Mailing List:2007-01-03 01, Re: WHITNEY Y-DNA, by Gerald A. 'Gerry' Eberwein

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From: "Gerry Eberwein" <NacoGerry -at- hughes.net> Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] WHITNEY Y-DNA Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 03:48:25 -0700 In-Reply-To: <001501c72ef5$4d0b4d40$7d664e0c@dstelmach> Debbie, Using present day locations, the Finger Lakes region is generally referring to a area of New York State bounded by the Genesee River, the NY Thruway, I 81, Susquehanna, Chemung, Cohocton rivers and I 86. Although the canal route did create a huge draw for migration it was really mostly after the mid 1820's it grew in popularity. Much of what I am referring to was when Ontario County reached from the Preemption Line (Seneca Lake) to Lake Erie. It is true part of the Phelps Gorham lands became under the Holland banner because of a default action. But, in 1787 the lands from the preemption line (Ontario, Steuben, and Livingston counties) to 12 miles west of the Genesee River were not in the Holland Company property. The northern 1/3 (Monroe county) was given up by default and became the Morris Reserve. The Holland Purchase was another part of the state just to the west of the Genesee River. Holland finally did acquire the Morris Reserve as part of the conglomerate of banks and land owners that ultimately became the Holland Land Company. But, the southern 2/3 of the Phelps Gorham Purchase remained intact and the foundation for settlement of the western half of the finger lakes region. ("Historical and Statistical Gazetteer of New York State," by J H French; 1860; RP Smith, publisher; Syracuse NY; 1986 Reprint, Heart of the Lakes Publishing, Interlaken NY.) The Holland survey was finished on the large tracts in 1800. ("Land Transactions of Western New York 1804-1824," by Kevin E Livsey; 1991; Genealogical Publishing Co.; Baltimore MD) The Phelps Gorham survey had been done many years prior. As for the Quakers, they were also quite prevalent in the very early days of Cayuga County; about 1780 (See History of Cayuga County by Stafford Canning Cleveland) and their influence and lifestyle had a distinct influence upon all they came in contact with. And, from what I have learned, these were very positive interactions. Part of the Finger Lakes region (Ontario, Livingston, Yates, and Steuben) were in the Phelps & Gorham area and settlement began in the 1780's; the others (Cayuga, Schuyler, and Tompkins) were in the pre-emption lands and settlement had begun earlier than the Phelps Gorham area; much of Monroe was in the Morris Reserve and serious settlement there began well into the 1800's after sales were managed through the Holland Company. Rochesterville was incorporated in 1817. (See French, above) Many of the very early settlers came because of the land purchases. Many because of the bounty land they were given for Revolutionary War service. And, many because it was getting too crowded in New England. I based my earlier statement about the move to avoid non-Quaker enticements upon comments made by elderly Quaker and Mennonite parishioners I talked with when I was quite young. And, that is what they said caused their ancestors to establish in the locations they did. I do not dispute there were other reasons (economic, adventuresome etc.) for their migration. I was simply adding to the list of known common enticements for such acts. I am also aware that many groups and sects were subjected to outright persecution in those times and they oft fled to other areas where there would be some form of peace for them to worship and live as they wished. And, this continued for many decades after it seemingly ceased in the populous Eastern costal regions of the nation. (Citing the Mormon migration to Salt Lake valley of Utah and the US Civil War through and including the Klu Klux Klan activities thereafter, as examples.) All, of these were the causes of migrations of individuals and whole communities. By the way, I am from Rochester New York and I was raised there, and the Finger Lakes communities of Naples, Atlanta, Cohocton and Corning. I migrated away because of socio-economic reasons and set off on a career path that has taken me to 41 foreign nations and all the United States. I love history and family research. I wish you well in your search and if I can help you find any of your Whitney's let me know. (We do have a few New York Whitney's that have also transplanted here.) Gerry Tracing Orson Burgess and Elizabeth O'Bolger, their lineage and posterity of the Finger Lakes Region in New York. BURGESS, FELTON, CHAFFEE, CLARK, MACK, METCALF, SLAYTON, TENNEY, WATKINS, WHITNEY; plus HUGHES, MCMAHON, MORRIS, O'BOLGER, TROY and several more. Gerald Eberwein PO Box 605 Naco AZ 85620-0605 (520) 432-1231 NacoGerry -at- hughes.net -----Original Message----- From: whitney-bounces -at- rootsweb.com -at- rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Debbie Stelmach Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:09 PM To: whitney -at- rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] WHITNEY Y-DNA That area became known as the Holland Purchase and once the surveys were done, it sparked a major migration, my Quaker ancestors included. We ended up just south of Buffalo. The Quakers were the pioneers of that era and they were the ones who negotiated with the area indian tribes in the late 1700's. The completion of the Erie Canal also played a major role in migration and development of the region. Lumber and potash were major exports. One of the common migration routes that the Quakers used was Dartmouth, MA, Oblong, Easton, Scipio, Rochester, and then East Hamburg (now Orchard Park near Buffalo). Another large group came from Vermont from the area of Danby. Debbie (still seeking parents of Charles Whitney of Langford, Erie Co, NY, b Jul 1823 in MA, d. Feb 1902.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Eberwein" <NacoGerry -at- hughes.net> To: <whitney -at- rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] WHITNEY Y-DNA > In that era the huge Phelps - Gorham Purchase occurred and there were a > lot of > New England families that headed out to pioneer the wilderness. Although > we > can't imagine eastern New York State as a wilderness; west of the > immediate > Hudson River area was just that. Syracuse, Rochester and Buffalo were not > even > imagined at that time. Also, the government reserved tons of land for > revolutionary soldiers to claim. That, my friend is what persuaded many a > family, kids and all to go west. Many Quaker families moved because being > in > places populated with fewer religions lessened the supposed 'bad' > influences > that attended the 'other' churches. Thus, the area became a haven for them > and > an attraction for the others seeking to flee the massive population > crowding in > on them. > > Are you familiar with the Finger Lakes Mail List here on Rootsweb? You may > also > find some answers there. Many of the FLakes may have a line on the info > you are > seeking. (FLakes is a term we lovingly use to refer to us, the subscribers > on > the FingerLAKES list.) > > And you may have solved the mystery of the "other" Whitney clan I keep > running > into in my research. What area of the Finger Lakes were they? > > > Gerry > > Tracing Orson Burgess and Elizabeth O'Bolger, their lineage and posterity > of the > Finger Lakes Region in New York. > BURGESS, FELTON, CHAFFEE, CLARK, MACK, METCALF, SLAYTON, TENNEY, WATKINS, > WHITNEY; plus HUGHES, MCMAHON, MORRIS, O'BOLGER, TROY and several more. > Gerald Eberwein > PO Box 605 > Naco AZ 85620-0605 > (520) 432-1231 > NacoGerry -at- hughes.net > > > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces -at- rootsweb.com -at- rootsweb.com > On > Behalf Of Gerald E. Whitney > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 2:06 PM > To: Whitney-L > Subject: [WHITNEY] WHITNEY Y-DNA > > Hi WRG members and friends, I would like to thank Tim Doyle, Whitney > Keene,Robert Ward, and all that entered their information. > Leonard Albert Whitney, I thought I could help you and then you turned the > tables and helped me. Thank You. > I did not know my line at all, for the last 10 years, I was following > the wrong line because I didn't have anything more to go on. Here is my > new > line to follow. > My known line is myself Gerald E.(Jerry) Whitney12, Earl E.11, Herman > G.10, > Crosby9, George8, Crosby7 (my last documented) then info left by George > was > Reuben and Ruth(unk) from Maine. I'm now looking at Reuben6 (6 Nov 1762), > Jacob Sgt5, Jonas4, Eleazar3, Thomas2, John1 . If Reuben is in Maine, > where > at? How would a 18 year old boy get to the Finger Lakes, New York to > persuade a > 18 year old Quaker girl(Mary Carman) to marry him? He only lived six more > years(1828). > Anyone wanting to comment, pro or con, please do so. > Happy New Year, > Gerald E.(Jerry) Whitney > gwhitney -at- alltel.net > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request -at- rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request -at- rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITNEY-request -at- rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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