Whitney, son of Joel and Esther M. Whitney, born in Wobern, Middlesex, MA on 5 Jul 1847. See our Vital Records Index on Robert Ward's Web Site at: http://www.erols.com/rlward1/Whitney/ Since our VR's essentially stop at 1850, the only source for births after that date is the microfiche mentioned by Robert in an answer he posted earlier tonight - the Mass. Birth Index, 1841 - 1895. We seem to have no record of this Arthur Eastman Whitney in our collected database, so cannot comment on the date and place of his marriage. The town records of Fitchburg and Worcester may well have much of what you need. Perhaps you might consult the GenWeb pages for Worcester County and post a query there. They may also have volunteers listed who could look something up for you on their next visit to the courthouse or town hall. Good luck with your searches. Allan E. Green Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:52:11 -0500 From: Ronald Whitney <[email protected]> Subject: Can anyone help? To: [email protected] Hi WRG, I received the following letter from Colin Whitney in Cheshire, England. If anyone can help him, please contact him at the address below, or contact me by e-mail with the information and I will see that he gets it. "Dear Mr. Whitney, I am writing to you as I believe that you are interested in the WHITNEY's of Cheshire. This information was passed to me by a friend of mine who saw it on the Internet, but I do not have a computer as such so I thought I would write to you. I have started to do my 'family tree' on the Whitney's line. My great grandfather was born in Leftwich near Northwich Cheshire & he served his time as an apprentice sadler & harness maker in Northwich then moved to Runcorn where he met & married Ann TOMKINSON who came from Winsford, Cheshire. They married in Runcorn on 12 November 1882 & had 4 children, 2 boys & 2 girls. My grandfather William was born 29 January 1874 in Runcorn, Cheshire and worked in the chemical industry at ICI Runcorn. His brother John, born 12 April 1868 in Runcorn emigrated to America in the 1900s but I don't know where. Massachusetts has been mentioned as where he settled & I believe he owned his own shop. I've not been able to make contact with any of his family over in America so far. Hope to hear from you. Yours Sincerely Colin Whitney" Address: 37 Morval Crescent Runcorn, Cheshire WA7 2QR England Hope someone can help him. Ron and Roxie Whitney <[email protected]> Alternate e-mail address <[email protected]> Home page:<http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/2212/> "Remember to live every day of your life." Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:55:51 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: WHITNEY Extracts from the NEHGR, Part 1 To: [email protected] Dear WRG: Here is an extract of an article from the NEHGR, which may be of interest to some. ===================================================================== ======= Whitney, Joseph Cutler, "Memoir of Henry Austin Whitney, A.M.", _NEHGR_, vol. XLV (1891), pp. 175-181. "HENRY AUSTIN WHITNEY, the only son of Joseph and Elizabeth (Pratt) Whitney, as born in the house then numbered 26 Purchase Street, in Boston, Oct. 6, 1826. On his father's side he was descended from John Whitney of Isleworth, County of Middlesex, England, the progenitor of the Whitney family of northern New England, who in 1635 left his native country with his wife Elinor and five sons and made Watertown in Massachusetts his home. He lived and prospered there till his death in 1673, was a landholder and farmer, selectman from 1638 for a period of seventeen years, constable in 1641, and town clerk in 1655. Thomas in the second generation, who came from England with his father as a child, continued to live in Watertown and to hold lands there. His son Thomas successively held lands and lived in Watertown, Stow, and that part of Lancaster that afterwards became Bolton. His son Benjamin, born 1687, held lands in Marlborough. He was an energetic and enterprising man, and was active during the Indian disturbances that bore so hard on the scattered frontier settlements of New England in the early part of the eighteenth century. He died in 1737, at a time when he was making arrangements to establish himself in business, in Boston. His widow Abigail (Bridge) Whitney took up the work where he had left it, however, carried out the plans that he had formed and engaged successfully in mercantile affairs in Boston. Their son Samuel, born at Marlborough in 1734, followed his mother's example, and from 1755 was in business in Boston with a branch in Salem. When in the year 1767 the depression that preceded the revolution was felt, he moved to Concord, bought a farm, and established a store. He took an active part in the events that led to final separation from the mother country, was a member of the town Committee of Correspondence and of several other important Committees, served as a Muster Master when the town raised minute men, represented Concord in the first provincial Congress, so called, of 1774-5, and was engaged in the Concord fight. When Boston was evacuated by the British he sold his farm, returned to town, resumed business again till 1793, and then removed to the part of Massachusetts that is now Castine, Maine. His commercial ventures there proved successful, and he died there in 1808. His son Joseph was born at Concord 1771. When his parents moved to Castine he went to Newburyport, where his uncles Cutler were merchants, and found employment there. The same year he married Sally, daughter of Elijah and Susanna Collins of that town. In 1796 his only child Joseph was born, and in 1799 his wife died. He then moved to Boston, where he soon established a business that though profitable while he lived to manage it, was so injured by the embargo acts, that when he died in 1812, at the age of forty-one, his estate when settled showed nothing over outstanding obligations, and his son Joseph, Henry Austin Whitney's father, was left an orphan when sixteen years old--"without a friend in the world to whom he had a right to look for assistance and nothing to depend upon for a maintenance but his own exertions," as he expressed himself in a letter written at the time. His inheritance, however, was a keen sense of honor, a sound judgment, and an energetic temperament. Before he reached his majority he had been admitted as a partner to a business that was sufficiently lucrative to enable him each year to lay aside something for the future. By his careful management and the most strict integrity he gradually developed a business of large proportions. His sagacity enabled his firm to pass through the financial crises of 1837 and 1857, without their credit being questioned. Those were periods when many commercial houses that had been considered among the strongest were obliged to suspend payment. He was a thoughtful man, of ultivated tastes, a constant and careful reader, and was anxious that his children, of whom he had but two who lived beyond infancy, should have every educational advantage. In 1822 he married Elizabeth, the second daughter of John and Mary (Tewksbury) Pratt. She was of a happy, vivacious temperament, was a model house-keeper of the old school, and was proud and fond of her husband, as he in turn was of her. He died at Boston, Sept. 11, 1869. Henry Whitney's [footnote: He was christened Henry Augustus Whitney, but his name was changed to Henry Austin Whitney by decree of Probate Court, February, 1857.] boyhood was passed in Boston and its neighborhood, and his early education was received at private schools in Boston in winter, and in country ministers' families and boarding schools in summer. His parents moved from Purchase Street to 59 High Street in 1831, and in 1838 from there to the house now numbered 146 Tremont Street. His sister Caroline (now Mrs. Hezron Ayres Johnson of New York) was three years older than he, and consequently not so much of a companion as boy cousins, ... [Two pages of biography omitted.] ... always took deep interest. Antiquarian matters and genealogy at times absorbed his attention, and to the study of genealogy, particularly as bearing on his own family, he gave much time when a young man. His genealogical gleanings were for the most part privately printed and distributed gratuitously among those who were interested in the subjects on which he wrote, and to which his collections and compilations related. Such other writings of his as were published were in the form of occasional articles on passing events and historical matters, and were printed in periodicals or as contributions to books in the preparation of which he was interested. He also wrote many biographical notices of friends and classmates for various publications, and numerous reports and pamphlets relating to mercantile affairs and associations with which he was connected. On the 6th of February, 1856, he was elected a member of the New-England Historic Genealogical Society, and on March 11, 1858, was elected a resident member of the Massachusetts Historical Society. In the latter society he served as one of the Standing Committee in 1859-60, as one of the Committee of Publications of three volumes of "Proceedings," and as one of the Committee on Memorials of the Rebellion. In 1863 he was admitted a member of the Prince Society. The following is a list of his publications: An article entitled "The Descendants of John and Elinor Whitney of Watertown, Mass.," printed in the New-England Historical and Genealogical Register, nine and six pages, April and July, 1857. This was revised and privately reprinted the same year, under this title: "A Brief Account of the Descendants of John and Elinor Whitney of Watertown, Mass.," 100 copies, 26 pages, 8vo. He also printed privately:--"Memoranda relating to the Ancestors of Samuel Whitney and their families." This was printed in three parts. It was not intended for distribution, but as a convenient way of preserving bulky manuscript, for future reference. "Appendix to first generation," 10 copies, 17 pages, royal 4to. Oct. 1858. "Appendix to third generation," 10 copies, 12 pages, royal 4to. Nov. 1858. "Appendix to fourth generation," 20 copies, 36 pages, royal 4to. Mar. 1859. "Memoranda relating to Families of the Name of Whitney in England," 10 copies, 11 pages, royal 4to. 1859. "Family papers of William Bordman and William Lawrence." This was printed for use of the Trustees under the will of William Lawrence, and was originally intended to be merely a copy of his will, but was enlarged by the addition of genealogical statistics and other material, 6 copies, 48 pages, royal 4to. 1860. "Incidents in the Life of Samuel Whitney, together with some account of his descendants, and other Family Memorials," 100 copies, 142 pages, royal 4to. 1860. "Early Settlers of Hingham. Extracts from the Minutes of Daniel Cushing, with a Photograph of his Manuscript List; also some Account of John Cutler, one of the Early Settlers of Hingham," 24 copies, 28 pages, royal 4to. 1865. "Wills relating to the name of Whitney in Buckinghamshire and Oxfordshire, England, 1549-1603, with a pedigree," 12 copies, 23 pages, royal 4to. 1865. "A review of the Handwriting of Junius professionally investigated by Chas. Chabot, etc.," which he reprinted from the London Times and wrote a prefatory notice to, pamphlet, 1874. "The first known use of Whitney as a Surname," 50 copies, 19 pages, royal 4to. 1875. Among other work that he did may be noted "A review of Thos. Keightley's Life of Milton," 17 pages, North American Review, April, 1856. Also material that he placed at the disposal of the Rev. Henry Green for use in his "Facsimile reprint of Whitney's choice of Emblems. London, Chester, and Nantwich, 1866," for which Mr. Green makes acknowledgment. A review in the Nation, Dec. 17, 1874, of John E. Bailey's "Life of Thomas Fuller. London and Manchester, 1874." In the book Mr. Bailey makes acknowledgment of some information he communicated. He was also one of the committee that prepared the volume "In Commemoration of the one hundred and twenty-fifth Anniversary of St. Andrew's Lodge, Boston, 1887." His library was an excellent one. He became the owner of some five thousand well selected volumes and, except his Miltons, he aimed in collecting to secure books for the sake of their subject matter rather than because they were rare editions. To such historical works as were meritorious, but not of a sufficiently popular character to be pecuniarily successful, he was always a liberal subscriber. His home in Boston was at 54 Boylston Street, from the time of his marriage till 1886. In 1854 he first made Brush Hill in Milton his summer home, and always went there afterwards, except a few summers before 1864. In that year he took the house that he had previously lived in there, on a long lease, and in 1870 he became a legal resident of that town. In 1865 and subsequently he became the owner of about one hundred and fifty acres of land on and near Brush Hill, and in 1882 first occupied a large and handsome house that he had built for himself on this place. There he passed two winters previously to occupying, a few months before his death, his new city house at 261 Marlborough Street, that he had taken much pleasure in building. He was fond of his country life and the freedom it gave, and enjoyed walking and driving. He was a lover of nature and in arboriculture took much pleasure. He liked to wander among his trees, to watch their growth, to give directions about planting new or trimming old ones, and would himself lop any dead branches or offensive sprouts that he could reach. His especial care was for two chestnut trees that he, his wife, and children planted from seed a few days before the death of his eldest son. Before his own death they had grown to be tall and vigorous young trees. In the welfare of the town of Milton and in matters pertaining to it he took a lively interest. In the excellent town history written by Rev. Dr. Teele, in accordance with a vote of the town in 1884, ... ===================================================================== ======= This is of particular interest because of some of the works left behind by Henry Austin WHITNEY. It would be extremely interesting to be able to read them, wouldn't it?!?! Anyone have any ideas where some of these might be situated today? Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:51:16 EDT Subject: Levi Warren Whitney To: [email protected] Hello! My husband and I were on vacation a couple of weeks ago and we went through a town that one of my ancestors came from in CT. Hubby stopped so I could do a little research at their Historical Society. I wasn't looking for Whitney this time. But I came across one while I was looking for DIX family. Maybe this information is already known but wanted to share just in case it might help someone. This was in "History of Wethersfield" Vol. II-pages 306 and 307. Samantha (Farman) b. 2 Apl., 1816; d. 28 Feb. 1835, in N. Haven, N.Y.; m. 21 Mch., 1834, Levi Warren Whitney, who d. North Scriba, N.Y. 1 Oct., 1890. I copied it the way it was printed in the book. Bernice Hufnagle Herndon Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:05:47 -0700 From: Paul & Brenda Nichols <[email protected]> Subject: DARIUS THOMAS WHITNEY To: [email protected] Hello all. Looking for info on my wifes ggrandfather, DARIUS THOMAS WHITNEY, reportedly born in N.Y. abt 1842. Any knowledge of him out there? Thanks Paul of San Diego From: "Glenn Barnett" <[email protected]> Subject: Whitney info Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:37:36 -0500 To: [email protected] Here is a little info that I found when researching my CARR line. Taken from "The Carr family Records" Author Edson J. Carr Sarah A. Carr born in Roscoe, Illinois March 24, 1843 married Charles Whitney, in Beloit, Wisconsin Nov 1860. They reside in California. Their childrem are: Winifred Whitney b California Albert Whitney b California Jed. Whitney b California Sharon From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 04:15:12 EDT Subject: Newell Kimball Whitney and other stuff. To: [email protected] Hi all: I just joined the group a couple of days ago. Thanks to all for the insights! By way of introduction, my line of descent is: (John, John, Nathaniel, Nathaniel, Samuel, Samuel, Samuel, Newell, John, Herbert, Orlynn, and finally my mother, Barbara Whitney Jessop.) While browsing the rootsweb site, I noticed that the information on my ggg grandfather Newell is incomplete. There is some interesting history here having to do with the founding of the Mormon church. Newell Kimball Whitney was the second presiding bishop of the Mormon church and was responsible for providing for the "temporalities" ( ahem, I think that means paying the bills) of the early church. He had a daughter named Sarah who was given to Joseph Smith in one of the first rites of plural marriage when she was but a girl of 16. My gg grandfather (John Kimball Whitney b. 9/13/1831 in Kirkland Lake Ohio) is the son of Newell and Elizabeth, but Newell had several plural wives in Utah and many children. My mother has a complete record of his wives and progeny which I have asked her to send. I can post this if anyone is interested. Though I am no longer a Mormon myself, I can and do appreciate the genealogical legacy and tradition it provides. If there is a Mormon out there... perhaps you could answer a question I have re: the sealings of our Whitney line to the royal one. I would have thought that knitting a family together for "all eternity" would require unimpeachable evidence as to their relatedness. It does seem at this point, that we are not descended from the royal line, yet these sealings have taken place. At what point will they "unseal" them? Is this ever done when it is discovered that an error has been made in the genealogy??? Just curious. Anyway, whatever the origins of our genes, aren't they just Grand!!!!! Anyone in present company want to disagree? ): Regards to all Tera Johnson in Phoenix AZ From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:22:31 GMT Subject: RE: WHITNEY Extracts from the NEHGR ... To: [email protected] Robert, I was interested in your note re. Henry Austin Whitney. I have on two previous occasions sent the following note to the WRG, and on both occasions I received absolutely zilch in response! Maybe my luck is changing!! The key point to note is that HAW appeared to think that he was descended from the Whitneys of ISLIP in Oxfordshire! This clearly needs further investigation. Some time ago I wrote to a Gary Boyd Roberts at the NEHGS asking about the HAW papers. Again I received no reply! Regards John ===================================================================== Last year I had various e-mail exchanges with two John Whitney descendents - Robert Ward and Mike Roman. I occasionally visit the Boston area, and Mike suggested that next time I'm there we should visit the NEHGS together, so that I can see what they have on file there. I spent half a day at the Boston Public Library (BPL) in 1989, and had a good browse through the old Watertown maps, etc. and through various books, including one by Henry Austin Whitney, "Brief account of descendents of J & E Whitney, etc.". I ran out of time before I could visit the NEHGS, and I have not been to Boston since my exchanges with Mike. Now to the specific subject of Henry and Samuel Austin Whitney. I have a copy of the Henry Green book mentioned above, in which he includes some detail on Geoffrey Whitney's Cheshire/Hereford connections, etc., and in particular he describes how in Feb. 1866 he heard from Henry Austin Whitney of Boston who had visited Leyden in Holland a short while after Green, where he (HAW) found out about Green's forthcoming book. He goes on to mention "Mr Samuel Austin Whitney of Glassboro, New Jersey, Horatio G. Somerby, Esq. ...". SAW was HAW's nephew, if my BPL notes are correct. Perhaps Horatio G. Somerby was a genealogist ? Green and HAW corresponded, and Green gratefully acknowledges and reproduces a pedigree chart apparently compiled by SAW and later by Somerby. The chart purports to show that the 1635 JW descended from the Whitneys of ISLIP in Oxfordshire, his father being a Richard Whitney. Several Wills are quoted from, and these certainly exist; copies are located right here in the Oxford Record Office, and I have checked a couple at random. I am not sure why Somerby or Whitney thought that this John was the emigrant, although the date is OK. Can anyone (Allan?) confirm that no-one has found any evidence from the Watertown, etc. records to link John back to Westminster ? Henry Green states that HAW had printed in Boston several copies of various documents relating to his Whitney research, which Green lists in detail (see below) although he does not reproduce them all. Oddly, ALTHOUGH MELVILLE HIMSELF QUOTES from the Henry Green book, he does not refer to the Islip connection. I have no idea whether the research carried out by HAW/SAW/HGS is any more or less valid than that of Melville et al. I have seen no mention of the "Islip" research since it was carried out, and this puzzles me. I did see a mention of it at the Boston Public Library when browsing through J.J. Minot, Ancestors & Descendents of HAW, 1934. Minot states that the emigrant's father was "either Thos. W. of Lambeth Marsh, or Richard W. of Islip". Maybe he found the Islip reference in HAW's book, but I do not recall seeing it. The Whitneys of Islip [which by pure coincidence is about 5 miles from my home here near Oxford] were quite numerous in the 15th-19th centuries, and I have heard from various people both in the UK and in Australia whose ancestors lived in that area. Sometimes the name is spelt WITNEY, probably because of the town of that name about 10 miles West of Oxford [the same thing happens now!]. Another strange coincidence is that in 1879 my grandfather Edward Underwood Whitney - who lived in WESTMINSTER next to the St. Margaret's church - married Florence Aime of .... LAMBETH [it is no longer a marsh!] Here are a couple of extracts from Henry Green's 1866 book. The first is from the List of Subscribers to the book. The second is from HG's notes on the material sent to him by HAW, or printed for HAW in Boston .... (i) Henry Austin Whitney; Joseph Whitney; Henry Lawrence Whitney; Joseph Cutler Whitney; Ellerton Pratt Whitney; Miss Elizabeth Whitney; Miss Constance Whitney [all these of Boston, Mass]; Thomas Heston Whitney of Glassboro', NJ. (ii) "Received from HAW: (a) MSS copy of the Will of Geoffrey Whitney the poet, lately extracted from the original by Horatio G. Somerby; (b) Memoranda relating to families of the name Whitney in England; (c) Wills relating to the name of Whitney in Buckinghamshire & Oxfordshire, England, 1549 to 1603, with a Pedigree." "Of the Memoranda, ten copies were printed on royal 4to, pages 11, at Boston, USA, April 1859; and of the Wills twelve copies on royal 4to, pages 23, were privately printed at Boston, USA, October 10th, 1865 ...." HAW lists 16 Whitney Pedigree charts, viz: 1: W. of W. Herefordshire; 2: W. of Clifford, Herefordshire; 3: W.s of Herefordshire; 4: W. of Llandbeder, Radnor (Wales); 5: W. of Coole [Pilate], Cheshire; 6: W.s of Cheshire; 7: W. of Picton, Cheshire; 8: W. of Barthomley, Cheshire; 9: W.s of London; 10: W.s of Shropshire; 11: W. of Brook Walden, Essex; 12: W. of Surrey; 13: W. of Chinner and of Islip, Oxfordshire; 14: W. of Holt, Worcestershire; 15: W.s of various counties, viz: Bucks, Suffolk, Oxon, Norfolk, York, Warwick, Wilts, Bristol, Northants, Lincoln; 16: W. of Watertown, NE. I am curious to know whether the Austin-Whitneys' and Somerby's records of their respective researches while in England, and perhaps the pedigree charts listed below, are actually in the NEHGS archives. I recall a reference in HAW's book to the NEHG Register. By the way, the HAW book I refer to is "Brief account of the descendents of J & E Whitney, etc." pub. 1857, BPL ref. # 4432.256. From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:48:12 -0500 Subject: Myra E. Bradley To: [email protected] Thank you to Ron and Roxie Whitney and to [email protected] for the Social Security index information. I had already viewed this info, and nothing matches, for one reason or another. Thanks also to [email protected] for volunteering the look-up time on the California Death Index. I'm afraid you're right. If she doesn't appear there, she may have re-married after her husband's death. In that case, I'll have to invent Plan B. Thanks again, Ken Whitney Silver Spring, MD From: "Glenn Barnett" <[email protected]> Subject: Whitney info Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:29:43 -0500 To: [email protected] Here are a couple of other Whitney's that I have found in the book "The Carr family Records" Author was Edson I. Carr. Ormando Carr b in Salisbury NY Feb 3, 1840 married Richard E. Whitney Sept 28, 1865. He was born in Salisbury FEb 27, 1827 and died in Belvidere, Ills. Apr 20, 1887. She has been afflicted with blingness since 1883. She resides in Belvidere. Children were: Grant Carr Whitney b Feb 4, 1867 Lillie Whitney b Dec 8, 1868 and d Oct 24, 1870 Helen Amerette Thurber b in Concord NY Sept 20, 1830 married Sewell A> Whitney in Colden NY Mar 21, 1860. He died in Buffalo NY Nov 13, 1886. She died in 1892--No children Sharon Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:16:47 -0500 From: Leonard Purdy <[email protected]> Subject: vcard H-E-L-P please To: [email protected] Hi, Can anyone help me convert a vcard2.vcf attachment? Someone sent it to me and I can't open it, tho I have been able to do many other types, this one eludes me. Is this an AOL invention? Thanks in advance.. Ozzi [email protected] Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:28:13 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: RE: WHITNEY Extracts from the NEHGR ... To: [email protected] At 04:22 PM 10/14/98 GMT, you wrote: >Robert, > >I was interested in your note re. Henry Austin Whitney. I have on two >previous occasions sent the following note to the WRG, and on both >occasions I received absolutely zilch in response! Maybe my luck is >changing!! I reply to some of your points, but not all, below. >The key point to note is that HAW appeared to think that he was >descended from the Whitneys of ISLIP in Oxfordshire! This clearly >needs further investigation. You are correct, this needs further investigation. An alternate origin seems worth more study. >Some time ago I wrote to a Gary Boyd Roberts at the NEHGS asking about >the HAW papers. Again I received no reply! I cannot account for that. As a Life Member of the NEHGS, I apologize for his poor manners. >Regards > >John >==================================================================== = > >Last year I had various e-mail exchanges with two John Whitney descendents >- Robert Ward and Mike Roman. I occasionally visit the Boston area, and >Mike suggested that next time I'm there we should visit the NEHGS >together, so that I can see what they have on file there. I spent half a >day at the Boston Public Library (BPL) in 1989, and had a good browse >through the old Watertown maps, etc. and through various books, including >one by Henry Austin Whitney, "Brief account of descendents of J & E >Whitney, etc.". I ran out of time before I could visit the NEHGS, and I >have not been to Boston since my exchanges with Mike. > >Now to the specific subject of Henry and Samuel Austin Whitney. I have a >copy of the Henry Green book mentioned above, in which he includes some >detail on Geoffrey Whitney's Cheshire/Hereford connections, etc., and in >particular he describes how in Feb. 1866 he heard from Henry Austin >Whitney of Boston who had visited Leyden in Holland a short while after >Green, where he (HAW) found out about Green's forthcoming book. He goes on >to mention "Mr Samuel Austin Whitney of Glassboro, New Jersey, Horatio G. >Somerby, Esq. ...". SAW was HAW's nephew, if my BPL notes are correct. >Perhaps Horatio G. Somerby was a genealogist ? Horatio Gates Somerby was a professional genealogist and member of the NEHGS. He specialized in English origins of New England immigrants. >Green and HAW corresponded, and Green gratefully acknowledges and >reproduces a pedigree chart apparently compiled by SAW and later by >Somerby. The chart purports to show that the 1635 JW descended from the >Whitneys of ISLIP in Oxfordshire, his father being a Richard Whitney. >Several Wills are quoted from, and these certainly exist; copies are >located right here in the Oxford Record Office, and I have checked a >couple at random. I am not sure why Somerby or Whitney thought that this >John was the emigrant, although the date is OK. Do you have abstracts of any of these wills? >Can anyone (Allan?) confirm that no-one has found any evidence from the >Watertown, etc. records to link John back to Westminster ? There is nothing in Massachusetts or in the ship-list of the "Elizabeth and Ann" which would tie John-1 WHITNEY to Westminster, or indicate anything about his origins. The connection is made based on the similarity of the family makeup of John WHITNEY, son of Thomas, and John-1 WHITNEY of Watertown. Both had father named John, and sons John, Richard, and Thomas, in that order, of appropriate ages. The English family vanishes, and the American one appears. That is all the evidence there is. Even Donald Lines Jacobus in his article, "Pre-American Ancestries: John Whitney of Watertown, Mass.," expresses his dissatisfaction with the strength of this evidence. >Henry Green states that HAW had printed in Boston several copies of >various documents relating to his Whitney research, which Green lists in >detail (see below) although he does not reproduce them all. Oddly, >ALTHOUGH MELVILLE HIMSELF QUOTES from the Henry Green book, he does not >refer to the Islip connection. > >I have no idea whether the research carried out by HAW/SAW/HGS is any more >or less valid than that of Melville et al. I have seen no mention of >the "Islip" research since it was carried out, and this puzzles me. I did >see a mention of it at the Boston Public Library when browsing through >J.J. Minot, Ancestors & Descendents of HAW, 1934. Minot states that the >emigrant's father was "either Thos. W. of Lambeth Marsh, or Richard W. of >Islip". Maybe he found the Islip reference in HAW's book, but I do not >recall seeing it. > >The Whitneys of Islip [which by pure coincidence is about 5 miles from my >home here near Oxford] were quite numerous in the 15th-19th centuries, and >I have heard from various people both in the UK and in Australia whose >ancestors lived in that area. Sometimes the name is spelt WITNEY, >probably because of the town of that name about 10 miles West of Oxford >[the same thing happens now!]. Another strange coincidence is that in >1879 my grandfather Edward Underwood Whitney - who lived in WESTMINSTER >next to the St. Margaret's church - married Florence Aime of .... LAMBETH >[it is no longer a marsh!] > >Here are a couple of extracts from Henry Green's 1866 book. The first is >from the List of Subscribers to the book. The second is from HG's notes >on the material sent to him by HAW, or printed for HAW in Boston .... > >(i) Henry Austin Whitney; Joseph Whitney; Henry Lawrence Whitney; Joseph > Cutler Whitney; Ellerton Pratt Whitney; Miss Elizabeth Whitney; Miss > Constance Whitney [all these of Boston, Mass]; Thomas Heston Whitney > of Glassboro', NJ. > >(ii) "Received from HAW: (a) MSS copy of the Will of Geoffrey Whitney the > poet, lately extracted from the original by Horatio G. Somerby; (b) > Memoranda relating to families of the name Whitney in England; (c) > Wills relating to the name of Whitney in Buckinghamshire & > Oxfordshire, England, 1549 to 1603, with a Pedigree." > >"Of the Memoranda, ten copies were printed on royal 4to, pages 11, at >Boston, USA, April 1859; and of the Wills twelve copies on royal 4to, >pages 23, were privately printed at Boston, USA, October 10th, 1865 ...." > >HAW lists 16 Whitney Pedigree charts, viz: 1: W. of W. Herefordshire; 2: >W. of Clifford, Herefordshire; 3: W.s of Herefordshire; 4: W. of >Llandbeder, Radnor (Wales); 5: W. of Coole [Pilate], Cheshire; 6: W.s of >Cheshire; 7: W. of Picton, Cheshire; 8: W. of Barthomley, Cheshire; >9: W.s of London; 10: W.s of Shropshire; 11: W. of Brook Walden, Essex; >12: W. of Surrey; 13: W. of Chinner and of Islip, Oxfordshire; 14: W. >of Holt, Worcestershire; 15: W.s of various counties, viz: Bucks, Suffolk, >Oxon, Norfolk, York, Warwick, Wilts, Bristol, Northants, Lincoln; 16: W. >of Watertown, NE. > >I am curious to know whether the Austin-Whitneys' and Somerby's records of >their respective researches while in England, and perhaps the pedigree >charts listed below, are actually in the NEHGS archives. I recall a >reference in HAW's book to the NEHG Register. By the way, the HAW book I >refer to is "Brief account of the descendents of J & E Whitney, etc." pub. >1857, BPL ref. # 4432.256. I hope this explains the situation as I know it. I can order a search of the NEHGS Library collections, including the manuscript collections, for a fee. Naturally, I am reluctant to do this unless I am quite sure it would be worthwhile! Thanks for your reply to my message to WHITNEY-L. Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 01:18:41 EDT Subject: Do we have a SLC member now? To: [email protected] Dear WRG: Just a quick question. Since Arvey Whitney is now on a mission for the Church, do we have any other members in the Salt Lake City area? In the light of Robert Ward's recent post, it would be interesting to find out if any of the early works and monographs he cited along with his writeup on Henry Austin Whitney are in the collection there. My nearest FHC, with a microfilm or computer catalog of the SLC holdings, is some distance away. If there is among us one who visits the FHC and can check the catalog, please contact me. If the material is available, I'll be glad to borrow the film and do the searching. Allan E. Green From: "Dave Osborn" <[email protected]> Subject: New to Whitney Mailing list. Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 00:05:01 +0800 To: [email protected] Hi, I am new to all this so at the moment I'm blind. I have Whitneys in both my family and my husbands family. My grandmother in England sent me a copy of her family tree and there are 9 generations with 7 of these being Whitneys, but it only has names on it, no other information. On my husbands side his grandmother was Mary Alice Whitney. All my Whitneys are from the UK. If anyone can help me I would appreciate it. thankyou Julie. From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:34:52 EDT Subject: Whitney To: [email protected] HI I am looking for Bert J Whitney and his wife Winnifred in Oscoda Mi .I found them in the 1920 census . They had four children in 1920 Edward b 1907,Ruth b 1909, lois b 1912 and Maynard b in 1917. They also had a daughter Lois I do not know what year she was born. If you have any info please email me. Mary From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 9:20:33 -0500 Subject: Children of Joel and Mary (Weston) Whitn To: [email protected] In answer to Robert Ward's request for information on the children of Joel and Mary (Weston) Whitney, I provide the following (all from the vital records of Jonesboro, Washington Co., Maine unless otherwise stated): All children born in Chandler's River, Washington Co., Maine except as noted: 1. Mary, b. 14 Sept 1766 in Gorham, Cumberland Co., ME 2. Hannah, b. 25 Dec 1768 3. Ephraim, b. 7 Nov 1770 m. 14 Jun 1795 in Machias, ME, Sarah Noyes (Machais VR) d. 16 Apr 1858 in Jonesboro, ME 4. Reuben, b. 7 Nov 1772 d. 31 Mar 1810 in Jonesboro, ME 5. Joel, b. 5 Feb 1775 d. 22 Dec 1775 in Chandler's River, ME 6. Daniel, b. 4 Feb 1776 7. Joel, b. 26 Jun 1778 (twin) 8. Joseph, b. 26 Jun 1778 (twin) d. 17 Mar 1781 in Chandler's River, ME 9. Lucy, b. 20 Jan 1781 d. 30 Mar 1781 in Chandler's River, ME 10. Joseph, b. 31 Oct 1782 N.B. The name of Chandler's River, ME was changed to Jonesborough in 1789. I also have information from secondary sources about the marriages and children of both Ephraim and Reuben, but have not set out to prove it. If you're interested in such information, let me know. Ken Whitney Silver Spring, MD From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 9:20:34 -0500 Subject: Joanna (Whitney) Sylvester/Micah Whitney To: [email protected] In the Commemorative Biographical Record of the Counties of Rock, Greene, Grant, Iowa, and Lafayette, Wisconsin is a short biographical sketch of Caleb Sylvester and his wife Joanna Whitney. It contains the following sentence: "She was born at Otisfield, Maine, a daughter of Micah Whitney, who spent seven years in the Continental Army." I would like to make two comments on this sentence. In the vital records of Phillips, Franklin Co., Maine are registered the dates of birth of Micah Whitney, his wife Hannah Cobb, and all twelve of their children. Unfortunately, the places of their births is unrecorded there. The vital records of Gorham, Cumberland Co., Maine contain the records of the births of the first six children, all born in Gorham, The last child was born in Gray, Maine. However, the birthplaces of the remaining five children are, I believe, still unknown. Joanna Whitney is one of those five children. It is very interesting to me that this sketch attributes her birthplace to Otisfield, Oxford Co., Maine, especially since her sister Mary was married there to Reubin Smith, and lived there quite a few years. However, Jean Hankins, the Archivist of the Otisfield Historical Society, has searched the Otisfield records both there and in Augusta and can find no record of the birth of any children to Micah and Hannah Whitney in Otisfield. Of course, they may have been born there without being recorded. I wonder what the source was for Joanna's birthplace in the Wisconsin resource. The reference to Micah Whitney being in the Continental Army for seven years is incorrect. Micah Whitney enlisted in Colonel James Scammon's Massachusetts regiment in April of 1775 and served in it until December of that year. He re-enlisted in the 24th Massachusetts Regiment of the Continental Army in January of 1776, and served until January 1, 1777, when he was discharged, and in his own words, "came home." Ken Whitney Silver Spring, MD Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:42:51 -0400 From: "J. Michael Poston" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Joanna (Whitney) Sylvester/Micah Whitney To: [email protected] Hugh D. McLellan, "History of Gorham, ME.," compiled and edited by his daughter, Katharine B. Lewis, Smith & Sale, Printers, Portalnd, 1903, pp 833-834. "Michah Whitney, son of Abel, was a blacksmith. He served in the war of the Revolution, and was sergeant in the War of 1812. He married Hannah, daughter of Andrew and Hannah Cobb. Children: Sally, b. Jan 11, 1781, m. James Humphrey William P., b. May 3 1783, m. Nancy I Carlton Lydia, b. Feb 8, 1785. Joel, b. May 7, 1787, m. Sally Dyer; 2d, Sarah Crompton; 3d Betsey Chase Ebenezer, b.____, m. Dorcas Parlin; l'd in Freeman, Me. Joanna, b. ____, m. Caleb Sylvester. Andrew, b. May 5, 1795, m. Huldah Sweetsir, 1816; l'd in Phillips. Charlotte, b. ____ Mary, b. ____, m. Reuben Smith Happy, b. ____, m. Samuel W. Phoenix of Phillips. Benjamin, b 1806, m. Susan Wells. Nahum, b. ____, l'd down east; unm. Micah Whitney died June 19, 1829, and his wife, in 1834." Page 829. Micah-5 (Abel-4, Nathaniel-3, Benjamin-2, John-1) was born in York, Dec. 11, 1752. the son of Abel and Mary (Cane) Whitney. On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 [email protected] wrote: > In the Commemorative Biographical Record of the Counties of Rock, > Greene, Grant, Iowa, and Lafayette, Wisconsin is a short biographical > sketch of Caleb Sylvester and his wife Joanna Whitney. It contains the > following sentence: "She was born at Otisfield, Maine, a daughter of > Micah Whitney, who spent seven years in the Continental Army." I would > like to make two comments on this sentence. > > In the vital records of Phillips, Franklin Co., Maine are registered the > dates of birth of Micah Whitney, his wife Hannah Cobb, and all twelve of > their children. Unfortunately, the places of their births is unrecorded > there. The vital records of Gorham, Cumberland Co., Maine contain the > records of the births of the first six children, all born in Gorham, The > last child was born in Gray, Maine. However, the birthplaces of the > remaining five children are, I believe, still unknown. Joanna Whitney is > one of those five children. It is very interesting to me that this sketch > attributes her birthplace to Otisfield, Oxford Co., Maine, especially > since her sister Mary was married there to Reubin Smith, and lived there > quite a few years. However, Jean Hankins, the Archivist of the Otisfield > Historical Society, has searched the Otisfield records both there and in > Augusta and can find no record of the birth of any children to Micah and > Hannah Whitney in Otisfield. Of course, they may have been born there > without being recorded. I wonder what the source was for Joanna's > birthplace in the Wisconsin resource. > > The reference to Micah Whitney being in the Continental Army for seven > years is incorrect. Micah Whitney enlisted in Colonel James Scammon's > Massachusetts regiment in April of 1775 and served in it until December > of that year. He re-enlisted in the 24th Massachusetts Regiment of the > Continental Army in January of 1776, and served until January 1, 1777, > when he was discharged, and in his own words, "came home." > > Ken Whitney > Silver Spring, MD > Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:36:56 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: WHITNEY Extracts from the NEHGR, Part 2 To: [email protected] Dear WRG: Here are a few more items. ===================================================================== ======= Norcross, Grenville H., "Muster Roll of Capt. Thomas Willington's Company, 1778", _NEHGR_, vol. XLV (1891), pp. 280-282. [p. 280] A Muster Roll of Capt. Thomas Willington's Company in the Massachusetts Bay Battalion of Forces in the Sarvis of the united States of America Commanded By Colonel Edward Wigglesworth Taken for the month of may, 1778. Commissioned January 1st 1777 ... Coporals ... 2 Lemuel Whitney, D[uration of the] War. ===================================================================== ======= Steiner, Dr. Bernard C., "Statistics of the Connecticut Election Sermons", _NEHGR_, vol. XLVI (1892), pp. 123-126. [p. 125] Date: 1788, May 8. Name of Preacher: Rev. Josiah Whitney, A.M. Graduation: Y[ale] C[ollege] 1752. Residence: Brooklyn, Conn. Text: Ex. xviii. 21 Size: 8vo. Pp.: 40. ===================================================================== ======= Leavitt, Miss Emily W., "Descendants of George Lawrence", _NEHGR_, vol. XLVI (1892), pp. 149-151. [p. 149] 1. GEORGE-1 LAWRENCE was born in 1637; married 1st, Sept. 29, 1657, Elizabeth, the eldest child of Benjamin and Bridget Crispe, of Watertown, Mass. She was born January 8, 1636-7; died May 28, 1681; he married 2d, August 16, 1691, Elizabeth Holland. Their children were: i. Elizabeth, b. Jan. 30, 1658-9; m. Oct. 18, 1681, Thomas Whitney, and lived in Stow, Mass. ... The will of George Lawrence, senior, was dated 1707; in it he mentions his wife Elizabeth; his two youngest children, Joseph and Rachel; his sons George, Benajmin and Daniel; daughters Mercy Baker, living at Yarmouth, Mass., Grace Edes, living at Charlestown; Elizabeth Whitney living at Stow, Mass.; Hannah Sawtel, of Groton, Mass.; Judith Sterns, of Cambridge Farms, Mass.; Mary Flagg, Sarah Rider, Martha Dix, and granddaughter Mary Earl. His sons Daniel and George were appointed administrators at the request of the widow. Inventory was dates April 5, 1709. ===================================================================== ======= Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:59:27 -0600 From: Li Ann Lee <[email protected]> Subject: Whitney Family To: [email protected] It's been a long time since I have been on the Whitney Rootsweb. Any progress on who the father of Thomas Whitney (father of John & Elinor) is? I would appreciate an update. Li Ann Lee Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:16:22 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Whitney Extracts from the NEHGR, Part 3 To: [email protected] Dear WRG, More interesting extracts! ===================================================================== ======== Byington, Rev. Ezra Hoyt, "Necrology of the New England Historic Genealogical Society", _NEHGR_, vol. XLVII (1893), pp. 226-231. [pp. 228-231] DAVID WILLIAMS PATTERSON, the well-known genealogist, was elected a corresponding member of this Society, Sept. 5, 1855. He died at his home in Newark Valley, Tioga Co., N. Y., on 18th Nov. 1892. [Biographical data skipped] It is somewhat difficult, at the present time, to prepare a full and exact schedule of Mr. Patterson's genealogical work. From the best data available, however, we glean the following: The only _published_ works, avowedly his, are:-- ... 9. _The Whitney Family, Connecticut, 1649-1878_. Privately printed by the late S. Whitney Phoenix, of New York City. 3 vols. 4to. 916, 898, 826 pp. and pedigrees. Edition 510 copies. The compilation and arrangement of this work was the greatest monument of Mr. Patterson's industry and skill; and he prepared, also, enough more material (especially biographical) to have made another large volume; which, however, Mr. Phoenix did not see fit to publish. ... In _Manuscript_ form, he left many valuable works, most of which are well prepared for printing; among these the principal are:-- ... 29. _Whitney_. Three large MSS. apparently ready for publication, viz.:-- (a) _Joshua Whitney and his Descendants_. Compiled, 1884-88; dedicated to Abel W., of Adrian, Mich., "whose generosity made possible the studies which opened the way for compiling this genealogy of the W. family of Mass." (b) _Whitney Family of Massachusetts_, -- from John and Elinor, of Watertown, Mass., parents of Joshua above referred to. (c) _Massachusetts Whitneys. Cortland Co. and Tioga Co., N. Y. Branch.--Descendants of Jonathan_. ... By Henry R. Stiles, M.D. ===================================================================== ======== Once again, a genealogist who worked on both the Henry and John WHITNEY families of New England, and left both published and unpublished work. Anyone have any ideas where these manuscripts might be situated today? Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 From: "Dave Osborn" <[email protected]> Subject: my WHITNEY history Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 21:56:17 +0800 To: [email protected] Thanks for the replies to my very first e-mail to the list. I will now send you what I know about my Whitneys. Lets see where to begin. ME. My madian name is SHELDRAKE and I emigrated from England with my parents, sisters and brother to Perth Western Australia in 1967. We came from Croydon Surrey. MY FATHER. Micheal John Sheldrake born 24th March 1935 in Croydon Surrey. Married Jean Marie Easton on 4th September 1954 at Croydon. HIS MOTHER. Harriet Manley born 2nd September 1898 (just had her 100th birthday) where she was born ? She married Walter Hamilton Sheldrake in December 1926 in Croydon Surrey. She had 1 brother and 1 sister Benjamin and Ada. >From here I have no dates or places. HER MOTHER. Ada Dickinson married Benjamin Manley. She had 6 siblings: Elizabeth, Catherine, George, Josephine, Walter and Betrice. HER MOTHER. Marianne Whitney married William Dickinson. She had 9 siblings: Eliza, George South, Joseph, James Davies, Elizabeth Churchman, Catherine Russel, Emma, Robert Eustace, and John. HER FATHER. George Whitney married Elizabeth South. HIS FATHER. Reverend George Whitney married Catherine Davies. HIS FATHER. James Whitney married Jane ? He had 1 brother, John. HIS FATHER. James Whitney married Eleanor? He had 2 brothers George and John. HIS FATHER. James Whitney married Anne ? Now on my husbands side. MY HUSBAND. David John Osborn born 10 July 1961 at Stamford UK, emigrated from England in 1974 with parents and brother. HIS MOTHER. Kathleen Elizabeth Amers, born 18th May 1931 at Stoke on Trent. Married John William Osborn. HER MOTHER. Mary Alice Whitney born ? married to Isaac Templeton Amers. She was living at 87 Leonard st Burslem ? (not sure couldn't make out writing on birth certificate) at the time of Kathleens birth. Hope someone can make sence of this. thanks Julie Osborn. Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:54:00 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Benjamin WHITNEY of Blandford, MA, m. 1808 To: [email protected] At 09:56 AM 10/17/98 EDT, Rose <[email protected]> wrote: >Hi Robert, do you have any information on Benjamin Whitney who married 4 13 >1808 in Blandford, Mass, Amanda Clark b. 10 30 1779 In Grandville, MA daughter >of Joseph Clark and Lydia Rose? Amandas other spouse was Stephen Trumble? >Thanks Rose. Their marriage was recorded in Granville, Hampden Co., MA. See: <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/mass/granville.html> Aside from that, I have no information. The vital records of Blandford are one set we have not yet examined and extracted, partly because they have not been available in print. Benjamin was a favorite name among the WHITNEY family, so that makes it difficult to sort him out from his namesakes. I will post this to the WHITNEY-L mailing list, and see what they may be able to say on the subject. Perhaps someone with a copy of Pierce's Whitney Genealogy may be able to identify him. Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 15:22:01 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: WHITNEY Extracts from the NEHGR, Part 4 To: [email protected] Dear WRG: More interesting extracts! ===================================================================== ======== Blake, Francis E., "James Barrett's Returns of Men Mustered into Service, 1778", _NEHGR_, vol. L (1896), pp. 15-19. [p. 16] June ye 23! 1778 To the Honorb. Council for the State of Massachusetts bay I have mustered the nine months men and there names are as follows ... Marlborough Men ... James Whitney ... ===================================================================== ======== Davis, Andrew McFarland, "Alphabetical List of Partners in the Land Bank of 1740," _NEHGR_, vol. L (1896), pp. 308-317. [p. 316] WHITNEY, WHITTNEY, WITNEY, Jonathan. ===================================================================== ======== Francis Bacon Trowbridge, "Notes and Queries: WHITNEY GENEALOGY", _NEHGR_, vol. L (1896), p. 357. I send for the REGISTER corrections to the "Whintey Genealogy," by Col. F. C. Pierce. No. 193, pp. 59-60. "Squire" Joshua Whitney's wife was *Amy* Blodgett, daughter of Dr. William and Sarah (Spalding nee Hall) Blodgett. She was born 16 February, 1723-4, in Plainfield, Conn. Their daughter ABIGAIL WHITNEY was born 10 January, 1744, in Plainfield, married 2 June, 1768, in Plainfield, Capt. Asa Bacon of Canterbury, Conn., and died 21 September, 1821, in Woodstock, Conn. Captain Bacon was a son of "Leftenant" John and Ruth (Spalding) Bacon, was born 21 November, 1734, in Canterbury, and died there 15 October, 1819. He was active and prominent in town affairs, and was an officer in the Revolution. New Haven, Conn. FRANCIS BACON TROWBRIDGE. ===================================================================== ======== "Book Notices," _NEHGR_, vol. L (1896), p. 377. [A review of _The Ancestry of John Whitney_, by Henry Melville:] The Ancestry of John Whitney, the first title on our list, is a superb volume. Its elegant paper and print, its stamped vellum cover, and the number and excellence of its illustrations, commend it to the most fastidious taste. "At the beginning of the work, the results of which appear in these pages," says Mr. Melville, "Mr. Joseph C. Whitney, of Boston, with great courtesy placed freely at my disposal a mass of memoranda accumulated in the course of several years of investigation by his late father, Henry Austin Whitney." With the clews found in Mr. Whitney's manuscripts, Mr. Melville pushed his investigations into English genealogy with enthusiasm, and the result is the volume before us. The surname Whitney is traced in this volume to Sir Robert de Whitney of Whitney &c., Knight, living in 1242 and mentioned in "Testa de Neville." Abundant details of later generations of the Whitneys to the beginning of the seventeenth century, when John Whitney came to New England and settled in Watertown, are here preserved. There are nearly fifty appropriate illustrations, such as views of castles and their ruins, monuments, coats-of-arms, maps and plans, fac-similes of ancient documents, etc. Several large folding tabular pedigrees are also given. The Whitneys of America owe a debt of gratitude to Mr. Melville for the thorough manner in which he has pursued his researches into the history of the English Whitneys and their honorable record. ===================================================================== ======== Blake, Francis E., "James Barrett's Returns of Men Mustered into Service, 1777-1778," _NEHGR_, vol. L (1896), pp. 468-482. [p. 475] June: 6: 1777 To the Honorb. Council for the State of the massachusetts Bay I have musterd & paid the Bounty to the men Whose names are Hearafter menshoned Sence my Last Returne Viz ... Col. Jackson Batt Capt. Benjm. Brown Company ... Phineas Whitney ... [p. 476] Concord June ye 23: 1777 To the Honorb. Council for the State of Nassachusetts Bay I have musterd & paid the Bounty to the men Whose names are Hearafter menshoned Sence my Last Retune Viz Col Nixon Battallen ... Capt Cory Compa ... Butler Whetney ... [p. 477] Concord August ye 5: 1777 To the Honorb. Council for the State of massachusetts Bay I have musterd & paid the Bounty to the men Whouse names are Hearafter menshond Sence my Last Return Viz:-- Col Biglow Battallen ... Capt Brown Com John Whitney ... [p. 478] ... Col Roberson Battallen Capt Parker Company ... Daniel Whitney ... Col Roberson Battallen Capt Lacin Company ... Uriele Whitney ... [p. 481] June ye 11: 1778 To the Honorb. Council for the State of the massachusetts bay I have musterd & paid the Bounty to the men Whose names are Hearable menshond Sence my Last Returne viz Colo Lee Battallen Capt North Company James Whitney ... Concord August ye 8: 1778 To the Honorb. Council for the State of the massachusetts Bay I have musterd & paid the Bounty to the men whose names are Hereafter menshond Sence my Last Returne Viz ... Colo Lee Battallen Capt North Company ... James Whitney ... ===================================================================== ======== Green, Hon. Samuel A., "A Local Scandal," _NEHGR_, vol. LI (1897), p. 68. The two following papers are found among the Shattuck manuscripts belonging to the New-England Historic Genealogical Society, and refer probably to some local gossip or scandal at Watertown. All the persons therein mentioned had previously lived there, but at the date of the writing Lawrence, Ong, Shattuck and Whitney were residents of Groton, and among the earliest settlers of the town. Jonathan Phillips was son of the first minister of Watertown, and John Sherman was the third minister of the same town. "we whose names are under writen doe testyfy that wharas John shadwick [Shattuck] [or Chadwick?? --RLW] hath reported that Jacob Ong did see & could testyfy that Jonathan philips hath acted unsively with mary dauis we disiscorsing with him the sayd Jacob Ong consarning it he sayd he could say nothing [that] could hurt the sayd Jonathan nor never saw any unsiuel caridg by him the sayd Jonathan witnes our hand this 1 October 66 nathannil Lawranc from groten Joshua whitney mary whitneys X marke ... ===================================================================== ======== Starr, E. C., "Notes and Queries: CORNWALL, CONN.," _NEHGR_, vol. LI (1897), p. 70. In the Records of the First Church, of this town, I find under the heading "Account of Deaths."-- 1776 ----- Whitney Dyed Army 5 June. ===================================================================== ======== I notice that already within a year of the publication of Pierce's Whitney Genealogy, errors were being noted and corrections published! Also, I would beg to differ with the reviewer of Melville's book! Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 From: "John L. Whitney" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Do we have a SLC member now? Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 21:12:37 -0400 To: [email protected] Allan: I have esy access to the catalog on the computer at the local FHC. As I missed previous postings, let me know what your looking for and I will look it up. John L. Whitney [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, October 15, 1998 1:21 AM Subject: Do we have a SLC member now? >Dear WRG: > >Just a quick question. Since Arvey Whitney is now on a mission for the >Church, do we have any other members in the Salt Lake City area? In the light >of Robert Ward's recent post, it would be interesting to find out if any of >the early works and monographs he cited along with his writeup on Henry Austin >Whitney are in the collection there. My nearest FHC, with a microfilm or >computer catalog of the SLC holdings, is some distance away. > >If there is among us one who visits the FHC and can check the catalog, please >contact me. If the material is available, I'll be glad to borrow the film and >do the searching. > >Allan E. Green > > From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 00:06:25 EDT Subject: Re: my WHITNEY history To: [email protected] Dear Julie: As I told you in my original response, I'll be receiving my 3-CD set of British Isles Parish register indexes from the LDS Family History Office in a few days. When I get them, I'll see if I can find any of these names sequentially in the same town/parish. In the meantime, Burslem is a parish in Staffordshire, 3 miles northwest of Newcastle (actually, on my AA map it looks more like northeast of Newcastle and straight north of Stoke on Trent), population 12,714 in or around 1968 when my Genealogical Gazetteer of England was first published. It is in the archdiocese of Stafford, diocese of Lichfield, and has Baptist, Independent, Primative and Wesleyan Methodist, New Connection and Catholic Churches (in addition to the Anglican, of course). Do you have any idea what church your ancestors belonged to? It is interesting that your own family came from Croyden. If they were there for several hundred years, there might be a faint possibility of a connection to the Whitney of Lambeth in the 16th C., but that speculation is far in the future, after your origins are traced back to that time. The problem that most of us have with helping you is that our connections to the English Whitneys generally ended in the 1600's, when the various progenitors of the American Whitney lines emigrated across the Atlantic. I hope we can help you. Keep in touch. Allan E. Green Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:22:58 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Richards/Whitney References: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Dear WRG: Can anyone identify the WHITNEY individuals in the following data? At 05:18 PM 10/17/98 -0500, Dr. E. A. Richards <[email protected]> wrote: >Dear Robert: > >My ancestor, Thomas Richards 2d of Hartford (1635) is noted in the book I >have which deals with the Richards Family. It also was written by Rev Abner >Morse, and is titled: > >Genealogical Register of the Descendants of Several Ancient Puritans > >Volume III > >Boston Press of H.W. Dutton & Son, 1861 > >In that book, on page 27, shown in the direct line of Thomas Richards 2d, is >the notation: > >James Richards Jr., of New Hartford, married Sarah Whitney, who died 1771. >He apparently was the son of James Richards of Farmington. > >Many of my Richards Family were active in New Hartford and I have visited >there many times. > >The reason for this note is that I was surfing through the genie sections >looking for information on Thomas 2d, and came across your Whitney page. >There also are other references to Whitney/Richards on pages 114, 118, 125, >133, 156, 169, and 208, which, although are not in my direct line, are still >of interest and indicate a relationship between the Richards' and the >Whitneys. > >If you wish more info on those tie-ups, let me know. > >Dr. E.A. Richards, P.E. > >Milwaukee Then at 10:32 AM 10/18/1998 -0500, I wrote: >The marriage of James RICHARDS, Jr., and Sarah WHITNEY is recorded on 26 Apr >1769 in Newton, MA. She had been born 23 Oct 1743, Newton, MA, daughter of >Caleb-5 and Hannah (CHENEY) WHITNEY [Timothy-4, John-3, John-2, John-1], and >died in 1771. See the following web page: > <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/john/john12.html#i201>. >I know nothing of her exact date and place of death, or any other information >about James or his/their children. > >References: >1. _Vital Records of Newton, Massachusetts, to the Year 1850_, Boston, MA: >New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1905. >2. Bond, Henry, _Genealogies of the Families and Descendants of the Early >Settlers of Watertown, Massachusetts, Including Waltham and Weston; to Which >is Appended the Early History of the Town. With Illustrations, Maps, and >Notes. Vol. II, Additions, Corrections, and Early History (Boston, MA: >Little, Brown & Company, 1855), p. 964. >3. Harris, Dr. L. M., "A Branch of the Whitney Family," _New England >Historical and Genealogical Register_, XII (1858), p. 217. > >It seems more likely that this James RICHARDS, Jr., was from eastern >Massachusetts, possibly Newton, Cambridge, or Roxbury, MA, rather than >Farmington, CT. I also note that her first cousin Mary WHITNEY married >Edward RICHARDS of Cambridge 20 Mar 1766 in Newton. > >I am interested in the reference to the WHITNEY family which you offer. >Please send them to me. Thank you for offering me this data. At 01:38 PM 10/18/98 -0500, Dr. E. A. Richards <[email protected]> wrote: >Dear Robert: > >This is the total of what I have on the Whitney Family; it augments the prior >information I sent. > >In the book: > > Genealogical Register > Of The Descendants Of > Several Ancient Puritans > Volume III > By Rev. Abner Morse, A.M. >Mem of N. Eng. His. Gen. Soc. > Boston Press of > H.W. Dutton & Son, > 1861 > >The references to the Whitney Family are as follows: > >I. In the line of Edward Richards of Dedham(VI), who arrived ca 1637: > >Page 114 > >170. Leonard Richards born November 1789 married Phoebe Brown of Newport N.H. > >They had: > >No. 8 Maria Richards who married a Mr. Whitney of Upton, MA > >Page 125 > >36, Thaddeus Richards, born June 17, 1741, married Mary Whitney of Newton on >March 20, 1766 > >Page 133 > >79. 205. James Richards married Sarah Whitney born October 23, 1743, >daughter of Caleb and Hannah Whitney of Newton. Sarah died in 1771. > >Page 156 > >324. 785. Willard Richards married Relief Whitney of Rxbury in 1813. > > >II. In the line of Paul Richards of New York(VII), who arrived ca 1633: > >Page 169 > >212. 230. Leander Richards married Elizabeth Newton, resided in Sutton. > >They had > >Henry Richards, born December 6, 1830, who married Marion D. Whitney on >October 19, 1852. They resided in Shrewsbury. > > >III. I. In the line of Samuel Richards of Norwalk, CT (XI), who arrived ca >1714: > >Page 208 > >Ira Richards, born January 18, 1809 married Susan Bixbee, born March 20, >1811, on July 20, 1828 and resided in Norwalk. > >They had > >Joseph H. Richards, born September 18, 1829, who married Maria Whitney, born >June 26, 1834, and resided in Wilton. > >Hope this adds to your vast store of information... > >EA > >(Dr. E.A. Richards, P.E.) Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 10:17:56 GMT Subject: RE: my WHITNEY history To: [email protected] Julie, I recognise the Whitneys on your side as being descended from the Whitneys of Norton Canon in Herefordshire. I can go back one more generation than your list, and I have lots of dates for you and a living contact in the UK (Joyce Prior, nee Joyce Smith, dau. of Ada Manley and William Smith! Perhaps you already know Joyce. She is very intersted in her family history and between us we have compiled a chart back to George (m. 1693). The chart includes your 100 year old grandmother! I need your postal address so that I can send you copies of this stuff, UNLESS of course you are using a Mac as opposed to a PC, in which case you will be able to read the chart if you have "MacDraw". Regards John Whitney (not related as far as I can tell) Oxford, UK. From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:46:18 -0400 Subject: where to go from here? To: [email protected] I am at a dead end and would appreciate pointers on new and creative ways to find my Whitneys. Seems they did not always register their life events. Here is what I have and where I got it (went to VT at saw all the vitals in microfilm, checked all census rolls that were indexed/soundexed and checked some military service rolls): Carleton Delano b. Oct 1889 Rochester VT(no b. rec, but census and childrens b. rec. agree) he married Eva Fletcher Chapin(b. 8May 1885, Chitteneden, VT son of (confirmed by census) James B. b.4Jul 1858 d. 29Dec 1929 72-5-25 (death rec. found) he maried a Laura M. (Unk.) who was born Nov 1868 (census lists her parents as F:VT, M:NY) his parents listed as Eric bp unk (but VT in census) and Sara (Unknown) bp unk (but listed as NH in census) There is no listing for Eric in VT in the vitals or in the census indexes. No birth or marriage record for James B., so I am taking his parents names as reported on his death record with a grain of salt. Except for the unindexed VT census years (which I'll go page by page someday) I've looked at everything in existence for census and vitals. I am stuck. Does anyone have an Eric or James B. as a child of someone and your trail ends there? Maybe we can meet in the middle. Thanks. -Denise Cross From: "Glydie Ann Nelson" <[email protected]> Subject: Whitney's in Fort Ann NY circa 1800 Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 08:11:54 -0800 To: [email protected] Does anyone have any knowledge of a Whitney Family in Fort Ann, NY around 1800? Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:45:40 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: WHITNEY Extracts from the NEHGR, Part 5 To: [email protected] Dear WRG: More interesting and useful items: ===================================================================== ======== Alden, Mrs. Charles L., "Snow Genealogy," _NEHGR_, vol. LI (1897), pp. 204-209. [p. 209] HANNAH-7 SNOW (Jonathan-6, Mark-5, Jonathan-4, Nicholas-3, Mark-2, Nicholas-1), born Oct. 28, 1791; married Isaac Alden, son of William and Susannah (Whitney) Alden, his second wife. By his first wife, Maria Stone, he had Edwin Augustus Alden, Joseph Jackson Alden, Olive Maria Alden. By Hannah, second wife, he had Ruby Hammett-8 Alden, Charles L. Alden, Emily Doane Alden, Alonzo Alden and Avis Alden. Charles-8 L. Alden married Mary Langford Taylor of St. Paul, Minn., daughter of James Wickes Taylor and Chloe (Langford) Taylor, and they have had Antoinette Spencer; Mary Curran, d. y.; John Gale, d. y.; Chloe Sweeting, John Gale, Langford Taylor and Charles Snow Alden. ===================================================================== ======== Lincoln, Waldo, "Four Generations of the Waldo Family in America," _NEHGR_, vol. LII (1898), pp. 213-228. [p. 223] 14. SHUBAEL-4 WALDO (Edward-3, Jonathan-2, Cornelius-1) resided first at Norwich, Conn., afterwards at Mansfield, and removed about 1768 to Alstead, N. H. He married, October 14, 1730, at Bridgewater, Mass., Abigail-4, daughter of Samuel-3 (Samuel-2, Samuel-1) and Rebecca (Carey) Allen of East Bridgewater, Mass. He died May 12, 1776, at Alstead. Children of Shubael and Abigail ... recorded at Mansfield: ... xv. Calvin, b. March 12, 1759; m. 1st, Judith Graves; 2d, Mrs. Clarissa Whitney. ===================================================================== ======== Noyes, James Atikins, "Adams Pedigree," _NEHGR_, vol. LIII (1899), pp. 214-216. ROGER-1 ADAMS married Mary Baker, daughter of Thomas Baker of Roxbury, Mass., and Elizabeth his first wife. She was baptized 11 September, 1653, at Roxbury, and died 28 June, 1710 (Brookline, Mass., parish record). He died 2 March, 1714 (Boston record). His will made 14 December, 1713, proved 10 March, 1714. Inventory of estate was 686£. Roger Adams removed to Brookline, Mass., where he was surveyor 8 March, 1685-6, tithingman 29 March, 1686, constable 24 June, 1689, fence-viewer 4 March, 1694-5, selectman 1697, and assessor 4 March, 1705. Children, born in Roxbury: i. Thomas-2, b. 19 Oct., 1675; d. soon. 2. ii. Joseph, b. 13 Oct., 1676; m. Ruth Whitney. iii. Marya (Mary), b. 22 May, 1678; m. 12 June, 1712-3 by Judge Sewall to James Shedd of Brookline. iv. Sarah, b. 15 Mar., 1679; m. 26 May, 1713, Henry Smith. v. Roger, b. 3 July, 1681; d. 21 July, 1709, at Brookline. vi. Abigail, b. 10 Apr., 1683; m. John Robbins. vii. Daniel, b. 6 Nov., 1684. viii. Hannah, b. 7 Apr., 1688; d. soon. 2. JOSEPH-2 ADAMS (Roger-1), son of Roger-1 and Mary, was born 13 October, 1676, at Roxbury. He married, 22 April, 1701, Ruth Whitney, daughter of John Whitney and Elizabeth Harris of Roxbury. She was born 31 August, 1674, baptized 6 September at Roxbury, and died 19 November, 1762, at Brookline. He was surveyor of Brookline 27 April, 1708, constable 3 March, 1712, tithingman 8 May, 1722, and grand-juryman June, 1726. Child, born in Brookline: 3. i. Joseph<sup>3</sup>, b. 1717; m. Mercy Fowle. 3. JOSEPH-3 ADAMS (Joseph-2, Roger-1), son of Joseph-2 and Ruth, was born in 1717 at Brookline. He married, 2 April, 1740, at Newton, Mass., Mercy Fowle, daughter of Edmund Fowle and Mercy his wife of Newton (town record). She was born in 1721 and died in 1782. He removed to Newton in 1750 and bought a house with fifty-three acres of land around it. The house is still standing on what is now Watertown Street, Newton, a photograph of which, made in 1887, is given herewith. Joseph-3 Adams was one of the twelve founders of the Second Congregational Church in Newton, 21 October, 1781. He died in 1799. Children, all except Mary born at Newton (town record): i. Mary-4, bapt. 29 June, 1749, in First Parish Church at Brookline (church record). ii. Joseph, b. 3 June, 1751; m. 1st, 1 June, 1775, Lydia Meade; 2d, 25 Nov., 1782, at Newton, Thankful Spring, widow of Samuel Spring and daughter of Philip and Sarah Norcross, b. 23 Aug., 1726, at Newton, and d. 1 May, 1801, at Newton. He m. 3d, 3 Dec., 1801, aat Newton, Lois White, who was b. 5 Apr., 1752, at Newton, and d. 1835. He was chosen deacon of the Second Congregational Church in Newton 22 Dec., 1806, and d. 24 Apr., 1813, at Newton. 4. iii. Roger, b. 27 May, 1753; m. 1st, Hepseybeth Russell, and 2d, a Fillebrown. iv. Rebecca, b. 29 June, 1755; m. 5 Oct., 1774, James Downing of Watertown, Mass. v. Smith, b. 13 Mar., 1757; m. 1st, 10 Sept., 1779, Lucy Warren, daughter of Samuel Warren and Abigail Wing of Watertown. She was bapt. 25 May, 1760. He m. 2d, 5 May, 1812, Susanna Rice. His house is still standing near that of his father. vi. Mercy, b. 12 Nov., 1759. vii. Sarah, b. 18 Oct., 1761. viii. Mercy (Marcy), b. 9 Aug., 1765. 4. ROGER-4 ADAMS (Joseph-3, Joseph-2, Roger-1), son of Joseph-3 and Mercy, was born 27 May, 1753, at Newton. He married 1st, 9 November, 1777, Hepseybeth Russell, daughter of Daniel Russell and Hannah Robbins of Menotomy (set off from Cambridge, Mass., 1732, called West Cambridge 1807 and Arlington 1867). She was born 27 April, 1755, baptized 25 May at Menotomy, and died 5 January, 1805, at Newton, buried now in Walnut Street cemetery. Roger<sup>4</sup> Adams was a private in Captain Amariah Fuller's company, Colonel Thomas Gardner's regiment, 19 April 1775, and private in Captain Edward Fuller's company, Colonel Thatcher's regiment, 2 September, 1778. Later he was a lieutenant in the militia. He and his wife Hepseybeth were made members of the Second Congregational Church in Newton 19 July, 1795. He lived with his father after his marriage and all his children were born in the old house, where he resided till his death in 1811. He married 2d a Fillebrown, and died 10 April, 1811, at Newton, buried now in Walnut Street cemetery, Newton, in lot of his daughter Betsey Noyes, having been removed from the old cemetery at West Newton. Children, all by 1st wife and born in Newton (town record): i. Isaac-5, b. 1778; bapt. 17 Dec., 1780; m. 2 Sept., 1806, Edith Winship, daughter of Stephen Winship and Edith Merriam of Lexington, Mass. She was b. 16 Jan., 1789, and d. 11 Nov., 1871. He died 18 Nov., 1841. They lived in Boston. ii. Mary, b. 20 June, 1780; bapt. 17 Dec., 1780; m. 5 Jan., 1798, Enoch Patterson, son of David Patterson and Beulah Clark of Framingham, Mass. He was b. 30 Sept., 1772, and d. in Dedham, Mass., 17 Mar., 1858. She d. 19 May, 1858. They are buried in Mt. Auburn Cemetery, Cambridge, Mass. iii. Hepseybeth, b. 26 Oct., 1781; m. 2 Apr., 1807, Joseph Faxon, son of James Faxon and Mary Field of Braintree, Mass. He was b. 21 Jan., 1779, at Braintree, and d. 22 June, 1865. She d. 13 Mar., 1853. They lived in Quincy, Newton and Watertown, Mass. iv. Mercy (Marcy), b. 27 Mar., 1783; bapt. 6 Apr., 1783; m. 5 Nov., 1806, John Blanchard. He was b. 23 Mar., 1783, at East Stoughton, Mass., and d. 26 Nov., 1812. She d. 11 Dec., 1862. They lived in Boston. v. Roger, b. 12 June, 1785; m. 1st, Mary Weir of Boston; m. 2d, 14 Oct., 1805, Mary Russell of Cambridge, Mass. He d. about 1819. vi. Hannah, b. 28 Jan., 1787; m. 27 July, 1808, Joseph Wyman of Medford, Mass. vii. Betsey, b. 13 Nov., 1788, bapt. 23d; m. 3 Oct., 1811, at Boston, by Rev. Charles Lowell of the West Church, to Samuel Noyes, son of Moses Noyes of Newbury and Wilmington, Mass., and Windham, N. H., and his 2d wife, Phebe Richardson of Billerica, Mass. He was born 15 Oct., 1782 (bible record made by himself), and d. 31 Mar., 1833, at Boston. They lived in Boston. She d. 31 Jan., 1881, at Brooklyn, N. Y. They are buried in Walnut Street cemetery, Newton, Mass. viii. Martha (Patty), b. 14 Oct., 1790; m. 18 Feb., 1811, William Faxon, son of James Faxon and Mary Field of Braintree, Mass. He was b. 9 Feb., 1784-5, at Braintree, and d. 25 Dec., 1838. She d. 31 May, 1840. They lived in Boston. ix. Walter, m. a Rice. ----------------------------- References to authorities. -- New-Eng. Hist. and Gen. Register, vol. 5, p. 307; vol. 11, pp. 113, 117, 225; vol. 12, p. 215; vol. 53, page 35. Reports of the Record Commissioners of Boston, 1st Report, p. 128; 6th Report, pp. 65, 85, 96, 97, 120. Muddy River and Brookline records (1634 to 1838), pp. 56, 58, 60, 61, 86, 92, 94, 97, 121, 129. Ellis's Roxbury, p. 91. Amer. Quart. Reg., vol. 8, pp. 47, 54. Savage's Gen. Dict., vol. 1, pp. 15, 99; vol. 2, pp. 224, 363; vol. 4, p. 530. Bond's Watertown, pp. 621, 643, 964. John Pierce's Brookline Church discourses (1817), pp. 26, 30, 31; (1847), p. 21. Jackson's Newton, pp. 160, 162, 184, 201, 224, 231, 278, 372, 417. Wood's Historical Sketches of Brookline, pp. 241, 242, 332. Smith's Newton, pp. 224, 286, 334, 337, 378. Faxon Family by G. L. Faxon, pp. 190, 191, 193. Hudson's Lexington, p. 273 of Gen. Reg. Cutter's Arlington, pp. 189, 293. Robert Harris Gen. by L. M. Harris. John and Elinor Whitney by W. L. Whitney, p. 16. Hist. Second Congregational Church in Newton. Paige's Cambridge, p. 649. Wyman's Charlestown, p. 838. Rev. Rolls at State House, Boston, vol. 12, p. 57; vol. 19, p. 46. ===================================================================== ======== Enjoy! Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:24:07 EDT Subject: Witney13 To: [email protected] Hello All; I'm ready to distribute Witney13 database. I'm listing the changes that have been incorporated and the contributors, which I have a record of, as a check in the event I missed someone. Please respond if I missed someones input: Contributor Line Keith T. Mason John Whitney/Ruth Reynolds Connie Whitney Redd Silas Whitney/Sarah Withington L.L. Ketchum David Whitney/Elizabeth Warren Norris Taylor Nathaniel Whitney/Abigail Josling Jeanne Muse Joseph Whitney/Abigail Nutting Tom Howder Joanna Whitney/Caleb Barker Sylvester Patricia Whitney-Jones Enoch Whitney/Thankful Parke Joe Keller Jessie Whitney/Mary Sawyer ETC. Sandy Whitney Fahmbruch Phineas Whitney/Elizabeth Rand Loren Martin Carpenter Ezra Whitney/Sally F. Slack Jeanne Muse Timothy Whitney/Margaret Bacon Eberwein Jonathan Whitney/Susanna Whitney David Shannon Sarah Whitney/Thankful Warren Mendenhall Moses Whitney/Lydia Tim Doyle Ezra Whitney/Agnis Janis Whitaker Ezra Whitney/Agnes Ross Kirkemo Ruth Whitney/Enoch Lawrence Mike Watts Joseph Whitney/Mary E. Thompson Susan Murphy Charles Percival Whitney/Anna Julia McLean Jeanne Muse John Whitney/Elinor connection Paula Butler James Harvey Whitney/Lucy Marie Southworth Robert L. Ward/Bowker Patty Whitney/Jotham Bowker Robert L. Ward/Bowker Lydia Whitney/Samuel Bowker If you want a copy of the Witney13.GEDCOM please Email me and I'll include you in the distribution. Keep in touch Jon Aston From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 5:05:58 -0500 Subject: Micah and Hannah (Cobb) Whitney To: [email protected] Thanks for the History of Gorham reference. I'm well familiar with it, and unfortunately find not much of value in it. The listing of the children of Micah and Hannah in this history does not convince me that they were all born in Gorham, especially since I know that Benjamin was born in Gray, ME. The Gorham vital records contain a record of the births of only the first six children, and a complete registration of the whole family was never made in Gorham, as it was in Phillips, ME. While Micah served in the Revolutionary War, I can find no evidence that he ever served in the War of 1812. By the year 1812, Micah would have been 60 years old, a fairly advanced age for a soldier, but not out of the realm of possibility. A more convincing fact is that in his sworn deposition documenting his military service that accompanied his application for a military pension, no mention is made of service in the War of 1812. The pension application is dated April 22, 1818. I believe that he would have received a larger pension if he also documented serving in the War of 1812, so I see no reason to omit this service from his testimony. I can't find a record of a Micah Whitney on the rolls in the War of 1812, but there may have been. I just don't believe it was our Micah. As to the deaths of Micah and Hannah Whitney, McLellan has them incorrectly listed also. Both Micah and Hannah Cobb Whitney died in Phillips, ME. He died 4 Sept 1832, and she died 5 Dec 1833. They are buried in unmarked, but I believe identifiable, graves on the banks of the Sandy River near Phillips, opposite what was once known as the Rufus Bean Farm. They lived there with their son, Benjamin Morse Whitney. Which returns me to the five children of unknown birthplace. Otisfield, or somewhere nearby, just seems to me to fit, but I may never prove it. It is known that Micah worked on the road in Otisfield in 1779, and actually lived on a piece of land he owned there for a short period of time in 1782. However, he returned to Gorham before the birth of his son, William, in 1783. Where they lived between 1791 when Ebenezer was born in Gorham, and 1806 when Benjamin was born in Gray, I do not know, but sure would like to learn. Ken Whitney Silver Spring, MD From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 5:07:11 -0500 Subject: Families of Dr. John Whitney To: [email protected] I developed the following facts about Dr. John Whitney4 (Nathaniel3, Benjamin2,John1) while helping one of his descendants in Alberta, Canada to complete her knowledge of him. I offer the following in order to aid any other of his descendants in their research: Sources: (1) Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA Vital Records (2) Vital Records of York, York Co., Maine, edited by Bragdon and Frost. (3) "Tristram Coffin", by Allen Coffin (4) Maine Probate Abstracts, Vol. 1; edited by J.E. Frost Dr. John Whitney, b. 27 Nov 1716 in Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA, son of Nathaniel and Sarah (Ford) Whitney. (1) m. 1st. Margaret Coffin, daughter of Major Josiah and Elizabeth Coffin (3). She was b. 9 Jul 1721 (3), was of Sherbourn, Nantucket Island, Dukes Co., MA (2). Children: Sarah, b. 22 Apr 1747 in Sherbourn, Nantucket Island, MA (2). Margaret, b. 22 Jul 1749 in York, ME (2) John Coffin, b. 6 Nov 1751 in York, ME (2) Margaret Coffin Whitney had previously been married to Shuabel Gardner. (3) m. 2nd. Hephzibah Adams, daughter of Hezekiah and Mary (Ware) Adams (2). She was born in York, ME, 11 Apr 1720 (2), and had previously married Richard Adams, son of Sam and Liddah (Gowell) Adams on 30 Dec 1739 in York, ME (2). Children of Hephzibah and Richard Adams, both children born in York, ME (2): Hephzibah, b. 2 Apr 1742 (she died before 14 Jul 1761 (4)). Richard, b. 20 Jul 1744 Children of Dr. John and Hephzibah Adams Whitney, both born in York, ME (2). Hephzibah, b. 30 Jun 1755, m. 21 Dec 1775 in York, ME, Joseph Dunham (2) Miriam Adams, b. 6 May 1757, m. 19 Jan 1775 in York, ME, Thomas Talpey (2). Ken Whitney Silver Spring, MD Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:48:32 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Families of Dr. John Whitney To: [email protected] At 05:07 AM 10/21/98 -0500, [email protected] wrote: > I developed the following facts about Dr. John Whitney4 >(Nathaniel3, Benjamin2,John1) while helping one of his descendants in >Alberta, Canada to complete her knowledge of him. I offer the following >in order to aid any other of his descendants in their research: > >Sources: >(1) Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA Vital Records >(2) Vital Records of York, York Co., Maine, edited by Bragdon and Frost. >(3) "Tristram Coffin", by Allen Coffin >(4) Maine Probate Abstracts, Vol. 1; edited by J.E. Frost > >Dr. John Whitney, b. 27 Nov 1716 in Sherborn, Middlesex Co., MA, son of >Nathaniel and Sarah (Ford) Whitney. (1) >m. 1st. Margaret Coffin, daughter of Major Josiah and Elizabeth Coffin >(3). She was b. 9 Jul 1721 (3), was of Sherbourn, Nantucket Island, Dukes >Co., MA (2). >Children: >Sarah, b. 22 Apr 1747 in Sherbourn, Nantucket Island, MA (2). >Margaret, b. 22 Jul 1749 in York, ME (2) >John Coffin, b. 6 Nov 1751 in York, ME (2) >Margaret Coffin Whitney had previously been married to Shuabel Gardner. >(3) > >m. 2nd. Hephzibah Adams, daughter of Hezekiah and Mary (Ware) Adams (2). >She was born in York, ME, >11 Apr 1720 (2), and had previously married Richard Adams, son of Sam and >Liddah (Gowell) Adams on 30 Dec 1739 in York, ME (2). >Children of Hephzibah and Richard Adams, both children born in York, ME >(2): > Hephzibah, b. 2 Apr 1742 (she died before 14 Jul > 1761 (4)). > Richard, b. 20 Jul 1744 > >Children of Dr. John and Hephzibah Adams Whitney, both born in York, ME >(2). >Hephzibah, b. 30 Jun 1755, m. 21 Dec 1775 in York, ME, Joseph Dunham (2) >Miriam Adams, b. 6 May 1757, m. 19 Jan 1775 in York, ME, Thomas Talpey >(2). > > Ken Whitney > Silver Spring, MD I believe Dr. John-4 WHITNEY had an earlier wife and three more children. Eastham VRs <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/mass/eastham.html> show his marriage to Jerusha KNOWLES on 20 Sep 1739, and the birth of three sons: John, 2 Sep 1740; Josiah, 7 Nov 1741; and Seth, 5 Feb 1742/3. Their intentions of marriage are also recorded in Harwich, which was his home, whereas Eastham was hers <.../harwich.html>. What happened to these three children I cannot say. Likewise I am ignorant of the identity of Jerusha KNOWLES. Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 23:01:31 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Ebenezer-5 WHITNEY To: [email protected] At 10:19 PM 10/21/98 -0400, dill wrote: >Robert, I just came across your Whitney genealogy and I have a problem with some on the statements about Ebenezer Whitney(5), Nathaniel, Nathaniel, John, John & Elinor. Regarding his marriage to Lydia Goodell.. I have been researching this family and have been looking for hard evidence of a marriage for Ebenezer. Since his wife is not named for the birth records of his children - I have the feeling that Lydia was either a 2nd wife and not the mother of Elizabeth & Ebenezer . If you have any documentation other than what was in the Sutton VR's please share it with me as I would be so happy not to have to pursue this glitch any more. As it stands, there are too many "probably's" for me.When Ebenezer, Jr. was in court on a "Guardianship" (Worc. Cty Probate Case# 64777) he was 18 in 1756, Elizabeth got married in 1754. Lydia didn't die until1796. That sounds like the step mother didn't want responsibility of Ebenezer, Jr. and she didn't want to maintain his inheretence or property until he reached the age of majority. > >Waiting your reply -- Dotty Dill desc. of Stephen Bartlett & Elizabeth Whitney's daughter Tamar who married Peter Spaulding.. > >Attachment Converted: "C:\EUDORA\ATTACH\Untitled.htm" The date of death attributed to him of 23 Jan 1743 apparently belongs to a different Ebenezer-4 WHITNEY (Ebenezer-3, Richard-2, John-1), and it occurred in Oxford, MA. I do not know when your Ebenezer-5 WHITNEY died. The fact that Ebenezer-6, Jr., was in court having a guardian appointed probably means that his father had died before 1756. It does not indicate anything about a step-mother or birth mother, merely that the father had died and that he had left property which the son was due to inherit when he came to the age of majority. Can you elucidate the matter of the death date of Ebenezer-5? Have you checked to see what F. C. Pierce says on the matter? Have you had someone check the original vital record entry to see if it really says 1753, or perhaps 1733? Is there a probate for Lydia GOODELL's father which might show her married name before 1753? Have you found her birth record? Are there any deeds for Ebenezer-5 in Worcester County mentioning a wife? Given the fact that the death of Lydia (GOODELL) WHITNEY is given two ways in the Sutton VRs, one clearly an error, it seems important to check the original. I'm very glad to correspond with you on this family. Perhaps by putting our heads together, we can straighten this out. I am sending a courtesy copy of this message to the WHITNEY-L mailing list. Let's see if anyone on the list can help out, too! Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:02:45 EDT Subject: Jefferson County NY To: [email protected] Having trouble finding anything past my last Whitney. William Whitney b 1814 in Rutland, Jefferson County, NY m Lucy Bryant b 1830. They had one know child: William Whitney. Lucy and William are in the 1850 Butler County Iowa Census with a new father, GC? Johnson. William Sr. was supposed to have died in Iowa? Any help would be appreciated. Interest in any Whitney's in Jefferson County, NY. Thanks everyone. Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 23:11:03 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Sarah Crumption m. Joel Whitney (Number 157) To: [email protected] At 02:39 AM 1/3/97 -0800, you wrote: >Mr. Ward, > Would you have any information concerning the parentage of the Sarah >Crumpton who married Joel Whitney (son of Micah Whitney and Hannah Cobb >and Individual Number 157 on the Modified Register)? > I have a William Whitney who married a Sarah >Compton/Crumpton/Compting (born circa 1792), the d/o Joseph Compton and >Anna Vendoosen/VanDeusen of New York. It was a strange coincidence to >see a Sarah Crumpton married to a Whitney. > Do you know of any unattached William Whitneys who would have been >born circa 1775-1790, or thereabouts, and who would have attachments to >New York, then disappeared from the New England scene? Any help would >be appreciated. > Thank you, Patty Whitney Gravois. Sorry, I can't help you with Sarah CROMPTON. Apparently she and her husband Joel lived in Maine, not New York. Since William is a fairly common name among the WHITNEY families, it is difficult to pick out likely candidates for your William. Both the family of John and Elinor WHITNEY, and the family of Henry WHITNEY had numerous branches who settled in New York. Sorry not to be more help. I will send a courtesy copy of this message to the WHITNEY-L mailing list. Perhaps someone on the list will be able to help you. Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:30:59 -0500 Subject: Benjamin Morse Whitney To: [email protected] I have not one clue as to why Morse was chosen as his middle name. I will tell you that I have found some middle names in my branch of the family which seem to come from either historical national or local figures. Perhaps that is so here. The only Morse I am familiar with is the one who married Jane Whitney3 (Benjamin2, John1). Ken Whitney Silver Spring, MD Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 06:17:55 -0500 From: Margie and George Parker <[email protected]> Subject: Ebenezer(5) To: [email protected] Dear Robert and all: You asked what Pierce says about Ebenezer-5 (Nathaniel, Nathaniel, John, John). Seems to be another of his 'jems '. He has (as entry 274) Ebenezer-5 bap Apr 25 1714, a doctor, resident of Worcester, died Jan 23, 1743. His brother Israel of Oxford was adm. of estate, the inventory dated May 1745. Nothing further. I believe Tim Doyle shared something earlier this year from TAG on the confusion of Israel that indicated the Israel of Oxford (and thus also his brother Ebenezer the doctor) was not son of Nathaniel-4. George From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 8:25:45 -0500 Subject: RE: Micah and Hannah (Cobb) Whitney To: [email protected] I do not believe that my Benjamin Morse Whitney6 (Micah5, Abel4, Nathaniel3, Benjamin2, John1) is the one you seek, He was born in Gray, ME on 3 Mar 1806, and lived for many years in Phillips, ME. They went west and lived in New Mexico from 1869, and returned to Gardiner, ME in 1887. He died there 1 May 1890. They had no children named Margaret. I believe I may have found your Benjamin of Bowdoin, ME. According to F.C. Pierce (from whom everything should be taken with a grain of salt), Benjamin5 descends: John1, Benjamin2, John3, Benjamin4. He was the son of Benjamin4 and Mercy Hinkley Whitney. Benjamin and Mercy's son Benjamin5 was born in Lisbon, ME, but Pierce provides no date. However. He does say that Benjamin5 settled in Bowdoin. Benjamin4 died in Lisbon Falls 8 Nov 1797, so he is probably not the one in Lisbon in the 1810 Census., but his son could be the one in Bowdoin. Since Benjamin and Mercy had no daughter named Margaret, she may have been the daughter of Benjamin5. There is no further mention of Benjamin5 in Pierce's work, but I'm pretty sure I have seen a published genealogy of the ancestors of Mercy Hinkley somewhere in my travels. It may contain information about her children also. I will keep my eyes open for this genealogy and for any other info which you may find of use. Good luck in your search. Ken Whitney -----Original Message----- From: mbr%[email protected] [SMTP:MIME @INTERNET {mbr%[email protected]}] Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 6:18 PM To: Whitney, Kenneth L. Subject: RE: Micah and Hannah (Cobb) Whitney -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- The Benjamin in Bowdoin was supposed to have married Mercy Hinckley, so check yours for that name too. He is mentioned in Robert Ward's DB, but his children are not there. Martin At 03:07 PM 10/21/98 -0500, you wrote: > > The Benjamin in this message is Benjamin Morse Whitney, son of Micah >Whitney. I remember that he lived in Phillips, ME for quite a few years. >I will have to check my files and see if he lived in either Lisbon or >Bowdoin. I may not have that info, however. I'll get back to you. > Ken Whitney > -----Original Message----- >From: mbr%[email protected] [SMTP:MIME @INTERNET >{mbr%[email protected]}] >Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 1:58 PM >To: Whitney, Kenneth L. >Subject: Re: Micah and Hannah (Cobb) Whitney > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- >Hi. I saw your mention of Benjamin Whitney. I have been looking for a >Benjamin in Bowdoin who may have been the father of a Margaret Whitney. >In >the 1810 census there are two Benjamins, one in Bowdoin and one in >Lisbon. >I am pretty sure the one in Lisbon is not mine. Which is your Benjamin? > > >Martin Roberts > > >At 05:05 AM 10/21/98 -0500, you wrote: >> Thanks for the History of Gorham reference. I'm well familiar with it, > > >>and unfortunately find not much of value in it. The listing of the >>children of Micah and Hannah in this history does not convince me that > > >>they were all born in Gorham, especially since I know that Benjamin was > > >>born in Gray, ME. The Gorham vital records contain a record of the >births >>of only the first six children, and a complete registration of the whole > > >>family was never made in Gorham, as it was in Phillips, ME. >> >> While Micah served in the Revolutionary War, I can find no evidence >that >>he ever served in the War of 1812. By the year 1812, Micah would have >>been 60 years old, a fairly advanced age for a soldier, but not out of > > >>the realm of possibility. A more convincing fact is that in his sworn >>deposition documenting his military service that accompanied his >>application for a military pension, no mention is made of service in the > > >>War of 1812. The pension application is dated April 22, 1818. I believe > > >>that he would have received a larger pension if he also documented >>serving in the War of 1812, so I see no reason to omit this service from > > >>his testimony. I can't find a record of a Micah Whitney on the rolls in > > >>the War of 1812, but there may have been. I just don't believe it was >our >>Micah. >> >> As to the deaths of Micah and Hannah Whitney, McLellan has them >>incorrectly listed also. Both Micah and Hannah Cobb Whitney died in >>Phillips, ME. He died 4 Sept 1832, and she died >>5 Dec 1833. They are buried in unmarked, but I believe identifiable, >>graves on the banks of the Sandy River near Phillips, opposite what was > > >>once known as the Rufus Bean Farm. They lived there with their son, >>Benjamin Morse Whitney. >> >> Which returns me to the five children of unknown birthplace. Otisfield, > > >>or somewhere nearby, just seems to me to fit, but I may never prove it. > > >>It is known that Micah worked on the road in Otisfield in 1779, and >>actually lived on a piece of land he owned there for a short period of > > >>time in 1782. However, he returned to Gorham before the birth of his >son, >>William, in 1783. Where they lived between 1791 when Ebenezer was born >in >>Gorham, and 1806 when Benjamin was born in Gray, I do not know, but sure > > >>would like to learn. >> >> Ken Whitney >> Silver Spring, MD >> > Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:18:48 -0400 From: Cynthia Abbott <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Micah and Hannah (Cobb) Whitney References: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Hi-- I am also a Whitney decendant --my Whitneys lived in Moose River,Maine and possibly Jackman,Maine. Cyn [email protected] wrote: > I do not believe that my Benjamin Morse Whitney6 (Micah5, Abel4, > Nathaniel3, Benjamin2, John1) is the one you seek, He was born in Gray, > ME on 3 Mar 1806, and lived for many years in Phillips, ME. They went > west and lived in New Mexico from 1869, and returned to Gardiner, ME in > 1887. He died there 1 May 1890. They had no children named Margaret. > I believe I may have found your Benjamin of Bowdoin, ME. According to > F.C. Pierce (from whom everything should be taken with a grain of salt), > Benjamin5 descends: John1, Benjamin2, John3, Benjamin4. He was the son of > Benjamin4 and Mercy Hinkley Whitney. Benjamin and Mercy's son Benjamin5 > was born in Lisbon, ME, but Pierce provides no date. However. He does say > that Benjamin5 settled in Bowdoin. Benjamin4 died in Lisbon Falls 8 Nov > 1797, so he is probably not the one in Lisbon in the 1810 Census., but > his son could be the one in Bowdoin. Since Benjamin and Mercy had no > daughter named Margaret, she may have been the daughter of Benjamin5. > There is no further mention of Benjamin5 in Pierce's work, but I'm > pretty sure I have seen a published genealogy of the ancestors of Mercy > Hinkley somewhere in my travels. It may contain information about her > children also. I will keep my eyes open for this genealogy and for any > other info which you may find of use. Good luck in your search. > Ken Whitney > > -----Original Message----- > From: mbr%[email protected] [SMTP:MIME @INTERNET > {mbr%[email protected]}] > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 6:18 PM > To: Whitney, Kenneth L. > Subject: RE: Micah and Hannah (Cobb) Whitney > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > The Benjamin in Bowdoin was supposed to have married Mercy Hinckley, so > check yours for that name too. He is mentioned in Robert Ward's DB, but > his > children are not there. > > Martin > > At 03:07 PM 10/21/98 -0500, you wrote: > > > > The Benjamin in this message is Benjamin Morse Whitney, son of Micah > >Whitney. I remember that he lived in Phillips, ME for quite a few years. > > > >I will have to check my files and see if he lived in either Lisbon or > >Bowdoin. I may not have that info, however. I'll get back to you. > > Ken Whitney > > -----Original Message----- > >From: mbr%[email protected] [SMTP:MIME @INTERNET > >{mbr%[email protected]}] > >Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 1:58 PM > >To: Whitney, Kenneth L. > >Subject: Re: Micah and Hannah (Cobb) Whitney > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- > >Hi. I saw your mention of Benjamin Whitney. I have been looking for a > >Benjamin in Bowdoin who may have been the father of a Margaret Whitney. > > > >In > >the 1810 census there are two Benjamins, one in Bowdoin and one in > >Lisbon. > >I am pretty sure the one in Lisbon is not mine. Which is your Benjamin? > > > > > >Martin Roberts > > > > > >At 05:05 AM 10/21/98 -0500, you wrote: > >> Thanks for the History of Gorham reference. I'm well familiar with it, > > > > > > > >>and unfortunately find not much of value in it. The listing of the > >>children of Micah and Hannah in this history does not convince me that > > > > > > > >>they were all born in Gorham, especially since I know that Benjamin was > > > > > > > >>born in Gray, ME. The Gorham vital records contain a record of the > >births > >>of only the first six children, and a complete registration of the > whole > > > > > >>family was never made in Gorham, as it was in Phillips, ME. > >> > >> While Micah served in the Revolutionary War, I can find no evidence > >that > >>he ever served in the War of 1812. By the year 1812, Micah would have > >>been 60 years old, a fairly advanced age for a soldier, but not out of > > > > > > > >>the realm of possibility. A more convincing fact is that in his sworn > >>deposition documenting his military service that accompanied his > >>application for a military pension, no mention is made of service in > the > > > > > >>War of 1812. The pension application is dated April 22, 1818. I believe > > > > > > > >>that he would have received a larger pension if he also documented > >>serving in the War of 1812, so I see no reason to omit this service > from > > > > > >>his testimony. I can't find a record of a Micah Whitney on the rolls in > > > > > > > >>the War of 1812, but there may have been. I just don't believe it was > > > >our > >>Micah. > >> > >> As to the deaths of Micah and Hannah Whitney, McLellan has them > >>incorrectly listed also. Both Micah and Hannah Cobb Whitney died in > >>Phillips, ME. He died 4 Sept 1832, and she died > >>5 Dec 1833. They are buried in unmarked, but I believe identifiable, > >>graves on the banks of the Sandy River near Phillips, opposite what was > > > > > > > >>once known as the Rufus Bean Farm. They lived there with their son, > >>Benjamin Morse Whitney. > >> > >> Which returns me to the five children of unknown birthplace. > Otisfield, > > > > > >>or somewhere nearby, just seems to me to fit, but I may never prove it. > > > > > > > >>It is known that Micah worked on the road in Otisfield in 1779, and > >>actually lived on a piece of land he owned there for a short period of > > > > > > > >>time in 1782. However, he returned to Gorham before the birth of his > >son, > >>William, in 1783. Where they lived between 1791 when Ebenezer was born > > > >in > >>Gorham, and 1806 when Benjamin was born in Gray, I do not know, but > sure > > > > > >>would like to learn. > >> > >> Ken Whitney > >> Silver Spring, MD > >> > > From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:13:36 -0500 Subject: Dr. John Whitney To: [email protected] Thanks for the info on Dr. John Whitney's marriage to Jerusha Knowles. I had seen this info before, but couldn't figure out how to know that the John Whitney that married Jerusha Knowles was the same one who married Margaret Coffin and Hephzibah Adams. Can you tell me how you figured it out? Also, I have at home the info requested on Sarah Crumpton. Her full name was Sarah Ramsdell Crumpton, and she was a widow when Joel married her. I'll forward full info tomorrow. Ken Whitney Silver Spring, MD Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:11:17 -0700 From: "Patricia A. Whitney-Jones" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: whitney question To: [email protected] Hi Carrie: I do have a couple of Cummings on my database here at home, but not much! Source: "Ebenezer Whitney of Stow, Mass and Pomfret, Conn." by Prentiss Glazier Israel Whitney (b. Bef 1709 d. 1 Jan 1746) was a child of Ebenezer Whitney (30 Jun 1672 d. 5 Aug 1727). Another one of Ebenezer's children was Enoch (Abt. 1708 d. date unknown), from which my line branches. Parents of Oliver and Eleazer Cummings unknown at this time. Oliver Cummings m. Sybilla Whitney [b.1732/33;dau. of Israel Whitney) Eleazer Cummings m. Hannah Whitney b.1737 (dau. of Israel Whitney) Eleazer Cummings and Hannah (Whitney) Cummings had a son named Israel Whitney Cummings. I don't have a George Whitney in my personal database. You might check with the Whitney Discussion Group's extensive knowledge and databases. [email protected] Administrivia: To subscribe to WHITNEY-L, send a message to [email protected] that contains in the body of the message the command subscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use subscribe in the subject, too. Happy searching... Regards, Tricia At 07:11 AM 10/22/98 EDT, you wrote: >Hi my "search" choice on my family tree maker keeps taking me to your site, >but I can't find where to go. I'm looking for info on Laura Theresa Cummings >m. George Whitney. His line came directly from Ireland to Kansas. Are you >familiar with those Whitneys? Please let me know, >Thank you, >Carrie Nall > > Patricia Whitney-Jones {Lackie/Hoopes} San Diego, California http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/h/i/Patricia-A-WhitneyJones/index.html [my niece) http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/o/w/Karen--Howell/ LACKIE*LAVIGNE*SANDIFORD*WHITNEY*REID*PERRY*TYLER*WARNER* FROST***BULLEN*STAATS*MAXWELL*CROCKETT*MCCRONE* HOFFECKER*NAUDAIN*PEACH*ROBERTS***HOOPES*JONES Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:16:18 -0700 From: "Patricia A. Whitney-Jones" <[email protected]> Subject: Whitney, George m. a Cummings To: [email protected] Could anyone in the group help Carrie? See copied below =================================== Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:11:24 EDT To: [email protected] Subject: whitney question Hi my "search" choice on my family tree maker keeps taking me to your site, but I can't find where to go. I'm looking for info on Laura Theresa Cummings m. George Whitney. His line came directly from Ireland to Kansas. Are you familiar with those Whitneys? Please let me know, Thank you, Carrie Nall [email protected] Patricia Whitney-Jones {Lackie/Hoopes} San Diego, California http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/h/i/Patricia-A-WhitneyJones/index.html [my niece) http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/o/w/Karen--Howell/ LACKIE*LAVIGNE*SANDIFORD*WHITNEY*REID*PERRY*TYLER*WARNER* FROST***BULLEN*STAATS*MAXWELL*CROCKETT*MCCRONE* HOFFECKER*NAUDAIN*PEACH*ROBERTS***HOOPES*JONES From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:05:35 EDT Subject: I hope someone can help me To: [email protected] I have a name that I thought maybe someone could help me with. The name is H.M. Whitney. He was the president of the Dominion Coal Co. Does anyone have any information on him or his decendents. Any help would be appreciated. Beth Searching the Whitney name but coming up empty on my family. Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 17:13:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Barry Whitney <[email protected]> Subject: Eli Whitney, Mulberry Grove, and the Cotton Gin To: [email protected] Dear Cousins, Based mostly on information prepared some time ago by the Mulberry Grove Foundation, I have put together a web page about the Plantation in Georgia (not too far from Savannah) where Eli Whitney developed the cotton gin <http://members.xoom.com/bwhitney/EliWhitney/>. I added several links, including one to a page describing the troubles that the Foundation has run into in its drive to restore and develop the plantation as a historic site. Perhaps some of you will be inspired to contact a still-active (?) member of the Foundation Committee, Mr. Wade Waters, Vice Chairman, 308 Pinewood Drive, Pooler, Georgia 31322 (912) 748-7909 to find out the current status of their efforts or to offer some guidance or help. Yours, Barry John Barry Whitney III [email protected] <http://members.tripod.com/~bwhitney/> <http://members.xoom.com/bwhitney/EliWhitney/> From: [email protected] Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 01:23:25 EDT Subject: Re: I hope someone can help me To: [email protected] Dear Beth: Three questions. First, can you supply a date or time frame for the existence of this H. M. Whitney? Second, can you suggest a place - a town, a county, where the coal company was located? Third, is there anything at all that might help with the two initials H and M. Are there any children with names that begin with these initials? We really need some more help from you before we can discover whether or not we can help you. Allan E. Green From: [email protected] Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 1:43:40 -0500 Subject: Sarah Crumpton/Joel Whitney To: [email protected] In answer to the person who inquired about Sarah Crumpton, who married Joel Whitney, I extracted the following material from The Genealogical History of Freeman, Maine: Joel Whitney married 27 Sept 1836 in Farmington, Maine, Sarah Ramsdell Crumpton. She was born 25 Mar 1802 in Farmington, Maine, the daughter of Abner and Jerusha (Collins) Ramsdell. This source says she died in Phillips, Maine, but I have another source that says she died in Plymouth, Maine. I haven't yet verified any of this information. While on this subject, Joel Whitney is said to have married third, Betsey Chase in Trinity, Maine in 1840. I have tried unsuccessfully to identify which Betsey Chase this was. I am also trying to locate where Trinity, Maine was or is. Can anyone help me to find Trinity, Maine? Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 11:32:20 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: WHITNEY Extracts from the NEHGR, Part 6 To: [email protected] Dear WRG: More interesting and useful tidbits: ===================================================================== ======= Brown, David H., "Dea. Simon Stone of Watertown, Mass., and Some of His Descendants," _NEHGR_, vol. LIII (1899), pp. 345-350. [pp. 349-350] 4. SIMON-3 STONE (Simon-2, Simon-1) ... He married Sarah Farnsworth, daughter of Matthias Farnsworth of Groton, about 1683. Children: ... iv. Mary, b. about 1692; m. Abraham Whitney. They lived in Stowe. ... ===================================================================== ======= Bernard C. Steiner, "The Descendants of John Parmalee," _NEHGR_, vol. LIII (1899), pp. 405-411. [pp. 406-407] 4. SERGEANT JOHN-3 PARMELEE (John-2, John-1) ... married June 29, 1681, Mary, daughter of Nicholas Mason ... Children of John and Mary Parmelee were: ... vi. Rebecca, b. 1695; m. Benjamin Whitney of Wallingford. ... ===================================================================== ======= Hoag, Ruth Wood, "Watertown Fidelity Men," _NEHGR_, vol. LIV (1900), p. 86. At a County Court held at Charlestown, Dec. 18, 1677. A list of the names of about 80 of the inhabitants of Watertowne that tooke the oath of fidelity before Capt. Mason in December, '77, was returned to this Court and is on file. _Middlesex County Court Records, vol. 3, p. 306. ... Joseph Whitny. ... ===================================================================== ======= Peck, Thomas Bellows, "Records of the First Church of Rockingham, Vt.," _NEHGR_, vol. LIV (1900), pp. 197-202, 289-300; vol. LV (1901), pp. 425-431. [p. 201] [1776] August 4. Propounded Agnis Whitney, having formerly own'd the Covenant. August 25. Receiv'd Agnis Whitney into the Chh. Sept. 1. Baptiz'd Moses Agnes & Lucretia Children of Ezra & Agnis Whitney. ... Sept. 15. ... Baptiz'd ... Elisabeth Daughter of John & Elizabeth Whitney. ... [p. 293] [1781] May 31. Married Ebenezer Stoell & Parmela Whitney of Rockingham. [p. 296] [1783] Sept 7 Baptiz'd Abigail Daughter of John & Whitney [p. 429] Catalogue of Such as Were Received into the Chh First Gather'd October 27, 1773 1775 & 1776 Agnis Whitney, Ebenezer & Rachel Albee ===================================================================== ======= Eldredge, Zoeth S., "Dunton Family," _NEHGR_, vol. LIV (1900), pp. 286-288. [pp. 286-287] 4. SAMUEL-4 DUNTON (Samuel-3, Samuel-2, Samuel-1) ... married ... Deborah, daughter of Benjamin and Mary (Read) Pierce ... Children: ... iii. Rebecca, b. in Woburn, Dec. 20, 1726; m. Capt. Jonathan Whitney. ... ===================================================================== ======= Bent, Allen H., "Lewis Allen of Watertown Farms and His Descendants," _NEHGR_, vol. LIV (1900), pp. 396-401. [pp. 400-401] EBENEZER-3 ALLEN (Ebenezer-2, Lewis-1), born October 31, 1722, Weston, died January 26, 1812 aged 89, Lancaster ... moved to Lancaster in 1746 .... He married, March 30, 1742, Tabitha, born May 12, 1722, daughter of Jacob and Tabitha (Whitney) Fulham of Watertown. Children, i. and ii. born in Weston, the others in Lancaster (Clinton): i. Elisha-4, b. 1743; d. 1744. ii. Elisha, b. Dec. 10, 1744; d. in Princeton, Mass., July 16, 1793. iii. Tabitha, b. Jan. 27, 1747; d. unmarried Dec. 17, 1833, aged 88. iv. Mary, b. Jan. 14, 1749; m. April 21, 1773, Titus Wilder of what is now Clinton. v. Ebenezer, b. April 12, 1751, d. in 1778 or 1779. April 18, 1779, "Thankful Dr of ye Widow Mary Allen" was baptized. He m. in 1772 (intention filed July 30) Mary Henry of Lunenburg. Four children recorded in Lancaster: 1. Ebenezer, b. Oct. 30, 1773. 2. Thankful, b. Jul 30 (bap. Aug. 6), 1775. 3. Molly, b. May 2, 1777. 4. Thankful, b. 1779. vi. Amos, b. Aug. 1, 1753; d. at Fort Ann, N. Y., in 1851, aged 98. vii. Abel, b. April 26, 1756; d. in Moriah, N. Y., April, 1841. viii. Jacob, b. Feb. 13, 1758; d. in Newfane, Vt., Jan. 30, 1842. ix. Thankful, b. March 31, 1760; d. May 9, 1761. x. Samuel, b. June 28, 1762. ===================================================================== ======= Penhallow, D. P., "Woodbridge Record," _NEHGR_, vol. LIV (1900), pp. 401-403. [p. 401] In the course of certain genealogical investigations which the author is making, some errors have been noted in the Woodbridge Record as published by the Hon. Donald C. Mitchell. Also certain facts not contained in that valuable publication, but essential to the completion of certain branches of the family then dealt with, have been brought to my notice. It seems proper and desirable that such should be placed on record for future reference. In the Woodbridge Record [footnote: Pp. 54 and 91 (123)] it is stated that Major John married Mary Whiting. As known to the family of the author's wife--herself a direct descendant of the first Rev. John Woodbridge--this is an error, since it is known that he married Mary Whitney of Watertown, Mass., as will also be found stated in the History of Hadley [footnote: This fact is elsewhere confirmed in the Record (p. 91), where we find (262) one of the children of Lucy and James Doane to be named Mary Whitney, after her grandmother, whose name appears on the same page (123) as Mary _Whitney_.]. ... ===================================================================== ======= Enjoy! Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 11:44:18 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: WHITNEY Extracts from the NEHGR, Part 7 To: [email protected] Dear WRG: More interesting and useful tidbits: ===================================================================== ======= Fogg, John S. H., "Defences of Houses in Maine," _NEHGR_, vol. LIV (1900), pp. 408-410. [p. 410: II. At Kittery, 1722] 36th Joseph Mitchel And that ye Inhabitants & familys from Joseph Billings to John Whitney Inclusively Lodge therein. ===================================================================== ======= Stearns, Ezra S., "Some Ancient Dunstable History," _NEHGR_, vol. LV (1901), pp. 186-188. [p. 188] In their memory of the many disasters that befell the frontier settlement, the sad events of 1706 are definitely stated. "About thirty nine Years ago * * there was eleven Persons killed & three captivated": at this time Nathaniel Blanchard, Lydia his wife and one child, Hannah Blanchard, Elizabeth wife of John Cummings, Jr., and Rachel Galusha, and several soldiers at the two garrisons, were slain. The witnesses recall three captives, while the accredited annals preserve the names of four who were captured at this time. They were Richard Hassell, Samuel Butterfield, the wife of Lieut. Butterfield, and Samuel Whitney, senior. ===================================================================== ======= Clarke, George Kulm, "Marriages Recorded by the Ministers of the First Church in Needham, Massachusetts," _NEHGR_, vol. LV (1901), pp. 258-267, 391-400. [p. 259] Nov : 17 . 1743 . . . David Whitney was married to Mehetabel Parker. [p. 262] Oct : 27 . 1757 . Josiah Ware was married to the Widow Mehetabel Whitney both of Needham. [p. 265] Marh. 17th 1773. Jason Whitney of Natick was Married to Lois Pratt of Needham. [p. 393] Sepr. 28th 1780. Samuel Whitney was Married to Asenath Baker, both of Needham. [p. 396] No. 36. May 28, 1797 Married Mr. John Whitney, of Boston, to Miss Clarissa Slack of Needham. [p. 397] No. 52. January 1, 1799. Married Mr. Israel Whitney, to Miss Mary Fuller, both of Needham. [p. 399] No. 109. June 16, 1808. Married Mr Jesse Franklin, to Miss Fanny Whitney, both of Needham. ===================================================================== ======= Kendall, Marion A., "John Daniell of Mendon, Mass., and Some of His Descendants," _NEHGR_, vol. LV (1901), pp. 317-321. [p. 319] ABRAHAM-2 DANIELL (John-1) [son of John and Sarah (Durham) Daniell] of Mendon and Uxbridge, was born in Sherborn, April 1, 1710. His intention of marriage, to Hannah Whitney of Uxbridge, is recorded in 1735. He married a wife Abigail, before 1742. He was a physician, and removed from Mendon to Uxbridge, where he resided to his death, Dec. 16, 1752. His widow, Abigail Daniels, removed to Douglas, Mass.; and later to Dutchess Co., N. Y., before 1765. In Worcester Deeds is recorded a deed from Dr. John Daniels of Oblong, Dutchess Co., N. Y., dated June 29, 1765, to Joseph Reed of Uxbridge, of "land in Uxbridge which I had from my honored father, Dr. Abraham Daniels." ===================================================================== ======= Clarke, George K., "Needham Marriages, 1720-1798," _NEHGR_, vol. LVI (1902), pp. 30-39. [p. 33] 106. May 1, 1788. William Alden and Susanna Whitney of East Sudbury. ... by Josiah Newell, Esq. ===================================================================== ======= Stearns, Ezra S., "The Descendants of Dea. Zachary Fitch of Reading," _NEHGR_, vol. LVI (1902), pp. 41-47. [p. 44] 46. ZACHARIAH-5 FITCH, b. April 1, 1734, was son of Zachariah-4 (29) [(Samuel-3, Samuel-2, Zachary-1)]. He was know as Capt. Zachariah Fitch of Groton, and his name is frequently met in the annals of his time. He served in the French and Indian Wars, and was a lieutenant and later a captain in the Revolution, and distinguished in civil affairs. He m. Oct. 15, 1755, Rebecca Davis, b. Aug. 2, 1736, dau. of Eleazer and Rebecca (Chandler) Davis of Concord; m. second, Aug. 4, 1763, Lydia Tuck; m. third, Feb. 3, 1767, Sibyl Lakin, b. Oct. 16, 1739, dau. of John and Lydia (Parker) Lakin of Groton, who d. Oct. 11, 1806; and he m. fourth, May 11, 1809, Elizabeth Tuttle. He d. Sept. 2, 1820; she d. Jan. 5, 1823. Children, by first wife: i. Rebecca-6, b. 1759; m. 1779, Benjamin Whitney, b. Pepperell, Oct. 27, 1741, son of Josiah and Abigail (Nutting) Whitney. Lived in Pepperell. She d. June 23, 1793. ... ===================================================================== ======= Brown, Francis Henry, "List of Capt. Timothy Hamant's (Mass.) Company, 1762," _NEHGR_, vol. LVI (1902), p. 74. An alphabital List of Capt. Timothy Hamants Companey in Col. Saltanstalls Regt. Crownpoint July 20th 1762 ... Mens Name age Plase of Resadence Abnor Whitney 18 Roxbry Jonas Whitney 50 Roxbry Joseph Whitney 23 Medfeild ===================================================================== ======= Enjoy! Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 From: "Henry M. Whitney" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: I hope someone can help me Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 11:46:23 -0400 To: [email protected] Allan: Regarding your message to Beth, I responded directly to her and did not include rootsweb.com as cc. My grandfather, Henry Melville Whitney of Boston was involved with Dominion Iron & Steel in Nova Scotia shipping coal to New England. None of his siblings or descendants are connected with the individual Beth is trying to locate. We determined that through an exchange of messages yesterday. As a matter of practice, if a message is addressed to rootsweb, as this one was, what is the preferred response: to the sender with cc: to rootsweb.com? Obviously, if I had done it you would have been spared sending this message. It appears I've answered my own question and am sending a cc: of this message to rootsweb.com. If you have anything to add, please let me know. Henry M. Whitney ([email protected]) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, October 24, 1998 1:24 AM Subject: Re: I hope someone can help me >Dear Beth: > >Three questions. First, can you supply a date or time frame for the existence >of this H. M. Whitney? Second, can you suggest a place - a town, a county, >where the coal company was located? Third, is there anything at all that >might help with the two initials H and M. Are there any children with names >that begin with these initials? > >We really need some more help from you before we can discover whether or not >we can help you. > >Allan E. Green > > From: [email protected] Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:52:42 EDT Subject: Re: I hope someone can help me To: [email protected] In a message dated 10/24/98 9:48:44 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << As a matter of practice, if a message is addressed to rootsweb, as this one was, what is the preferred response: to the sender with cc: to rootsweb.com? Obviously, if I had done it you would have been spared sending this message. >> The opinion of the listowner (me) is respond to the list. That will take care of the poster getting the same answer from 20 people over a 4 day period. Also other folks on the list will most likely want to hear the answer. Michael Whitney From: [email protected] (Norris) Subject: Sarah (Hagar) Whitney Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 19:27:14 GMT To: [email protected] Hi: Did Sarah (Hagar) Whitney die in 1722 or 1746?? Nathaniel marred once or twice?? The Eli Whitney page, here: http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/biography/eli.html Has: Nathaniel-3 WHITNEY, son of John-2 and Ruth (REYNOLDS) WHITNEY, b. 1 Feb 1647, Watertown, MA, d.7 Jan 1733, Weston, MA. He m.(1) 12 Mar 1673/4, Watertown, MA, Sarah HAGAR, daughter of William and Mary (BEMIS) HAGAR, b. 1 Sep 1651, Watertown, MA, d. 20 Jul 1722, Weston, MA. He m.(2) Sarah -----, b. ca. 1658, d. 7 May 1746, Weston, MA. He had eight children, all by his first wife. However, the main Whitney data base has: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gumby/cgi-bin/igmget.cgi/n=Whitney?I00022 Sarah Hagar ID: I00022 Sex: F Born: 3 Sep 1651 Died: 7 May 1746 in Weston, Middlesex Co. Massachusetts ????? Norris -- Silver Bullet <[email protected]> Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html --------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 17:07:54 -0700 From: "Patricia A. Whitney-Jones" <[email protected]> Subject: apology To: [email protected] Sorry group...recently posted a message and wasn't thinking clearly (obviously). One message was suppose to go to someone who e-mailed me directly with a Whitney question. And.....I forgot to turn off my signature, etc. etc. before sending a message to the WDG et al. Sorry!!! Patricia Whitney-Jones Patricia Whitney-Jones {Lackie/Hoopes} San Diego, California http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/h/i/Patricia-A-WhitneyJones/index.html [my niece) http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/o/w/Karen--Howell/ LACKIE*LAVIGNE*SANDIFORD*WHITNEY*REID*PERRY*TYLER*WARNER* FROST***BULLEN*STAATS*MAXWELL*CROCKETT*MCCRONE* HOFFECKER*NAUDAIN*PEACH*ROBERTS***HOOPES*JONES From: [email protected] Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:43:38 EDT Subject: Whitney list To: [email protected] Hi Folks, I get requests on occasion for a list of the WHITNEY-LIST members. I have the current members. I just ran the list today for someone so if anyone elsee would like a copy of the members as of 10/24/98 let me know and I'll forward it out. Michael Whitney Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 21:53:39 -0500 From: "Richard L. Holmes, Jr." <[email protected]> Subject: unsubscribe References: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------19E066AEC893E5F3389B1B31 --------------19E066AEC893E5F3389B1B31 begin: vcard fn: Richard Holmes n: Holmes;Richard email;internet: [email protected] version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------19E066AEC893E5F3389B1B31-- Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:26:30 -0400 From: Cynthia Abbott <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Whitney list References: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Please send me the Whitney list for Maine and Mass. Thanks Cynthia [email protected] wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I get requests on occasion for a list of the WHITNEY-LIST members. I have the > current members. I just ran the list today for someone so if anyone elsee > would like a copy of the members as of 10/24/98 let me know and I'll forward > it out. > > Michael Whitney From: [email protected] (Norris) Subject: Re: Sarah (Hagar) Whitney Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 06:00:21 GMT References: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] On Sat, 24 Oct 1998 19:27:14 GMT, you wrote: > >Hi: > >Did Sarah (Hagar) Whitney die in 1722 or 1746?? Nathaniel marred once >or twice?? Allen Green asked me to forward this response to the list: To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Sarah (Hagar) Whitney From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:31:31 EDT Dear Norris: I have to agree with the data on Robert Ward's site. The crux of the matter as I see it is the two entries in the death records for Weston, Middlesex, MA. The first one (on page 386) shows the death of Sarah Whitney, wife of Nathaniel, Sen., died ____,____, 1722 - and Robert has found the more precise date of 20 July in another source (I don't know what, but he would tell you if you asked). The second entry (on p. 80) says Mrs. Sarah Whitney, wid.(ow) Mr. Nath[anie]ll, died May 7, 1746, age 88y. That puts her as born ca 1658, whereas the first Sarah (Hagar) Whitney was born in 1651. It's too bad no one has yet found a record of the second marriage between Nathaniel-3 and the second Sarah, but logic would suggest that she was a widow if she were born in 1658 and married Nathaniel sometime after 1722. I hope this helps. We do have a small problem with some of the entries in the Whitney general database, as it has been collected together from a number of different submitters, and occasionally a problem like this crops up. We do try to fix them as we find them, as long as it is VERY clear what is accurate and not just the result of two interpretations of possible data that conflict. Let me know if we can help in any other way. Allan E. Green -- Silver Bullet <[email protected]> Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html --------------------------------------- From: [email protected] (Norris) Subject: Re: I hope someone can help me Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 06:06:03 GMT References: <000401bdff65$ac802160$ed2a08d1@authoriu> To: [email protected] On Sat, 24 Oct 1998 11:46:23 -0400, you wrote: >As a matter of practice, if a message is addressed to rootsweb, >as this one was, what is the preferred response: to the >sender with cc: to rootsweb.com? Obviously, if I had done it you >would have been spared sending this message. If others would benefit from the response, by all means respond to the list. If it's more a one-to-one message, ie thanks, etc.. send to the recipient. Most genealogy answers to genealogy questions should be sent to the list, as others may have an interest, or have some input, either additional or contradicting info. Most thanks and the like should be personal E-Mails. There's normally no need for two mails. Norris -- Silver Bullet <[email protected]> Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html --------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 08:17:56 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Sarah (Hagar) Whitney To: [email protected] At 07:27 PM 10/24/98 GMT, you wrote: > >Hi: > >Did Sarah (Hagar) Whitney die in 1722 or 1746?? Nathaniel marred once >or twice?? > > >The Eli Whitney page, here: > >http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/biography/eli.html > >Has: > >Nathaniel-3 WHITNEY, son of John-2 and Ruth (REYNOLDS) WHITNEY, b. 1 >Feb 1647, Watertown, MA, d.7 Jan 1733, Weston, MA. He m.(1) 12 Mar >1673/4, Watertown, MA, Sarah HAGAR, daughter of William and Mary >(BEMIS) HAGAR, b. 1 Sep 1651, Watertown, MA, d. 20 Jul 1722, Weston, >MA. He m.(2) Sarah -----, b. ca. 1658, d. 7 May 1746, Weston, MA. He >had eight children, all by his first wife. > > >However, the main Whitney data base has: > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gumby/cgi-bin/igmget.cgi/n=Whitney?I00022 > >Sarah Hagar > > ID: I00022 > Sex: F > Born: 3 Sep 1651 > Died: 7 May 1746 in Weston, Middlesex Co. Massachusetts > > >????? > > >Norris >-- >Silver Bullet <[email protected]> >Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html >--------------------------------------- Norris, See the discussion of this problem at: <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/correct.html#Sarah1746> Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 12:06:21 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Sarah (Hagar) Whitney References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> To: [email protected] At 06:00 AM 10/25/98 GMT, Norris wrote: >On Sat, 24 Oct 1998 19:27:14 GMT, you wrote: > >> >>Hi: >> >>Did Sarah (Hagar) Whitney die in 1722 or 1746?? Nathaniel marred once >>or twice?? > >Allen Green asked me to forward this response to the list: > >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: Sarah (Hagar) Whitney >From: [email protected] >Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:31:31 EDT > >Dear Norris: > >I have to agree with the data on Robert Ward's site. The crux of the >matter as I see it is the two entries in the death records for Weston, >Middlesex, MA. The first one (on page 386) shows the death of Sarah >Whitney, wife of Nathaniel, Sen., died ____,____, 1722 - and Robert >has found the more precise date of 20 July in another source (I don't >know what, but he would tell you if you asked). The second entry (on >p. 80) says Mrs. Sarah Whitney, wid.(ow) Mr. Nath[anie]ll, died May 7, >1746, age 88y. That puts her as born ca 1658, whereas the first Sarah >(Hagar) Whitney was born in 1651. It's too bad no one has yet found a >record of the second marriage between Nathaniel-3 and the second >Sarah, but logic would suggest that she was a widow if she were born >in 1658 and married Nathaniel sometime after 1722. > >I hope this helps. We do have a small problem with some of the >entries in the Whitney general database, as it has been collected >together from a number of different submitters, and occasionally a >problem like this crops up. We do try to fix them as we find them, as >long as it is VERY clear what is accurate and not just the result of >two interpretations of possible data that conflict. > >Let me know if we can help in any other way. > >Allan E. Green > > >-- >Silver Bullet <[email protected]> >Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html >--------------------------------------- The more accurate date is 29, not 20, July 1722. The entry says Sarah WHITNY (note spelling variant), wf. of Nath[anie]ll, died July 29, 1722. The reference is Weston Vital Records, p. 10. See: <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/mass/weston.html> The entry on p. 80 says Mrs. Sarah WHITNEY, widow of Mr. Nath[anie]ll WHITNEY, died May 7, 1746, aged 88 years. Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 16:58:59 -0800 Subject: Sarah Louise (Baker) Whitney To: [email protected] I'm trying to find information on Sarah Louise (Baker) Whitney.She was born approx 1846 in New York, to Ephriam Baker,and Nancy(Head)Baker. The Whitney she married is said to have been a cousin of hers, and he is also believed to be kin to Eli Whitney. Sarah appears on the 1880 Yankton,South Dakota Census as, S.L. Whitney,age 34..She appears in the household of her mother, Nancy Baker, age 64. Please, any help is greatly appreciated. I'm trying to find out more about Sarah, and trying to find out WHICH one of the Whitney's she married...and how he fits in with the Eli Whitney family. Thank you in advance. JudyAnn [email protected] From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:56:11 GMT Subject: CALLING Carol Whitney of Watertown ! To: [email protected] Carol, I have some information for you re. your grandfather from Cheshire. I have your e-mail as <[email protected]> from our exchanges of May this year, but I keep getting bounces from PHB with "communications failure". I have also tried <[email protected]> which I believe is an address you also had at one time, but no luck [not known]. I can't tell from the WRG Mail List whether you are currently subscribed, but if you get this, please get in touch. Michael - if convenient perhaps you could let me know if any of the subscribers match my subject line! Apologies to everyone else! John From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:15:08 -0500 Subject: Josiah & Elizabeth (Harding) Whitney To: [email protected] Hello, again Cynthia, Do you have any info on Josiah or Elizabeth Harding Whitney, like where they were born or where they lived? How about Silas or Elvira Lane Whitney? Any idea where they were born? Ken Whitney Silver Spring, MD Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 22:01:38 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Whitney <[email protected]> Subject: Augusta Georgia: metro@ugusta: Mr. Charles-10 Whitney 10/26/98 (fwd) To: [email protected] A grand old Mr. Whitney (age 97 1/2) joins our ancestors. =========================== http://www.augustachronicle.com/stories/102698/obi_038-1354.001.shtml Mr. Charles Barry Whitney Retired cotton broker Web posted Oct. 26 at 12:25 AM Mr. Charles B. Whitney of 1215 Monte Sano Ave., a cotton factor and broker who had retired as chairman of the board of S.M. Whitney Co. Inc., died Sunday, Oct. 25, 1998, at Kentwood Nursing Home. The funeral will be at 2 p.m. Tuesday at First Presbyterian Church of Augusta with Dr. Raymond Ortlund and the Rev. Robert Daniel officiating. Burial will be at 1 p.m. Tuesday in Magnolia Cemetery. Mr. Whitney, a native of Augusta, was a direct descendant of Eli Whitney, inventor of the cotton gin, had been a cotton broker from 1924 to 1996 and was a member of the Cotton Warehouse Association of America. He was a 1918 graduate of the Academy of Richmond County and a 1921 graduate of the University of Georgia. He taught and coached at the Academy of Richmond County from 1921 to 1924. He served on the boards of directors of Realty Savings Bank, Georgia Railroad and Banking Co., the Augusta division of C & S National Bank and the Augusta Free School. He was a member of the Augusta Country Club. He was a member of the First Presbyterian Church of Augusta, where he was a Bible and Sunday school teacher, and he was a member of the Gideons International. Survivors include his wife, Anna Alexander Whitney; a son, C. Barry Whitney, Augusta; and two stepgrandchildren. Memorials may be made to the Augusta Christian School, 313 Baston Road, Martinez, or to the Gideons International, P.O. Box 14774, Augusta, GA 30919. The family will receive friends from 7 to 9 p.m. today at Platt's Funeral Home, Crawford Avenue. ========================================== Mr. Charlie Whitney [John-1, Jonathan-2, John-3, James-4, Micah-5, Mason-6, Erastus-7. Seymour-8 (who established the S. M. Whitney Co.), Charles-9 Erastus, Charles-10 Barry] was born on March 24, 1901. His wife and his son, Charles Barry-11 Whitney, Jr., live in Augusta, GA. Charlie's son C. Barry-11, who now runs the S.M. Whitney Co., is my second cousin: My grandfather, John-9 Barry Whitney, was the youngest brother of Charles Erastus Whitney who was the oldest of the six sons of S.M. Myron Edward Whitney (Ted), who is also a member of the Whitney-L list, is the grandson of Eddy Russell Whitney, S.M.'s third son. John Barry-11 Whitney III North Augusta, SC [email protected] From: "Marion Leska`" <[email protected]> Subject: Who is Doty? Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 20:28:26 -0800 To: [email protected] I was looking up something in my Philbrook line and saw the following: Sally (Burgess), born 1810 married Doty L. Whitney of Belmont, Maine. (She was the daughter of Sarah (Philbrook) and Ezra (or Edward) Burgess. Sarah was sister to a great,great,great grandfather of mine, Phineas Philbrook.) Which Whitney family is he from? Marion Whitney Leska From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 8:22:41 -0500 Subject: Whitneys of Moose River, Maine To: [email protected] Hi Cynthia, I think I have been able to connect your husband's Whitney family to the family tree, and we are very distant cousins. His ancestors should be: John1, Benjamin2, Nathaniel3, Nathaniel4, Josiah5, Silas6, Nancy7. The information is from Frederick Clifton Pierce's Descendants of John Whitney of Watertown, Massachusetts. Josiah and family appear on page 229 under #1587 Josiah. Silas and family appear on page 408 under #3453 Silas. Nancy's descendants are no documented. If you are unfamiliar with Pierce's work or it is unavailable to you, let me know. I can be of more help. Just beware that everything Pierce says must be checked for accuracy through primary sources. Ken Whitney Silver Spring, MD Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:31:17 -0600 From: "Richard L. Holmes, Jr." <[email protected]> Organization: The University of Texas Medical School - Houston Subject: unsubscribe References: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2524F6113EF1BBECCE2F8D26 unsubscribe --------------2524F6113EF1BBECCE2F8D26 begin: vcard fn: Richard Holmes, Jr., M.S. n: Holmes, Jr., M.S.;Richard org: University of Texas Medical School - Houston adr: Department of Radiology;;6431 Fannin Room 6.166;Houston;Texas;77030;USA email;internet: [email protected] title: Medical Physicist - Clinical Instructor tel;work: (713)500-7673 tel;fax: (713)500-7676 version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------2524F6113EF1BBECCE2F8D26-- From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:58:42 EST Subject: Re: I hope someone can help me To: [email protected] I have been searching the Whitney's from Nova Scotia Canada. My great grandfather was Chapman Whitney but I do not have any other information on him. I do not remember where the Dominion was. I am not sure if it was in Canada or in Boston Massachusetts. I did receive a response from a decendent of H.M. Whitney but there is no link to my family. Thank you Beth Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:25:50 -0800 From: Carole Schreiber <[email protected]> Subject: Re: I hope someone can help me References: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Beth: Where was Dominion Coal Co located?? Carole [email protected] wrote: > I have a name that I thought maybe someone could help me with. The name is > H.M. Whitney. He was the president of the Dominion Coal Co. Does anyone > have any information on him or his decendents. Any help would be appreciated. > Beth > Searching the Whitney name but coming up empty on my family. From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:30:38 -0500 Subject: Trinity, Maine To: [email protected] Hi Jan, Thanks for the search for Trinity, Maine. Now that I know it doesn't and didn't exist, I'll look elsewhere. Probably was somewhere with a similar sounding name. Ken Whitney Silver Spring, MD From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:39:18 -0500 Subject: Benjamin Morse Whitney To: [email protected] Hi Gene, Nice to meet you. I don't have a clue as to why Benjamin went to New Mexico. I'm having the same problem with some members of my line, trying to figure out why they went elsewhere. Do you have the George Burbank Sedgeley work on the Whitneys? If my memory serves me correctly, there was quite a biographical sketch on Benjamin in it. If you don't have it, I'll dig it out and check on my memory. As I recall, it had the same picture in it that you have on your web site. Ken Whitney Silver Spring, MD From: "Eleanore Dilello" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: I hope someone can help me Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:58:49 -0500 To: [email protected] Hello: I am have some Canadian Whitneys who came to Canada in the 1800's from Mass to VT to NY to Canada. They were in Brighton Ontario Canada in the late 1800's but could have spread out to Nova Scotia. Do you know anything else about your gg like when he was born and where exactly? eleanore -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 11:05 AM Subject: Re: I hope someone can help me >I have been searching the Whitney's from Nova Scotia Canada. My great >grandfather was Chapman Whitney but I do not have any other information on >him. I do not remember where the Dominion was. I am not sure if it was in >Canada or in Boston Massachusetts. I did receive a response from a decendent >of H.M. Whitney but there is no link to my family. >Thank you >Beth > > Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:12:03 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Josiah & Elizabeth (Harding) Whitney To: [email protected] At 03:15 PM 10/26/98 -0500, [email protected] wrote: >Hello, again Cynthia, > Do you have any info on Josiah or Elizabeth Harding Whitney, like where > they were born or where they lived? How about Silas or Elvira Lane >Whitney? Any idea where they were born? > > Ken Whitney > Silver Spring, MD Josiah-5 WHITNEY [Nathaniel-4, Nathaniel-3, Benjamin-2, John-1], b. 1752, Biddeford, ME, d. 24 Feb 1837, Alfred, ME, m. (2) 16 Sep 1775, Elizabeth HARDING, b. 1749, d. 26 Apr 1841, Alfred, ME, dau. of Seth and Elizabeth (WILKIT) HARDING. For his family, see the following URL: <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/john/john67.html#id11232>. They had son Silas-6 WHITNEY, b. 1779, d. 1848, m. Elvira LANE, b. 1799, d. 1896. They had daughter Nancy Bradboury Lane-7 WHITNEY, b. 1831. All the above is from the WITNEY11.GED database file. I cannot confirm any of the above from other sources. There are conflicting data in the GEDCOM, indicating that the first wife did not die until 1807. Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 23:48:43 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Benjamin Morse Whitney To: [email protected] At 12:39 PM 10/27/98 -0500, [email protected] wrote: >Hi Gene, > Nice to meet you. I don't have a clue as to why Benjamin went to New >Mexico. I'm having the same problem with some members of my line, trying >to figure out why they went elsewhere. Do you have the George Burbank >Sedgeley work on the Whitneys? If my memory serves me correctly, there >was quite a biographical sketch on Benjamin in it. If you don't have it, >I'll dig it out and check on my memory. As I recall, it had the same >picture in it that you have on your web site. > > Ken Whitney > Silver Spring, MD You might be interested in the following web page: <http://www.erols.com/rlward1/whitney/biography/josephc.html> It is a biography of Joseph Clement WHITNEY, son of Benjamin Morse WHITNEY. Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:00:17 EST Subject: Whitneys in Nova Scotia To: [email protected] Hello, I am so glad to see so many Whitneys in Canada. I was beginning to think my husband's great grandfather Reuben Henry Whitney(born 1871) was the only WHITNEY from Nova Scotia. At some point he was in Melrose Massachusetts where his son Russell Whitney was born in 1896. Reuben died in 1928 in Hampden, ME. His wife's first name was Mary Ann - also born in Nova Scotia in 1875. She died in Hampden Me in 1925. I have no other information on her at all. Reuben had a brother named Arthur born in Nova Scotia in 1868. He married in 1899 to a Flora Paterson. Arthur died in 1938 in Maine. Arthur and Rueben had another brother Elisher who married Mary E. "Lida" Libby in 1905 in Maine. Elisher is buried in Glenburne, Maine. He died in 1929. His two sons Clyde and Oscar reportedly never married. Reuben and Mary Ann had two other children Anny Mae who married Wilbur Hamlin in Hamden, ME on January 2, 1909. Reuben and Mary adopted a son Lawrence Henry Howard who was a cousin of some sort who never married. I would like to find out where in Nova Scotia Reuben was born. And where he and Mary Ann were married. All help is appreciated. Thanks Lynn Whitney From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:55:49 -0500 Subject: Need help finding loaner microfilm... To: [email protected] I have come to the conclusion that there are many Whitney lines undocumented in VT (including my own). The best course of action for me is to reconstruct all the Whitneys I can from the VT vital records microfilm to get family groupings and perhaps find siblings of my Whitneys that will lead to their parents, etc. This method is very time consuming, but has worked very well for a couple other family lines I have been working on. I'll bet in the end there will be a lot of new info to add to the Whitney database. I am very willing to take on this project, but getting to the raw data is difficult since I work full time and cannot get to NEHGS in Boston to look at the microfilm very often. Here is my request: can anyone help me locate a copy of the VT vitals on microfilm that I can borrow for a month or 2? (I have access to a reader every day at lunch). Or has someone photocopied or hand transcribed all the records and can send me a copy to work into family groupings? I'd really like to work on this project to fill out the VT Whitney's lines, but it will take me years without daily access to the film. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks. -Denise Cross From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:02:55 EST Subject: Gettysburg - Whitney found To: [email protected] Hello Whitney folks In September I took a trip, and on the way home I stopped at Gettysburg. I had my video camera and just took various shots as I was in total awe of the whole place. The Soldier's Monument stands on the hill where Lincoln gave his address. Surrounding the monument are rows and rows of numbered stone markers. Also, on one side are long rows of a continuous marker, arched around, these bear many names. I just skimmed over some with my camera, to get the feel of it. But, the reason I mention this is because... This morning I was re-recording the video tape and therefore watching it. As I viewed the names on that flat stone arch, I realized that one of the few names I skimmed over was G H WHITNEY or C H WHITNEY, I was not terribly close when I filmed it, and I didn't realize it at the time, so I just passed over it. Even in "pause" mode I could not be certain what it read. There are numbers under the name, but I can not make out what they say. My intent was to then go into the visitor's center and get information explaining what it all meant. A fall, and resulting injury, prevented me from getting into the center. So I have no idea what the names and numbers on the stone meant. I hope that is of interest to someone, and maybe there is someone who can explain what might be written under the name, and the family of that particular Mr Whitney can get some information. Happy Hunting Jo Hogle From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:31:39 EST Subject: Re: Gettysburg - Whitney found To: [email protected] The letters and numbers indicate the regiment which that Whitney belonged to, such as 50 NY means 50th New York Engineers, for example. The huge white Pennsylvania monument down from the visitor's center has three or four Whitney soldiers' names inscribed on its bronze plaques. From: [email protected] (Norris) Subject: Re: Need help finding loaner microfilm... Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:46:05 GMT References: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:55:49 -0500, you wrote: >Here is my request: can anyone help me locate a copy of the VT vitals on >microfilm that I can borrow for a month or 2? (I have access to a reader >every day at lunch). Isn't there, both in book form and film form, a state-wide transcription of Vermont vitals similar to the Barbour collection for Connecticut?? For Conn, the book form lists by City, which is handy in many respects, because families are usually "bunched" together. The micro-film is an alphabetized card index (kind of like soundex cards), which is good for getting all Whitneys in the state in one group, but alphabetized. I haven't had much Vermont experience, but have used Barbour lots in Conn and thought Vermont had a similar record...?? Norris -- Silver Bullet <[email protected]> Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html --------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:51:23 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Need help finding loaner microfilm... References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> To: [email protected] At 03:46 PM 10/28/98 GMT, Norris wrote: >On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:55:49 -0500, you wrote: > >>Here is my request: can anyone help me locate a copy of the VT vitals on >>microfilm that I can borrow for a month or 2? (I have access to a reader >>every day at lunch). > >Isn't there, both in book form and film form, a state-wide >transcription of Vermont vitals similar to the Barbour collection for >Connecticut?? > >For Conn, the book form lists by City, which is handy in many >respects, because families are usually "bunched" together. The >micro-film is an alphabetized card index (kind of like soundex cards), >which is good for getting all Whitneys in the state in one group, but >alphabetized. > >I haven't had much Vermont experience, but have used Barbour lots in >Conn and thought Vermont had a similar record...?? > > >Norris > >-- >Silver Bullet <[email protected]> >Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html >--------------------------------------- Norris et al., Sorry, but such a compilation does not exist. Connecticut is unique in my experience to have all the vital records, church records, tombstone records, newspaper death and marriage notices, and all the probate cases centrally indexed. The microfilms can be ordered through your local LDS Family History Center, if that is more convenient for you, but not taken home. You have to examine them at the FHC. Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:26:52 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Whitneys in Nova Scotia To: [email protected] At 09:00 AM 10/28/98 EST, [email protected] wrote: >Hello, >I am so glad to see so many Whitneys in Canada. I was beginning to think my >husband's great grandfather Reuben Henry Whitney(born 1871) was the only >WHITNEY from Nova Scotia. At some point he was in Melrose Massachusetts where >his son Russell Whitney was born in 1896. Reuben died in 1928 in Hampden, ME. >His wife's first name was Mary Ann - also born in Nova Scotia in 1875. She >died in Hampden Me in 1925. I have no other information on her at all. > Reuben had a brother named Arthur born in Nova Scotia in 1868. He married in >1899 to a Flora Paterson. Arthur died in 1938 in Maine. Arthur and Rueben had >another brother Elisher who married Mary E. "Lida" Libby in 1905 in Maine. >Elisher is buried in Glenburne, Maine. He died in 1929. His two sons Clyde and >Oscar reportedly never married. >Reuben and Mary Ann had two other children Anny Mae who married Wilbur Hamlin >in Hamden, ME on January 2, 1909. Reuben and Mary adopted a son Lawrence Henry >Howard who was a cousin of some sort who never married. >I would like to find out where in Nova Scotia Reuben was born. And where he >and Mary Ann were married. >All help is appreciated. >Thanks >Lynn Whitney Lynn, You need to find a death certificate for each these siblings. It should give the date and place of birth, as well as the names of the parents of each. Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 22:29:04 From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Arthur E. Whitney To: [email protected] At 06:46 PM 10/28/98 -0500, [email protected] wrote: >Hi Bev, > I have good news and bad news. The good news is, I may have found Arthur >E. The bad news is, YOU have to prove it! > > In F.C Pierce's Whitney genealogy, page 470, we find #4240 Adams >Whitney8 (Jonathan7,Jonathan6,Joseph5, Benjamin4, Joseph3, John2, John1). >He was b. Marshfield, MA Sept 14, 1817. He married there 17 Jan 1846 >________. He died on 15 Oct 189?. Resided in Fitchburg, > Children: 3 children, then > iv. #7528 Arthur Eugene, b. 6 Jan 1852 > m. 1 July 1874, ____________ > resided, Fitchburg > Nothing more is stated about Arthur. > > This Arthur E. Whitney could be your ancestor, but who knows. I checked >Robert Ward's site (www.erols.com/rlward1) for Fitchburg vital records. >They did not seem to cover the period in question. You may want to ask >Robert about the availability of these records, as I really know nothing >about Fitchburg. > > Good luck, > Ken Whitney Ken, Bev, et al., Great work, Ken! >From the published Marshfield, MA, vital records: Adam Whitney, 29, yeoman, of W. Cambridge, b. in Cambridge, s. of Jonathan and Lucy Whitney, of W. Cambridge and Mary Ann Sylvester, 39, of Marshfield, b. in Marshfield, d. of Amasa and Deborah Sylvester of Marshfield. Registered Jan. 20, 1847, married Jan. 17, 1847. I cannot find the marriage of his parents, unless it is the one in 1793 in Lincoln with Jonathan WHITNEY and Lucy PARKS. I cannot find the birth of Adams/Adam WHITNEY, either. For Fitchburg families, probably you should be talking to Jeanne Muse <[email protected]>. Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:26:24 -0500 Subject: Moose River Whitneys To: [email protected] Hi Cynthia, There are several ways to get Pierce's book. You may find it at a good genealogy library in your area. Or, you may be able to get it through interlibrary loan at your public library. Or, you may purchase it, but it is rather expensive. It is available thru the Higginson Genealogical Book Co. in Salem, MA. Last time I looked it was around sixty dollars. I have another suggestion, however. You can get the information about the early ancestors on the Internet. I can give you the info about the remaining ancestors that are not at the site, but in the book. If you wish to do this, go to Robert Ward's page at www.erols.com/rlward1. Click on Genealogy, then on Whitney Family. Scroll down to his entry for six generations of the descendants of John and Elinor Whitney. This starts you with their children. Scroll down to Benjamin for his information, then keep clicking on children as they appear in the sequence I gave you. When you get to a dead end, re-contact me with where you are, and I will fill in the rest. Good luck, Ken Whitney From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:38:47 -0500 Subject: Benjamin Morse Whitney To: [email protected] Hi Gene, I found Sedgeley's work, and it does have some biographical info, but not a lot. It would probably be easier to fax it to you if that's possible. Otherwise, I'll find time to type it in when it's not too busy. Let me know your pleasure. As to our relationship, I descend through Ebenezer Whitney, who was Benjamin Morse Whitney's brother. I had found some info about Hannah Cobb, but only her birth info. I would love to know more. Can you fill me in or let me know the citations for the info so I can look at them myself? Regards Ken Whitney From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:46:59 -0500 Subject: Arthur E. Whitney To: [email protected] Hi Bev, I have good news and bad news. The good news is, I may have found Arthur E. The bad news is, YOU have to prove it! In F.C Pierce's Whitney genealogy, page 470, we find #4240 Adams Whitney8 (Jonathan7,Jonathan6,Joseph5, Benjamin4, Joseph3, John2, John1). He was b. Marshfield, MA Sept 14, 1817. He married there 17 Jan 1846 ________. He died on 15 Oct 189?. Resided in Fitchburg, Children: 3 children, then iv. #7528 Arthur Eugene, b. 6 Jan 1852 m. 1 July 1874, ____________ resided, Fitchburg Nothing more is stated about Arthur. This Arthur E. Whitney could be your ancestor, but who knows. I checked Robert Ward's site (www.erols.com/rlward1) for Fitchburg vital records. They did not seem to cover the period in question. You may want to ask Robert about the availability of these records, as I really know nothing about Fitchburg. Good luck, Ken Whitney From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 22:51:33 EST Subject: Re: Whitneys in Nova Scotia To: [email protected] I am glad to see that other people are finding their Whitney's in Nova Scotia. Unfortunatley the only information that I have on my great grandfather is his first name. I do not have a date of birth. Chapman Whitney was born in Nova Scotia and married Laura MacDougall also born in Nova Scotia. My grandmother was Dorothy Levine Whitney who was born in Canso Nova Scotia on November 9,1904. I will not give up the search. Beth From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:57:38 EST Subject: Re: Whitneys and Nova Scotia To: [email protected] Chapman was my great grandfather's first name. I am sorry if you misunderstood what I was saying. Beth From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:34:14 -0500 Subject: Vermont Whitneys To: [email protected] Hi Denise, I'll be glad to check Pierce tonight and get back to you. It appears that you and many others out there are unfamiliar with Pierce, so let me expound. In the late 1800's, Frederick Clifton Pierce attempted the complete American pedigree of the descendants of John and Elinor Whitney of Watertown, MA. I think I remember it was published in 1898. He did not achieve the complete pedigree, and also made many errors, which are still being identified as families are researched. Because of these errors, everything extracted from the work must be taken with a grain of salt and checked by primary sources whenever possible. Having said that, the work is a wonderful resource for navigating your way through the old family. Anyone who knows this work and has any further comment may feel free to jump in. For those interested in the work, you may find it in some of the very good genealogy research libraries around the country. Or, your local community library may be able to get it on interlibrary loan. It is out of print, but a COPY of it may be purchased for a handsome sum from the Higginson Genealogical Book Co. in Salem, MA. It is in their catalogue, and can be ordered by phone with a credit card. It takes awhile, because each book is made to order. Ken Whitney Silver Spring, MD From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 23:52:54 EST Subject: ZENO W WHITNEY To: [email protected] Hello all----- I'm seeking info on ZENO W. WHITNEY b 1815 in N.C. Prob son of either EBENEZER or RANSON (sons of EBENEZER & JEMIMA POWELL WHITNEY). ZENO lived all his adult life in Ga (mostly Macon area), had 8 dau & one son (ZENO W). Confirmation &/or addl info appreciated. Edmyself From: "Eleanore Dilello" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Whitney family genealogy in Vermont Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 00:07:43 -0500 To: [email protected] Dear Jeri: I went to this old library we have in Southport Ct The Pequot Library and in it they have a lot of genealogy books. There was a book there on the history on Guilford, VT. I looked specifically for the Whitneys there. I saw Samuel Whitney and an Ephraim Whitney. Should I look further next time I go?? I am still checking for my Whitneys there... eleanore D -- >>Can you tell me more about your Whitney family in Vermont? I have an >Abel >>and Ann Whitney in Guilford, Windham, VT in the late >1790's-1800's--don't >>know where they were from. My line, a son Oliver and Rachel (Sayre) >moved >>to N.J., but Abel had about 13 children that I've found in Guilford. >Could >>this be any connection to your Whitney line? Jeri >> >>---------- Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:35:56 [email protected] From: "Robert L. Ward" at <img src="/robertward.gif"> Subject: Re: Whitney family genealogy in Vermont To: [email protected] At 12:07 AM 10/30/98 -0500, Eleanore Dilello wrote: > > >Dear Jeri: > >I went to this old library we have in Southport Ct The Pequot Library >and in it they have a lot of genealogy books. There was a book there >on the history on Guilford, VT. I looked specifically for the >Whitneys there. I saw Samuel Whitney and an Ephraim Whitney. Should >I look further next time I go?? > >I am still checking for my Whitneys there... > >eleanore D >-- >>>Can you tell me more about your Whitney family in Vermont? I have >an >>Abel >>>and Ann Whitney in Guilford, Windham, VT in the late >>1790's-1800's--don't >>>know where they were from. My line, a son Oliver and Rachel (Sayre) >>moved >>>to N.J., but Abel had about 13 children that I've found in Guilford. >>Could >>>this be any connection to your Whitney line? Jeri >>> >>>---------- Eleanore, Please copy the information from this book on the WHITNEY Family and post it to the list, together with a bibliographic citation for the source. This would be a help to others on the list. Thanks! Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward <img src="/robertward.gif"> http://www.erols.com/rlward1/ 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 8:27:14 -0500 Subject: VT Whitneys To: [email protected] To: Denise Cross I'm sorry, Denise, but Pierce does not mention any of the relatives for whom you are searching. Good luck, Ken Whitney From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:54:29 -0500 Subject: Stockbridge, VT Whitneys? To: [email protected] I may have made a breakthrough last night on the trail og my Whitneys. I combed the vitals for any mention of James B as father. Surprise surprise, the mother was always listed as Myrtle/Myrtie. One rec had Myrtie L., so I suspect my Laura in the census is going by her middle name there. All the kids of these 2 were born in Rochester (where my ggrandfather was born according to all his kids records). The fun record that I now picked up (skipped last time through because the bride was not Laura) was James Bert's marriage record. Unlike his death rec (reported by confused survivirs, no doubt) his father was listed as James Packard. James B. was born in Stockbridge, but lived in Hancock at the time of the marriage. So, anyone know of a James Packard old enough to be a father in 1856 or7 or 8 (every rec for James B has slightly conflicting ages)? Also James B had the following children: Carleton Delano OCT1889, Sadie Elvira 26SEP1892, unnamed female 1AUG 1897, Magie (?) 5SEP1902, and listed as child #9 of mother: Leonson Linsley 30 APR 1904. All born in Rochester VT. Looking for any connections and more of the children. 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Whitney boundary="part0_909862146_boundary" To: [email protected] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_909862146_boundary --part0_909862146_boundary From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Arthur E. Whitney Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:27:01 EST Hi Ken, I've been doing more searching and you said I would have to prove that Arthur Eugene Whitney is indeed my great grandfather. So far this is what I have come up with. A marriage certificate from the City of Fitchburg. It is of my Grandfather John Smith Whitney groom. Parents Arthur E Whitney and Anna C Smith, married Mary E Lawrence [parents William F. Lawrence and Hattie Wright. Marriage took place December 5, 1908 date of record Feb 24, 1909 Vol C-10 Folio 12 I have several other records for John S Whitney. My cousin sent me this informationAlso, this news. I was kind of excited about it. Arthur Eugene Whitney, born Jan. 3, 1852 in Weston, MA Father: Adam Whitney, born in Watertown, MA Mother: Mary Ann, (no maiden name given), born in Marshfield, MA Residence for both: Weston, MA Date of Record: Feb. 6, 1852 I finally decided to write to the Weston, MA Town Clerk and ask. I figured Charles being born in 1875 and my grandmother, Mary being born in 1878, I would ask them to check between 1850 and 1860, which made Arthur about 23 at the time of Charles' birth and 26 at my grandmother's birth.. A small miracle - they were willing to do this. They billed me $5, but I was grateful they were willing to do it. Do you think this is proof enough or do I need more? Please let me know what you think as I sure will be happy to join the Whitney Group. Thanks Bev Hanner --part0_909862146_boundary--
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