Mailing List:2004-08-07 01, Re: Sarah Whitney, by Ron Kyser
Mailing List Archives > 2004-08-07 01, Re: Sarah Whitney, by Ron Kyser
From: R R Kyser <sorryken -at- att.net> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Sarah Whitney Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2004 03:53:23 -0500 In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Tracy, One place to start is with Sarah's baptism, which is shown along with 11 other Whitney christenings (don't her miss sister Olive just above the Whites) on Cliff Lamere's page: <a href="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~clifflamere/Bp/BP-Noble.htm">http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~clifflamere/Bp/BP-Noble.htm</a> "Nobletown" and Hillsdale are the same place, and were part of the Town of Claverack in Albany County in those days. (Hillsdale is its own Town in Columbia Co. today.) Note that her two sisters and three Whitney cousins, along with 13 neighbor children, were baptized 14 Aug 1786, the summer before the family made the trek to what's now Broome County. Her brother's biography, "Bingham's Land, Whitney's Town" by Marjory B. Hinman, only gives her three sentences, at her father's death in 1793: "Next to [Joshua Jr.] in age was sister Sarah who was eighteen. It appears that she "mothered" the others for she was greatly revered in the family, several of whom named their children for her. She was married in 1799 to William Guthrie, Jr. of Bainbridge, New York." The book is available here: <a href="http://www.bclibrary.info/Books2.htm">http://www.bclibrary.info/Books2.htm</a> Joshua Sr and his brother William (my ancestor) were in the Ninth Regiment of the Albany County Militia under Peter van Ness; Joshua was an officer and William a private. The figures in Robert Ketchum's recent book on Saratoga (<a href="http://tinyurl.com/4oqtl">http://tinyurl.com/4oqtl</a>) seem to imply the entire militia arrived near the end of the Second Battle there, in Oct. 1777. (Only three regiments actually saw action, not including the Ninth, but their real contribution may lie in the fact that there was no Third Battle of Saratoga.) Any actual proof Joshua or William were present may have gone up in smoke in 1911 when the Capitol in Albany caught fire. As to when these Whitneys first came to New York, Sung Bok Kim says in "Landlord and Tenant in Colonial New York" that "Records show that on December 4, 1754, Claverack tenants Robert Noble, Thomas Whitney, Jacob Bacon, Benjamin Lovejoy, and Joseph Elliot, together with 119 others, mostly New Englanders, applied to the General Court [of Massachusetts] for the lands that they claim to have improved. In another petition of the same date, they also requested the appointment of a commander for the district and expressed the desire to build a fort or blockhouse against the enemy Indians and French." (p. 320) It does not say whether their wives were with them in these early days. William's birth, when given, is usually 1754 in Connecticut. Maybe he was born in New York, maybe his mother stayed home in Connecticut, maybe the family moved right after his birth. Both Kim and Pierce describe the shooting death of Thomas in the rent war of 1766. Sarah's children are on the WRG site at <a href="http://www.whitneygen.org/archives/extracts/newbing.html">http://www.whitneygen.org/archives/extracts/newbing.html</a> There are some apparent errors in this document, too. A number of these Whitneys are given Connecticut births when they were almost certainly born in New York. Also there is a nine-year discrepancy in the birthdate of Sarah's sister Olive vis-à-vis her baptism on the above page. I'd be interested in hearing about your progress with Joshua and the DAR, as I'll be applying to the SAR with his brother William's coterminous service. Cheers, Ron Kyser On Friday, August 6, 2004, at 10:12 AM, TJ Mallon wrote: > I'm looking for information on Sarah Whitney, daughter of Joshua Whitney > (Thomas, William, William, Joshua, John) and Hannah Green. She was > born 8 > May 1775 (the information I have says she was born in Connecticut, > although > I'm not positive on that point since her father served in New York > during > the Revolutionary War - I do know the family moved to New York at some > point, but I'm not sure of the precise date) and died 17 December 1859 > in > Bainbridge, Chenango County, New York. She married William Guthrie 3 > December 1799. She appears on p.214 of Pierce's Whitney book with her > parents and would appear on p.386 between her brothers Joshua and Thomas > (her information isn't transribed on the Whitneygen website, of course, > nor > is there a scan of the page available). William and Sarah (Whitney) > Guthrie's daughter Olive married Allen Randall and that latter couple's > granddaughter, Catherine "Cassie" Randall, is my great-grandmother. If > anyone has a copy of Pierce's book and could do a lookup for me (or > tell me > where I can obtain a copy myself), I would appreciate it. I'm > preparing an > application for DAR based on Joshua Whitney's war service and Sarah is > the > weak link in my research. > > Thanks, > Tracy Mallon >
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